Hello Doug, It's possible. My father came from Bristol, however, I'm not sure if its in Hawkesbury or not. Vivian Thompson --- Doug Thompson <doug@thom.screaming.net> wrote: > on 16/10/2000 3:52 am, Vivian Thompson at > mountainwaterfalls@yahoo.com > wrote: > > > I would like any informtion on the Stinchcomb > Family > > for my family tree. So far, I have gotten to > Thomas > > and Joan (Bowman)Stinchcomb. > > > > Vivian Thompson > > Vivian > > Is your Thompson name connected with Hawkesbury? > There's a lot of us about! > > Doug Thompson > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > Email the Pond Dipper at > ThePondDipper@HawkesburyFamilyHistory.co.uk > > ============================== > Search more than 150 million free record at RootsWeb > http://search.rootsweb.com/ > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/

Hi Robert My connection with the STINCHCOMBEs is a bit of a sideline. It is via Susanna COOK (dau of John COOK and Anna RODWAY (?)) who married Henry STINCHCOMBE in 1804. Susanna is the sister (or half sister) of my great great great grandmother Deborah Cook. I know very little about the BEARDs in my family. My connection is via a Martha BEARD - I don't have her dates to hand (my great great grandmother). She was born in Horton in around 1839, and married Ambrose Giles SPRACKMAN. If you have any information I would be most grateful. regards Sarah >Hello Sarah >I note you are interested in STINCHCOMBE and BEARD I was curious about any >connection to the STINCHCOMBE family you may have and also the BEARD family >of Horton my GG grandfather was Giles BEARD of Horton. >regards >Robert Millard > ----- Original Message ----- >From: "sarah mitchell" <r_of_gloucester@hotmail.com> >To: <ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 9:47 AM >Subject: [[Hawks]] Re: [[Hawks]] WHITTERN > > >Yes, these are WHITTERNS, this must have been a transcription error. When >I >checked the census on microfilm in Bristol some years ago, William and >Elizabeth's surname was spelled correctly. I'm pretty sure that William is >one of the children of Thomas WHITTERN and Deborah COOK. On the 1861 >Census >he is living at 'Waterloo' Hawkesbury with a niece Louisa CARTER who is the >child of Elizabeth WHITTERN who is definitely the child of Thomas and >Deborah. William and Elizabeth had 7 children that I know of: Sophia, >Blanch, Richard, Henrietta, Edwin, Walter and Thomas H. > >My Hawkesbury research interests, apart from the WHITTERNS include COOK, >RODWAY, RICHENS (RICHINGS/RICHINS), STINCHCOMBE (as a side line) and >possibly BEARD. Also SPRACKMAN from Horton. > >Sarah Mitchell > > > >From: "Geoff Brightman" <geoff_brightman6@thefreeinternet.co.uk> > >Reply-To: "Geoff Brightman" <geoff_brightman6@thefreeinternet.co.uk> > >To: ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: [[Hawks]] WHITTERN > >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 00:33:46 +0100 > > > >I wonder if these are WHITTERNs !!!!! > > > >Dwelling: Hawkesbury Common > > Census Place: Hawkesbury, Gloucester, England > > Source: FHL Film 1341606 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2511 Folio 29 > >Page > >12 > > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > >William WHITREN M 66 M Hawkesbury, Gloucester, England > > Rel: Head > > Occ: Thatcher > >Elizabeth WHITREN M 63 F Upton On Severn, Worcester, England > > Rel: Wife > > > > > >==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > >Email the Pond Dipper at ThePondDipper@HawkesburyFamilyHistory.co.uk > > > >============================== > >Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > >http://www.ancestry.com/search > >Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > > >==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== >Have your Hawkesbury research needs added to the Hawkesbury Family History >pages. Send an email to ThePondDipper@HawkesburyFamilyHistory.co.uk > >============================== >Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate >your heritage! >http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > > > > >==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== >When replying to messages please make sure to remove ALL the "Re: and >Hawks" bits in the subject line as otherwise these will be repeated. >Penalty for non-compliance is a Pond Dipping. > >============================== >Search more than 150 million free record at RootsWeb >http://search.rootsweb.com/ > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

