James - you may be interested to know that "Men & Armour 1608" lists a Francis Francombe, husbandman aged about 40 and his son John, aged about 20, at Old Sodbury. Could these two be respectively the grandfather and father of the Francis born in Hawkesbury circa 1637 mentioned below? Regards Roderick > Good afternoon > I have only just joined your list from the Birmingham list hoping for a break through with my Wife's FRANCOMB family. > I have gone from Birmingham To Chipping Sodbury to Yate and now find myself in Hawkesbury with > John FRANCOMB born 02 March 1703 marrying Mary WELSTEAD 02 April 1719 in Yate Gloucester. His Father is shown as being also John baptised 13 July 1677 Hawkesbury. His Father shown as Francis FRANCOMBE the only John I can find is John Yeoman FRANCOM born about 1676 married to Margaret WORKMAN about 1701 Hawkesbury. His Father Francis F FRANCOMBE mother Elizabeth EMERSON > Francis F. born about 1637 in Hawkesbury married 26 Feb 1662 in Hawkesbury and unfortunately this appears to be the end of the line. > Can anyone help? > Regards > James Brookes

Dennis, If you go to http://www.btinternet.com/~ra.millard/ then choose census records on left. You can find census records for Hawkesbury. This site also has other information about Hawkesbury. I have listed 1871 census records for COLLINS which includes the ones you mentioned. It seems that Edward COLLINS has re-married. I hope this gives you some more information. If you go to http://www.familysearch.org and search for Edward COLLINS and Ann PENLEY. You can find: Edward COLLINS Christening: 09 JUN 1805 Boxwell With Leighterton, Gloucester, England. Ann PENLEY Christening: 15 FEB 1814 Uley, Gloucester, England Father: JOHN PENLEY Mother: ALICE Perhaps these are yours. I have also listed 1851 census record for this family in Hawkesbury aswell. 23 Hawkesbury common Raymond H Collins head 32 Farmer of 70 acres Ozleworth Gloucestershire Emma M Collins wife 27 Berkley Gloucestershire Fredrick Collins son 9 Scholar Hawkesbury Gloucestershire Emma Powell servant single 22 Dairy maid Berkley Gloucestershire 102 Back street Edward P Collins head 35 Haulier Ozleworth Gloucestershire Sarah Ann Collins wife 44 Hawkesbury Gloucestershire Sarah J Collins daughter 10 Scholar Hawkesbury Gloucestershire John D Collins son 9 Scholar Hawkesbury Gloucestershire Penly T Collins son 6 Scholar Hawkesbury Gloucestershire Clement Collins son 5 Scholar Hawkesbury Gloucestershire Hannah D Collins daughter 3 Hawkesbury Gloucestershire Charles Collins son 1m Hawkesbury Gloucestershire 106 Back street Edmund Collins head 34 Farmer and corn dealer Ozleworth Gloucestershire Mary Collins wife 34 Mangotsfield Gloucestershire Mary Collins daughter 12 Scholar Hawkesbury Gloucestershire Sophia Hopkins servant single 13 Domestic servant Hawkesbury Gloucestershire 108 Back street Edward Collins head 65 retired farmer Boxwell Gloucestershire Rosena Collins wife 25 Hawkesbury Gloucestershire Lancelot Collins son 20 single assistant draper Hawkesbury Gloucestershire Emmeline Collins daughter 2 Hawkesbury Gloucestershire Ella A Collins daughter 4m Hawkesbury Gloucestershire Richard G Dix vistor 16 assistant brewer Hawkesbury Gloucestershire Naomi A Watts servant single 15 Domestic servant Hawkesbury Gloucestershire I also have copy of 1851 census for Gloucestershire which gives family as :- 77 (In Hawkesbury Parish) COLLINS Edward 40 Farmer 37 ac Boxwell Ann 39 Uley Edmund Hatherell Collins 14 Ozleworth Raymond Harris Collins 13 Ozleworth Richmond Davis 5 Hawkesbury Lancelot 1 week Hawkesbury NIBLETT Eliza Nurse 28 Monthly Nurse Hawkesbury WINBORO Sally Servant 11 Hawkesbury 79 RODWAY William 74 Farmer 250 ac Hawkesbury Ann 60 Hawkesbury Harriet 27 Hawkesbury John 24 Farmer Hawkesbury Susan 18 Hawkesbury Rowland 5 Hawkesbury COLLINS Ann Elizabeth Grand Daughter 8 Hawkesbury VELLINDER Harriet Servant 21 Cherrington Regards Steve Baker Researching ELLIS, SHOVELLER, BIGWOOD, KEMP, possibly CUZENS (Portsea, Hampshire) BAKER, PORTER, SMITH (Isle of Wight) PORTER, RAWLINSON, MORLEY, TAYLOR (Grantham, Lincolnshire) CHEDZEY, PERKS (Bridgwater / Bishops St Lydiard, Somerset) COATES, CHAPPELL, THOMPSON (Hawkesbury Upton, Gloucestershire) JORDAN, LEEDER (Brome, Bungay, Whickham Skeith, Suffolk) LANGFORD (Ringstead, Norfolk) ----- Original Message ----- From: "df.collins" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 08 July 2003 19:39 PM Subject: [HWK] the COLLINS family > After being a member since 2001 this COLLINS has started to try and find his way back to his ancestors and has got to Hawkesbury Upton and found a Richmond Davies COLLINS (1846-1885) who was I think one of four children, the others Edward Penley COLLINS (probably late of Back Street), Raymond Harris COLLINS (possibly a farmer on Hawkesbury Common) and maybe Launcelot COLLINS. Richmond Davies COLLINS was my greatgrandfather. Where I am stuck is that I know their father and mother to be Edward COLLINS and Ann PENLEY but cannot find any information about them. > Can anyone point me in the right direction to get more information - where should I look??? > > Many thanks > Dennis Collins Hempsted Gloucester. > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > When replying to messages please make sure to remove ALL the "Re: and Hawks" bits in the subject line as otherwise these will be repeated. > Penalty for non-compliance is a Pond Dipping. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

