I am seeking information about my ancestors from the Hawkesbury area: (1) Thomas Fry (b. c1690) (2) his son, Joseph Fry (b. 1717/18, Alderley) (3) his son, Thomas Fry (b. 1747/48, Kingscote) (4) his son, Isaac Fry (b. 1787, Alderley; d. 1870 Tytherington) (5) his son, James Fry (b. 1815, Tytherington; d. 1890, Bridgeport, Michigan). Reply to the list or privately to <Desgourley@aol.com>. Thank you. Des Gourley, Virginia USA

Fortunately Hawkesbury has never been in Wiltshire. Kingswood (near Wotton under Edge) was a part of Wiltshire but at the same time was part of "the see of Gloucster" so was in a way part of Gloucster at the same time. Linda's question prompts me to remind all listers that they should consider Wiltshire parishes when researching Hawkesbury families. The border between GLS and WILTS near Hawkesbury is extremely twisted and there are many parishes within a 5 mile radius of Hawkesbury that are in Wiltshire not Gloucestershire. Many THOMPSON events are recorded in Wiltshire. For example Adrain SHEPPARD earned the undying thanks of the Pond Dipper for discovering an 1814 marriage in Sopworth, Wilts ( about 3-5 miles fom Hawkesbury) of Isaac THOMPSON and Jane PHELPS. Geoffro The Pond Dipper http://www.hawkesburyfamilyhistory.co.uk

Hi Linda yes your quite correct in your assuptions except Hawkesbury has never been in Wiltshire there is also another Kingswood near by in Bristol area which confuses. Regards Robert Millard. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Barraclough" <kapana@netspace.net.au> To: <ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 8:53 AM Subject: [[Hawks]] Was Hawkesbury ever in Wiltshire??? > Hi List, > > Dumb question time again. > > Most of my family are from Kingswood, which I have a 1787 map showing as > being a detached part of Wiltshire. It shows Hawkesbury as being in > Gloucestershire. But I had a feeling, somewhere, that it may have been in > Wiltshire at some stage. > > And I take it that I am correct in saying Kingswood is today in Gloucestershire. > > Help!!!!! > > Linda > An Australian who is not yet related to the THOMPSON - although I have just > had a modern researcher in the Vaiseys contact me who has the surname THOMPSON. > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > Email the Pond Dipper at ThePondDipper@HawkesburyFamilyHistory.co.uk > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ > >

G'day Taking off tomorrow for a fortnight's holiday to get in shape before the Olympics. If you email me about my GLS Immigrants to Oz Index, I will reply on our return. Regards Kaye Kaye Purnell <kayepur@ozemail.com.au> Ancestors from GLS who came to Oz? Database kept on GLS arrivals to AUS pre 1888. Entries happily accepted; searches done. Visit my site at <http://www.ozemail.com.au/~kayepur>. Snail mail to 15 Balla Machree Way, Gymea Bay NSW 2227 AUS, including SSAE or 1 IRC.

Hi Leith No. If anything the work looks like "Goods", but that does not sound right. Bob *************************************************** R.P. & A.L. Lawrence The Hazels, Sheepwood Road, Bristol BS10 7BS, U.K. Phone: 0117 950 4314 ************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: Leith Friend <leith49@i4free.co.nz> To: <ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 1:05 AM Subject: [[Hawks]] Re: [[Hawks]] Will of Thomas COOPER [1812 -= 1854] > Hi Listers > > > In the Consistory Court of Gloucester > > In the ? of Thomas Cooper deceased > > may be "In the Matter of" or any other Latin equivalent like "res" for > "thing" Does that help? > > Regards > Leith Friend > Hamilton New Zealand > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: R.P. & A.L. Lawrence <lawrence@hazels.u-net.com> > To: <ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 9:25 AM > Subject: [[Hawks]] Will of Thomas COOPER [1812 -= 1854] > > > > In the Name of God Amen, I Thomas Cooper residing in the Parish of > > Hawkesbury Upton in the County of Gloucester being in sound mind do make > > this my last Will and Testament, I give and devise unto my wife Elizabeth > > Cooper all my Money Household Goods Furniture and all my Horses Waggon > Carts > > Farming implements and every thing I have for her own use and benefit, > > > > In the Consistory Court of Gloucester > > In the ? of Thomas Cooper deceased > > > > 30th August 1854 > > > > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > Email the Pond Dipper at ThePondDipper@HawkesburyFamilyHistory.co.uk > > ============================== > Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. > > >