Hi Vivian Could you be a bit more specific whith your enquiry re the STINCHCOMBs with dates and birth place please I can see no birth at Hawkesbury for a Birtha STINCHCOMB or a Marriage to Joan BOWMAN or Elizabeth Rowland COPESTAKE but the fact the "E" is missing from the surname would suggest Hawkesbury origins. regards Robert Millard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vivian Thompson" <mountainwaterfalls@yahoo.com> To: <ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 3:52 AM Subject: [[Hawks]] Stinchcomb Family > I would like any informtion on the Stinchcomb Family > for my family tree. So far, I have gotten to Thomas > and Joan (Bowman)Stinchcomb. > > If any one is related to William and Elisabeth > (Rowland Copestake) Stinchcomb I would like to hear > about them as they are my great-grandparents. Their > daughter Bertha was my grandmother. > > Memories of them would be nice to pass on to my > children and grandchildren. > > Thank you. > > Vivian Thompson > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. > http://im.yahoo.com/ > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > When replying to messages please make sure to remove ALL the "Re: and Hawks" bits in the subject line as otherwise these will be repeated. > Penalty for non-compliance is a Pond Dipping. > > ============================== > The only real-time collaboration tool that allows you and other family > members to create a FREE, password-protected family tree. > http://www.ancestry.com/oft/login.asp > >

I would like any informtion on the Stinchcomb Family for my family tree. So far, I have gotten to Thomas and Joan (Bowman)Stinchcomb. If any one is related to William and Elisabeth (Rowland Copestake) Stinchcomb I would like to hear about them as they are my great-grandparents. Their daughter Bertha was my grandmother. Memories of them would be nice to pass on to my children and grandchildren. Thank you. Vivian Thompson __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/

Can someone please tell me where William WILLIAMS, farmer of Dunkirk lived I have a record in the 1861 Census as follows; Emily E SURMAN, age 16, visitor, born Bangalore India, at the home of William WILLIAMS, farmer in Dunkirk I know where Dunkirk is, but I would like to be able to identify the farm I would appreciate any help John S Sermon -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ John Sermon NDD FCSD FRSA chartered designer 24 Monks Walk, Bridge Street, EVESHAM, Worcestershire WR11 4SL tel; 01386 49967 E-mail design@johnsermon.demon.co.uk www.johnsermon.demon.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------

There were several farms at Dunkirk (two in recent years) one called Pike Farm and the other I think called Dunkirk Farm. There was also a farm at Petty France which is only a few hundred yards away. Maybe someone else on the list can help you. Anne

Can someone please tell me where William WILLIAMS, farmer of Dunkirk lived I have a record in the 1861 Census as follows; Emily E SURMAN, age 16, visitor, born Bangalore India, at the home of William WILLIAMS, farmer in Dunkirk I know where Dunkirk is, but I would like to be able to identify the farm I would appreciate any help John S Sermon -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ John Sermon NDD FCSD FRSA chartered designer 24 Monks Walk, Bridge Street, EVESHAM, Worcestershire WR11 4SL tel; 01386 49967 E-mail design@johnsermon.demon.co.uk www.johnsermon.demon.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------

Hi Peter I have come across some ELLIOTS I believe they moved from Oldbury-on-Hill to Hawkesbury about 1730 ish I do know they are connected to Swangrove house, I think they moved in when the STINCHCOMES left. If you dont know its location its just off the A46 opposite Dunkirk farm towards Badminton set in woodland it is owned by the Duke of Beaufort now I think, and therefore the ELLIOTS will be mentioned in the Badminton estate papers held at the Glouscester records office. There is one ELLIOT alive in Hawkesbury Vera used to be the post lady I think her Husband was Fredrick b. abt 1910 she lives opposite my mother and I was hoping to see her tomorrow as it happens. regards Robert Millard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoff Brightman" <geoff_brightman6@thefreeinternet.co.uk> To: <ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2000 9:27 PM Subject: [[Hawks]] forwarded > Hello Geoff, > Now that I am a bit more sorted, may I introduce myself as Peter Benger from > Hampshire. > > My interest is in the ELLIOT(T) family whom I thought came from Hawkesbury, > but now seem to have been centred around Hillesley. On that basis, have I > joined the correct list? > > Henry ELLIOT seems to have been born at Hillesley in about 1825. The family > later moved to Kent. > Any ELLIOT information would be welcomed. > > Regards > Peter Benger > > > mailto:heraldman@btinternet.com > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > When replying to messages please make sure to remove ALL the "Re: and Hawks" bits in the subject line as otherwise these will be repeated. > Penalty for non-compliance is a Pond Dipping. > > ============================== > Search more than 150 million free record at RootsWeb > http://search.rootsweb.com/ > >