After being a member since 2001 this COLLINS has started to try and find his way back to his ancestors and has got to Hawkesbury Upton and found a Richmond Davies COLLINS (1846-1885) who was I think one of four children, the others Edward Penley COLLINS (probably late of Back Street), Raymond Harris COLLINS (possibly a farmer on Hawkesbury Common) and maybe Launcelot COLLINS. Richmond Davies COLLINS was my greatgrandfather. Where I am stuck is that I know their father and mother to be Edward COLLINS and Ann PENLEY but cannot find any information about them. Can anyone point me in the right direction to get more information - where should I look??? Many thanks Dennis Collins Hempsted Gloucester.

I find when I go to the site and click 'search the database' it says : 'FreeCEN Search is being deployed gradually, and is not yet available from your location Access will be available from this location in approximately 29 days' Is this just me or is it not available in UK yet. Steve Baker West Yorkshire Researching ELLIS, SHOVELLER, BIGWOOD, KEMP, possibly CUZENS (Portsea, Hampshire) BAKER, PORTER, SMITH (Isle of Wight) PORTER, RAWLINSON, MORLEY, TAYLOR (Grantham, Lincolnshire) CHEDZEY, PERKS (Bridgwater / Bishops St Lydiard, Somerset) COATES, CHAPPELL, THOMPSON (Hawkesbury Upton, Gloucestershire) JORDAN, LEEDER (Brome, Bungay, Whickham Skeith, Suffolk) LANGFORD (Ringstead, Norfolk) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Siebert" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 08 July 2003 5:45 AM Subject: [HWK] FreeCens > Evening All, > > > > You may have seen previous publicity concerning the FreeCEN project - the > Internet-based 'free-to-view' project that will enable researchers to view > details of UK Censuses between the years 1841 and 1891, especially the > ability to search by surname across census years and counties. I am sure > that you will agree that to have this facility is an important step. In > particular, it will considerably help researchers that cannot visit the > U.K., or even those in the U.K. who find difficulty in travelling. > > > > Great progress has been made already, and some pieces are on-line. Check out > http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ > > > > However, to put all those details on line does require a lot more effort. > Even if you can only afford a few hours per week, please seriously consider > offering your help as transcriber. Free software, procedures and all kinds > of help are available. > > > > As county co-ordinator for Bristol and Sth GLS I am always looking for > volunteers to help with this county's transcription. Please come forward and > volunteer your help on this important project, I look forward to hearing > from you. > > > > Regards, > > Bernadette > FreeCens Coordinator for Bristol & South GLS > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > 2002 Get Together........This years will be on Saturday the 5th of October and will include The Pond Dipper's 40th birthday celebrations > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

