can anyone help please I have an Isaac CHAPPELL married to a Jane?? they had a child James b.1817at Hawkesbury, who is Jane, when did they marry. I think he later married Elizabeth Gingell in 1849 she already has a child was Gingell her married name. he has a son also named Isaac CHAPPELL b.1820 who married an Ann Tavinder? in 1849?can anyone help please confirm this thanks Robert Millard

> Bed now, I'm sure Geoffro will start the ball rolling tomorrow night. You > can investigate most of our known tree on Geoffro's page: > > http://www.fortunecity.co.uk/amusement/adrenaline/17/ > Which isn't all Geoffro's work and is known to contain some mistakes and will be removed and corrected as soon as I can find the username and password Geoffro The Pond Dipper

Hi Bob Just got in late and found your message. You are only the second sixth cousin we have found! (The other descends from Thomas THOM(P)SON's brother, Giles and lives in USA.) Dawn and I are descended from their brother, William. We are in contact with numerous descendants of William in UK, USA and Australia. You must get together with us and let us extend our trees. Bed now, I'm sure Geoffro will start the ball rolling tomorrow night. You can investigate most of our known tree on Geoffro's page: http://www.fortunecity.co.uk/amusement/adrenaline/17/ Keep in touch Doug Thompson (Steyning, Sussex - but born in Bristol)

Hi Bob, Make sure you are sitting down when you read this. Later tonight I will post a full and proper reply to your message. Firstly, though, welcome to the Hawkesbury list. Secondly welcome to the THOMPSON family. My partner Dawn THOMPSON and your other newly found cousins Doug T and Marilyn will all say hello to you later I am sure. If you don't ring me first either tonight ( I'll be up for a few hours yet so don't worry) or tomorrow morning then I shall telephone you when I arise from the depths of my pond. We're off to the GFHS fair at 11am tomorrow and will probably not return to Bristol until about 6 or 7pm. To whet you appetite your Thomas THOMPSON was one of 8 children of William THOMPSON and Elizabeth ALLEN. William came to Hawkesbury in 1722/3 after finishing his apprenticeship. Cousin Marilyn is also going to be in Gloucester I think.... Doug won't be........but he will be nicely surprised when he sees your message.....as was I. So the telephone numbers are 0117 938 1338 Fax 0117 983 0700 Mobile 07932 898 902 or try shouting because you live about a mile away. Geoffro The Pond Dipper

Hi All My gt-grandmother was baptised Rosina COOPER at Hawkesbury on 30th October 1853, the youngest daughter of Thomas COOPER (1812 - 1854) and Elizabeth nee TAVENDER (1815 - 1891). Rosina moved to London in the 1870s, where she married Daniel KEMP, a postman. She died in September 1889, shortly after the birth of her third child. Thomas COOPER was the son of Joseph COOPER (c 1756 - 1833) and Mary THOMPSON (1777 - 1872). Joseph and Mary appear to have had 8 children. Mary (1805), Harriet (1806), Joseph (1808) and Thomas (1812) seem to have been illegitimate, since Mary was the subject of a £100 bastardy bond, and the other three were baptised with the comment "reputed father Joseph COOPER". Later children - John (1814), William (1817), James (1821) and Ann (1829) were baptised as the children of Joseph and Mary COOPER, but I have not yet found a marriage for Joseph and Mary. I have also not been able to establish why Joseph and Mary did not marry before about 1812. Was Joseph married to someone else? Or were they related in some way which prohibited their marriage? Mary Thompson's mother was Ann Cooper, so it is possible they were uncle and niece. The Thompsons, Coopers and Tavenders intermarried with various other Hawkesbury families. After the death of her husband, Elizabeth Cooper married Charles TOGHILL and had two more children. In the 1841 census, Thomas Cooper is listed as a coal haulier. Does anyone know what this means? Did he take coal to Hawkesbury, or was he involved in the transport of coal from local mines to other places. Where were the nearest coal mines to Hawkesbury, It must have been a hard pull up the road from Hawkesbury church to Hawkesbury Upton. Any help with information on these families would be much appreciated. Bob Lawrence. *************************************************** R.P. & A.L. Lawrence The Hazels, Sheepwood Road, Bristol BS10 7BS, U.K. Phone: 0117 950 4314 **************************************************

