> A quick IGI search finds Elizabeth THOMPSON baptised Stroud in Feb 1779. - > Right age, right place! That means she and Daniel are not ours at all! (Not > until the family gets quite a bit wider yet.) > Doug Thompson I cannot argue against Doug's findings in his previous mail. However, we may be lucky when we get to checking the Stroud and district burial registers to find that Elizabeth THOMPSONs father John THOMPSON was the brother of Giles THOMPSON. Geoffro The Pond Dipper

While going through the baptism records of Hawkesbury today I came across the baptism of Daniel, baseborn son of Elizabeth THOMPSON in July 1802. This event does not seem to be on our records. I quickly connected this with the marriage in Feb 1803 of Elizabeth THOMPSON and James CARTER. It seemed likely this was the same Elizabeth (and probably the birth prompted the marriage!). We have never been sure who this Elizabeth was. Geoffro suggested she was Betty, daughter of Giles THOMPSON and Betty MOUSSEL (baptised Horton 1775). I remained unconvinced. I moved on to check the 1851 census and there was a Daniel CARTER aged 48 - just right! A new THOMPSON relative I thought! Then I found James CARTER and Betty on the census. James OK - AGE 75 Born Hawkesbury. But - Age of Betty - 70. Place of birth - Stroud! A quick IGI search finds Elizabeth THOMPSON baptised Stroud in Feb 1779. - Right age, right place! That means she and Daniel are not ours at all! (Not until the family gets quite a bit wider yet.) But at least I'm sure of both those register entries now. Doug Thompson

Hello Folks, To Adrian,re your para on James S,b1780,I think his parents were Daniel and Sarah Guest,m Oct 1762 at Badminton.You can check this in Roe's index of Stinchcombe marriages(D3567 at Glouc CRO) Am persuing origins of Sarah G just now and think we shall find her in one of the Wilts border parishes with Badminton and Hawkesbury To Janet,sorry dont know about this Henry;I cant see any of those you mention in 1881 census index for Glouc? To Robert, Yes,John Alway S was my ggf: his lineage for a few generations back is Henry and Alice/Henry and Susanna/Daniel and Sarah/Nicholas and Sarah--and then a bit tricky but am going forThomas and Bridget/Nicholas and Martha/John and Elizabeth/Thomas/Nicholas/Thomas Note to editor;reason for delay in all my messages is simply that screen only checked at week-ends! Q? Am interested in frequency of first-cousin marriages(I have at least one on each side so far ) does anyone know statistics of all this in-breeding nationally or locally Bye,and greetings to Mrs P-D who has just been pronounced a 4th cousin john s

Whilst looking for the burial of Elizabeth MINETT nee LIMBRICK I spotted the burial of Kitty MEALING in 1841. Kitty isn't a common name thought I. Could by chance she be our Kitty THOMPSON born 1795 daughter to Samuel. Kitty married John CLARK in 1818, is mentioned in her fathers 1823 will and had a son Jesse who died in 1822 aged 19 months. John Clarke died in 1821 aged 26 leaving Kitty free to marry Richard MEALING in 1824. There were 6 children from this marriage. Only one appears in the burial register before the 1851 census. Only the 2 boys appear in the 1851 census. The 3 remaining girls and their father appear to be missing from GLS. have you seen them ? Geoffro The Pond Dipper

John STINCHCOMBE will be sending a detailed reply to all of your emails during the next day or two. Please be patient. In the meantime I have ahd the opportunity to chat with him today and he has been able to fill in some holes. John STINCHCOMBE is officially now a member of the THOMPSON tribe being 4th cousin to Mrs Pond Dipper. Geoffro The Pond Dipper

Do not worry if you are having problems accessing the census page from the website. Bernadette is kindly doing some work on it for me and us and cousin Doug is turning it into a better web page. Thnaks to both. By chance this afternnon I came across a new spelling of Hawkesbury in 1851. It is Hawksbey. Those MEALINGs who were then living at Brookthorpe will be added to the page. Geoffro The Pond Dipper

Frances ????? WOOLNOUGH aged 1 month of Dunkirk Folly buried July 23 1844 RANDOLPH was the vicar and I couldnt read the babys middle name Geoffro The Pond Dipper

Hi Ken, Hope you and yours are well. Came across this withotu looking. Eliza Frances WOOLNOUGH residing at Starvall Upton buried on September 12 1846 aged 31 with Rober DYER as the officiating minister. Hope it is of use Geoffro The Pond Dipper