Evening All, You may have seen previous publicity concerning the FreeCEN project - the Internet-based 'free-to-view' project that will enable researchers to view details of UK Censuses between the years 1841 and 1891, especially the ability to search by surname across census years and counties. I am sure that you will agree that to have this facility is an important step. In particular, it will considerably help researchers that cannot visit the U.K., or even those in the U.K. who find difficulty in travelling. Great progress has been made already, and some pieces are on-line. Check out http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ However, to put all those details on line does require a lot more effort. Even if you can only afford a few hours per week, please seriously consider offering your help as transcriber. Free software, procedures and all kinds of help are available. As county co-ordinator for Bristol and Sth GLS I am always looking for volunteers to help with this county's transcription. Please come forward and volunteer your help on this important project, I look forward to hearing from you. Regards, Bernadette FreeCens Coordinator for Bristol & South GLS

Hi Paul Its just a possibility that Margaret married Thomas WORKMAN who lived at Norton nr Malmsbury Wilts close to Richard FRANCLYN we don't know of his first wife who he married prior to abt 1608 but interestingly his son was named Richard and daughter Margaret we know his wife was deceased by 1630 because of a marriage contract with a second wife, it would be worth checking burials about this time for a Margaret. Does Richard FRANKLYN or his Widow name Margaret's children in the Wills? regards Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gifford, Paul" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 1:24 PM Subject: RE: [HWK] Frankcom / Workman families > > Here's a little bit of information on the Workman family. The will of > Richard Francklyn, of Sherston Magna, Wilts., > yeoman, dated 4 May 1608, proved 14 July 1608 at the Archdeaconry > Court of Wiltshire, gives to his daughter Margaret and > her children; the will of Richard's widow Joan, dated 18 Sept. 1612, > proved 24 Feb. 1613/4 in the same court, gives to > daughter Margaret Workman. Margaret was baptized 17 August 1578 at > Ogbourne St. Andrew, Wilts. Richard Francklyn > (1541-1608) had freehold land at Rockley, a tenement in Marlborough, > and acquired land in Sherston by 1585. Does > anybody know who Margaret's husband might have been? > > Paul Gifford > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > Xmas Dinner 2002......will be served at The Beaufort Arms on Saturday December 7th ....further details to follow. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Good morning I have some direct FRANCOMB'S but from DOYNTON GLOS. I think they go back to the 1600's but ROB MILLARD thinks they originate from HAWKESBURY I have not linked them as yet but I'm sure he will be correct.Please keep me informed and best of luck.Jim -----Original Message----- From: j.brookes4 [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 07 July 2003 12:29 To: [email protected] Subject: [HWK] Francomb Family Good afternoon I have only just joined your list from the Birmingham list hoping for a break through with my Wife's FRANCOMB family. I have gone from Birmingham To Chipping Sodbury to Yate and now find myself in Hawkesbury with John FRANCOMB born 02 March 1703 marrying Mary WELSTEAD 02 April 1719 in Yate Gloucester. His Father is shown as being also John baptised 13 July 1677 Hawkesbury. His Father shown as Francis FRANCOMBE the only John I can find is John Yeoman FRANCOM born about 1676 married to Margaret WORKMAN about 1701 Hawkesbury. His Father Francis F FRANCOMBE mother Elizabeth EMERSON Francis F. born about 1637 in Hawkesbury married 26 Feb 1662 in Hawkesbury and unfortunately this appears to be the end of the line. Can anyone help? Regards James Brookes ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== When replying to messages please make sure to remove ALL the "Re: and Hawks" bits in the subject line as otherwise these will be repeated. Penalty for non-compliance is a Pond Dipping. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 This mail has originated outside your organization, either from an external partner or the Global Internet. Keep this in mind if you answer this message. This e-mail is intended only for the above addressee. It may contain privileged information. If you are not the addressee you must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it. If you have received it in error please delete it and immediately notify the sender. Security Notice: all e-mail, sent to or from this address, may be accessed by someone other than the recipient, for system management and security reasons. This access is controlled under Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000, Lawful Business Practises.