Hi Ruth It looks likly that Hugh PARNELL was Robert JENKINSONS "buisness manager" if such a thing existed in those days hence his name appears often. As you say there is a huge amount of info in the index which is very usefull. regards Robert Millard ----- Original Message ----- From: "withers17" <withers17@supanet.com> To: <ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 2:21 PM Subject: [[Hawks]] Hawkesbury Index I found the above site very interesting - with 2 families that I have been researching in places other than Hawkesbury. OSBORNE: "SAS/PN/937 1 Jan , 1651-2 Lease by Robert Jenkinson, esq., to John Allway of Upton in Hawkesbury, yeoman ñ for £124 in the name of a Fine ñ of a messuage or tenement in Upton in the tenure of Nathaniel OSBORNE in right of his wife Ellynor, with all barns, stables, etc." I have a Nathaniel OSBORNE (born c 1611) in West Littleton, with wife Sarah - probably nee Oldborough (Holborow?) married at St Augustine the less, Bristol in 1663. Is Sarah Nathaniel's 2nd wife? Is anyone researching this family? PARNELL There are a large number of documents witnessed by Hugh PARNELL c 1663, and one by Nicholas PARNELL. I have a Hugh PARNELL born c 1610 and died 1665 in Thornbury. His father, and his brother were called Nicholas. Another Hugh - his son, was born c 1637. Does anyone have any links with this family? Ruth Withers ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== Don't forget to bookmark http://www.HawkesburyFamilyHistory.co.uk and visit regulary. ============================== Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/

Dear Doug, I'm taking a liberty here, but I noticed below that you spoke of the 1841 census, you wouldn't have it for the GREAT BADMINTON/HAWKESBURY area's would you? If you have then you couldn't do me a big favour and see if there are family groups of (1) ELIZABETH or BETTY DAVIS,(2) JOB and ANN DAVIS and (3) WILIAM and JANE MARY DAVIS. They all worked for and lived on the Duke of Beaufort's Estate I'm pretty certain at GREAT BADMINTON? I would be very obliged if you would, and if not yourself, perhaps some kind soul would be able to help. Thanks in advance.Regards and Best Wishes, Mavis Williams, Flintshire. Researching:- DAVIS, Gloucestershire and Burton-on-Trent. WITTS, Gloucestershire LIMBRICK, Gloucestershire. MALLER, Powick, Worcestershire. KERRY, West Hallam, Burton-on-Trent. FROGGATT,Egginton,Burton-on-Trent SID(D)AL(L)S, SYDALS, Burton-on-Trent. TOON, Stapenhill. CHATFIELD, Uttoxeter. WRIGHT, Uttoxeter. PARKER, Newhall, Derby. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Thompson" <doug@thom.screaming.net> To: <ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 2:13 PM Subject: [[Hawks]] Mary NIBLETT > on 23/08/2000 11:07 pm, Geoff Brightman at > geoff_brightman6@thefreeinternet.co.uk wrote: > > > Hi Carole > > > > At this stage we do not know when or where Mary THOMPSON re NIBLETT was > > buried and can only assume that it was before 1847 when Edwin married Ann > > PITT. We are confident that she was not buried at St. Mary's Hawkesbury. > > > > Edwin is of course one of Mrs Pond Dippers THOMPSONs. > > > > Geoffro > > On the 1841 census, Edwin is living alone, daughter Jane is with Edwin's > sister, Mary Jane and son Emanuel is staying with Elizabeth NIBLETT aged 60 > (presumably a relative of Mary - mother?) > > So I would make a working assumption that Mary is dead in 1841. > > Doug Thompson > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > When replying to messages please make sure to remove ALL the "Re: and Hawks" bits in the subject line as otherwise these will be repeated. > Penalty for non-compliance is a Pond Dipping. > > ============================== > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > >

First of all thank you to Carol concerning the information about Betty, sister of 'my' Thomas CHAPPELL. We must be related somehow, but I haven't had time to work out quite how yet ! Also thank you to Geoffro for the information about the YOUNG family who were involved with the shop, but I don't think they are any thing to do with me. When would they have kept the shop ? My Great Grandfather was called George YOUNG and my Great Grandmother was Jane or Sarah Jane nee FARMER, he was born in Nettleton and she was born in West Kington. I know that my Grandfather had a brother called Harry or Henry, but I believe he went to London, and there was a sister called Mary known as Polly, who married a man by the name of GREEN, and they lived in Swindon. Now that Carol tells me that Richard and Jane CHAPPELL came from Wiltshire, I am much more of a Moonraker than I ever realised. I have another query that maybe someone can help me with, after Joseph CHAPPELL died, I don't know when but he was alive on the 1881 census, his widow Kate married again to a Dick ? GODFREY, again I don't know when or where, but they were both alive and living in Leighterton, in the early 1920's. I wonder if this means anything to anyone else out there. Unfortunately I shall not be able to join you all at the end of September, but will look forward to being able to meet everyone at the next occasion. I was more successful accessing Bill's Book the second time, and found it excellent. Regards Rita

I found the above site very interesting - with 2 families that I have been researching in places other than Hawkesbury. OSBORNE: "SAS/PN/937 1 Jan , 1651-2 Lease by Robert Jenkinson, esq., to John Allway of Upton in Hawkesbury, yeoman ñ for £124 in the name of a Fine ñ of a messuage or tenement in Upton in the tenure of Nathaniel OSBORNE in right of his wife Ellynor, with all barns, stables, etc." I have a Nathaniel OSBORNE (born c 1611) in West Littleton, with wife Sarah - probably nee Oldborough (Holborow?) married at St Augustine the less, Bristol in 1663. Is Sarah Nathaniel's 2nd wife? Is anyone researching this family? PARNELL There are a large number of documents witnessed by Hugh PARNELL c 1663, and one by Nicholas PARNELL. I have a Hugh PARNELL born c 1610 and died 1665 in Thornbury. His father, and his brother were called Nicholas. Another Hugh - his son, was born c 1637. Does anyone have any links with this family? Ruth Withers

on 23/08/2000 11:07 pm, Geoff Brightman at geoff_brightman6@thefreeinternet.co.uk wrote: > Hi Carole > > At this stage we do not know when or where Mary THOMPSON re NIBLETT was > buried and can only assume that it was before 1847 when Edwin married Ann > PITT. We are confident that she was not buried at St. Mary's Hawkesbury. > > Edwin is of course one of Mrs Pond Dippers THOMPSONs. > > Geoffro On the 1841 census, Edwin is living alone, daughter Jane is with Edwin's sister, Mary Jane and son Emanuel is staying with Elizabeth NIBLETT aged 60 (presumably a relative of Mary - mother?) So I would make a working assumption that Mary is dead in 1841. Doug Thompson

Hi Carole At this stage we do not know when or where Mary THOMPSON re NIBLETT was buried and can only assume that it was before 1847 when Edwin married Ann PITT. We are confident that she was not buried at St. Mary's Hawkesbury. Edwin is of course one of Mrs Pond Dippers THOMPSONs. Geoffro The Pond Dipper Http://www.HawkesburyFamilyHistory.co.uk -----

