Hi Carole, Another possibility might be Ann WATTS b abt 1845 Great Badminton d/o John WATTS (of Tormarton) and Mary Ann WEBB. By 1861 Mary Ann (WEBB) WATTS had remarried and was living at the Portcullis Inn (Great Badminton). Ann WATTS, their daughter, was living with parents John and Mary Ann in Great Badminton in 1851 and with her mother Mary Ann DAVIES in 1861. I don't know where she was in 1871 however - so she may have married (which would be fitting with an 1867 marriage). I have no other details of this Ann but she might be worth considering ... ? Ronda ----- Original Message ----- From: "ANTHONY SHARP" <sharpafc@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 2:47 PM Subject: [HWK] MILSOM, BOULTON & WATTS & TUCK & LEWIS! > Hi All > If anyone has a connection to these families, please concentrate on the > following! I apologise for all the detail but I have seen this family on > several websites, none of which mention the fact that William MILSOM > married twice! > . > William MILSOM was born abt 1820 at Sopworth WIL and can be found in > Hawkesbury on the 1851 census. lodging with William DAVIS and family. > On Oct 27 1855, at St Mary’s Hawkesbury, William MILSOM 36 Farmer of > Luckington, son of George MILSOM Labourer married Mary Ann BOULTON 23 > Upton, dau of William BOULTON Labourer. > > William & Mary Ann MILSOM had at least 5 children, including Isaac > Septimus, Lucy, Emily, Reuben & George between 1855 and 1864 at > Luckington, WIL. . > > Mary Ann MILSOM died Dec Qtr 1864 and William BOULTON remarried in Mar > Qtr 1867 at Luckington to Ann WATTS, I don’t have the details but I am > 99% certain that she is the daughter of Maurice WATTS & his wife Ann > (TUCK). > > William & Ann had at least 2 children, Amy Annie & Edith, again, both > born at Luckington. > > In 1884, Emily MILSOM, daughter of William & his first wife Mary Ann, > married John Maurice WATTS, the illegitimate son of Ann WATTS, who had > become the 2nd wife of William MILSOM!! > > In Oct 1893, Amy Annie MILSOM married John WATTS, son of William WATTS & > Emma LEWIS of Hawkesbury Upton. William WATTS was also the son of > Maurice WATTS & his wife Ann (TUCK) and therefore a brother of Ann WATTS > and uncle of Amy Annie MILSOM! > > If anyone wants the associated census details, provided courtesy of Kay, > please ask. > > Cheers > Carole > > .. > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.12/46 - Release Date: > 11/07/2005 > > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > Please remember when you post messages that SURNAMES should be in CAPITALS. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.13/47 - Release Date: 7/12/2005 > >

Codrington is just off the M4 J18 go north a few yards on A46 go west abt 2m and there you have it right next door to Dodington House. Owned by Codrington family pub there of that name and church used to be in grounds of Dodington, I think! It is shown on maps. Brian Morgan ANTHONY SHARP <sharpafc@btinternet.com> wrote: Hi Lisa I'm sure the locals can tell you more about Wapley & Codrington but a good starting place is GENUKI - http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/GLS/Wapley/ Cheers Carole -----Original Message----- From: Lisa Britton [mailto:kb007d6364@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: 03 July 2005 20:00 To: ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HWK] OT but desperate! Hi everyone, hope you're all well I'm going off on a wild goose chase here but can't think of any better people to ask than my fellow listers, experts one and all - hope you all don't mind! First - where is Codrington? Second - is there a church there and is it likely to have any searchable records? Thanks and regards Lisa ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== Look out for Get Togethers at The Beaufort: Next one is Sat 7th May and then Sun 16th July. Contact Robert via his web site to book lunch. ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/37 - Release Date: 01/07/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/37 - Release Date: 01/07/2005 ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== Please remember when you post messages that SURNAMES should be in CAPITALS. ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

Hi Lisa I'm sure the locals can tell you more about Wapley & Codrington but a good starting place is GENUKI - http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/GLS/Wapley/ Cheers Carole -----Original Message----- From: Lisa Britton [mailto:kb007d6364@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: 03 July 2005 20:00 To: ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HWK] OT but desperate! Hi everyone, hope you're all well I'm going off on a wild goose chase here but can't think of any better people to ask than my fellow listers, experts one and all - hope you all don't mind! First - where is Codrington? Second - is there a church there and is it likely to have any searchable records? Thanks and regards Lisa ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== Look out for Get Togethers at The Beaufort: Next one is Sat 7th May and then Sun 16th July. Contact Robert via his web site to book lunch. ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/37 - Release Date: 01/07/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/37 - Release Date: 01/07/2005