Here's a little bit of information on the Workman family. The will of Richard Francklyn, of Sherston Magna, Wilts., yeoman, dated 4 May 1608, proved 14 July 1608 at the Archdeaconry Court of Wiltshire, gives to his daughter Margaret and her children; the will of Richard's widow Joan, dated 18 Sept. 1612, proved 24 Feb. 1613/4 in the same court, gives to daughter Margaret Workman. Margaret was baptized 17 August 1578 at Ogbourne St. Andrew, Wilts. Richard Francklyn (1541-1608) had freehold land at Rockley, a tenement in Marlborough, and acquired land in Sherston by 1585. Does anybody know who Margaret's husband might have been? Paul Gifford

Hi James Pat has been researching the FRANCOMES and WORKMANS for many years and lives in New Zealand, I'm sure she will reply as soon as she reads your message for some reason she works all night and sleeps all day?. Meanwhile below is Richards Will transcribed by Pat, the GRO has a large number of FRANCOMBE wills in the online index, I would say the two 1620's wills for Old Sodbury are a must and the Doynton earlier Wills also, there is a Will for a Richard at Tortworth, wills are your best bet for going back also check the Canterbury index. If you look on my web pages you will see references to both families and Burden Court at Tresham where the WORKMANS lived. regards Robert Richard FRANCOME of Little Badminton, Glos. Will proved P.C.C. 17November 1655 Item: I give to my grandchilde Margarett Holborough foure .... in the space of six months after my decease. Item: I give unto my daughter Anne threescore pounds to be ... for heruse... soon as can ............. ....... ....... And in case my sonne Ffrancis Ffrancom shall ............. the debts and discharged the said threescore pounds to my daughter Anne then the ....shall be to his disposeing but in case he shall refuse to pay the said Anne my daughter threescore pounds that then the ..... shall be at her disposeing. Item: I give to my sonne ffrancis all my plough harnes. Item: I give to my sonne in law Henry Holborough all the goods that Ihave in my tenement at Horton. Item: I give to my daughter Anne my best and my worst beds with all the appurtanenances to it Item: I give my great .. brass kettle to my sonne ffrancis Item: I give to my daughter Anne my best after my second best kettle and my..... Item: I give my ........ equally to be divided between my sonne ffrancisand my daughter Anne Item: I give to my sonne ffrancis all the rest of my goods within and without .....ing debts and discharges ................. and ordaine my my sonnein law Henry Holborough to be my sole executor of this my last will andtestament. I appoint my brother John ffrancom and my neighbour Walter Holborough overseers of this my last will and testament to whom I give one shillinge apeecefor their paines. Richard Ffrancome. Sealed and delivered in the presence of us R.Burhan his marke John ffrancome Walter Holborow .......... This Will was proved at London the seaventeenth day of November in the yeare of our Lord god one thousand six hundred fifty and five before the judges for probate of wills and grantinge administrations lawfully authorized by theoath of Henry Holborough the sonne in law of the sayd deceased and soleexecutor named in this last will and testament of the sayd deceased to whom was committed administration of all and singular the goods chattles and debts of the sayd deceased and the sayd Henry Holborough being first sworn in andfound of ...... by ........ of a commission .... and ...... to administer thesame. N.B. It is probable that `Anne' should read `Jone/Joane' Jone Francomb married Henry Holbrow at Hawkesbury on the 10Feb.1650. `Jane' Frankom d. of Rich Frankom was baptised at Old Sodbury onthe 27 April 1628 On the 27 November 1667 Henry Holborough of Horton names in hiswill his loving wife Joane. ----- Original Message ----- From: "j.brookes4" <[email protected]> To: "Robert Millard" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 4:53 PM Subject: Re: [HWK] Frankcom / Workman families > Good afternoon Robert, > Thank you so much for your prompt reply. > First foolish question who is Pat ADAIR and do you have her e-mail address? > Second do you have any dates of birth for FRANCOMBE's listed. > Many thanks > James > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Millard" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 2:19 PM > Subject: [HWK] Frankcom / Workman families > > > > Hi James > > Pat ADAIR can tell you more but Francis FRANCOM was the son of Richard > FRANKCOM who died 1655 at Little Badminton Hawkesbury, he probably > previously lived at Old Sodbury and he did have a house at Horton, Richard > had a brother John who lived at Old Sodbury and had a son also named John 25 > Mar 1621. > > regards > > Robert > > Visit my web pages at http://www.btinternet.com/~ra.millard/index.htm > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------ > > > > > > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > > Please remember when you post messages that SURNAMES should be in > CAPITALS. Penalty for non-compliance is a Pond Dipping. > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > >

Hi James Pat ADAIR can tell you more but Francis FRANCOM was the son of Richard FRANKCOM who died 1655 at Little Badminton Hawkesbury, he probably previously lived at Old Sodbury and he did have a house at Horton, Richard had a brother John who lived at Old Sodbury and had a son also named John 25 Mar 1621. regards Robert Visit my web pages at http://www.btinternet.com/~ra.millard/index.htm --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Good afternoon I have only just joined your list from the Birmingham list hoping for a break through with my Wife's FRANCOMB family. I have gone from Birmingham To Chipping Sodbury to Yate and now find myself in Hawkesbury with John FRANCOMB born 02 March 1703 marrying Mary WELSTEAD 02 April 1719 in Yate Gloucester. His Father is shown as being also John baptised 13 July 1677 Hawkesbury. His Father shown as Francis FRANCOMBE the only John I can find is John Yeoman FRANCOM born about 1676 married to Margaret WORKMAN about 1701 Hawkesbury. His Father Francis F FRANCOMBE mother Elizabeth EMERSON Francis F. born about 1637 in Hawkesbury married 26 Feb 1662 in Hawkesbury and unfortunately this appears to be the end of the line. Can anyone help? Regards James Brookes

Just got back after 2 weeks away. Thank you for the info Carole. Barbara (Shipp) ----- Original Message ----- From: "anthony sharp" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 8:43 PM Subject: [HWK] SHIPP > > For the SHIPP sisters! > > Marriage at Stone, GLS June 15 1911 By Banns. Page 56 No 112 > Charles Edward NELMES 35 bachelor Engineer of St Mathews, Bootle Liverpool > son of Thomas Edward NELMES Builder & Kate SHIPP 30 Spinster of Stone, > daughter of John SHIPP Farmer. Witnesses John SHIPP; Thomas Edward NELMES & > Ann SHIPP. All signed. Thomas VEAL Vicar > > You probably have this already, but jsut in case.... > > Carole > > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > Xmas Dinner 2002......will be served at The Beaufort Arms on Saturday December 7th ....further details to follow. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I know it's not Hawkesbury but somebody may have an interest in this. I transcribed it at the PRO Kew but it was so long I couldn't record everything. Carole Piece details for E 134/13GEO1/East6 Tithes - Old Sodbury DEPOSITION 5TH APRIL 13TH YEAR OF REIGN OF GEO. 1727 At Home of Solomon DAVIES, Innholder, The Mitre, Chipping Sodbury Hester ?HATHAWAY of Old Sodbury, widow, 70yrs+ William PARKER, Chipping Sodbury, ?Felt maker, near 80 Mary POWELL, widow Mary PRICHARD, Chipping Sodbury, widow, about 80 - her late father Edward WHITE, died many years ago James STANMORE Old Sodbury, Yeoman, 78 Thomas WATKINS Yate carpenter, 70 James SMART Ann HIGNOLL, wife of Nathaniel HIGNOLL of Old Sodbury, Carpenter, about 60 Nathaniel BENNETT, Chipping Sodbury, Yeoman, near 80 Hannah MILLARE, wife of Benjamin MILLARD of Tormarton, Labourer, 40 years - her late father Thomas WOODWARD was born and bred on Old Sodbury - near 4 score years when he died about 4 years ago at Tormarton John WATTS Old Sodbury Yeoman 72 years and upwards. Sworn and examined, deposeth and saith; To the second and third interregnum saith that he know ?Mr NORTH ? died ?late 6 March of old Sodbury in the pleadings in this case mentioned before .the time he was Vicar there and says he... hath known the parish of Old Sodbury for about 60 years being born in the same and says upwards of 40 years since he rented land in old Sodbury aforesaid of the yearly value of 60 pounds and never heard of any quantity of milk sent forth by the owner or owners of any milk cattle pastured in the said parish as due to the Vicar.. rented land in Old Sodbury and paid Mr North the Vicar forty shillings a year tythe for one part thereof.. Thomas BLANCHETT of Chipping Sodbury, Yeoman, 62 Ursula BENNETT of ?Gittsholm, Wilts, widow, 73 - he father Richard ?BLUNKETT Hester HATH(A)WAY, widow William PARKER Mary POWELL, Westerleigh, widow 77+ Jeremiah NORTH, ?Durham, Glos, yeoman, 51 years Mary PRICHARD widow James STANMORE James SMART Old Sodbury, Yeoman 40+ Edward STEPHENS Esq. Little Sodbury 57+ John OVENS Westerleigh 70 lived with Mary RUSSELL widow Walter ?BURCOMB of Estbury, Gils 60 George WEBB Westerleigh, Yeoman near 80 Jacob ISAAC Chipping Sodbury Husbandman near 55 Nathaniel BENNETT Jane BIGGS Little Sodbury widow 3 score and 15 years Susannah RAGGETT Old Sodbury widow 66 Stephen SIMPSON Chipping Sodbury Gent 26 William WATTS old Sodbury Yeoman 69. Born in Old Sodbury, lived there with father and mother who rented a small ?estate of 19 or 20.? Off one ?Mr WOOD - till he was about 29 years when he left home and went to Cotherington and lived about 19 years & afterwards to Tormarton both neighbouring parishes... he again returned to Old Sodbury and hath heard that his father and mother generally kept 2 + 2 milking cows. He rented an estate at about £90 for 7 years - 20 cows or ? and half as many heifers and his method of payment was grazing. William PHILPOTT of Horton 72+ Joan BISHOP Old Sodbury, widow

