I have just discovered this list. My maiden name was WORLOCK and my family were farmers from the Wotton Under Edge area. Some of my relative were from HAWKESBURY, TRESHAM, COOMBE & OZLEWORTH. I'd love to correspond with anyone with WORLOCK connections. Yours Jane Slowgrove (nee Worlock) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Hi Robert and all, I need to correct some errors with this confusing family! The 1861 -1881 census details below relate to another Henry MILSOM who was an Apprentice shoemaker (unmarried) in Chipping Sodbury in 1851. He married Ann KERRICK in 1852. The Sopworth Ag lab Henry MILSOM appears on the 1871 and 1881 census at Buck farm, Lower Machen, Momouthshire. His son Alfred is with him and several other offspring. Also, it seems, a 2nd wife called Margaret If anyone wants the census details, let me know. Hope you are all as confused as I am now! Cheers Carole -----Original Message----- From: ANTHONY SHARP [mailto:sharpafc@btinternet.com] Sent: 17 July 2005 22:23 To: ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HWK] MILSOM & CREW Hi Robert, Would you like to marry Ann Sophia CREW to Henry MILSOM, instead of William? They were married at Sopworth WILTS in 1849. Here's Henry in 1851 while his wife Ann is with her mother, as you said. 1835 1851 CENSUS HO107/1835 FF.516 - 525 ED. 20 MALMESBURY WEST Piece: 1835 Folio: 519 Schedule: 002 Address: Sopworth MILSOM Henry HD M 25 Ag Lab WIL Sopworth (c1826) HEARDS John LG U 21 Ag Lab WIL Badminton (c1830) Kay has come up with the following information: (nopte hopw the ages remain fairly constant but the place of birth and occupations are not consistent. Must be same family though. In 1861 Henry MILSOM and his wife Ann and family resided at Rouncavil Street, Chipping Sodbury (and indeed Henry and Ann were there in 1871 and 1881) The 1861 details are: Henry MILSOM Head 29 Hawkesbury Upton Cordwainer (c 1832) Ann MILSOM Wife 32 Hawkesbury Upton (c 1829) Agnes MILSOM Dau 8 Hawkesbury Upton (c1853) Frederick K MILSOM Son 3 Hawkesbury Upton (c 1858) Emma S MILSOM Dau 1 Hawkesbury Upton (c 1860) The 1871 details are: Henry MILSOM Head 40 Chipping Sodbury Postman (c 1831) Ann MILSOM Wife 42 Chipping Sodbury (c 1829) Agnes MILSOM Dau 18 Chipping Sodbury (c 1853) Fredrick MILSOM Son 12 Chipping Sodbury (c 1859) Emma MILSOM Dau 11 Chipping Sodbury (c 1860) Elizabeth MILSOM Dau 5 Chipping Sodbury (c 1866) The 1881 details are; Henry MILSOM Head 50 Chipping Sodbury Postman (c 1831) Ann MILSOM Wife 55 Chipping Sodbury (c 1826) Elizabeth MILSOM Dau 14 Chipping Sodbury (c 1831) You will note that there is no son Alfred in the 1861 Census, nor could I find an Alfred to fit the 1851 Census details.I did note that an Alfred MILSOM died Dec Q 1857 Chipping Sodbury 6a 110 who I suspect is the 1851 Alfred (born Sep Q 1849 Malmesbury 8 349) Cheers Carole -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.15/49 - Release Date: 14/07/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.9.0/50 - Release Date: 16/07/2005 ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== Look out for Get Togethers at The Beaufort: Next one is Sat 7th May and then Sun 16th July. Contact Robert via his web site to book lunch. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.9.0/50 - Release Date: 16/07/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.9.0/50 - Release Date: 16/07/2005
Thanks Carole and Kay Glad you found the marriage to Henry . Adrian SHEPPERD reseached alot on this family a few years ago and a lot must be in the HWKS archive on rootsweb. regards Robert Visit my web pages at http://www.hawkesburyhistory.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "ANTHONY SHARP" <sharpafc@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 10:23 PM Subject: [HWK] MILSOM & CREW > Hi Robert, > > Would you like to marry Ann Sophia CREW to Henry MILSOM, instead of > William? They were married at Sopworth WILTS in 1849. > > Here’s Henry in 1851 while his wife Ann is with her mother, as you said. > > 1835 1851 CENSUS HO107/1835 FF.516 - 525 ED. 20 MALMESBURY WEST > > > Piece: 1835 Folio: 519 Schedule: 002 > > Address: Sopworth > > MILSOM Henry HD M 25 Ag Lab > WIL Sopworth > (c1826) > HEARDS John LG U 21 Ag Lab > WIL Badminton > (c1830) > Kay has come up with the following information: (nopte hopw the ages > remain fairly constant but the place of birth and occupations are not > consistent. Must be same family though. > > In 1861 Henry MILSOM and his wife Ann and family resided at Rouncavil > Street, Chipping Sodbury (and indeed Henry and Ann were there in 1871 > and 1881) > The 1861 details are: > Henry MILSOM Head 29 Hawkesbury