Hi Carole, Not sure if this is of any help.... but, I have three Mary Ann CHAPPELL in my tree so I throw them into the equation in case they help. They are: Mary Ann b. 1847 in Littleton Drew the daur of David CHAPPELL and Grace PRITCHARD. I have no idea what happened to her after 1851. Mary Ann b. 1847 in Lyneham, my g g grandma and the daur of Job CHAPPELL and Amy GRIFFIN - not a likely starter Mary Ann b. 1842 the daur of Eli CHAPPELL and Anne Lawrence HISCOX. She m. Wm Albert Sainsbury in 1866 - again not a likely starter I think we can rule out the last two but could the daur. of David CHAPPELL and Grace PRITCHARD be the one you are looking for? If so, I have quite a bit more information. Cheers Sue

Can anyone help with details of Maria Pullin born c 1823 please? I think she may be the sister of Elizabeth. In 1841 she was living in Gloucester. Thank you Andy

I am trying to gain further information on a Williiam PINCOTT,My Great,Great grandfather. Born c.1822-1824 Little Sodbury,Married Mary Turner 24/3/1840 at Parish Church Chipping Sodbury.Father listed as probably Thomas Symonds, mother of William PINCOTT not on marriage,I am unable to trace Birth Certificate. Can anyone assist? Thanks Mike ___________________________________________________________ Book yourself something to look forward to in 2005. Cheap flights - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/flights/ Bargain holidays - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/holidays/

