Hello,to Ted in Michigan, Am pleased to see you checking up on bits of our chart as yet 'undeveloped'--I think the 200+ fiche frames for COOK on Glouc IGI put me off a bit in the early days. The last three children I can find from marriage of John COOK and Anna RODWAY are Joseph,b1781;Deborah,b1784;and Susanna,b1786. So we have the options of looking for ano death date for Anna,ie later than the 1780 you quote, or a rather quick 2nd marriage to another Ann(a) Agree this needs resolving,and will keep an eye on it, john s

Hello Barbara, I can't see a connection at the moment but will file it with my strays, thank you. I don't think my Edward SHIPWAY is from Hawkesbury, but if anyone out there can supply me with any info about him I would be gratefull.(parents would be nice!) He was born abt. 1764 (Rodborough?) and married Elizabeth TAYLOR from Stroud, June 18 1789 - parents Daniel TAYLOR and Ann DICKS. I have found 3 children, John b. 24 Oct. 1793, married Eliza ALDRIDGE(my ggggrandparents who came to Australia). Esther b. 1796, who married Edward VINES. and Edward b. 1799, who married Sarah ROBERTS. Regards from Helga in Australia.

Hi Barbara, >just typed in the name WOOLNOUGH and up popped 1840-1853 George Woolnough - Holford Arms in Inchbrook.< Thanks, actually this means that George was innkeeper at the Holford Arms in Knockdown at that time, which is included in the I-K page beginning with Inchbrook.... Strangely enough, when I went to this page I recognised the incumbant at Inchbrook's Crown Inn William HORWOOD as an ancestor of an old girlfriend of mine from 20 years ago back in Sydney Australia!!!! Small world indeed!!! Cheers, Ken Murray

Hi Ken. I had a brief look at http://www.gloucestershirepubs.co.uk/Sunday.htm just typed in the name WOOLNOUGH and up popped 1840-1853 George Woolnough - Holford Arms in Inchbrook. Also Gorsley - Huntley - a private house. 1891 George Reeve (owner). Beerhouse. Free from brewery tie There is also The Trouble House Inn listed in Tetbury on this site. Its a very useful little site. Hope this helps. Barbara searching for SHIPPS ----- Original Message ----- From: <KMurrayOZ@aol.com> To: <ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 30 August 2000 15:39 Subject: [[Hawks]] WOOLNOUGH and WINBOW > Hi Listers, > > As I will shortly be unsubscribing for a time, I want to re-post my names and > interests. My WOOLNOUGH ancestors lived briefly at Hawkesbury circa > 1837-1855. Brothers George and Robert from Suffolk married local lasses > (HAREWELL cousins) in 1835/36 and both settled at Hawkesbury as innkeepers. > The inn (unknown) may have been owned by a WINBOW. Their sister Betsy joined > them in 1843 when she married a Thomas REEVE, a servant at the Folly. > > My main interest in the area is a bit further afield from Hawkesbury, but as > many of these families had some connection there I will include this. I am > researching the families who owned and/or operated Trouble House Inn, just > outside Tetbury in the parish of Cherington, Gloucestershire. If you > recognize anything here, please contact me immediately, as my e-mail address > will most likely be changing very soon. > > Owners and Occupants of Trouble House Inn, Cherington (outside Tetbury) > 1755 John REEVE owner (carpenter of Tetbury, born 1700) > 1757 John BIRD leaseholder and occupant > 1768 Anna TAYLOR and Mary (Martha?) VAUGHAN owners > 1768 Richard REEVE leaseholder and occupant > 1799 Zebulon HAREWELL (my g-g-g-g-grandfather) leaseholder and occupant > 1804 Zebulon HAREWELL owner and occupant > 1830 Zebulon HAREWELL( junior) owner and occupant > 1844 John Leversage GEORGE owner > 1843-1850- ???? unknown occupants *** > 1850 Thomas WHITE occupant > 1889 Thomas WHITE junior occupant > 1891 William WARN leaseholder > 1906 William SESSIONS occupant > 1923-27 William John WARN occupant > 1931 Frank Albert WILLS owner, Agnes WILLS (daughter) licensee > 1936 Wadworth Brewery owners > 1936/37? Thomas and Elizabeth TREMLIN occupants > 1952/56? Clarence BRACEY occupant > 1958 William "Laddie" PEARE occupant > 1974 David ROBINS occupant > > I am especially keen to hear from anyone with access to Pigot's 1844 > directory, as to who was living at Trouble House at this time. > > Family > HAREWELL at Cherington, Long Newnton, Charlton near Malmesbury and Hankerton, > Wilts.1600s-1700s., and Ashley Wilts 1800s. Including known variants HORRELL, > HOARWELL, HORRIL, HARWELL etc. > WOOLNOUGH at Hawkesbury, Knockdown and Oldbury on the Hill 1835-1875. > also: AVERY, BRACE, CHAPEL, FOWLES, FRY, MARCHANT, SESSIONS, SPENCER, SPIRE, > SUMMERS. > > Also interested in these pubs: the long defunct Jackament's Inn and its > "Phantom Hound" which allegedly killed one of my rels!!; Tunnel House at > Coates, Thames Head also at Coates. Any pubs at Hawkesbury and H. Upton. > Enjoyed an all-too-brief visit to Hawkesbury last October, sorry I missed > Mark Steeds at the Beaufort. My rels voted to have lunch at the Fox instead. > > Cheers!! > Ken Murray still stuck in the tiny hamlet of New York City > research to date posted at > http://www.labscan.com/trouble/ > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > When replying to messages please make sure to remove ALL the "Re: and Hawks" bits in the subject line as otherwise these will be repeated. > Penalty for non-compliance is a Pond Dipping. > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ >

