Hi Jewel I saw the family of James WHITWORTH in Charfield (1851) also. I am feeling quite strongly that once my mystery is solved, we may find that the James WHITWORTH family is going to fit in somehow with my WHITWORTHs. I'm so glad to hear that you've found someone in your tree because of the chatter about my tree. I suppose we shouldn't hold our breaths but may have a connection. Stay tuned. Cheers from Canada Karen Davies ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.