Hi Hawkesbury Group I have been actively researching my ILES ancestry in and around the Bitton parish area which I have traced back to Aaron ILES and Francis ILES who had a double wedding on 22/4/1703. I have assumed these to be brothers. I have my suspicions that some of these ILES folk may have moved into the area post civil war, to get involved in the coal mining. An old member of the Bristol & Avon FHS told me that some old fella (since deceased) had traced his ILES line back to 1066 which ended up in the Hawkesbury area. I know from Domesday studies that Gloucester was most heavily populated in that area of Gloucestershire at the time of 1066 and so statistically many families will have their roots in that area. Some of the Hawkesbury IGI entries provide suspicious "name pattern" links and I know from my own experience that the IGI entries can be patchy compared with primary parish records. I have collected a lot of 17th ILES data but not yet linked up with 1703. There was a Moses ILES who died 1729 who mentioned Aaron and his sons in his will. There is also a Joseph ILES in the will. Throughout the 17th Century there are numerous references to the surname ILES alias MONK. I have record of a Nicholas ILES who appears on the scene around 1700 and a "cousin Moses ILES" mentioned as a beneficiary in a will of 1676 who appears nowhere in the parish records in my area. My question is, has anybody studying the same name in Hawkesbury come across any links with families outside - particularly the area east of Bristol or encountered a sudden disappearance of a line. Derek Iles

Robert, Here are the STINCHCOMB burials you requested.... STINCHCOMB / STINCHCOMBE / STINCHCOM 1812 May 24 Sarah STINCHCOMB 1808 May 4 Robert STINCHCOMB 1807 Feb 8 Mary Anne STINCHCOMB 1805 Oct 3 Thomas STINCHCOMB 1804 Apr 8 Mary STINCHCOMB 1804 Mar 4 Nathaniel STINCHCOMB 1803 Feb 23 Sarah STINCHCOMB 1802 Apr 4 Mary STINCHCOMB 1801 Jul 27 William STINCHCOMB 1801 May 25 Ann STINCHCOMB 1798 Aug 17 __in STINCHCOMB 1794 Jun 24 Elizabeth STINCHCOMB a child 1794 Mar 16 Rebecca STINCHCOMB 1794 Jan 26 Hannah STINCHCOMB 1794 Jan 16 Elizabeth STINCHCOMB 1793 Oct 3 Robert Stinchcomb RUSMIN a child 1793 Feb 23 John STINCHCOMB a child 1792 Aug 7 Sarah STINCHCOMB a child 1790 Sep 21 Sarah STINCHCOMB 1789 Apr 9 Robert STINCHCOMB 1789 Feb 21 Sarah STINCHCOMB 1787 Aug 29 Mary STINCHCOMB a child 1787 May Ann STINCHCOMB? 1786 Nov 2 Betty STINCHCOMB 1783 Dec 26 Diana STINCHCOMB a child 1782 Dec 27 Sarah STINCHCOMB 1779 Apr 13 William son of John STINCHCOMB 1779 Apr 13 William son of Daniel STINCHCOMB 1782 Apr 12 John STINCHCOMB 1779 Oct 10 James STINCHCOMB 1779 Apr 26 George STINCHCOMB a child 1776 Oct 28 Rachel STINCHCOMB 1774 Jul 10 Rose STINCHCOMB 1774 May 29 Nicholas STINCHCOMB 1773 Nov 10 John STINCHCOMB 1773 Apr 10 Nicholas STINCHCOMB 1772 Mar 27 Deborah STINCHCOMB 1771 Jan 1 Betty STINCHCOMB 1770 Nov 21 Isaac STINCHCOMB a child 1770 Oct 28 Hannah STINCHCOMB 1770 Oct 23 Deborah STINCHCOMB 1770 xx Thomas STINCHCOMB 1770 Apr 21 Mary STINCHCOMB 1769 May 31 Benjamin STINCHCOMB 1769 Jan 8 Hester STINCHCOMB 1768 Oct 16 Robert STINCHCOMB 1766 Dec 14 Robert STINCHCOMB 1765 Oct Nathaniel STINCHCOMB 1765 Feb 22 Rachel STINCHCOMB 1764 Sep 21 Joseph STINCHCOMB 1764 Jan 17 Hannah STINCHCOMB 1763 Jun 5 Edward STINCHCOMB 1760 Feb 3 William STINCHCOMB 1758 Dec 13 Mary STINCHCOMB 1756 Jul 9 Mary STINCHCOMB 1756 Jun 26 Margaret STINCHCOMB 1756 Jun 6 Nicholas STINCHCOMB 1754 Mar 14 Ann STINCHCOMB 1751 Nov 30 Robert STINCHCOMB a child 1751 Oct 21 James STINCHCOMB a child 1750/51 Mar 8 Mary STINCHCOMB a child 1748/49 Mar 19 George STINCHCOMB 1748/49 Feb 8 Benjamin STINCHCOMB 1747 Dec 17 Nathaniel STINCHCOMB 1745 Sep 5 Elizabeth STINCHCOMB 1743 Aug 23 Benjamin STINCHCOMB 1737/38 Mar 9 Joyce STINCHCOMB 1737 Dec 17 Thomas STINCHCOMB 1734 Nov 22 John STINCHCOMB 1728 Dec 1 Thomas STINCHCOMB 1728 Aug 7 Thomas STINCHCOMB 1723/24 Jan 3 John STINCHCOMBE the eldest 1722/23 Mar 13 Anne wife of Thomas STINCHCOMBE 1717 Sep 6 Bridget wife of Thomas STINCHCOMB [or Oct 6] 1715 Nov 3 Joan STINCHCOMB Widow 1709/10 Jan 6 Nicholas STINCHCOMB Jan 6 1704 Oct 12 Hannah xx[Coaw or Couw] dau of Thomas STINCHCOMB 1704 Oct 5 Sarah xx[Coaw or Couw] dau of Thomas STINCHCOMB 1702 Oct 3 Joseph STINCHCOM 1701/02 Feb 1 Mary? Wife of John STINCHCOM 1699 Jun 30 John STINCHCOMB 1696 May 22 Martha STINCHCOM 1694 Jul 8 Nicholas STINCHCOMB 1693 Ju 13 Joane STINCHCOM 1692 Jul 28 William STINCHCOM 1691/92 Mar 13 Martha STINCHCOM 1689/90 Feb 26 Thomas STINCHCOM 1674 Sep 13 Daniel STINCHCOMBE 1665 Jun 3 Thomas STINHCOMB 1662 Dec 11 John STINCHCOM & Ann HANCOCK [This might be a marriage!] 1628 Oct 17 John STINCHCOMBE 1623/24 Feb 14 Nicholas STINCHCOMBE 1622 Oct 23 Thomas STINCHCOMB Regards, Adrian Sheppard mailto:ade@sheppardfamily.net http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adesheppard