Hi Listers, As I will shortly be unsubscribing for a time, I want to re-post my names and interests. My WOOLNOUGH ancestors lived briefly at Hawkesbury circa 1837-1855. Brothers George and Robert from Suffolk married local lasses (HAREWELL cousins) in 1835/36 and both settled at Hawkesbury as innkeepers. The inn (unknown) may have been owned by a WINBOW. Their sister Betsy joined them in 1843 when she married a Thomas REEVE, a servant at the Folly. My main interest in the area is a bit further afield from Hawkesbury, but as many of these families had some connection there I will include this. I am researching the families who owned and/or operated Trouble House Inn, just outside Tetbury in the parish of Cherington, Gloucestershire. If you recognize anything here, please contact me immediately, as my e-mail address will most likely be changing very soon. Owners and Occupants of Trouble House Inn, Cherington (outside Tetbury) 1755 John REEVE owner (carpenter of Tetbury, born 1700) 1757 John BIRD leaseholder and occupant 1768 Anna TAYLOR and Mary (Martha?) VAUGHAN owners 1768 Richard REEVE leaseholder and occupant 1799 Zebulon HAREWELL (my g-g-g-g-grandfather) leaseholder and occupant 1804 Zebulon HAREWELL owner and occupant 1830 Zebulon HAREWELL( junior) owner and occupant 1844 John Leversage GEORGE owner 1843-1850- ???? unknown occupants *** 1850 Thomas WHITE occupant 1889 Thomas WHITE junior occupant 1891 William WARN leaseholder 1906 William SESSIONS occupant 1923-27 William John WARN occupant 1931 Frank Albert WILLS owner, Agnes WILLS (daughter) licensee 1936 Wadworth Brewery owners 1936/37? Thomas and Elizabeth TREMLIN occupants 1952/56? Clarence BRACEY occupant 1958 William "Laddie" PEARE occupant 1974 David ROBINS occupant I am especially keen to hear from anyone with access to Pigot's 1844 directory, as to who was living at Trouble House at this time. Family HAREWELL at Cherington, Long Newnton, Charlton near Malmesbury and Hankerton, Wilts.1600s-1700s., and Ashley Wilts 1800s. Including known variants HORRELL, HOARWELL, HORRIL, HARWELL etc. WOOLNOUGH at Hawkesbury, Knockdown and Oldbury on the Hill 1835-1875. also: AVERY, BRACE, CHAPEL, FOWLES, FRY, MARCHANT, SESSIONS, SPENCER, SPIRE, SUMMERS. Also interested in these pubs: the long defunct Jackament's Inn and its "Phantom Hound" which allegedly killed one of my rels!!; Tunnel House at Coates, Thames Head also at Coates. Any pubs at Hawkesbury and H. Upton. Enjoyed an all-too-brief visit to Hawkesbury last October, sorry I missed Mark Steeds at the Beaufort. My rels voted to have lunch at the Fox instead. Cheers!! Ken Murray still stuck in the tiny hamlet of New York City research to date posted at http://www.labscan.com/trouble/