The church of St. Mary at Acton Turville an edifice of stone, in the Early English style, was almost entirely rebuilt, with the exception of the bell turrett and chancel arch, in 1853. The registers date 1665. Good luck with your research, Anne

Please could someone tell me the name of the church in Acton Turville please? Also, does anyone know if there are burial records for the mid 1700s? Thanks Sally (Hammond)

In 1841 Fanny NIBLETT married Henry ILES. Fanny was the daughter of Thomas NIBLETT and Mary his wife. IS Thomas perhaps your Thomas? In 1835 Mary NIBLETT married Edwin THOMPSON. Is she perhaps one of yours ? Geoffro The Pond Dipper Http://www.HawkesburyFamilyHistory.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "carole hall" <carole@hallc59.fsnet.co.uk> To: <ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 11:36 PM Subject: [[Hawks]] > I am researching the names NIBLETT and CHAPPEL, in Hawkesbury. JOHN NIBLETT married BETTY CHAPPEL in 1804 in Hawkesbury, their son WILLIAM moved to Bath and had a son JOHN who eventually came to Nottingham, where the line still remains. John NIBLETT returned to Bath after his wife died and remarried, leaving the rest of his family in Nottingham. > > JOHN NIBLETT of Hawkesbury is the son of HARRY (HENRY NIBLETT) and MARY SPENCER. There is an examination of HARYY NIBLETT, of Bagpath and Mary of Wotton Under Edge and their children SARAH NIBLETT 5, John 2 years and 6 months, THOMAS 9 months and WILLIAM 4 years. but all baptisms are listed in Hawkesbury. The date of this examination was 1 January 1779. > > I await any replies! > > CAROLE > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > Please remember when you post messages that SURNAMES should be in CAPITALS. Penalty for non-compliance is a Pond Dipping. > > ============================== > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > >

I am researching the names NIBLETT and CHAPPEL, in Hawkesbury. JOHN NIBLETT married BETTY CHAPPEL in 1804 in Hawkesbury, their son WILLIAM moved to Bath and had a son JOHN who eventually came to Nottingham, where the line still remains. John NIBLETT returned to Bath after his wife died and remarried, leaving the rest of his family in Nottingham. JOHN NIBLETT of Hawkesbury is the son of HARRY (HENRY NIBLETT) and MARY SPENCER. There is an examination of HARYY NIBLETT, of Bagpath and Mary of Wotton Under Edge and their children SARAH NIBLETT 5, John 2 years and 6 months, THOMAS 9 months and WILLIAM 4 years. but all baptisms are listed in Hawkesbury. The date of this examination was 1 January 1779. I await any replies! CAROLE

Hi Listers, Does anyone have any information on George ILES "of Upton in the Parish of Hawkesbury in the county of Gloucester Butcher" who died in 1798? According to his Will he had a son William, daughter Hannah who married John BLUNSON "of Castle Comb in the county of Wilts labourer" and daughter Mary who married James BASEMAN "of Frampton Cotterrole in the county of Gloucester labourer". Is he the George ILES with wife Anne who from the IGI data appears to have had at least two children at Yate (1744 and 1746) and then seems to have moved to Hawkesbury between 1746 and 1752 where they had more children? George left all his property to his son William so was William a butcher or did he become a butcher at Hawkesbury? As a matter of interest George's property is described as the "tenement or dwelling house wherein I now dwell with the outhouses shop stable garden and paddock of ground and premises thereto adjoining and belonging situate and being at Upton in the parish of Hawkesbury aforesaid and now in my possession and which I purchased of and from the late Robert Howett BARTON deceased" Furthermore...... "and all that tenement which I built at one end of the paddock *** and adjoining thereto with the garden thereto belonging also situate and being at Upton aforesaid and now in the occupation of Thomas COLEMAN as my tenant" The Will was made on 6 August 1796 and witnessed by John PROUT, James RODWAY and John SYMONS ( who probably wrote the will). The Will was proved 16 July 1798 - value £100!!!! Dennis