Hi Adrian Thanks for the STINCHCOMB web sites very interesting, the Maryland family are connected to the Hawkesbury family there are at least 2 STINCHCOMB CHAPPELL marrages so far. Have found 1081 STINCHCOMB's so far many are doubles and spelt wrongly or inaccurate dates but the whole picture should become clear at the end. Would you be kind enough to repost the STINCHCOMB burials again I lost that file recently. regards Robert Millard

Scott (the youngest twin) now aged 23 has a new girlfriend. Scott is the G G Grandson of David THOMPSON who is pictured on the web pages. His new girlfriends 1st cousins turn out to be his 3rd cousins. Fortunately Scott and Rachel do not have a direct relationship (well not one we should discuss here ). The 3rd cousins are descendants of the sister of Louisa MORSE who married Davids son Henry David. Now tell me that the whole world isnt connected to Hawkesbury in some way shape or form. Geoffro The Pond Dipper

Mr and Mrs Pond Dipper will be in the Beaufort from 8pm this evening. Please come and join us for Family History discussions. Geoffro

To all listers Tracing CARTER,s of Hawksbury and South Glos, area,.also any Whittern,Perrett.Hunt,s back to 1750,s. Brick walls on a Emily Carter b1878 (born Middlesex) gr father George Henry Carter, gm Mary Ann Perrett.cannot find parents? only reference to Emily is on 1881 census. also, Obed Carter b 1847 Louisa b 1850 Henry b1842 Mary 1842 Charles b1836 ( Parents of all William Carter & Elizabeth Whittern.) also Thomas Hunt about 1750s suspected father of 14 children to Ann Carter 1750,s( All 14 children baptised as Carter,s)

Hi Mavis Could be the Hospital Hall built about 1890 I think, it was a Hospital in first war, stood opposite the current village hall regards Robert Millard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mavis Williams" <MotherMave@jfandm.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 12:32 AM Subject: [[Hawks]] Hospital? > Dear Listers, > When I was recently in the GRO looking at the Parish Registers for > HAWKESBURY and GREAT BADMINTON, I noticed that there was a reference to a > HOSPITAL. Now I have come away, and I'm reading all I wrote down, I see I > asked the question "Where was the Hospital? at the end of one of my sheets > of scrap. I can't remember exactly where I saw it. A genealogists first > rule is to note EVERYTHING and in great detail, however in my excitement I > didn't, except the little note!!!! Does anyone any idea where the hospital > was? Mavis Williams, Flintshire. Researching:- > DAVIS, Gloucestershire and Burton-on-Trent. > WITTS, Gloucestershire > LIMBRICK, Gloucestershire. > MALLER, Powick, Worcestershire. > KERRY, West Hallam, Burton-on-Trent. > FROGGATT,Egginton,Burton-on-Trent > SID(D)AL(L)S, SYDALS, Burton-on-Trent. > TOON, Stapenhill. > CHATFIELD, Uttoxeter. > WRIGHT, Uttoxeter. > > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > Have your Hawkesbury research needs added to the Hawkesbury Family History pages. Send an email to ThePondDipper@HawkesburyFamilyHistory.co.uk > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ >

