Hi Mavis, Sorry I am still waiting to get my hands on the list. I will let you know as soon as I do. Geoffro PS Thanks for the postcard !!!

Hi all, Apologies for the lack of messages these past few days but I have a family as well !!! and have spent some time on that this past few days because fo some breakthroughs. My lot are getting nearer to Hawkesbury all the time. Today my mind linked 2 separate pieces of information and I would like your opinions and thoughts. Fact 1. On December 25th 1826 there were 8 THOMPSONs christened at Hawkesbury. The question has always been why. Fact 2. In 1827 The Grandfather of at least 5 of them died. Rambling Thoughts are : - Maybe they knew he was dying, perhaps a long illness, after all he was 91 and he or they wanted to set things "right". His revised will in 1823 reduced the amount 2 sons got from £5 to 5shillings but no reason. What do you think ???? Geoffro PS I believe there may well have been a ducking stool at the pond in days gone.

Dear Geoffro, I'm writing, a bit after the event, to ask, "Is there any Monumental Inscriptions on the name of WITTS?" I've been away, and I'm now going through the E-mails, so apologies for that. Hoping you can answer, could I also ask "Are there any DAVIS'S? Many thanks in advance, Regards, Mavis Williams, Flintshire. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoff Brightman" <LWYouthForum@lwwp.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2000 12:16 AM Subject: Re: Witts & Halls > > Does anyone know if there are any Monumental Inscriptions to the HALL or > WITTS families in the Graveyard of the Church or on Plaques in the Church? > > I do not know at the time of writing but if I am sober and awake enough when > I return from Hawkesbury on Friday night then I will mail the just completed > index to all the Monumental Inscriptions at St Mary's Hawkesbury both those > from BIGLAND and those still standing or readable now. > > This is a piece of work done by a member of the Hawkesbury Local History > Society - of which more in future posts. > > > Geoffro > > > ============================== > Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. > >

I've just been recapping my mail, and found your query again... The name rang a bell because I now live near the town of Bletchley, but I'm fairly sure I've seen it before, and I think it might be because he was actually the enumerator of the Hawkesbury 1851 census ... or some in the villages around - have you noticed that? Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Davies" <bihinv@axionet.com> To: <ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 7:24 PM Subject: [[Hawks]] BLETCHLY, Ebenezer > Hi List > Is anyone researching Ebenezer BLETCHLY in Hawkesbury, 1851? I have found an entry in the 1851 Census which shows my G-G-Grandmother, Charlotte HOPKINS, and her sister, Mary, working as servants in the residence of Dr? Ebenezer BLETCHLY. I am hoping to get some background information. Thanks. > Regards from the "Wetcoast" of Canada > Karen Davies > > > > ============================== > Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. > >

In 1803 when Samuel THOMPSON wrote his will he mentioned buying some land from a Mrs Sarah WOOD and a Mrs Mary JONES. Does anybody know of these 2 ladies. Is Mary JONES the wife of Meredith JONES the couple of having children in the 1790's the Mary JONES I am looking for ? Geoffro

re WINBOW, WOOLNOUGH and PUBS: I am in shock, I just dug out my notes and found a connection between John WINBOW and the Hawkesbury Pubs! It seems that John WINBOW was innkeeper at the Beaufort Arms circa 1837-1845, according to a letter that I received from Mark Steeds in late 1998 (sorry I can't be more precise, disk crashes will do that!). In 1842 George WOOLNOUGH was innkeeper at Sherston at "the New Inn" which belonged to Thomas WINDOW(WINBOW?) 1842 Tithe Map Tenant of land at Sherston owned by Thomas Window Thomas Window 141 Yds and Bldgs Owner 142 Malthouse, garden, orchard George Woolnough 143 The New Inn Occupier 144 Little Down (Pasture) Payable to vicar 5/3 1851 Census for Sherston Magna Victualler Pubs named "The New Inn" appear in both Hawkesbury and Sherston... perhaps both owned by WINBOWs? And tenanted by WOOLNOUGHs? This is getting VERY interesting!!! Cheers from New York, Ken Murray