Hello all, I came across this Oldbury stray whilst looking at Bigland: Coaley. Am posting details in case anyone can 'own' this family. __________________________ Monumental Inscription reads: Nathaniel UNDERWOOD died April 19, 1766, aged 71 Mary his Wife, Daughter of Nicholas ISGER, of Oldbury in this County, died Feb 24, 1754, aged 56 Left issue two Sons and one Daughter: William, Nathaniel, and Hannah Also three Children of Nathaniel and Mary UNDERWOOD Nicholas died Dec 10, 1733, aged 1 year Mary died May 9, 1744, aged 18 Also Nathaniel, the Son of Nathaniel and Anna Maria UNDERWOOD, died in his Infancy _____________________ I hope someone claim this family. Best wishes Sue Sissons Hemel Hempstead

Robert for your info. Brian ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Morgan To: Roger & Janet Maggs Cc: Gerry Hayward Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 12:51 PM Subject: Noah Maggs Just found this in my records and taken from Phillimore Vol VI Hawkesbury Noah Maggs, ( of Winterbourne) married Jane Pincott 19th March 1781. This is the last named son of Joseph Maggs of Winterbourne. I've copied this to Gerry Hayward who works on the Pincott family (and there is a link between them and my family tree!) Gerry is this girl related to Matthew Pincott and Mary Gulwell? If so please show me the link. Thanks. Best wishes Brian

Hi Patsy I think I was in touch with your cousin about 2 years ago the most likely candidate for Daniel is that of Daniel CHAPPELL born Hawkesbury 1745 son of Daniel and Esther nee TANNER married at Wotton Under Edge but the trail ends there I cannot find anymore details, Its most likely Daniels father came from Oldbury On the Hill, the CHAPPELL families in Glos can almost without exception be traced to Oldbury and one of the 4 trades they can be divided into for centuries in Oldbury were masons, many more CHAPPELL's much later went to mine coal in Wales but there seems to be no "native" CHAPPELL's on that side of the Severn. I wonder if the local poorlaw documents might turn up anything. regards Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Witchell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 9:21 AM Subject: [HWK] CHAPPELL > Hello everyone, > > My cousin is looking at.......... > > DANIEL CHAPPELL d. 1819 aged 74 yrs in CAERWENT > > The first child in the family was baptised in Caerwent was in 1780. > > EDWARD CHAPPELL my cousins gt.grandfather d. 1848 in TIDENHAM, CHEPSTOW. No > baptism found so far so Daniel and family might have lived elsewhere before > that...... > > DANIEL & Edward both masons. William also in line. > > > Robert's wonderful site has a DANIEL CHAPPELL s/o Daniel & Esther 19 Feb > 1745 > > Is anyone looking at this family by any chance? > > Would anyone know if there was a Caerwent/Hawkesbury connection. I know > that the Duke of Beaufort had place in Wentloog. > > Any help always appreciated. > > Regards Patsy Witchell > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > Dont forget Hawkesbury Show...Saturday the 31st of August 2002 is the date for the next one (date to be confirmed). This year is the 117th. What were your ancesters doing on the last Saturday in August in the 1880's ? > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hello everyone, My cousin is looking at.......... DANIEL CHAPPELL d. 1819 aged 74 yrs in CAERWENT The first child in the family was baptised in Caerwent was in 1780. EDWARD CHAPPELL my cousins gt.grandfather d. 1848 in TIDENHAM, CHEPSTOW. No baptism found so far so Daniel and family might have lived elsewhere before that...... DANIEL & Edward both masons. William also in line. Robert's wonderful site has a DANIEL CHAPPELL s/o Daniel & Esther 19 Feb 1745 Is anyone looking at this family by any chance? Would anyone know if there was a Caerwent/Hawkesbury connection. I know that the Duke of Beaufort had place in Wentloog. Any help always appreciated. Regards Patsy Witchell