The rest of Bill's Book is now available via the Hawkesbury Index Page. Doug Thompson

Ploughed Out was built by one of the Stinchcombe family - my Dad knew the family when we first moved back to the area in the 60's, but I can't remember which one off hand - you can ask him on 30th Sept as he is planning to come to the "do". The story is that like Ted THOMPSON, the Ministry of Ag insisted he plough a certain acreage. Not all of it was suitable in his eyes, and he refused. If you refused, you were compulsory-purchased by the government on behalf of the War effort, and he built/ moved to the cottage on Cold Change and named it "Ploughed Out" as a mark of the disgust he felt at his treatment. Those of you who saw the excellent Channel 4 series "Green and Pleasant Land" will recall a similar story from the Worcester area, and recall the distress and upheaval such incidents aroused

Thanks to all those who helped me identify this location. As chance would have it, we drove down the hill on Saturday evening, but did not look out for the names of the houses and cottages. Bob Lawrence

I have some information on the Fry family, Isaac who was landlord of the Swan Inn Tytherington and his son James who is listed cordwainer on the Census return of 1851.Come back to me if this is what you are looking for. Rosemary King.

Hi listers Can anyone tell me anything about the severed hand that was buried at St Marys at the insistance of the persons mother she had to get permission from the vicar, as I think I have meet this persons grandson today regards Robert Millard

Hi Geoff I was there at the time, and it was the man with the monkeys of Oxlease Cottage who told us the center of Inglestone common was "ploughed out" during the last war as part of the land war effort. Eddie BUTLER's parents lived at the cottage on coldchange hill he was born there in about 1933 since then Danial STINCHCOMB lived there who was the son of Frank (Francis)STINCHCOMB and ??? ALWAY of Court Farm Hawkesbury. regards Robert The Grave Robber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoff Brightman" <geoff_brightman6@thefreeinternet.co.uk> To: <ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 12:46 PM Subject: [[Hawks]] Ploughed Out at Cold Change > Anonymous Anne (with an E) has touched on something with this reference. > > All we need do now is wait for Cousin Marilyn HULBERT to return and she will > tell us all she knows about "Ploughed Out". I have discussed this with her > before but unfortunately I cannot remember all the details, > > Geoffro > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > Have your Hawkesbury research needs added to the Hawkesbury Family History pages. Send an email to ThePondDipper@HawkesburyFamilyHistory.co.uk > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ > >

Daniel's brother Kit (Kitchener) died this year, he lived in the house to the left of the Beaufort. He was in his late 80's I think and before he retired was the Council rat catcher - think they call them Pest Control Officers now. Anne

Anonymous Anne (with an E) has touched on something with this reference. All we need do now is wait for Cousin Marilyn HULBERT to return and she will tell us all she knows about "Ploughed Out". I have discussed this with her before but unfortunately I cannot remember all the details, Geoffro

>>>Also, seeing your mention of Cold Change Hill, can you tell me where it is? Joseph COOPER was living there when he made his will in 1833. Hi Bob, Sorry I thought I had got round to doing this. If you turn left down the hill opposite the monumnet then Cold Change Hill is what you are going down. Cold Change is on the left.....There is a cottage which you can just about see through the trees just before the right turn to Hillesley. Interestingly there would appear to be a DAVIS connection as well but I need to speak to Eddie about that some more yet. Robert The Grave Robber has knowledge of its occupancy during the past 100 years or so which in itself is interesting and may yet lead to more information. Josephs will is interesting..........and it is perhaps becoming more clear now. He writes : - "Whereas I have lately contracted with my neice Hannah DAVIS of Oxleaze in the said parish of Hawkesbury Spinster to sell to her my freehold cottage garden and small orchard thereto adjoining situate at Inglestone Common in the said parish and in the occupation of Charles STINCHCOMBE for the sum of £100. " I wonder if this is what is now called Oxleaze Cottage (next to Oxleaze Farm) and currently occupied by Seb a very nice man with monkeys ? Having read his will again I think that rather than give Cold Change away he gives instructions for it to be sold. I wonder who bought it ? Can we find this out ? Geoffro