I note that the online IGI has a number of variants for spelling ELLIOTT - ELIOTS - ELIOTT - ELLIOTS - ELLIOTTS. I knwo this becasue of the tremendous efforts of list members in downloading gedcoms fro the IGI site this weekend. C036121 is now available as an excel file from me off list. Work is now underway on C036122. Hillesley Street baptist is also complete. All 3 will be available separately or as a joint christening/birth file. Work is also underway on the marriage regsiters and these will also be avaiable as separate or complete files. It will probably be easier for me to set up a link direct from the weg pages. Watch this spave Geoffro

Hi Peter Welcome to our little family !!!!!!!!!! Before 1851 Hillesley was in the parish of Hawkesbury so you are certainly in the correct place. I am sure someone will respond with info for you soon Geoffro

Hello Geoff, Now that I am a bit more sorted, may I introduce myself as Peter Benger from Hampshire. My interest is in the ELLIOT(T) family whom I thought came from Hawkesbury, but now seem to have been centred around Hillesley. On that basis, have I joined the correct list? Henry ELLIOT seems to have been born at Hillesley in about 1825. The family later moved to Kent. Any ELLIOT information would be welcomed. Regards Peter Benger mailto:heraldman@btinternet.com

Hi everyone I recently had an enquiry from someone descended from ILES in Sherston Magna. The connection seems to go back to a James ILES, baptised 25 Dec 1757 in Sherston, son of William ILES and Ruth WALLIS who married in Sherston 4 May 1755. Does anyone know if these ILES might connect back to the Hawkesbury ILES, please? Thanks Pauline

To Sarah Mitchell Could you please foward info,if any,on the Louisa CARTER you mentioned in one of your e mail,s.Louisa is unknown to me at this time,and I would like to place her in the CARTER tree. Thanks in advance Tony Downend Bristol UK

Hi Carole Bob LAWRENCE is currently offline. He hopes to be back soon after BT reconnect his phone line after the tree people broke it. He will be most interested in your TOGHILL reference. I believe I slept in the old TOGHILL farmhouse a couple of weeks ago. Geoffro

Wonderful - 4 replies already to my WATTS plea. Taken in turn - Geoffro - really? Barbara - Thanks - haven't come across an Edward for that date yet. Ronda - It seems unlikely that Thomas Fry WICKS would have been with George WATTS in 1893. Unfortunately, by 1893, Thomas's son George had deserted his wife, Sarah GWINNELL leaving her with ?4 young children. In 1893, Sarah was an indoor pauper in the Cardiff Union Workhouse and their children had been dispersed to family. Sarah died there Nov 1895. I've been told that the 3 youngest, ?Rosina b. abt 1880, Charles and Edith (both born after 1881) went to stay with Auntie Annie (SPERRY) and Edith is known to have been in Cheltenham in the 1960s (? married to Russell HOBBS - they had an advertising poster shop and this ties up with John SPERRY's occupation of Ticket writer in Bedminster in 1881). Their eldest son, Henry, born 5 Dec 1878 (my grandfather) found work on the Glamorganshire canal and he became a lock keeper on several of the lock gates in Cardiff. If anyone has access to Directories of Cheltenham I would love to have any references to SPERRY or HOBBS Albert Thomas WATTS, George's brother, lived in Llandaff, married to Jane (surname n/k) - no children. He died age 97, buried 31 March 1948 and sang in the choir of Llandaff cathedral for over 60 years. A press cutting shows that he was still singing at 92! The cutting also says that "he first came to Llandaff as a boy of 15 with Archdeacon BLOSSE and continued annually to visit the city until the Archdeacon became Dean in 1877," Anyone know anything about the Archdeacon and his travels? Edward - George WATTS the thrashing machine driver, parents Nathaniel WATTS (died March qtr 1881 age 75) and Ann nee FRENCH, Nathaniel's 2nd wife - mentioned in my first message. All I have is George, b. March qtr 1863 Cheltenham (? GRO 6a 394). Siblings = Anne Mary Toghill, (1860 -1861, Annie Flora (1864) Frederick William (1866), Ernest Clarence (1868), Arthur Edward (1870), Amy Jane (1873), Herbert Fitzroy (1875), & Sarah Mercedes (1878). Again, I have not verified these. Hope this helps somebody. Carole.

