Marilyn On my files I have a likely candidate for your Lilian BUTLER. She's Lilian THOMPSON married to Herbert BUTLER (b1884). Herbert is son of Edwin BUTLER, son of Anne THOMPSON, dau of James THOMPSON, your 3G gfather. I don't know where I got this from though! Either Geoffro or you, probably! Unfortunately Lilian isn't linked to anyone so she's still a mystery. Doug Thompson