I have extensive history of COROCK'S CURNOCK'S & CURNOCKE'S my granmother is one of the Hawkesbury CORNOCKS originating in Slimbridge but I have a complete family tree for CORNOCKS from Berkley Nibley Hilesley Wotton Hilesley Aust to name a few, back to 1506 plus the family coat of arms. Robert Millard

Last year some of my rellies visited from Aus and left me a pamphlet from the Cape Banks Family History Society which as far as I can gather is based in Maroubra, New South Wales. Unfortunately I cannot access their web page and their emaill addresses bounce. The following was printed in their September 1998 pamphlet although the copyright is not theirs. The Bussorah Merchant arrived in Port Jackson on the 4th September 1839. Some of my PEARCE rellies were on board as were Linda B's VAISEYs, some SHIPWAY's who were probably related to the Hawkesbury ones and of course some THOMPSONs. Divine service was performed 14 times (i.e. every Sunday) when the weather permitted; and on each occasion a sermon was read. All the emigrants were Protestant. Two schools were established: one for each sex, and about 54 children attended very regularly. To prevent idleness and consequent disease, the males were obliged to clean the decks and invited to assist the crew in working the ship, which they did very willingly. The females, also, were obliged to clean their own bed place, and were encouraged in their attempts to improve their sewing, by repairing their clothes, making and repairing bed curtains and other light works. They were likewise allowed, and urged to walk much , at a quick pace, on the quarter deck, and around the capstan, which is good exercise at sea, because the motion of the vessel compels the persons so engaged to use considerably more muscular exertion than would be required in going a greater distance on shore, or in a ship at anchor. The best of all amusements and exercises on shipboard, could not be procured for the emigrants - I mean dancing - because no individual among the crew or passengers could play the violin or any other musical instrument; to make up in some degree for this deprivation, such as the males and females , at the much inferior to that of Catalance ? were permitted and encouraged to give evening concerts of vocal music and thus an innocent amusement was afforded both to the performers and to others who could not join them. The lower deck was kept constantly dry (never being washed), and was almost daily rubbed with sand, after careful scraping, and occasional sprinkling with a strong solution of chloride of lime; no persons except those actively engaged in the work being allowed to remain below, during the process of cleaning the deck and berths. The bottom boards of the berths were carefully lifted, almost every day, in order both to promote a free circulation of air, and that no filth of any description might be suffered to remain on the deck below them. It may be added that such of the males as were mechanics, were allowed to work at their respective trades, and that to such occupations in a great degree, and still more so to the cordial co-operation o Captain Moncrief and his officers, in all that was attempted and recommended, may be ascribed the almost unexampled good health of the emigrants during a voyage of unusual length. James Scott M C Licentiate of the Royal College of Physicians of London, Surgeon Superintendent.

Hi Brian Thank you for this - I was worried I was going to have to go back to the drawing board. You say you have many COOKs. My COOK interests are extremely vague and unproved. I have a family bible dedicated to my G-G-Grandmother, Charlotte HOPKINS, of Hawkesbury. The inscription reads: [Charlotte HOPKINS In remembrance of the late Mr. John COOK who died Aug. 3rd 1848. And by it "the ?long? dead ?yet? speaketh" Hebr XI 4.] I am reading from a copy of a copy of a scanned copy, so it is possible the quote is not correct. I deduce that John COOK was possibly (or likely) Charlotte's Grandfather. I have not yet got her mother's maiden name and so it is possible it was COOK. Her mother was Caroline and she married James HOPKINS. I have found them in Newent on 1851 Census and it shows her birthplace as Linton, GLS. Have you anything that might prove any of this? Thanks and Regards from Vancouver Karen Davies ----- Original Message ----- From: <DeeMorg@aol.com> To: <ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 2:47 PM Subject: [[Hawks]] Re: [[Hawks]] Families with children of same name > Hi, > >From the experience in my own sets of families over the counties of Hereford, > Somerset, Gloucester, Wilts and parts of Wales I would say it was extremely > common to use the name of a dead child for the next one of the same sex. I > have one example, where a girl, Alice, died and three successive girls were > born, all named Alice, all but the last died. Quite different in more recent > times, when it seems that a dead child's name is not used again. Of course > today we don't use names in a familial succession context that is so useful > to genealogists. > > Which Cooks are you looking at in Hawkesbury? I have many. > > Brian Morgan > > ______________________________