Thanks Ken It would eb useful if you caould post the Thomas WINBOW details if only to have them available on the archives. Geoffro

Another old message dug from my files follows I too have interests in Hawkesbury, though most of my mother's family came from just over the border in Sopworth. These were Milsom's and I am in regular touch with Milsom GOONS (Brian and Barbara Fox) and a steadily growing number of distant cousins. The names with a Hawkesbury connection are: Nathaniel TANDY who married Mary BRUSH or BRASH at H on 5 July 1759 (one of my 4G Grandparents) and their daughter Jane TANDY baptised 16 November 1766 at H Joseph HICKS and Ann HORT or HART who married 31 December 1810 at H 1759 (one of my 3G Grandparents) and Ann ??? the wife of William MILSOM (second cousin twice removed) and she was born circa 1835 at Upton Hawkesbury. Please let me know if anyone else interested in these families - no hurry. John Hong Kong Geoffro

7 months ago I received an email with details of appointments from a Chipping Sodbury solicitors diary. The following was included as part. 28/9/1934 Mrs E. Thompson called re. A. Milsom deceased. Left instructions for you to obtain probate. Hope tis of use Geoffro

In case it is of use to anyone the following is an email from Kaye Purnell which I received last June. More of the same will follow. G'day Geoff In case anyone should contact you with the following Hawkesbury interests: On my index I have the family of George HALE and Elizabeth nee FOX who arrived in Tasmania 1833 per "Lady East". George was born Hillesley 27 May 1793 but his chn were all bapt Hawkesbury; Caroline Hawkesbury 7 May 1826 Elizabeth Hawkesbury 22 Aug 1824 Emma Hawkesbury 27 Apr 1823 Hannah Hawkesbury 9 Sep 1821 Also the family of Thomas TEAGLE who arrived 1853 "Royal Charlie" (Port Adelaide SA). Thomas was born Didmarton c1801 (his wife Ann was dead) but the chn were all said to be born Hawkesbury: George Hawkesbury c1839 Louisa Jane Hawkesbury c1849 Mary Ann Hawkesbury c1845 Worthy Hawkesbury c1842 except for eldest son John C born Hillesley c1835 - the family was living at Hillesley 1851. Hope this may be of interest to someone. Regards Kaye Geoffro

Some info about inns and pubs in Hawkesbury and H. Upton c1830-1850 passed on to me by my relative B.A. Whitworth of Guernsey, who got this from correspondence with the Duke of Beaufort's Badminton Estate. The inns are the traditional taverns we are familiar with, but "beerhouses" were very rough "low rent" private houses which sold only beer, follwowing the 1830 Beer Act when any householder could do so. The Dunkirk Inn and Petty France Inn were both owned by the Duke. The Fox Inn and the Beaufort Arms were privately owned, and still operate today (Mark Steeds is the very helpful proprietor of the Beaufort, which was once named the "Duke of Beaufort"). The "New Inn" was a private house which became an inn in 1844 (possibly by 1836) and was once again a private house by 1853. From this, it sounds awfully like a beerhouse. The Barley Mow was a beerhouse, and is now a private house. My ancestor George WOOLNOUGH and his brother Robert were shown as "innkeepers" on their children's 1837 baptismal records. I suspect they were at the New Inn c1837-1840, because the years match up and George shows up keeping an "inn" of that name at Sherston a few years later. Also, we've pretty much eliminated all the others. Geoffro, would you mind dropping a copy of this to Mark Steeds next time you need an excuse to stop in there? <he says with a straight face> Cheers to Mark! Best wishes, Ken Murray in New York

He may have been either parish clerk, or a churchwarden. Several of these in my HAREWELL collection. The churchwardens would set out the hymnals, ring the bells etc. The parish clerk had other secretarial duties, and higher status as it meant he could actually read and write, quite unusual in those small villages at the time. By the way, a Thomas WINBOW shows up in Sherston Magna as a landowner in 1840... I can find the details if you are interested. One of my forebears rented land from him, and we just happened to notice his headstone in the church when we were visiting last year. Cheers... Ken M. >> The witnesses are William CARTER and John WINBOW. >> >> John WINBOW appears to be a witness at lots of Hawkesbury weddings. The >> question is why ?? >My ggfather was a parish clerk and he is a witness on nearly all the >weddings in his village. >Could this be the same?