Hi everyone, hope you're all well I'm going off on a wild goose chase here but can't think of any better people to ask than my fellow listers, experts one and all - hope you all don't mind! First - where is Codrington? Second - is there a church there and is it likely to have any searchable records? Thanks and regards Lisa

Thank you Robert for your essay on this topic! Fascinating and all news to me. Les's question sent me scurrying to my reference books but I found very little on the subject. I did find this relating to marriages 1000 - 1500: "The handing over of the dowry now took place in the church porch, and so, for king and commoner alike, did the exchange of marriage vows. Some said this was done to keep commercialism out of the body of the church, while others thought a more likely cause was the tricky business of the priests granting permission for man and wife to sleep together. The vows exchanged, everyone moved inside the building for the nuptial mass." The next paragraph of the book deals with "forbidden degrees of consanginuity" for couples about to marry - an issue which has perplexed me for ages, given the number of close relatives that marry in my family! Given the following rules, it is a wonder that there was anyone, in a close knit community like Hawkesbury for example, who could be married. "If it were discovered, never mind how long after the event, that these rules had been broken, the marriage was automatically null and any children declared illegitimate. To complicate matters further, as matrimony was said to make husband and wife one flesh, so her relatives became his and vice versa; which meant that a widow or widower could not marry the first, second or third cousin of the deceased partner. To compound the complications, god parents were looked on as blood relations." Now to read the next chapters! Cheers Carole -----Original Message----- From: Robert Millard [mailto:robert@hawkesburyhistory.co.uk] Sent: 23 June 2005 17:50 To: ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HWK] Church marriages Hi Les Yes this is correct at least in England in the middle to late medieval times, marriages were often performed at the church door, after which the married couple would then proceed inside to hear Mass. But the sacrament was not completed until the marriage was consummated (non-consummation was always grounds for a dissolution). Various restrictions were placed on the collection of the "marital debt" which, contrary to popular belief, the wife had just as much right to demand as the husband. Just a few restrictions included :- no sex in churches or cemeteries, nor on major feast days, nor during pregnancy, nor on top of holy relics, nor with only lust in one's heart! well that cuts it down a bit. In secular law, clandestine marriages were frowned upon because of the difficulties they could bring into determining inheritance. A marriage which was not public or at least witnessed by someone other than the couple could lead to claims on property by other relatives upon the couple's death. It was common for a dowry to be paid the brides share of her father's property, which was given over to her husband, but was sometimes left in her personal control. Also there could be no dower where the groom named part of his property, usually one-third, as the wife's share should she survive him, because a proper dower could only be constituted "at the church door", in other words, in front of witnesses. This public marriage was both to insure that a widow would be provided for and to make sure that heirs were not deprived of their rightful inheritance, the dower property was only for use during the widow's lifetime, after which it passed to the heirs, In later times Will's became common men began leaving their widows possessions in their own right, which unlike dower property, these women could sell or give away as they saw fit. A further reason for the marriage taking place at the door is the financial side of it, probably monetary matters were best taking place outside, this the practice for payment of rents and debts we often see Hawkesbury folk mention in Wills that money was due to paid in the church porch usually on feast days. regards Robert Visit my web pages at http://www.hawkesburyhistory.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "L & L.Shephard" <lodnles@ozzienet.net> To: <ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 9:13 AM Subject: [HWK] Church marriages > Have remained on your list, even though I've contributed very little. > However, I am hoping that someone can answer the following query which I > have received from our own Family History Society in Mandurah, Western > Australia.... > > Member Jean Brand write "I have an idea that at some period in British > history marriages took place at the church door and not in the church - > can you tell me if this is correct - and if so did it apply to all or only > the "common people"? > > I have no knowledge of this - maybe one of your readers can point me in > the right direction. 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Hi Les Yes this is correct at least in England in the middle to late medieval times, marriages were often performed at the church door, after which the married couple would then proceed inside to hear Mass. But the sacrament was not completed until the marriage was consummated (non-consummation was always grounds for a dissolution). Various restrictions were placed on the collection of the "marital debt" which, contrary to popular belief, the wife had just as much right to demand as the husband. Just a few restrictions included :- no sex in churches or cemeteries, nor on major feast days, nor during pregnancy, nor on top of holy relics, nor with only lust in one's heart! well that cuts it down a bit. In secular law, clandestine marriages were frowned upon because of the difficulties they could bring into determining inheritance. A marriage which was not public or at least witnessed by someone other than the couple could lead to claims on property by other relatives upon the couple's death. It was common for a dowry to be paid the brides share of her father's property, which was given over to her husband, but was sometimes left in her personal control. Also there could be no dower where the groom named part of his property, usually one-third, as the wife's share should she survive him, because a proper dower could only be constituted "at the church door", in other words, in front of witnesses. This public marriage was both to insure that a widow would be provided for and to make sure that heirs were not deprived of their rightful inheritance, the dower property was only for use during the widow's lifetime, after which it passed to the heirs, In later times Will's became common men began leaving their widows possessions in their own right, which unlike dower property, these women could sell or give away as they saw fit. A further reason for the marriage taking place at the door is the financial side of it, probably monetary matters were best taking place outside, this the practice for payment of rents and debts we often see Hawkesbury folk mention in Wills that money was due to paid in the church porch usually on feast days. regards Robert Visit my web pages at http://www.hawkesburyhistory.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "L & L.Shephard" <lodnles@ozzienet.net> To: <ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 9:13 AM Subject: [HWK] Church marriages > Have remained on your list, even though I've contributed very little. > However, I am hoping that someone can answer the following query which I > have received from our own Family History Society in Mandurah, Western > Australia.... > > Member Jean Brand write "I have an idea that at some period in British > history marriages took place at the church door and not in the church - > can you tell me if this is correct - and if so did it apply to all or only > the "common people"? > > I have no knowledge of this - maybe one of your readers can point me in > the right direction. Sincere thanks.... > > Les Shephard > Membership Secretary > Mandurah Family History Society > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > Visit Robert Millard's local and family history web pages at > http://www.hawkesburyhistory.co.uk. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Have remained on your list, even though I've contributed very little. However, I am hoping that someone can answer the following query which I have received from our own Family History Society in Mandurah, Western Australia.... Member Jean Brand write "I have an idea that at some period in British history marriages took place at the church door and not in the church - can you tell me if this is correct - and if so did it apply to all or only the "common people"? I have no knowledge of this - maybe one of your readers can point me in the right direction. Sincere thanks.... Les Shephard Membership Secretary Mandurah Family History Society