Hi listers Rita said she could not display whole page when viewing BILLS BOOK I had same trouble but a clic on refresh worked fine. what a find Bill sounds like a realy nice person, hope theres more, great insite into village life at the time. regards Robert Millard interests STINCHCOMBE CHAPPELL Hawkesbury, Oldbury on hill, Didmarton MILLARD in Charfield, Hill, Wotton under Edge, Berkley

Thanks to all who responded to my query about a church or chapel at Inglestone Common, sounds as if my mother was right after all. Robert asked about my CHAPPELL history, I did post it before but here is again. My Grandmother was born Emily CHAPPELL, she was born at Long Newnton near Tetbury, her father was Albert CHAPPELL and her mother Kate MELLSOM (not sure about the spelling) On the 1881 census she appears at Hawkesbury, the family living with her Grand parents. (There was a sister called Edith Kate and a brother called Edward) The grand parents were Joseph CHAPPELL, christened at Hawkesbury on 1 December 1822 and who married Martha SIMS on 2 June 1844 at Hawkesbury. His parents were Thomas CHAPPELL and Mary ROLF who were married on 30 April 1820, at Hawkesbury I have found Thomas CHAPPELL who was christened on 9 October 1796 at Hawkesbury whose parents were Richard and Jane, but I do not know if this is the right Thomas CHAPPELL. I believe Martha SIMS's parents were Robert SIMS and Ann THOMAS. Robert also asked if my YOUNG family was connected to the THOMPSON family who ran the store in Hawkesbury, well unfortunately I do not know, my Grandfather Arthur YOUNG was born at Nettleton in Wiltshire in 1874, and I know no more about the family really, other than several of my aunts and uncles were born in Hawkesbury around 1902 to 1910 approx., my mother was born at Tresham in 1916 and sometime in the next few years her family moved to the Mill in Hill Mill Lane between Ozleworth and Wortley. My Grandmother Emily nee CHAPPELL, died in childbirth in 1919 and is buried in Tresham churchyard but without any headstone, etc. Hope that doesn't all sound too boring to everyone else ? I have been trying to read Bill's book on the web site, but I seem to be having trouble getting the pages to show up on the screen in full, has anyone else had a problem, or is it my equipment ? Regards Rita Hatcliffe

Listers may well wish to visit this site as there is much detail http://www.workhouses.org.uk/ Geoffro The Pond Dipper Http://www.HawkesburyFamilyHistory.co.uk

Hello Listers Now that I have finished looking afte the Gloucester list whilst Ed TILY has been on holiday in Scotland I will be able to offer the same leves of service as previously. My apologies to all those waiting for emails from me. Thanks are due again to Cousin Doug who has provided the brains to get part one of Bill THOMPSON's book up onto the webpages. Membership now stands at 70 so it is worthwhile posting and reposting your interests........perhaps you could post some of the names that appear in the wills that you hold. These may link into other families that are being researched. Mrs Pond Dipper has kindly agreed to copy out the Hawkesbury Poor Law index details....this will start on Friday and I will post them to the list as soon as possible after that. Yesterday we looked and attempted to read the Horton registers. Unfortunately due to their condition much information is unavailable. The Grave Robber (Robert MILLARD) and I now own 3 of the 4 Bigland volumes between us....we dont have parishes A - C -YET. Requests for look ups should be head Bigland Look Up in the subject line and incude the SURNAME, and parish..........only memorials before 1790 are listed. Send look up requests to me or Robert. Can those listers who will be attending the get together on September 30th please let me know off list so I will have a better of idea of numbers. So far a dozen or so non computer researchers have confirmed attendance. Ed TILY will be in attendance and his knwoledge of the Sodbury's will be of interest and use to all. For those of you off on summer hols......enjoy yourselves and think of us. Geoffro The Pond Dipper Http://www.HawkesburyFamilyHistory.co.uk