Hi Karen, >possibly the children were born to 2 sets of parents of the same name.< Similar problem with my family at Charlton, Wilts, mid 1700s: incredibly we have no less than three couples named Zebulon and Mary HAREWELL all having children at about the same time, with the kids having all the same names..... talk about spaghetti!!!! Cheers... Ken Murray

Thanks Geoffro So far my stuff only goes back to Jane / Weeks Pincott - and I kpt it as a note only as you were (I thought) unsure about what you's found at the time ... M ----- Original Message ----- From: Geoff Brightman <LWYouthForum@lwwp.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2000 11:59 PM Subject: [[Hawks]] Re: [[Hawks]] Re: [[Hawks]] HULBERT - GULWELL and of course THOMPSON > > Hi Geoff > > > > So - who is Mary Gulwell? I havenn't a record of the link to her. > > > > Sorry Marilyn thought I had sent you this at some point. Most of the PINCOTT > info was supplied by Tony James. Me and Doug spent hours discussing which > Jane was the Jane that married Samuel. > > > Descendants of Matthew Pincot > > > Generation No. 1 > > 1. MATTHEW1 PINCOT He married MARY GULWELL January 11, 1711/12 in > Hawkesbury, Glos, daughter of WILLIAM GULWELL and MARY SMYTH. She was born > August 03, 1690 in Hawkesbury, Glos. > > Children of MATTHEW PINCOT and MARY GULWELL are: > i. DANIEL2 PINCOT, b. April 03, 1715, Hawkesbury, Glos. > ii. WILLIAM PINCOT, b. September 08, 1717, Hawkesbury, Glos. > 2. iii. JOHN PINCOT, b. July 24, 1720, Hawkesbury, Glos. > iv. BENJAMIN PINCOT, b. January 10, 1721/22, Hawkesbury, Glos. > v. ANNE PINCOT, b. December 05, 1725, Hawkesbury, Glos. > 3. vi. WEEKS PINCOT, b. August 02, 1728, Hawkesbury, Glos; d. 1812. > vii. THOMAS PINCOT, b. April 16, 1732, Hawkesbury, Glos. > > > Generation No. 2 > > 2. JOHN2 PINCOT (MATTHEW1) was born July 24, 1720 in Hawkesbury, Glos. He > married ELIZABETH + PINCOTT. > > Child of JOHN PINCOT and ELIZABETH PINCOTT is: > 4. i. SAMUEL3 PINCOTT. > > 3. WEEKS2 PINCOT (MATTHEW1) was born August 02, 1728 in Hawkesbury, Glos, > and died 1812. He married MARY STINCHCOMB December 22, 1751 in Hawkesbury, > Glos, daughter of NATHANIEL STINCHCOMB and DEBORAH RODWAY. She was born > February 08, 1728/29 in Hawkesbury, Glos, and died April 06, 1774 in > Hawkesbury, Glos. > > Children of WEEKS PINCOT and MARY STINCHCOMB are: > i. MATHEW3 PINCOT, b. August 08, 1752, Hawkesbury, Glos. > ii. JOYCE PINCOT, b. October 12, 1755, Hawkesbury, Glos. > 5. iii. JANE PINCOTT, b. January 28, 1758, Hawkesbury, Glos; d. May 01, > 1825, Hawkesbury, Glos. > > > Generation No. 3 > > 4. SAMUEL3 PINCOTT (JOHN2 PINCOT, MATTHEW1) He married ABIGAIL + PINCOTT. > > Child of SAMUEL PINCOTT and ABIGAIL PINCOTT is: > i. ANN CURTIS4 PINCOTT, m. WILLIAM WOODWARD. > > 5. JANE3 PINCOTT (WEEKS2 PINCOT, MATTHEW1) was born January 28, 1758 in > Hawkesbury, Glos, and died May 01, 1825 in Hawkesbury, Glos. She married > SAMUEL THOMPSON June 09, 1783 in Hawkesbury, Glos, son of JAMES TOMSON and > MARY TOMSON. He was born Abt. 1755 in Hawkesbury, Glos, and died 1834 in > Hawkesbury, Glos. > > Children of JANE PINCOTT and SAMUEL THOMPSON are: > i. JAMES4 THOMPSON (2), b. Abt. 1784, Hawkesbury, Glos; d. 1850, > Hawkesbury, Glos; m. ANNA JAMES, May 10, 1809, Hawkesbury, Glos. > ii. MARY THOMPSON (2), b. February 1786, Hawkesbury, Glos. > iii. JOYCE THOMPSON, b. March 23, 1788, Hawkesbury, Glos; m. JOHN SMITH, > February 29, 1816, Hawkesbury, Glos. > iv. ISAAC THOMPSON (2), b. December 1790, Hawkesbury, Glos; m. JANE + > THOMPSON, Bef. 1815; b. 1793; d. 1834. > v. SAMUEL THOMPSON (2), b. Bef. 1794, Hawkesbury, Glos; d. 1860, > Paddington, NSW; m. MARIA CHAPPELL, May 18, 1816, Hawkesbury, Glos; b. > October 05, 1783, Oldbury on the Hill, Glos; d. 1863, Eden, NSW. > vi. KITTY THOMPSON, b. December 27, 1795, Hawkesbury, Glos; m. JOHN CLARKE, > November 07, 1818, Hawkesbury, Glos. > vii. JOSEPH THOMPSON, b. Abt. 1802, Hawkesbury, Glos; m. ELIZA SIMS, April > 19, 1827, Hawkesbury, Glos; b. Bef. August 02, 1807, Hawkesbury, Glos; d. > 1832, Hawkesbury, Glos. > > > Geoffro > > > ============================== > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi > >

Thanks very much Mavis. I was afraid it was another problem with the IGI to watch out for. I've been having such great luck finding whole families there and hoped this was a common practice. Regard Karen Davies Vancouver, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mavis Williams" <MotherMave@jfandm.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com> Cc: "Karen Davies" <bihinv@axionet.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [[Hawks]] Families with children of same name > Dear Karen, > Yes this was most common, there are lots of instances in my family. > Regards, Mavis Williams, Flintshire.

Dear Karen, Yes this was most common, there are lots of instances in my family. Regards, Mavis Williams, Flintshire. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Davies" <bihinv@axionet.com> To: <ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 5:32 PM Subject: [[Hawks]] Families with children of same name > Hi List > I have a query about the naming of children. I have encountered a couple of instances where a couple is credited with 2 children of the same name and one where they actually had 2 sets (ie. William & John, twins - William & John later, a couple of years apart). My first inclination was that the first born had died. I then began to think that possibly the children were born to 2 sets of parents of the same name. Today I noticed in a posting by Gary Park that he had 2 Williams in his PARK family, the first having died young. Can anyone tell me, was this a common practice? > Regards > Karen Davies > Vancouver, Canada > Now Researching > in Lancashire: WHITWORTH > in Hawkesbury: WHITWORTH, HOPKINS, COOK, ?DAVIS? > in Oxenhall: HOPKINS, RICKETS, WOOD, ARNOLD > in Westbury-on-Trym: HOPKINS, ?DAVIS? > in Bristol: DAVIS, HINDER, DAWES, > in Channel Islands: KENDALL, BENGEFIELD (BENEFIELD), STONEMAN > in Middlesex (London) HUMAN > > > ============================== > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi > >

Hi, >From the experience in my own sets of families over the counties of Hereford, Somerset, Gloucester, Wilts and parts of Wales I would say it was extremely common to use the name of a dead child for the next one of the same sex. I have one example, where a girl, Alice, died and three successive girls were born, all named Alice, all but the last died. Quite different in more recent times, when it seems that a dead child's name is not used again. Of course today we don't use names in a familial succession context that is so useful to genealogists. Which Cooks are you looking at in Hawkesbury? I have many. Brian Morgan

I have just joined the list and would like to post my interests: EDWARDS Dodington, Old Sodbury and Tormarton RUSSELL Hawkesbury, Old Sodbury and Acton Turville COOK Hawkesbury, Upton, Wickwar, Badminton SHIPTON Tetbury, Hawkesbury BRISTOL/BRISTOW Wickwar CLARK Hawkesbury HANCOCK Tormarton, Codrington Will be pleased to hear from anyone with similar interests Thank you Sally (Hammond) Wiltshire