on 22/6/03 8:49 pm, Andrew Babicz at [email protected] wrote: Andrew, I am looking at the WITCHELL/MARKLOVE connection at Wotton under Edge/ Charfield. CHARITY MARKLOVE ( who m. WILLIAM WITCHELL) Charity b. 1783 had a brother; GEORGE GOWEN MARKLOVE b.1786....... (parents Robert/Mary MARKLOVE) I feel that GOWEN might just be in the family somewhere but have not looked any furthur at the moment. Sorry for any confusion. Any thoughts? I have not found a marriage for ROBERT and MARY. I wondered if she might be a GOWEN? Patsy > > > I have the family below in my family tree! I'm confused, are you > researching this family? > > Andrew > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Roger Witchell [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 22 June 2003 10:00 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [HWK] 1861 census strays - GOWIN > > on 22/6/03 8:08 am, anthony sharp at [email protected] wrote: > > Many thanks Carole. I am hoping to connect the Gowens to the Markloves > as one > was baptised George Gowen Marklove. > > Patsy > >> Main St Gtreat Badminton >> GOWIN >> John hd M 47 Servant Hawkesbury (could be D. Servant) >> Louisa Wife 40 Bagpath >> Henry son 9 Hawkesbury >> Emily Daur 4 Badminton >> Rose daur 1 Badminton >> >> >> Carole >> >> >> ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== >> Don't forget to bookmark http://www.HawkesburyFamilyHistory.co.uk and > visit >> regulary. >> >> ============================== >> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go >> to: >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > Dont forget Hawkesbury Show...Saturday the 31st of August 2002 is the > date for the next one (date to be confirmed). This year is the 117th. > What were your ancesters doing on the last Saturday in August in the > 1880's ? > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to bookmark http://www.HawkesburyFamilyHistory.co.uk and visit > regulary. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I have the family below in my family tree! I'm confused, are you researching this family? Andrew -----Original Message----- From: Roger Witchell [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 22 June 2003 10:00 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [HWK] 1861 census strays - GOWIN on 22/6/03 8:08 am, anthony sharp at [email protected] wrote: Many thanks Carole. I am hoping to connect the Gowens to the Markloves as on was baptised George Gowen Marklove. Patsy > Main St Gtreat Badminton > GOWIN > John hd M 47 Servant Hawkesbury (could be D. Servant) > Louisa Wife 40 Bagpath > Henry son 9 Hawkesbury > Emily Daur 4 Badminton > Rose daur 1 Badminton > > > Carole > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to bookmark http://www.HawkesburyFamilyHistory.co.uk and visit > regulary. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== Dont forget Hawkesbury Show...Saturday the 31st of August 2002 is the date for the next one (date to be confirmed). This year is the 117th. What were your ancesters doing on the last Saturday in August in the 1880's ? ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

For the SHIPP sisters! Marriage at Stone, GLS June 15 1911 By Banns. Page 56 No 112 Charles Edward NELMES 35 bachelor Engineer of St Mathews, Bootle Liverpool son of Thomas Edward NELMES Builder & Kate SHIPP 30 Spinster of Stone, daughter of John SHIPP Farmer. Witnesses John SHIPP; Thomas Edward NELMES & Ann SHIPP. All signed. Thomas VEAL Vicar You probably have this already, but jsut in case.... Carole