Upton > Cordwainer (c 1832) > Ann MILSOM Wife 32 Hawkesbury > Upton (c 1829) > Agnes MILSOM Dau 8 Hawkesbury > Upton (c1853) > Frederick K MILSOM Son 3 Hawkesbury Upton > (c 1858) > Emma S MILSOM Dau 1 Hawkesbury Upton > (c 1860) > > The 1871 details are: > Henry MILSOM Head 40 Chipping Sodbury > Postman (c 1831) > Ann MILSOM Wife 42 Chipping > Sodbury (c 1829) > Agnes MILSOM Dau 18 Chipping Sodbury > (c 1853) > Fredrick MILSOM Son 12 Chipping > Sodbury (c 1859) > Emma MILSOM Dau 11 Chipping > Sodbury (c 1860) > Elizabeth MILSOM Dau 5 Chipping > Sodbury (c 1866) > > The 1881 details are; > Henry MILSOM Head 50 Chipping Sodbury > Postman (c 1831) > Ann MILSOM Wife 55 Chipping > Sodbury (c 1826) > Elizabeth MILSOM Dau 14 Chipping Sodbury > (c 1831) > > > You will note that there is no son Alfred in the 1861 Census, nor could > I find an Alfred to fit the 1851 Census details.I did note that an > Alfred MILSOM died Dec Q 1857 Chipping Sodbury 6a 110 who I suspect is > the 1851 Alfred (born Sep Q 1849 Malmesbury 8 349) > > Cheers > Carole > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.15/49 - Release Date: > 14/07/2005 > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.9.0/50 - Release Date: 16/07/2005 > > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > Look out for Get Togethers at The Beaufort: Next one is Sat 7th May and > then Sun 16th July. Contact Robert via his web site to book lunch. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > >
Hi Robert, Would you like to marry Ann Sophia CREW to Henry MILSOM, instead of William? They were married at Sopworth WILTS in 1849. Here’s Henry in 1851 while his wife Ann is with her mother, as you said. 1835 1851 CENSUS HO107/1835 FF.516 - 525 ED. 20 MALMESBURY WEST Piece: 1835 Folio: 519 Schedule: 002 Address: Sopworth MILSOM Henry HD M 25 Ag Lab WIL Sopworth (c1826) HEARDS John LG U 21 Ag Lab WIL Badminton (c1830) Kay has come up with the following information: (nopte hopw the ages remain fairly constant but the place of birth and occupations are not consistent. Must be same family though. In 1861 Henry MILSOM and his wife Ann and family resided at Rouncavil Street, Chipping Sodbury (and indeed Henry and Ann were there in 1871 and 1881) The 1861 details are: Henry MILSOM Head 29 Hawkesbury Upton Cordwainer (c 1832) Ann MILSOM Wife 32 Hawkesbury Upton (c 1829) Agnes MILSOM Dau 8 Hawkesbury Upton (c1853) Frederick K MILSOM Son 3 Hawkesbury Upton (c 1858) Emma S MILSOM Dau 1 Hawkesbury Upton (c 1860) The 1871 details are: Henry MILSOM Head 40 Chipping Sodbury Postman (c 1831) Ann MILSOM Wife 42 Chipping Sodbury (c 1829) Agnes MILSOM Dau 18 Chipping Sodbury (c 1853) Fredrick MILSOM Son 12 Chipping Sodbury (c 1859) Emma MILSOM Dau 11 Chipping Sodbury (c 1860) Elizabeth MILSOM Dau 5 Chipping Sodbury (c 1866) The 1881 details are; Henry MILSOM Head 50 Chipping Sodbury Postman (c 1831) Ann MILSOM Wife 55 Chipping Sodbury (c 1826) Elizabeth MILSOM Dau 14 Chipping Sodbury (c 1831) You will note that there is no son Alfred in the 1861 Census, nor could I find an Alfred to fit the 1851 Census details.I did note that an Alfred MILSOM died Dec Q 1857 Chipping Sodbury 6a 110 who I suspect is the 1851 Alfred (born Sep Q 1849 Malmesbury 8 349) Cheers Carole -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.15/49 - Release Date: 14/07/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.9.0/50 - Release Date: 16/07/2005
Hi Janet I'd like some details of this tree please. There seem to be conflicting versions of the family on the Web so I am relying on my own research. But a family version would be most welcome! Thanks Carole -----Original Message----- From: Janwils77@aol.com [mailto:Janwils77@aol.com] Sent: 17 July 2005 18:12 To: ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HWK] MILSOM FAMILY Hi I have in my possession a family tree drawn up by a descendant of the Milsom family that was sent to me in 1999. It commences with James Milsom 1754 - 1775 who married Sarah Gay 1754 - 1839. If anyone is interested please contact me. Janet _janwils77@aol.com_ (mailto:janwils77@aol.com) ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== Please remember when you post messages that SURNAMES should be in CAPITALS. ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.9.0/50 - Release Date: 16/07/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.9.0/50 - Release Date: 16/07/2005
Hi I have in my possession a family tree drawn up by a descendant of the Milsom family that was sent to me in 1999. It commences with James Milsom 1754 - 1775 who married Sarah Gay 1754 - 1839. If anyone is interested please contact me. Janet _janwils77@aol.com_ (mailto:janwils77@aol.com)