Hi List I have a query about the naming of children. I have encountered a couple of instances where a couple is credited with 2 children of the same name and one where they actually had 2 sets (ie. William & John, twins - William & John later, a couple of years apart). My first inclination was that the first born had died. I then began to think that possibly the children were born to 2 sets of parents of the same name. Today I noticed in a posting by Gary Park that he had 2 Williams in his PARK family, the first having died young. Can anyone tell me, was this a common practice? Regards Karen Davies Vancouver, Canada Now Researching in Lancashire: WHITWORTH in Hawkesbury: WHITWORTH, HOPKINS, COOK, ?DAVIS? in Oxenhall: HOPKINS, RICKETS, WOOD, ARNOLD in Westbury-on-Trym: HOPKINS, ?DAVIS? in Bristol: DAVIS, HINDER, DAWES, in Channel Islands: KENDALL, BENGEFIELD (BENEFIELD), STONEMAN in Middlesex (London) HUMAN

Hi I knew the name EBENEZER BLETCHLEY rang bells but its taken me a while to realise why. He appears to have been the registrar for the Chipping Sodbury district which included the Hawkesbury area in the late 1830's and for part of the 1840's hence his signature on numerous birth and death certificates. Hope this helps whoever it was who wanted to know. Janet

Hi Stephen, With regard to your THOMPSON , BUTLER and others, you mention the name REED. I have details of a marriage on 25.9.1797 at Hawkesbury of an ANN REED to THOMAS CARTER. Have you come across this one and if so do you have any details? I have a copy of a death certificate for ANN dated 4.11.1843 aged 82 putting her birth around 1761.It states she died of Dropsy and was the widow of THOMAS CARTER Labourer. Janet

Hello, everyone. I've been in contact with Geoffro before, but this is my first posting to the list to let you know where exactly my interests lie. James BUTLER of Horton married Elizabeth THOMPSON of Hawkesbury in 1773. I think Elizabeth was the daughter of James & Mary, baptised at Hawkesbury in 1743, and this is as far as I've got with the THOMPSONs. However, I do have quite a bit on the BUTLERs and REEDs of Horton, and on the GALEs of Tormarton, all of whom presumably married into Hawkesbury families, so please get in touch if you'd like me to see if I have anything that might help. Best wishes, Stephen ___________________________________________________________ From: Stephen Gadd in Bournemouth, England Mailto:StephenGadd@RutterGadd.co.uk Read about us at: http://www.RutterGadd.co.uk or listen to us on BBC Radio 2, 26th May, "Friday Night is Music Night" ___________________________________________________________

Hi Geoff So - who is Mary Gulwell? I havenn't a record of the link to her. M ----- Original Message ----- From: Geoff Brightman <LWYouthForum@lwwp.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 24, 2000 11:32 PM Subject: [[Hawks]] HULBERT - GULWELL and of course THOMPSON > Hi Brian, Marilyn et al > > Welcome to the list and thnak you for the info re Mary GULWELL who is 6th G > Grandmother to my partner Dawn THOMPSON, Marily MOFFAT and lister Doug > THOMPSON who loves this list so much he has subscribed to it twice with > different email addresses since his return from his holiday. > > Would love to know your connection to Mary GULWELL. I am also in touch with > descendants of Mary who are not list members and more than a dozen other > Hawkesbury researchers who are not list members. > > Spoke to Marilyn again on the phone briefly this morning whcih reminds me to > mention to her that Orange End is also on the latest OS map. > > Talk soon > > Geoffro > > > > > ============================== > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi > >

-----Original Message----- From: Gary Park <gary.park@clear.net.nz> To: ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com <ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, 23 April 2000 12:29 Subject: [[Hawks]] Park Family >Hi to the Haweksbury List From New Zealand, >I am trying to find the parents of Daniel Horwood PARK b. abt 1726 >Hawkesbury Gloucester. He married Elizabeth RICHENS formely DAVIS 2 Aug. >1750 at Hawkesbury, she was b. 4 May 1730 Hawkesbury d. 10 Mar. 1798 >Kingswood Gloucester. From what I can work out their children are, > Williiam b. 2 Aug.1753 d. 4 Jul 1762. > Peter b. 27 Jun. 1754 Kingswood. > William b. 13 Jan. 1765 Wickwar d. 7 Feb. 1832 m. Mary AMOS 19 May 1791. >These are my 3xgr. grandparents and have seen their graves at WICKWAR >Thomas b. 1 Apr. 1770 Kingswood d. 17 Jan. 1883 m. Elizabeth ??? >Edward b. 2 Sep. 1773. >If there is any kind person that can help fill a gap or two or correct >mistakes I would love to hear from you. >Regards to you all form NZ. > >GARY PARK gary.park@clear.net.nz >