Hi Carol No I don't know of a Henry Hulbert - but I just have to know, now you've mentioned the goat :-)) For everyone else: As you know, (and if you don't, you will soon) I have a mystery which links Hawkesbury to Newport Monmouthshire and Carole has been very helpful over the years in trying to solve it. I have made more progress - not necessarily in the right direction, so I think I will restate the story. You will have to bear with me as you will see my family gives new meaning to the expression "extended family"!!! My grandad was born in 1865 in Hawkesbury and married in Cheltenham in 1921 - and was 65 when my Dad was born. We therefore started doing our Family History to fill in the gaps and understand the various passing relatives that my Dad met, but never had a clear vision of where they fitted in to the family. Grandad left my Dad various notebooks (his accounts from Kingscote are on CD at Archive CD Books) and in one of these these are addresses including a Mr E Hulbert at St Woollos Monmouthshire. (This is a suburb of Newport now) For a long time I believed this was my grandad's cousin Edwin John HULBERT born 1849 (yes- his mother Grace was 15 years older that grandad's father James). I now think he (Mr E ) was another member of my family, but I have never found out who. This is because I'm now fairly convinced that Edwin went first to Tewkesbury (where he married) and then to a farm at Awre near Blakeney in the Forest of Dean - it took a long time to track him down because of the quaint transcripts of Edwin's accented rendition of Hawkesbury as well as his propensity to be called or to call himself John and Edward. This fits with a report that my grandad's only comment when my cousin John was named was "I had once an uncle called John" (this is still the only Hulbert named John that I have found). This is all very enigmatic and to be honest still drives me crazy from time to time. If however anyone on the list comes across anything remotely related or helpful, I'd appreciate the info... one day it might all fit together!!!! Thank you for listening :-)) Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "ANTHONY SHARP" <sharpafc@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 6:58 AM Subject: [HWK] Henry HULBERT > For Marilyn especially! > > Do you know of a Henry HULBERT who was in Newport, MON in 1891? > > If so, do you know about his goat?? Or even want too…. > > Cheers > Carole > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 11/06/2005 > > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > Look out for Get Togethers at The Beaufort: Next one is Sat 7th May and > then Sun 16th July. Contact Robert via his web site to book lunch. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Hi All, I've been reviewing some of my TOGHILL/CHAPPELL/WATTS connections and found yet another little puzzle! Two entries from the PRs - note the dates and locations and spelling of CHAPPLE/CHAPPELL. Parish Register - Hawkesbury, No 406 Feb 28 1875, Hugh Watts TOGHILL 32 ?Haulier/Hawker, of Hillesly, son of Daniel WATTS Farmer & Mary Ann CHAPPLE age 21 spin dau of George CHAPPLE Labourer Witnesses Charles TOGHILL & Mary Ann CHAPPELL. Parish Register - Oldbury on the Hill, No 437 Mar 11 1875, Alfred Amos son of Mary Ann CHAPPELL, Starveall, Hawkesbury. I have been showing Alfred Amos CHAPPELL (later known as TOGHILL) as the son of Hugh Watts TOGHILL & Mary Ann CHAPPLE but, given the above entries, wondered whether Alfred Amos CHAPPELL could be the son of the witness to the marriage instead. However, I can't identify this Mary Ann CHAPPELL (the witness) at present. I've always had a problem with Hugh & Mary Ann's children because, according to the censuses, there seems to be a son Daniel born about the sme time (1875), and, given that Hugh's father was Daniel WATTS, seems most likely to their child. When I put this to Kay he came back with the following analysis, and I would be grateful for any views please. Cheers Carole "I am going to shock you by saying that I believe Alfred Amos CHAPPELL and Daniel TOGHILL are one and the same person. Bob LAWRENCE in his database has them both as children of Hugh Watts TOGHILL and Mary Ann CHAPPELL. If we look at the various Census details: 1881 Alfred TOGHILL aged 6 born Hawkesbury is recorded as Grandson of George CHAPPELL (Farm Labourer) and his wife Jane at Beech Grove, Starveall, Hawkesbury. Also present : Mary A TOGHILL daughter, Widow, Rosa (Rose) A TOGHILL Granddaughter, and sons George CHAPPELL aged 18 born Weston and Frederick CHAPPELL aged 9 born Hawkesbury. 1891 Daniel TOGHILL aged 16 born Hawkesbury Grandson with grandparents George and Jane CHAPPELL of Beech Grove Cottages Hawkesbury 1901 (Wales) Daniel TOGHILL (unfortunately indexed as TOYHILL) aged 26 Single born Hawkesbury at residence of his uncle, Frederick Chappell, in Abertilley Monmouthshire. (Also present was Walter TOGHILL born 1885 Sodbury). If you look at the 1881 and 1891 Census we have firstly Alfred (1881) and then Daniel (1891) with grandparents George and Jane CHAPPELL at the same address in both Census. Alfred is 6 in 1881, Daniel 16 in 1891, and then in 1901 he is 26 with Frederick who was a son of George and Jane. It is far too much of a coincidence to have two TOGHILL grandchildren born in the same year, ( there is no variation as to year of birth over the 20 years between the 1881 Cenus and the 1901 Census) particularly when there is no indication of any other daughter of George and Jane marrying a TOGHILL. I am confident enough to delete Daniel TOGHILL from my records. There is no birth in the GRO Indexes on 1837online for a Daniel TOGHILL in the years 1874-1876 (a fact also recorded by Bob Lawrence in his database). All we know of Alfred Amos CHAPPELL (who subsequently is known as TOGHILL) is that he was born in the March Q 1875 Chipping Sodbury 6a 217 and that he was baptised as a CHAPPELL on11/3/1875. What we do not know is when he was actually born. I suspect that it would have been before 28/2/1875 when his mother married Hugh Watts TOGHILL. (Interestingly 28/2/1875 was a Sunday and 11/3 a Thursday.) I would also suspect that the Parish Priest may have objected to baptising the child as TOGHILL knowing that the birth of the child had been registered as CHAPPELL. I will obtain the birth certificate. This of course leaves still the question, who was Mary Ann CHAPPELL the witness to the marriage? It would not surprise me that this is an error and that Mary Ann’s mother, Jane, was the witness." PS I have to add that Mary ANN CHAPPELL signed her name in the PRs and it is definitely Ann, not Jane. Carole -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 11/06/2005

For Marilyn especially! Do you know of a Henry HULBERT who was in Newport, MON in 1891? If so, do you know about his goat?? Or even want too…. Cheers Carole -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 11/06/2005

Thanks Sian Maybe some of the other CHAPPELL researchers will have an interest. Cheers Carole -----Original Message----- From: Sian Evans [mailto:evans6441@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: 09 June 2005 09:05 To: ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HWK] MORGENSTERN, TOGHILL and more Hi Carole, I have a Harriet Jane Capple born abt 1839 Cutcombe, Someset she married Evan Jones June 1860 Neath, South Wales. Any help? Sian -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.6 - Release Date: 08/06/2005