Many thanks to Anthony Sharp for the Scribes Alcove site. I found many entries of importance to me, and I am very grateful. Joan -----Original Message----- From: ANTHONY SHARP [mailto:sharpafc@btinternet.com] Sent: 23 June 2005 5:23 AM To: ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HWK] Elizabeth Hunt Hi Andy Found this on Scribes Alcove. http://www.scribes-alcove.co.uk/index.html MARRIAGE: 5 Dec 1780 at Berkeley GROOM BRIDE NAME: John Wallington Elizabeth Hunt AGE: ABODE: Berkeley Berkeley WITNESSES: Jno Hunt, Saml Tainton Also this one: MARRIAGE: 24 Oct 1848 at Berkeley GROOM BRIDE NAME: Richard Wallington Mary Ann Tratman AGE: Full Age Full Age STATUS: Bachelor Spinster OCCUPATION: Wine merchant ABODE: Wottonunderedge Berkeley FATHER: William Hunt Wallington Timothy Tratman FATHER'S OCCUPATION: Wine merchant Draper WITNESSES: Timothy Tratman, Elizabeth Knight Tratman, Sophia Tratman Quite a few other WALLINGTON marriages. I recommend Scribes Alcove http://www.scribes-alcove.co.uk/index.html to anyone with family in the Berkeley area - well worth a browse. Cheers Carole -----Original Message----- From: Andy Wallington [mailto:awallington@btinternet.com] Sent: 22 June 2005 17:04 To: ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HWK] Elizabeth Hunt Does anyone have information on Hunts of Berkeley or Wotton ? I am interested in Elizabeth Hunt who married John Wallington 5 Dec 1780 in Wotton but the licence stated their abodes as Berkeley. A witness was John Hunt. Thanks Andy ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== Visit Robert Millard's local and family history web pages at http://www.hawkesburyhistory.co.uk. ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.10/25 - Release Date: 21/06/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.10/25 - Release Date: 21/06/2005 ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== Visit Robert Millard's local and family history web pages at http://www.hawkesburyhistory.co.uk. ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