The Get Together ( think of a btter name if you can ) will commence at 2pm on Saturday September 30th 2000 at The Beaufort Arms, High Street, Hawkesbury Upton. I have arranged for St. Mary's Church to be open between 3.30pm and 4.30pm for those attending who have never had the opportunity to go inside. As well as members of this list and Hawkesbury researchers who are not online Ed TILY who runs the Gloucestershire List and Liz JACK the internet representative of Gloucestershire Family History Society will also, hopefully, be in attendance. Bring you charts and your photographs and your talking heads and listening ears. We will be taking at least one laptop and probably a fiche reader and fiche. We will have all 4 volumes of Biglands with us as well. The latest count of those known to be attending is 40. However this does not include interested villagers and members of Hawkesbury Local History Society. The potential for us all to come away with much new information is tremendous. Last orders for food at the Beaufort is 2.30pm although food is served in the evening as well (from 7pm I think). There will be plenty of opportunities for walks round the village etc with "local experts" etc on hand if needed.....let me know if there is anything in particular you would like to see and I will see what can be arranged. If anybody is coming via Gloucester and would be willing and able to bring an 83 year old couple from there to The Get Together could they let me knwo off list please. Geoffro The Pond Dipper Http://www.hawkesburyfamilyhistory.co.uk

Geoffro Your message prompted a number of thoughts. First, could you post details of the September get-together, so that I can try to fit it in my oh-so-busy schedule. Also, seeing your mention of Cold Change Hill, can you tell me where it is? Joseph COOPER was living there when he made his will in 1833. On the subject of the COOPER wills, have you transcribed any more of the wills that we got on the visit to Gloucester? I may be able to do one or two in the next couple of weeks, and don't want to duplicate your effort. I will post them on the mailing list when they are done. Bob Lawrence ----- Original Message ----- From: Geoff Brightman <geoff_brightman6@thefreeinternet.co.uk> To: <ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 8:10 PM Subject: [[Hawks]] Stuff > What an exhausting day at the 115th Hawkesbury Show. > > Robert the Grave Robber will be posting details of inquiries received today > later on. > > Had chance to have a drink with Eddie and Juen BUTLER before we came home. > They will be joining us at the get together and Eddie has promised to bring > his photographs and documents. > > Eddie tells us that the Methodist Chapel on Inglestone Common used to be > owned by the BUTLERs as did Cold Change Hill. > > More later > > Geoffro > The Pond Dipper > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > Please remember when you post messages that SURNAMES should be in CAPITALS. Penalty for non-compliance is a Pond Dipping. > > ============================== > Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. > > >

Cold Change Hill is the one which leads from the Monument to Inglestone Common. Half way down on the right is a cottage known as "Ploughed Out" this got its name I believe from a period during the second world war when all of the land was ploughed out for the war effort. I expect some of the older locals will know the full story. There is also an amusing anecdote about Cold Change being snowed in and a haulier tying his horses to a hitching post. When the snow melted they were found hanging from the top of the Monument!! Best wishes, Anne

What an exhausting day at the 115th Hawkesbury Show. Robert the Grave Robber will be posting details of inquiries received today later on. Had chance to have a drink with Eddie and Juen BUTLER before we came home. They will be joining us at the get together and Eddie has promised to bring his photographs and documents. Eddie tells us that the Methodist Chapel on Inglestone Common used to be owned by the BUTLERs as did Cold Change Hill. More later Geoffro The Pond Dipper

Ronda WICKS who is currently in the UK - in Kent today - has an intererst in the FRY family. She will read your message on her return to Canada. Geoffro The Pond Dipper

Hi List, Dumb question time again. Most of my family are from Kingswood, which I have a 1787 map showing as being a detached part of Wiltshire. It shows Hawkesbury as being in Gloucestershire. But I had a feeling, somewhere, that it may have been in Wiltshire at some stage. And I take it that I am correct in saying Kingswood is today in Gloucestershire. Help!!!!! Linda An Australian who is not yet related to the THOMPSON - although I have just had a modern researcher in the Vaiseys contact me who has the surname THOMPSON.