Hi Doug, I Have a Tabitha Jane Palmer from Monmouth, South Wales father Robert. Tabitha married Thomas Phillips in 1871, Wesbury on severn, Gloucester. Do you have a Robert or Tabitha please? Thanks Sian Noljo54@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 10/06/2005 00:04:01 GMT Standard Time, doug.thompson@virgin.net writes: After looking at the 1871 and 1891 images, I am fairly certain that Sophia is from Cinderford (both 71 and 91 are attempts) and William is from Grafton, near Tewkesbury. Thanks Doug, now what do u make of this?????????? Hiya. I think William Thompson must have been the second husband of Sophia. 1861 lodging at Wheatley's Row Ilkeston head of household Frederick Matthews of Ilkeston RG10 2437 58 6 James Palmer lodger mar 31 furnace man Glouc. Grafton Sophia Palmer wife 30 Gloucs. Synderfort? James Palmer son 8 scholar Staffs. Walsall Emma Palmer dau 6 months Derbyshire Clay Cross Someone on Rootschat found that for me! No wonder I couldnt find a James Thompson birth! It all seems to fit. I am soo excited. ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== Look out for Get Togethers at The Beaufort: Next one is Sat 7th May and then Sun 16th July. Contact Robert via his web site to book lunch. ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx --------------------------------- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos

Joan After looking at the 1871 and 1891 images, I am fairly certain that Sophia is from Cinderford (both 71 and 91 are attempts) and William is from Grafton, near Tewkesbury. Doug Thompson

Just in case there is a connection - this is from the 1851 census - 1974 1851 CENSUS HO107/1974 FF.0419 - 0436 ED.6E TEWKESBURY 3 Piece: 1974 Folio: 0426 Schedule: 048 Address: Church St THOMPSON William HD M 29 Gardener YKS Newbold[?] (c1822) THOMPSON Ellen WI M 23 - MDX East Acton (c1828) THOMPSON William SO - 3 - GLS Tewkesbury (c1848) THOMPSON Ann DA - 1 - GLS Tewkesbury (c1850) Cheers Carole -----Original Message----- From: Noljo54@aol.com [mailto:Noljo54@aol.com] Sent: 09 June 2005 18:22 To: ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HWK] Thompson In a message dated 09/06/2005 17:31:38 GMT Standard Time, doug.thompson@virgin.net writes: I'm afraid I agree with Marilyn. Tewkesbury sounds more likely. I have got 20 William Thompsons in my tree now, all born in Hawkesbury but there isn't one to match with yours. There was one born 1820, but we know all about him and he doesn't go to Staffs. The other nearest was born 1829, which is a bit far out. We know nothing of this one except his birth. I suspect he died very young. This one goes all over the place LOL Children that I know of were: James b Staffs c 1851 (my g grandfather), Emma, b Derbyshire c 1861, Alice, b Staffs c 1865, Harry, b Staffs c 1872, Sophia, b Staffs c 1873 then by 1881 he was in Cumberland. Haven't found them in 1861 so could be other children, seems a long gap between James & Emma. They have been a nightmare since day one and can't seem to give same place of birth twice. I have now touched 9 counties from my grandfather to my gg grandfather and that is just the direct line, no siblings. I have 3 diff places (and 2 diff ages) for James, all within a few miles of each other but all in diff reg districts so what chance do I have of finding his birth? Joan (nee Thompson) ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== Look out for Get Togethers at The Beaufort: Next one is Sat 7th May and then Sun 16th July. Contact Robert via his web site to book lunch. ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=1459 9&targetid=5429 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.6 - Release Date: 08/06/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.6 - Release Date: 08/06/2005

In a message dated 10/06/2005 00:04:01 GMT Standard Time, doug.thompson@virgin.net writes: After looking at the 1871 and 1891 images, I am fairly certain that Sophia is from Cinderford (both 71 and 91 are attempts) and William is from Grafton, near Tewkesbury. Thanks Doug, now what do u make of this?????????? Hiya. I think William Thompson must have been the second husband of Sophia. 1861 lodging at Wheatley's Row Ilkeston head of household Frederick Matthews of Ilkeston RG10 2437 58 6 James Palmer lodger mar 31 furnace man Glouc. Grafton Sophia Palmer wife 30 Gloucs. Synderfort? James Palmer son 8 scholar Staffs. Walsall Emma Palmer dau 6 months Derbyshire Clay Cross Someone on Rootschat found that for me! No wonder I couldnt find a James Thompson birth! It all seems to fit. I am soo excited.