Hi Linda Here's the entry from the Hawkesbury Parish Register NO 52 Nathaniel SARGENT of the parish of Alderlay and Mary MILSOM of the same parish were married in this church by banns 13th October 1804 by me Henry J RANDOLPH Curate. Signed with their mark Nathaniel SARGENT & Mary MILSOM Witnesses David SARGENT (X): Wm POWER Hope this helps. Carole -----Original Message----- From: Linda Barraclough [mailto:kapana@netspace.net.au] Sent: 16 July 2005 06:46 To: ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HWK] MILSOM Hi Everyone, Don't get a lot of chance to work on this family, but just posting my MILSOM for the record, since the name is under discussion: Mary MILSOM, mar 13 Oct 1804 at Hawkesbury to Nathaniel Sargeant. Children born 1805-1812 at Kingswood. I have no idea who her parents are. Regards Linda Victoria, Australia -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.15/49 - Release Date: 14/07/2005 ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== Please remember when you post messages that SURNAMES should be in CAPITALS. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.15/49 - Release Date: 14/07/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.16/50 - Release Date: 15/07/2005
Hi Everyone, Don't get a lot of chance to work on this family, but just posting my MILSOM for the record, since the name is under discussion: Mary MILSOM, mar 13 Oct 1804 at Hawkesbury to Nathaniel Sargeant. Children born 1805-1812 at Kingswood. I have no idea who her parents are. Regards Linda Victoria, Australia -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.15/49 - Release Date: 14/07/2005
Hi to all Hope the get together tomorrow is a success. Unfortunately, I cannot attend. Bob Lawrence ************************************** R.P.& A.L.Lawrence The Hazels, Sheepwood Road, Bristol, BS10 7BS, U.K. Phone: 0117 9504314 **************************************
Hi Robert Sorry to say that I will not be able to join you tomorrow. Enjoy your lunch! Carole -----Original Message----- From: Robert Millard [mailto:robert@hawkesburyhistory.co.uk] Sent: 15 July 2005 17:49 To: ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HWK] Get Together Sat 15th July Hi All Just a reminder we have a meeting at the Beaufort Hawkesbury tomorrow I'll be there at 12 for lunch. regards Robert Visit my web pages at http://www.hawkesburyhistory.co.uk -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.15/49 - Release Date: 14/07/2005
Hi Robert, I take your point about all these interconnected families but I haven't came across the COBBLY's yet!!! The William MILSOM I have in mind said he was a bachelor when he married Mary Ann BOULTON in 1855. Parish Register - Hawkesbury, No 209 Oct 27 1855, William MILSOM 36 bachelor Farmer of Luckington, son of George MILSOM Labourer & Mary Ann BOULTON 23 spinster Upton, dau of William BOULTON Labourer. Witnesses Giles HICKS X & Jane ?Jenny HICKS; John WINBOW. I have also assumed that he was the one lodging with the DAVIS family in 1851 as the age and place of birth tie in with that of subsequent censuses; he is also shown as unmarried in 1851. It looks as if we are both trying to claim this William! Shall we toss a coin? Cheers Carole . -----Original Message----- From: Robert Millard [mailto:robert@hawkesburyhistory.co.uk] Sent: 15 July 2005 17:45 To: ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HWK] William MILSOM, BOULTON & WATTS & TUCK & LEWIS uncle Tom Cobbly and all Hi Carole Are we talking of William MILSOM who married Ann Sopfia CREW possibly in Clifton 1847, they had a child Alfred aged abt 1 in 1851, On the census Ann is visiting her mother Frances CREW at Inglestone Common Hawkesbury with Alfred while William is at the DAVIS household at Petty France Hawkesbury. regards Robert Visit my web pages at http://www.hawkesburyhistory.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "ANTHONY SHARP" <sharpafc@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 10:47 PM Subject: [HWK] MILSOM, BOULTON & WATTS & TUCK & LEWIS! > Hi All > If anyone has a connection to these families, please concentrate on the > following! I apologise for all the detail but I have seen this family on > several websites, none of which mention the fact that William MILSOM > married twice! > . > William MILSOM was born abt 1820 at Sopworth WIL and can be found in > Hawkesbury on the 1851 census. lodging with William DAVIS and family. > On Oct 27 1855, at St Mary’s Hawkesbury, William MILSOM 36 Farmer of > Luckington, son of George MILSOM Labourer married Mary Ann BOULTON 23 > Upton, dau of William BOULTON Labourer. > > William & Mary