Dear Tony, With reference to the children of WILLIAM CARTER and ELIZABETH WHITTERN, the last one you mention CHARLES CARTER born 1836. WILLIAM CARTER and ELIZABETH WHITTERN did not marry until 25.09.1837 so I think it unlikely that a baptism would have been recorded under the joint names of WILLIAM and ELIZABETH CARTER in 1836, its probably a different WILLIAM and ELIZABETH. Janet

Hi Moira, I am going to order the film you mentioned, hoping to find the parents of Edward SHIPWAY who married Elizabeth TAYLOR in 1789 at Rodborough. I have just about gone through all PR and BT for the Rodborough area, so who knows? Even if I don't find him, I am interested in the THOMPSONS and CHAPPELS. Helga, Australia.

Dear Listers, When I was recently in the GRO looking at the Parish Registers for HAWKESBURY and GREAT BADMINTON, I noticed that there was a reference to a HOSPITAL. Now I have come away, and I'm reading all I wrote down, I see I asked the question "Where was the Hospital? at the end of one of my sheets of scrap. I can't remember exactly where I saw it. A genealogists first rule is to note EVERYTHING and in great detail, however in my excitement I didn't, except the little note!!!! Does anyone any idea where the hospital was? Mavis Williams, Flintshire. Researching:- DAVIS, Gloucestershire and Burton-on-Trent. WITTS, Gloucestershire LIMBRICK, Gloucestershire. MALLER, Powick, Worcestershire. KERRY, West Hallam, Burton-on-Trent. FROGGATT,Egginton,Burton-on-Trent SID(D)AL(L)S, SYDALS, Burton-on-Trent. TOON, Stapenhill. CHATFIELD, Uttoxeter. WRIGHT, Uttoxeter.

Hi Dennis Nice to see another lister with ILES interests I am decended from Daniel ILES b.abt 1740 and Joyce PANTER Moses ILES b.1766 and Ann HANCOCK Moses had two grand children living with him at Saddlewood village Hawkesbury in 1851 they later married I am decended from this couple Amelia CORNOCK and Daniel STINCHCOMB I havent got around to looking into the ILES family as yet do you know of Moses regards Robert Millard also from Yate ----- Original Message ----- From: "den toms" <denzil@yate74.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 11:00 PM Subject: [[Hawks]] Surname Interest (ILES) > Hi Listers, > Am new to the list - interested in the ILES/EYLES in and around the Hawkesbury area. > Have just obtained the 1798 will of George ILES, butcher of Hawkesbury and struggling to work out > how he fits into the Hawkesbury ILES families - if he does. He left all his property to his son > William and some money to his daughters Hannah the wife of John BLUNSON(?) of Castle Comb, and Mary > the wife of James BASEMAN(?) of Frampton Cotterrole. > Who was George's mother and father and when was he born? Was he the George baptised in 1758 > at Hawkesbury with parents George and Ann? Where and when was William and his sisters born? Who was > William's mother? Were they a Hawkesbury ILES family or incomers from the Sodbury/Horton area? > Dennis > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > Have your Hawkesbury research needs added to the Hawkesbury Family History pages. Send an email to ThePondDipper@HawkesburyFamilyHistory.co.uk > > ============================== > Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. >

Hi Listers, Am new to the list - interested in the ILES/EYLES in and around the Hawkesbury area. Have just obtained the 1798 will of George ILES, butcher of Hawkesbury and struggling to work out how he fits into the Hawkesbury ILES families - if he does. He left all his property to his son William and some money to his daughters Hannah the wife of John BLUNSON(?) of Castle Comb, and Mary the wife of James BASEMAN(?) of Frampton Cotterrole. Who was George's mother and father and when was he born? Was he the George baptised in 1758 at Hawkesbury with parents George and Ann? Where and when was William and his sisters born? Who was William's mother? Were they a Hawkesbury ILES family or incomers from the Sodbury/Horton area? Dennis