I believe Charles Chappell was bap 28 Mar 1779 at Stone, the son of William Chappell & Sarah Hill. He was the second cousin of my ancestor Charles Chappell who was also baptised in 1779 at Cromhall. My Charles married Hester Boxwell in Oldbury in 1821 and had an only daughter I would be interested to know if anyone has found out if the Charles at Trafalgar was married & if he had a family. Regards Kerrie > Hi Marilyn et al > Charles Chappell aged 26 born in Thornbury, Gloucestershire, England. > Ship: HMS Victory > Rank/Rating: Private, Marine > > Service details > Comments: From: Chatham HQs > HMS Victory > Ship's pay book number: (SB 24) > 14 April 1803 to 15 January 1806 (Was at Trafalgar) > Comments: Discharged 15 Jan 1806 HMS Victory paid off to Chatham Headquarters. > > we can trace Charles back to Oldbury on the Hill he was a Royal Marine and was wounded on HMS Victory same day Nelson recieved his fatal wound, but while Nelson ended up in a large vat of French brandy, Charles was transfered to Chatham Naval Hospital where his wound (a leg I think) was tended, later discharged from the Navy his transport was provided to Thornbury where he survived on his Navy pension and no doubt got a few free pints over a war story in the pub. > was there a WITCHELL conection to Charles? > regards > Robert

Hi Andy Found this on Scribes Alcove. http://www.scribes-alcove.co.uk/index.html MARRIAGE: 5 Dec 1780 at Berkeley GROOM BRIDE NAME: John Wallington Elizabeth Hunt AGE: ABODE: Berkeley Berkeley WITNESSES: Jno Hunt, Saml Tainton Also this one: MARRIAGE: 24 Oct 1848 at Berkeley GROOM BRIDE NAME: Richard Wallington Mary Ann Tratman AGE: Full Age Full Age STATUS: Bachelor Spinster OCCUPATION: Wine merchant ABODE: Wottonunderedge Berkeley FATHER: William Hunt Wallington Timothy Tratman FATHER'S OCCUPATION: Wine merchant Draper WITNESSES: Timothy Tratman, Elizabeth Knight Tratman, Sophia Tratman Quite a few other WALLINGTON marriages. I recommend Scribes Alcove http://www.scribes-alcove.co.uk/index.html to anyone with family in the Berkeley area - well worth a browse. Cheers Carole -----Original Message----- From: Andy Wallington [mailto:awallington@btinternet.com] Sent: 22 June 2005 17:04 To: ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HWK] Elizabeth Hunt Does anyone have information on Hunts of Berkeley or Wotton ? I am interested in Elizabeth Hunt who married John Wallington 5 Dec 1780 in Wotton but the licence stated their abodes as Berkeley. A witness was John Hunt. Thanks Andy ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== Visit Robert Millard's local and family history web pages at http://www.hawkesburyhistory.co.uk. ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.10/25 - Release Date: 21/06/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.10/25 - Release Date: 21/06/2005

Does anyone have information on Hunts of Berkeley or Wotton ? I am interested in Elizabeth Hunt who married John Wallington 5 Dec 1780 in Wotton but the licence stated their abodes as Berkeley. A witness was John Hunt. Thanks Andy

Thanks Marilyn, I couldn't resist it either! I wonder whether Samuel PRITCHARD was the son of Samuel PRITCHARD & Mary KEEPEN. They were having children baptised at Chipping Sodbury around 1770 and I know that they had a son called Samuel. Cheers Carole "I also found Samuel Pritchard 30 Chipping Sodbury, Gloucestershire, England Private, Marine Marilyn" -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 17/06/2005