Hi Geoff, > John WINBOW appears to be a witness at lots of Hawkesbury weddings. The > question is why ?? Is it possible he was a Churchwarden, or some sort of close supporter of the Church? I have seen my TILY family appearing a lot as witnesses and then checked the Bishop's Transcripts and found that they signed as Church Warden for the year that they appeared so often. Just a thought. Cheers Ed

> The witnesses are William CARTER and John WINBOW. > > John WINBOW appears to be a witness at lots of Hawkesbury weddings. The > question is why ?? My ggfather was a parish clerk and he is a witness on nearly all the weddings in his village. Could this be the same? Doug

Hi I am also researching the name STINCHOMBE.The sister of my 2 x G.Grandfather JANE CARTER married HENRY STINCHCOMBE at Wickwar on 4.11.1865. Have you come across them? If so, did they have any children? HENRY'S father was a JAMES STINCHCOMBE, a hurdle maker by trade. Janet

I have a slightly poor photocopy ofthe parish register entry of the marriage on the 25th of October 1840 of Henry CARTER to Elizabeth SUMPTION (?). Henry is listed as full age and as the son of Elijah CARTER whose occupation may be Haulier but I am not sure. The witnesses are William CARTER and John WINBOW. John WINBOW appears to be a witness at lots of Hawkesbury weddings. The question is why ??

Jill - I've been meaning to tell you - the name CORNOCK is still current very near to Hawkesbury - there is a family living in Cromhall, and their father kept the pub there (The Royal Oak) for about 20 years up to 1939. It may be completely irelevant but you never know! Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: Jill Wiseman <jill@2up2down.fsnet.co.uk> To: <ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2000 11:05 PM Subject: [[Hawks]] CORNOCK > Geoffro > > I was a little surprised that after your kind invitation, > my pleas for help were completely unacknowledged. > > I sympathise with your little problem and hope it has > not caused you too much pain, (and embarassment). > After all, chairs have feelings too. > > I look forward to an abundance of useful stuff. > > Explain pond dipping to me one more time. > > Jill Wiseman > > > > ============================== > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > >

Hi Jill, It is with regret that I find that I and other members of the list have not been able to be of more help to you. Marilyn is correct when she says that the name is still very current near to Hawkesbury. For example there are at least half a dozen CORNOCK families living in Wotton - under - Edge according to my phone book. I fear though that for you it may be the delight of sifting through parish after parish at Gloucester Record Office until you find the right one. I notice that there 3 CORNOCK/Wotton - under - Edge researchers on David Steele's GLS surnames pages. Maybe these will be able to help you. Sorry we haven't been able to be of more help yet. Maybe something will turn up in the future. Geoffro

Geoffro I was a little surprised that after your kind invitation, my pleas for help were completely unacknowledged. I sympathise with your little problem and hope it has not caused you too much pain, (and embarassment). After all, chairs have feelings too. I look forward to an abundance of useful stuff. Explain pond dipping to me one more time. Jill Wiseman

Comments etc on the following welcomed. There were 2 Thomas CARTER's christened at Hawkesbury in this time period. The first was on the 19th of June 1808 and has Mary alone as the mother. I am assuming that Janet has got a copy of the Bastardy papers to have the name Thomas SIMS. The second Thomas was son of James CARTER and Elizabeth THOMSPON and christened on the 21st May 1809. Thomas married Martha and based on Janet's evidence I am more than prepared to cede that it was Thomas son of Mary who did so. That leaves the question what happened to the other Thomas ?? I don't know yet but I will find out and I will amend all my records accordingly. I will also check all the other CARTER info against what I have and see what I can come up with. My apologies for the mistake. Geoffro ( about to throw himself in the pond )