Ann MILSOM had at least 5 children, including Isaac > Septimus, Lucy, Emily, Reuben & George between 1855 and 1864 at > Luckington, WIL. . > > Mary Ann MILSOM died Dec Qtr 1864 and William BOULTON remarried in Mar > Qtr 1867 at Luckington to Ann WATTS, I don’t have the details but I am > 99% certain that she is the daughter of Maurice WATTS & his wife Ann > (TUCK). > > William & Ann had at least 2 children, Amy Annie & Edith, again, both > born at Luckington. > > In 1884, Emily MILSOM, daughter of William & his first wife Mary Ann, > married John Maurice WATTS, the illegitimate son of Ann WATTS, who had > become the 2nd wife of William MILSOM!! > > In Oct 1893, Amy Annie MILSOM married John WATTS, son of William WATTS & > Emma LEWIS of Hawkesbury Upton. William WATTS was also the son of > Maurice WATTS & his wife Ann (TUCK) and therefore a brother of Ann WATTS > and uncle of Amy Annie MILSOM! > > If anyone wants the associated census details, provided courtesy of Kay, > please ask. > > Cheers > Carole > > .. > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.12/46 - Release Date: > 11/07/2005 > > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > Please remember when you post messages that SURNAMES should be in > CAPITALS. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== Visit Robert Millard's local and family history web pages at http://www.hawkesburyhistory.co.uk. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.15/49 - Release Date: 14/07/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.15/49 - Release Date: 14/07/2005
Hi Ronda/Carole, I would like to comment on the Witchell below...have been away and so many emails! Have not had time for family history. If you come across any Witchells and family connections I am always interested.I think I need time to be able to think about all these connections eg. Witchell /Wallington /Watts....have become confused...... Patsy on 14/7/05 10:05 pm, ANTHONY SHARP at sharpafc@btinternet.com wrote: > Hi Ronda > I did consider this Ann but discounted her as too old. Also Ann the > daughter of Nathaniel & Elizabeth (Witchell) WATTS of Sopworth - about > the right age but wrong birthplace. The Ann who was William MILSOM's > wife is consistently born about 1834-5 and in Hawkesbury according to > the censuses. My money is still on Ann, daughter of Morrice & Ann > (TUCK)WATTS. > > Thanks for your input! > > Cheers > Carole > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ronda Wicks [mailto:r.wicks@cabletv.on.ca] > Sent: 13 July 2005 05:05 > To: ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [HWK] MILSOM, BOULTON & WATTS & TUCK & LEWIS! > > Hi Carole, > > Another possibility might be Ann WATTS b abt 1845 Great Badminton d/o > John > WATTS (of Tormarton) and Mary Ann WEBB. By 1861 Mary Ann (WEBB) WATTS > had > remarried and was living at the Portcullis Inn (Great Badminton). > > Ann WATTS, their daughter, was living with parents John and Mary Ann in > Great Badminton in 1851 and with her mother Mary Ann DAVIES in 1861. I > don't > know where she was in 1871 however - so she may have married (which > would be > fitting with an 1867 marriage). > > I have no other details of this Ann but she might be worth considering > ... ? > > Ronda > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ANTHONY SHARP" <sharpafc@btinternet.com> > To: <ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 2:47 PM > Subject: [HWK] MILSOM, BOULTON & WATTS & TUCK & LEWIS! > > >> Hi All >> If anyone has a connection to these families, please concentrate on > the >> following! I apologise for all the detail but I have seen this family > on >> several websites, none of which mention the fact that William MILSOM >> married twice! >> . >> William MILSOM was born abt 1820 at Sopworth WIL and can be found in >> Hawkesbury on the 1851 census. lodging with William DAVIS and family. >> On Oct 27 1855, at St Mary¹s Hawkesbury, William MILSOM 36 Farmer of >> Luckington, son of George MILSOM Labourer married Mary Ann BOULTON 23 >> Upton, dau of William BOULTON Labourer. >> >> William & Mary Ann MILSOM had at least 5 children, including Isaac >> Septimus, Lucy, Emily, Reuben & George between 1855 and 1864 at >> Luckington, WIL. . >> >> Mary Ann MILSOM died Dec Qtr 1864 and William BOULTON remarried in Mar >> Qtr 1867 at Luckington to Ann WATTS, I don¹t have the details but I am >> 99% certain that she is the daughter of Maurice WATTS & his wife Ann >> (TUCK). >> >> William & Ann had at least 2 children, Amy Annie & Edith, again, both >> born at Luckington. >> >> In 1884, Emily MILSOM, daughter of William & his first wife Mary Ann, >> married John Maurice