Thank You Marilyn for the link. Regards Sian Marilyn Moffat <marilyn@moffat-mk.co.uk> wrote: I don't know Sian - I forgot to add the URL - so you can browse it for yourself here . http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/trafalgarancestors/ _____ From: Sian Evans [mailto:evans6441@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: 21 June 2005 14:02 To: Marilyn Moffat Subject: Re: [HWK] Trafalgar Service roll on line Hi Marilyn, There was,nt any Loveday's amongst them by any chance? Thanks Sian. Marilyn Moffat wrote: I couldn't resist ... having found the advanced search I can see there were 359 men who came from Gloucestershire... including this one: Samuel Edwards 24 Whillinderidge, Gloucestershire, England Ordinary Seaman Whillinderidge??????? What chance do you think I have for the "most weird transcription" error? My bet - unless someone knows better is this might JUST be Wotton-under-Edge?????????? I also found Samuel Pritchard 30 Chipping Sodbury, Gloucestershire, England Private, Marine Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn Moffat" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:51 PM Subject: [HWK] Trafalgar Service roll on line > I've just noticed that the National Archives have transcribed the crew &! gt; lists for all the ships that fought at the Battle of Trafalgar as part of > the 200 year celebrations. This is now on line and searchable, so you can > see if you are related to anyone!! > > I've done a quick search and the nearewst I get is 2 THOMPSONs born in > Bristol ...but it isn't exactly a rare name round there!! > > Good Hunting > > Marilyn > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > Visit Robert Millard's local and family history web pages at > http://www.hawkesburyhistory.co.uk. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== Please remember when you post messages that SURNAMES should be in CAPITALS. ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429 _____ Yahoo! er.yahoo.com%0d%0a> Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling ssenger.yahoo.com%0d%0a> worldwide with voicemail ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== Please remember when you post messages that SURNAMES should be in CAPITALS. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx --------------------------------- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos

Hi Marilyn et al Charles Chappell aged 26 born in Thornbury, Gloucestershire, England. Ship: HMS Victory Rank/Rating: Private, Marine Service details Comments: From: Chatham HQs HMS Victory Ship's pay book number: (SB 24) 14 April 1803 to 15 January 1806 (Was at Trafalgar) Comments: Discharged 15 Jan 1806 HMS Victory paid off to Chatham Headquarters. we can trace Charles back to Oldbury on the Hill he was a Royal Marine and was wounded on HMS Victory same day Nelson recieved his fatal wound, but while Nelson ended up in a large vat of French brandy, Charles was transfered to Chatham Naval Hospital where his wound (a leg I think) was tended, later discharged from the Navy his transport was provided to Thornbury where he survived on his Navy pension and no doubt got a few free pints over a war story in the pub. was there a WITCHELL conection to Charles? regards Robert Visit my web pages at http://www.hawkesburyhistory.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn Moffat" <marilyn@moffat-mk.co.uk> To: <ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:50 PM Subject: RE: [HWK] Trafalgar Service roll on line >I don't know Sian - I forgot to add the URL - so you can browse it for > yourself here . > > > > http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/trafalgarancestors/ > > > > _____ > > From: Sian Evans [mailto:evans6441@yahoo.co.uk] > Sent: 21 June 2005 14:02 > To: Marilyn Moffat > Subject: Re: [HWK] Trafalgar Service roll on line > > > > Hi Marilyn, > > > > There was,nt any Loveday's amongst them by any chance? > > > > Thanks > > > > Sian. > > Marilyn Moffat <marilyn@moffat-mk.co.uk> wrote: > > I couldn't resist ... having found the advanced search I can see there were > 359 men who came from Gloucestershire... including this one: > Samuel > Edwards > 24 > Whillinderidge, Gloucestershire, England > Ordinary Seaman > > > > > Whillinderidge??????? What chance do you think I have for the "most weird > transcription" error? My bet - unless someone knows better is this might > JUST be Wotton-under-Edge?????????? > I also found > Samuel > Pritchard > 30 > Chipping Sodbury, Gloucestershire, England > Private, Marine > > > Marilyn > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marilyn Moffat" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:51 PM > Subject: [HWK] Trafalgar Service roll on line > > >> I've just noticed that the National Archives have transcribed the crew > &! gt; lists for all the ships that fought at the Battle of Trafalgar as > part of >> the 200 year celebrations. This is now on line and searchable, so you can >> see if you are related to anyone!! >> >> I've done a quick search and the nearewst I get is 2 THOMPSONs born in >> Bristol ...but it isn't exactly a rare name round there!! >> >> Good Hunting >> >> Marilyn >> >> >> ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== >> Visit Robert Millard's local and family history web pages at >> http://www.hawkesburyhistory.co.uk. >> >> ============================== >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> >> > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > Please remember when you post messages that SURNAMES should be in CAPITALS. > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta > rgetid=5429 > > _____ > > Yahoo! > <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail/uk/taglines/default/messenger/*http:/uk.messeng > er.yahoo.com%0d%0a> Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling > <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail/uk/taglines/default/messenger/*http:/uk.beta.me > ssenger.yahoo.com%0d%0a> worldwide with voicemail > > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > Please remember when you post messages that SURNAMES should be in CAPITALS. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > >

I don't know Sian - I forgot to add the URL - so you can browse it for yourself here . http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/trafalgarancestors/ _____ From: Sian Evans [mailto:evans6441@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: 21 June 2005 14:02 To: Marilyn Moffat Subject: Re: [HWK] Trafalgar Service roll on line Hi Marilyn, There was,nt any Loveday's amongst them by any chance? Thanks Sian. Marilyn Moffat <marilyn@moffat-mk.co.uk> wrote: I couldn't resist ... having found the advanced search I can see there were 359 men who came from Gloucestershire... including this one: Samuel Edwards 24 Whillinderidge, Gloucestershire, England Ordinary Seaman Whillinderidge??????? What chance do you think I have for the "most weird transcription" error? My bet - unless someone knows better is this might JUST be Wotton-under-Edge?????????? I also found Samuel Pritchard 30 Chipping Sodbury, Gloucestershire, England Private, Marine Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn Moffat" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:51 PM Subject: [HWK] Trafalgar Service roll on line > I've just noticed that the National Archives have transcribed the crew &! gt; lists for all the ships that fought at the Battle of Trafalgar as part of > the 200 year celebrations. This is now on line and searchable, so you can > see if you are related to anyone!! > > I've done a quick search and the nearewst I get is 2 THOMPSONs born in > Bristol ...but it isn't exactly a rare name round there!! > > Good Hunting > > Marilyn > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > Visit Robert Millard's local and family history web pages at > http://www.hawkesburyhistory.co.uk. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== Please remember when you post messages that SURNAMES should be in CAPITALS. ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429 _____ Yahoo! <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail/uk/taglines/default/messenger/*http:/uk.messeng er.yahoo.com%0d%0a> Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail/uk/taglines/default/messenger/*http:/uk.beta.me ssenger.yahoo.com%0d%0a> worldwide with voicemail

Mary Witchall married Richard Wallington, mercer of Wotton Under Edge at Hawkesbury in 1698. They had a daughter called Mary. Does anyone have any information on her baptism dates etc please? Andy

I couldn't resist ... having found the advanced search I can see there were 359 men who came from Gloucestershire... including this one: Samuel Edwards 24 Whillinderidge, Gloucestershire, England Ordinary Seaman Whillinderidge??????? What chance do you think I have for the "most weird transcription" error? My bet - unless someone knows better is this might JUST be Wotton-under-Edge?????????? I also found Samuel Pritchard 30 Chipping Sodbury, Gloucestershire, England Private, Marine Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn Moffat" <marilyn@Moffat-mk.co.uk> To: <ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:51 PM Subject: [HWK] Trafalgar Service roll on line > I've just noticed that the National Archives have transcribed the crew > lists for all the ships that fought at the Battle of Trafalgar as part of > the 200 year celebrations. This is now on line and searchable, so you can > see if you are related to anyone!! > > I've done a quick search and the nearewst I get is 2 THOMPSONs born in > Bristol ...but it isn't exactly a rare name round there!! > > Good Hunting > > Marilyn > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > Visit Robert Millard's local and family history web pages at > http://www.hawkesburyhistory.co.uk. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

I've just noticed that the National Archives have transcribed the crew lists for all the ships that fought at the Battle of Trafalgar as part of the 200 year celebrations. This is now on line and searchable, so you can see if you are related to anyone!! I've done a quick search and the nearewst I get is 2 THOMPSONs born in Bristol ...but it isn't exactly a rare name round there!! Good Hunting Marilyn

At 06:10 PM 20/06/2005, you wrote: >Kempsford It is in Gloucester. You may find a freeware program called ParLoc , a Parish Locator program useful. Go to http://www.parloc.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Frame.htm Gary, in sunny Rockhampton, Queensland, Australia http://www.sunzine.net/rockhampton/welcome.html Home Page: http://www.gbnf.com/genealog2/liddell/home.htm -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 17/06/2005

At 11:41 AM 20/06/2005, you wrote: >What does everyone think? I for one would be happy to do some of the >transcriptions? Would anyone be able to approach the Gloucester Records >office about this? I have helped do this for another area in Gloucester & the RO is quite helpful. Unfortunately due to Full time study I will be unable to help at this time. Gary, in sunny Rockhampton, Queensland, Australia http://www.sunzine.net/rockhampton/welcome.html Home Page: http://www.gbnf.com/genealog2/liddell/home.htm -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 17/06/2005