Hi, Since the Watts name has appeared I thought that I would mention that my wife's great-great aunt Emily GUNNING married George WATTS according to family records, he was born in 1863. Since the Gunnings were living in Hawkesbury at the time of her marriage, I thought it likely that George was living there too. I have been wondering if he is the 19 year old Thrashing Machine Driver, son of Ann Watts, Quarry Owner, a widow with a large family, living at Starvall, Hawkesbury, in the 1881 census. Is anyone familiar with this family? - Ed Edward Coates Sinker Church Lea Bosbury, Herefordshire HR8 1PX UK

Fantastic news from Marilyn. There are 2302 christenings on C036121 one of the christening batch numbers for Hawkesbury. I havent counted them on C036132 yet. This new develpment enables us to create our own index for cross checking with original fiches so that we can amend or correct the details. All listers have the opportunity to be involved in a project of this sort and to benefit from the completed project. My preferred method would be for us to input the information into Excel so that we can later add other information from other sources such as marriages, burials, censuses etc. We could build our own database of Hawkesbury residents for listers and others to use and share. Given that we have 70 list members then we could each do a block of 30 entering the details as on the IGI and adding in the parents details as given. Obviously some listers may want or be able to do more. We may need to move quickly on this. What are your thoughts and comments ??????? Listers wanting to be involved please contact me off list immediately. Geoffro The Pond Dipper Http://www.HawkesburyFamilyHistory.co.uk

Hi Tony Thanks for that. Thomas Whittern is my gr, gr, gr grandfather, my gr,gr grandfather being his youngest son John. Sarah >Hello to Sarah Mitchell >Have a marriage cert on William CARTER (Of full age) to Elizabeth Whittern >(Of full age) marriage date 25th Sept 1837 >Father of William CARTER is James CARTER (Labourer) >Father of Elizabeth Whittern is Thomas Whittern (Clerk of the Parish) >Witness to marriage = William Whittern and E.DENULT or WINULT. > >William & Elizabeth are my wife,s gr,gr,grandparents. > >Tony Caple >Downend Bristol UK > > >==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== >Email the Pond Dipper at ThePondDipper@HawkesburyFamilyHistory.co.uk > >============================== >Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! >http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

Hi Geoffro Louisa CARTER was 11 when she was living with William and ELizabeth WHITTERN in 1861. She was baptised on 4 August 1850 in Hawkesbury and had 6 siblings. That's all I know, hope it helps! Sarah >Hi Sarah, > >Could you give us more details of the Louisa CARTER you mention please ? > >Thank you > >Geoffro > > >==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== >Please remember when you post messages that SURNAMES should be in CAPITALS. >Penalty for non-compliance is a Pond Dipping. > >============================== >The only real-time collaboration tool that allows you and other family >members to create a FREE, password-protected family tree. >http://www.ancestry.com/oft/login.asp > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

I know this is not specific - but I fortuitously tried the IGI Search Engine again at lunch time today - and they have revamped it - it seems a lot more usable now and is definitely a lot faster. I also found I could load in a batch number without names and just get a bunch of data down - although I think the 200 name limit applies, for small batches like Hillesley St Baptist chapel this is ideal! Marilyn