WATTS, the illegitimate son of Ann WATTS, who had >> become the 2nd wife of William MILSOM!! >> >> In Oct 1893, Amy Annie MILSOM married John WATTS, son of William WATTS > & >> Emma LEWIS of Hawkesbury Upton. William WATTS was also the son of >> Maurice WATTS & his wife Ann (TUCK) and therefore a brother of Ann > WATTS >> and uncle of Amy Annie MILSOM! >> >> If anyone wants the associated census details, provided courtesy of > Kay, >> please ask. >> >> Cheers >> Carole >> >> .. >> >> -- >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.12/46 - Release Date: >> 11/07/2005 >> >> >> >> ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== >> Please remember when you post messages that SURNAMES should be in > CAPITALS. >> >> ============================== >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and > the >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.13/47 - Release Date: > 7/12/2005 >> >> > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > Please remember when you post messages that SURNAMES should be in > CAPITALS. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx
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Hi Carole Are we talking of William MILSOM who married Ann Sopfia CREW possibly in Clifton 1847, they had a child Alfred aged abt 1 in 1851, On the census Ann is visiting her mother Frances CREW at Inglestone Common Hawkesbury with Alfred while William is at the DAVIS household at Petty France Hawkesbury. regards Robert Visit my web pages at http://www.hawkesburyhistory.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "ANTHONY SHARP" <sharpafc@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 10:47 PM Subject: [HWK] MILSOM, BOULTON & WATTS & TUCK & LEWIS! > Hi All > If anyone has a connection to these families, please concentrate on the > following! I apologise for all the detail but I have seen this family on > several websites, none of which mention the fact that William MILSOM > married twice! > . > William MILSOM was born abt 1820 at Sopworth WIL and can be found in > Hawkesbury on the 1851 census. lodging with William DAVIS and family. > On Oct 27 1855, at St Mary’s Hawkesbury, William MILSOM 36 Farmer of > Luckington, son of George MILSOM Labourer married Mary Ann BOULTON 23 > Upton, dau of William BOULTON Labourer. > > William & Mary Ann MILSOM had at least 5 children, including Isaac > Septimus, Lucy, Emily, Reuben & George between 1855 and 1864 at > Luckington, WIL. . > > Mary Ann MILSOM died Dec Qtr 1864 and William BOULTON remarried in Mar > Qtr 1867 at Luckington to Ann WATTS, I don’t have the details but I am > 99% certain that she is the daughter of Maurice WATTS & his wife Ann > (TUCK). > > William & Ann had at least 2 children, Amy Annie & Edith, again, both > born at Luckington. > > In 1884, Emily MILSOM, daughter of William & his first wife Mary Ann, > married John Maurice WATTS, the illegitimate son of Ann WATTS, who had > become the 2nd wife of William MILSOM!! > > In Oct 1893, Amy Annie MILSOM married John WATTS, son of William WATTS & > Emma LEWIS of Hawkesbury Upton. William WATTS was also the son of > Maurice WATTS & his wife Ann (TUCK) and therefore a brother of Ann WATTS > and uncle of Amy Annie MILSOM! > > If anyone wants the associated census details, provided courtesy of Kay, > please ask. > > Cheers > Carole > > .. > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.12/46 - Release Date: > 11/07/2005 > > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > Please remember when you post messages that SURNAMES should be in > CAPITALS. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > >
Hi Ronda I did consider this Ann but discounted her as too old. Also Ann the daughter of Nathaniel & Elizabeth (Witchell) WATTS of Sopworth - about the right age but wrong birthplace. The Ann who was William MILSOM's wife is consistently born about 1834-5 and in Hawkesbury according to the censuses. My money is still on Ann, daughter of Morrice & Ann (TUCK)WATTS. Thanks for your input! Cheers Carole -----Original Message----- From: Ronda Wicks [mailto:r.wicks@cabletv.on.ca] Sent: 13 July 2005 05:05 To: ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HWK] MILSOM, BOULTON & WATTS & TUCK & LEWIS! Hi Carole, Another possibility might be Ann WATTS b abt 1845 Great Badminton d/o John WATTS (of Tormarton) and Mary Ann WEBB. By 1861 Mary Ann (WEBB) WATTS had remarried and was living at the Portcullis Inn (Great Badminton). Ann WATTS, their daughter, was living with parents John and Mary Ann in Great Badminton in 1851 and with her mother Mary Ann DAVIES in 1861. I don't know where she was in 1871 however - so she may