Hello Joan I'm afraid I agree with Marilyn. Tewkesbury sounds more likely. I have got 20 William Thompsons in my tree now, all born in Hawkesbury but there isn't one to match with yours. There was one born 1820, but we know all about him and he doesn't go to Staffs. The other nearest was born 1829, which is a bit far out. We know nothing of this one except his birth. I suspect he died very young. Doug Thompson

In a message dated 09/06/2005 20:36:06 GMT Standard Time, sharpafc@btinternet.com writes: Just in case there is a connection - this is from the 1851 census - 1974 1851 CENSUS HO107/1974 FF.0419 - 0436 ED.6E TEWKESBURY 3 Thanks a lot Carole, I will keep that on file just in case. Joan

In a message dated 09/06/2005 17:31:38 GMT Standard Time, doug.thompson@virgin.net writes: I'm afraid I agree with Marilyn. Tewkesbury sounds more likely. I have got 20 William Thompsons in my tree now, all born in Hawkesbury but there isn't one to match with yours. There was one born 1820, but we know all about him and he doesn't go to Staffs. The other nearest was born 1829, which is a bit far out. We know nothing of this one except his birth. I suspect he died very young. This one goes all over the place LOL Children that I know of were: James b Staffs c 1851 (my g grandfather), Emma, b Derbyshire c 1861, Alice, b Staffs c 1865, Harry, b Staffs c 1872, Sophia, b Staffs c 1873 then by 1881 he was in Cumberland. Haven't found them in 1861 so could be other children, seems a long gap between James & Emma. They have been a nightmare since day one and can't seem to give same place of birth twice. I have now touched 9 counties from my grandfather to my gg grandfather and that is just the direct line, no siblings. I have 3 diff places (and 2 diff ages) for James, all within a few miles of each other but all in diff reg districts so what chance do I have of finding his birth? Joan (nee Thompson)

I have Hawkesbury Thompsons, but I'm not the fount of all knowledge that Doug is - no doubt he will be in touch on this, especially if he has a suitable candidate (we do have a lot of William THOMPSONs!!!) There is one thing though that you should bear in mind - using a local accent Chucksberry is a fairly good literal transcription of how people like me - born in North Glos say "Tewkesbury" !!!!!!!!! Although I might spell it Chooksbury ... and then that looks like something close to Hukesbury before you know it!! ----- Original Message ----- From: <Noljo54@aol.com> To: <ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 12:20 AM Subject: [HWK] Thompson > Hello all > I am new to the list. After searching for over a year for my > g > grandfathers family (g grandparents werent married!) I believe I have now > found them, by pure fluke! He was born in Staffs and I have discovered > his > parents were born in Glo. I found the following for 1881: > _William THOMPSON_ > (http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1881BR_5428187_0&frompage=5) > Head M Male 57 > Hukesbury, Gloucester, England Furnace Keeper Ironworks _Sophia > THOMPSON_ > (http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE > =1881BR_5428187_1&frompage=5) Wife M Female 40 Hukesbury, > Gloucester, > England > I am assuming this should be Hawkesbury tho I did at first think it might > be > Tewkesbury. In 1891 it looks like Chucksberry. Someone on Staffs list > kindly > found them in Staffs in 1871 and places look like Grafan for William and > Lindfiarl for Sophia??? Ages in 1871 are 47 and 44 which I believe are > correct > as they tally with 1891. Ring any bells with anyone? I would really > appreciate > any help to move on with this family. Any good Glo sites??? > > Regards > Joan > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > Look out for Get Togethers at The Beaufort: Next one is Sat 7th May and > then Sun 16th July. Contact Robert via his web site to book lunch. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Hi Carole, I have a Harriet Jane Capple born abt 1839 Cutcombe, Someset she married Evan Jones June 1860 Neath, South Wales. Any help? Sian ANTHONY SHARP <sharpafc@btinternet.com> wrote: Hi Joan I’m glad it was worth the wait! The only other sibling that I know of is Ada born abt 1884. If you can give me some dates and names I’ll have a look but I don’t remember any more.. I’d be grateful for some info on your family because I also have Walter TOGHILL on my tree. Did you spot his birth certificate in my folder? Birth Certificate, No 206 11 Dec 1893 Iron Acton sub dist of Chipping Sodbury, 11th Dec 1883 Union Workhouse, Yate RSD. Walter No father, mother Mary Toghill of Hawkesbury Upton Registered by Cecilia M CLAPP, Matron, Union Workhouse, Yate, (present at birth). Registered 29 Dec 1883. John NICHOLS Junr. Registrar. Shall I scan it to you? As I’m sure you know, Walter TOGHILL’s mother was a widow, originally Mary Ann CHAPPLE (or CHAPPELL), the daughter of George CHAPPELL & Jane TILLING. Mary Ann married Hugh WATTS TOGHILL in 1875 but he died the following year.leaving Mary Ann with 2 possibly 3 children. She went on to have at least 2 more children by an unknown father – hence the workhouse birth. Cheers Carole -----Original Message----- From: Maurice Catt [mailto:maurice@cita.fsnet.co.uk] Sent: 08 June 2005 23:36 To: ANTHONY SHARP Subject: Re: MORGENSTERN Hi Carole, Yes, Emma was the daughter of John CHAPPELL & Sarah CORNOCK. This is the one that I couldn't find, I had her birth as in London,[from the IGI], so this must be her Baptism. Were any more of her Siblings there? or was she the only one ?? Thanking you so much, Cheers, Joan -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.5 - Release Date: 07/06/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.5 - Release Date: 07/06/2005 ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== Visit Robert Millard's local and family history web pages at http://www.hawkesburyhistory.co.uk. ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx --------------------------------- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos

Hi Joan I’m glad it was worth the wait! The only other sibling that I know of is Ada born abt 1884. If you can give me some dates and names I’ll have a look but I don’t remember any more.. I’d be grateful for some info on your family because I also have Walter TOGHILL on my tree. Did you spot his birth certificate in my folder? Birth Certificate, No 206 11 Dec 1893 Iron Acton sub dist of Chipping Sodbury, 11th Dec 1883 Union Workhouse, Yate RSD. Walter No father, mother Mary Toghill of Hawkesbury Upton Registered by Cecilia M CLAPP, Matron, Union Workhouse, Yate, (present at birth). Registered 29 Dec 1883. John NICHOLS Junr. Registrar. Shall I scan it to you? As I’m sure you know, Walter TOGHILL’s mother was a widow, originally Mary Ann CHAPPLE (or CHAPPELL), the daughter of George CHAPPELL & Jane TILLING. Mary Ann married Hugh WATTS TOGHILL in 1875 but he died the following year.leaving Mary Ann with 2 possibly 3 children. She went on to have at least 2 more children by an unknown father – hence the workhouse birth. Cheers Carole -----Original Message----- From: Maurice Catt [mailto:maurice@cita.fsnet.co.uk] Sent: 08 June 2005 23:36 To: ANTHONY SHARP Subject: Re: MORGENSTERN Hi Carole, Yes, Emma was the daughter of John CHAPPELL & Sarah CORNOCK. This is the one that I couldn't find, I had her birth as in London,[from the IGI], so this must be her Baptism. Were any more of her Siblings there? or was she the only one ?? Thanking you so much, Cheers, Joan -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.5 - Release Date: 07/06/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.5 - Release Date: 07/06/2005

Hi Joan, At the last get together I mentioned that I had seen a MORGENSTERN in the parish registers but couldn’t remember which, where or who! Finally, I’ve found it! Parish Register - Oldbury on the Hill, No 365 May 27 1866, Emma dau of John & Emma MORGENSTERN, Bromley, MDX. Baker. Perhaps you could confirm that Emma (the mother) was Emma CHAPPELL, daughter of John CHAPPELL & Sarah CURNOCK, Cheers Carole -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.5 - Release Date: 07/06/2005

Hello all I am new to the list. After searching for over a year for my g grandfathers family (g grandparents werent married!) I believe I have now found them, by pure fluke! He was born in Staffs and I have discovered his parents were born in Glo. I found the following for 1881: _William THOMPSON_ (http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE=1881BR_5428187_0&frompage=5) Head M Male 57 Hukesbury, Gloucester, England Furnace Keeper Ironworks _Sophia THOMPSON_ (http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/individual_record.asp?INDI_CODE =1881BR_5428187_1&frompage=5) Wife M Female 40 Hukesbury, Gloucester, England I am assuming this should be Hawkesbury tho I did at first think it might be Tewkesbury. In 1891 it looks like Chucksberry. Someone on Staffs list kindly found them in Staffs in 1871 and places look like Grafan for William and Lindfiarl for Sophia??? Ages in 1871 are 47 and 44 which I believe are correct as they tally with 1891. Ring any bells with anyone? I would really appreciate any help to move on with this family. Any good Glo sites??? Regards Joan

Hello everyone, Does anyone know anything about a Mary Toghill married to a George Dawe, he was born about 1858 in the St. Phillips area of Bristol, I have been told Mary died in childbirth leaving at least 3 daughters who were sent to the workhouse,that we know of today as St. Martins Hospital, Odd Down, Bath, George married another Mary ? from Whitley Melksham, my informant tells me that Mary Toghill was sister to my G/father William Henry born Cold Ashton 1871, would I be right thinking she was Mary Ann daughter of George and Letitica? Regards, Louise.