have married (which would be fitting with an 1867 marriage). I have no other details of this Ann but she might be worth considering ... ? Ronda ----- Original Message ----- From: "ANTHONY SHARP" <sharpafc@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 2:47 PM Subject: [HWK] MILSOM, BOULTON & WATTS & TUCK & LEWIS! > Hi All > If anyone has a connection to these families, please concentrate on the > following! I apologise for all the detail but I have seen this family on > several websites, none of which mention the fact that William MILSOM > married twice! > . > William MILSOM was born abt 1820 at Sopworth WIL and can be found in > Hawkesbury on the 1851 census. lodging with William DAVIS and family. > On Oct 27 1855, at St Mary’s Hawkesbury, William MILSOM 36 Farmer of > Luckington, son of George MILSOM Labourer married Mary Ann BOULTON 23 > Upton, dau of William BOULTON Labourer. > > William & Mary Ann MILSOM had at least 5 children, including Isaac > Septimus, Lucy, Emily, Reuben & George between 1855 and 1864 at > Luckington, WIL. . > > Mary Ann MILSOM died Dec Qtr 1864 and William BOULTON remarried in Mar > Qtr 1867 at Luckington to Ann WATTS, I don’t have the details but I am > 99% certain that she is the daughter of Maurice WATTS & his wife Ann > (TUCK). > > William & Ann had at least 2 children, Amy Annie & Edith, again, both > born at Luckington. > > In 1884, Emily MILSOM, daughter of William & his first wife Mary Ann, > married John Maurice WATTS, the illegitimate son of Ann WATTS, who had > become the 2nd wife of William MILSOM!! > > In Oct 1893, Amy Annie MILSOM married John WATTS, son of William WATTS & > Emma LEWIS of Hawkesbury Upton. William WATTS was also the son of > Maurice WATTS & his wife Ann (TUCK) and therefore a brother of Ann WATTS > and uncle of Amy Annie MILSOM! > > If anyone wants the associated census details, provided courtesy of Kay, > please ask. > > Cheers > Carole > > .. > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.12/46 - Release Date: > 11/07/2005 > > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > Please remember when you post messages that SURNAMES should be in CAPITALS. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.13/47 - Release Date: 7/12/2005 > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== Please remember when you post messages that SURNAMES should be in CAPITALS. ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.12/46 - Release Date: 11/07/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.14/48 - Release Date: 13/07/2005
Carole Thanks to you and Kay for that information. I found Eliza E Rodway in the 1881 census age 32 working as a domestic servant at the home of Peregrine Joyce in Stonehouse. Her marriage to Charles Toghill is another example of the connections between Hawkesbury and the Berkeley area. Eliza was born at Ham, and Charles' daughter Mary married William MILLS at Berkeley while Charles' son Charles Edward married Minnie TAYLER from Stone. Bob ************************************** R.P.& A.L.Lawrence The Hazels, Sheepwood Road, Bristol, BS10 7BS, U.K. Phone: 0117 9504314 ************************************** -----Original Message----- From: ANTHONY SHARP [mailto:sharpafc@btinternet.com] Sent: 13 July 2005 12:50 To: ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HWK] MILSOM & TOGHILL & RODWAY! Bob, I knew the TOGHILLs would get in on the act somewhere! Kay, who is not such a cheapskate as you, has come up with some answers! Cheers Carole Eliza Emily MILSOM married Charles TOGHILL Jun Q 1893 Chipping Sodbury 6a 391. 1891 Census at Tresham. Hawkesbury: Joseph MILSOM Head 54 Sopworth Wilt Ag lab Eliza MILSOM Wife 42 Ham Green Glouc Eliza Emily RODWAY married Joseph MILSOM Sep Q 1890 Chipping Sodbury 6a 372 Joseph MILSOM died Jun Q 1892 Chipping Sodbury 6a 149 aged 55 In trying to find Joseph MILSOM in earlier Census have had no luck other than in 1861 at Tresham Hawkesbury: Joseph MILSOM Haed 27 Sopworth Wilt Shepherd Ann MILSOM Wife 37 Hawkesbury However In 1871 and 1881 at Pucklechurch there is a George MILSOM, Ag Lab, born 1836 Sopworth Wiltshire and his wife is Anne (1871) born Westerleigh and Ann (born 1830) Westerleigh. Their children, all born Pucklechurch, were Elizabeth born 1859, Mary born 1861, Sarah born 1864, Henry born 1864 and Ellen born 1866. I cannot find a death in FreeBMD for an Ann(e) MILSOM between 1881 and 1890 where the age would satisfy either 1824 (1861 Census) or 1830/1 (1871/1881 Census). It is possible that Joseph/George could be a brother/cousin of William of our previous communications. Kay -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.12/46 - Release Date: 11/07/2005 ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== Look out for Get Togethers at The Beaufort: Next one is Sat 7th May and then Sun 16th July. Contact Robert via his web site to book lunch. ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx
Bob, I knew the TOGHILLs would get in on the act somewhere! Kay, who is not such a cheapskate as you, has come up with some answers! Cheers Carole Eliza Emily MILSOM married Charles TOGHILL Jun Q 1893 Chipping Sodbury 6a 391. 1891 Census at Tresham. Hawkesbury: Joseph MILSOM Head 54 Sopworth Wilt Ag lab Eliza MILSOM Wife 42 Ham Green Glouc Eliza Emily RODWAY married Joseph MILSOM Sep Q 1890 Chipping Sodbury 6a 372 Joseph MILSOM died Jun Q 1892 Chipping Sodbury 6a 149 aged 55 In trying to find Joseph MILSOM in earlier Census have had no luck other than in 1861 at Tresham Hawkesbury: Joseph MILSOM Haed 27 Sopworth Wilt Shepherd Ann MILSOM Wife 37 Hawkesbury However In 1871 and 1881 at Pucklechurch there is a George MILSOM, Ag Lab, born 1836 Sopworth Wiltshire and his wife is Anne (1871) born Westerleigh and Ann (born 1830) Westerleigh. Their children, all born Pucklechurch, were Elizabeth born 1859, Mary born 1861, Sarah born 1864, Henry born 1864 and Ellen born 1866. I cannot find a death in FreeBMD for an Ann(e) MILSOM between 1881 and 1890 where the age would satisfy either 1824 (1861 Census) or 1830/1 (1871/1881 Census). It is possible that Joseph/George could be a brother/cousin of William of our previous communications. Kay -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.12/46 - Release Date: 11/07/2005
Carole Thanks for this information. Any information on this family is helpful as I'm trying to sort out a mystery relationship to this MILSOM family below. Isaac Septimus MILSOM (son of William Milsom/Mary Ann Boulton) of Sopworth married Alice Mathilda TEAGLE (dau of Alfred TEAGLE from Didmarton) at St Marys Fishponds 10 Sept 1887, they later lived in Risca, Monmouthshire. Six years earlier in 1881, Isaac was living with his uncle Robert MILSOM in Sopworth (presumably William's brother), but the mystery I have is that Alice Mathilda TEAGLE was also living with Robert MILSOM in Sopworth in 1881, and is shown as his niece - she was only aged 13 at the time, many years before she married Robert's nephew Isaac, so it sounds as though Isaac and Alice were cousins whem they married. I'm hoping this might help identify Alice's mother - her name was Sarah, but surname unknown, and the only marriage found for Alice's father Alfred TEAGLE was in 1856 to Elizabeth HARDING. Whether Sarah/Elizabeth are the same person or Sarah was a second wife is not yet known. Does any census data show, or does anyone have, a Sarah connected to this MILS! OM family or a connection to the name HARDING? Richard Teagle -----Original Message----- From: ANTHONY SHARP [mailto:sharpafc@btinternet.com] Sent: 12 July 2005 22:47 To: ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HWK] MILSOM, BOULTON & WATTS & TUCK & LEWIS! Hi All If anyone has a connection to these families, please concentrate on the following! I apologise for all the detail but I have seen this family on several websites, none of which mention the fact that William MILSOM married twice! . William MILSOM was born abt 1820 at Sopworth WIL and can be found in Hawkesbury on the 1851 census. lodging with William DAVIS and family. On Oct 27 1855, at St Mary’s Hawkesbury, William MILSOM 36 Farmer of Luckington, son of George MILSOM Labourer married Mary Ann BOULTON 23 Upton, dau of William BOULTON Labourer. William & Mary Ann MILSOM had at least 5 children, including Isaac Septimus, Lucy, Emily, Reuben & George between 1855 and 1864 at Luckington, WIL. . Mary Ann MILSOM died Dec Qtr 1864 and William BOULTON remarried in Mar Qtr 1867 at Luckington to Ann WATTS, I don’t have the details but I am 99% certain that she is the daughter of Maurice WATTS & his wife Ann (TUCK). William & Ann had at least 2 children, Amy Annie & Edith, again, both born at Luckington. In 1884, Emily MILSOM, daughter of William & his first wife Mary Ann, married John Maurice WATTS, the illegitimate son of Ann WATTS, who had become the 2nd wife of William MILSOM!! In Oct 1893, Amy Annie MILSOM married John WATTS, son of William WATTS & Emma LEWIS of Hawkesbury Upton. William WATTS was also the son of Maurice WATTS & his wife Ann (TUCK) and therefore a brother of Ann WATTS and uncle of Amy Annie MILSOM! If anyone wants the associated census details, provided courtesy of Kay, please ask. Cheers Carole .. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.12/46 - Release Date: 11/07/2005 ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== Please remember when you post messages that SURNAMES should be in CAPITALS. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx
Carole Are you aware that in June 1893, Charles TOGHILL (born about 1828, Latteridge) married Eliza Emily MILSOM? She was his second wife, his first being my gt-gt-grandmother Elizabeth COOPER nee TAVINDER I have never found out who Eliza was, and do not have the marriage certificate. In the 1901 census, she is age 52 and born Hawkesbury. It is possible she was a widow when she married. I do not have access to the 1891 census at present (cheapskate!), and this may give a clue. There is nothing I can see in the 1881 census. Sorry for the non-response to all the interesting posts over the past five weeks. We were away for three weeks, and are in the process of moving house. Bob ************************************** R.P.& A.L.Lawrence The Hazels, Sheepwood Road, Bristol, BS10 7BS, U.K. Phone: 0117 9504314 ************************************** -----Original Message----- From: ANTHONY SHARP [mailto:sharpafc@btinternet.com] Sent: 12 July 2005 22:47 To: ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HWK] MILSOM, BOULTON & WATTS & TUCK & LEWIS! Hi All If anyone has a connection to these families, please concentrate on the following! I apologise for all the detail but I have seen this family on several websites, none of which mention the fact that William MILSOM married twice! . William MILSOM was born abt 1820 at Sopworth WIL and can be found in Hawkesbury on the 1851 census. lodging with William DAVIS and family. On Oct 27 1855, at St Mary’s Hawkesbury, William MILSOM 36 Farmer of Luckington, son of George MILSOM Labourer married Mary Ann BOULTON 23 Upton, dau of William BOULTON Labourer. William & Mary Ann MILSOM had at least 5 children, including Isaac Septimus, Lucy, Emily, Reuben & George between 1855 and 1864 at Luckington, WIL. . Mary Ann MILSOM died Dec Qtr 1864 and William BOULTON remarried in Mar Qtr 1867 at Luckington to Ann WATTS, I don’t have the details but I am 99% certain that she is the daughter of Maurice WATTS & his wife Ann (TUCK). William & Ann had at least 2 children, Amy Annie & Edith, again, both born at Luckington. In 1884, Emily MILSOM, daughter of William & his first wife Mary Ann, married John Maurice WATTS, the illegitimate son of Ann WATTS, who had become the 2nd wife of William MILSOM!! In Oct 1893, Amy Annie MILSOM married John WATTS, son of William WATTS & Emma LEWIS of Hawkesbury Upton. William WATTS was also the son of Maurice WATTS & his wife Ann (TUCK) and therefore a brother of Ann WATTS and uncle of Amy Annie MILSOM! If anyone wants the associated census details, provided courtesy of Kay, please ask. Cheers Carole .. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.12/46 - Release Date: 11/07/2005 ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== Please remember when you post messages that SURNAMES should be in CAPITALS. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx
Hi All If anyone has a connection to these families, please concentrate on the following! I apologise for all the detail but I have seen this family on several websites, none of which mention the fact that William MILSOM married twice! . William MILSOM was born abt 1820 at Sopworth WIL and can be found in Hawkesbury on the 1851 census. lodging with William DAVIS and family. On Oct 27 1855, at St Mary’s Hawkesbury, William MILSOM 36 Farmer of Luckington, son of George MILSOM Labourer married Mary Ann BOULTON 23 Upton, dau of William BOULTON Labourer. William & Mary Ann MILSOM had at least 5 children, including Isaac Septimus, Lucy, Emily, Reuben & George between 1855 and 1864 at Luckington, WIL. . Mary Ann MILSOM died Dec Qtr 1864 and William BOULTON remarried in Mar Qtr 1867 at Luckington to Ann WATTS, I don’t have the details but I am 99% certain that she is the daughter of Maurice WATTS & his wife Ann (TUCK). William & Ann had at least 2 children, Amy Annie & Edith, again, both born at Luckington. In 1884, Emily MILSOM, daughter of William & his first wife Mary Ann, married John Maurice WATTS, the illegitimate son of Ann WATTS, who had become the 2nd wife of William MILSOM!! In Oct 1893, Amy Annie MILSOM married John WATTS, son of William WATTS & Emma LEWIS of Hawkesbury Upton. William WATTS was also the son of Maurice WATTS & his wife Ann (TUCK) and therefore a brother of Ann WATTS and uncle of Amy Annie MILSOM! If anyone wants the associated census details, provided courtesy of Kay, please ask. Cheers Carole .. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.12/46 - Release Date: 11/07/2005