Hi Patsy, Frederick FISHER'S father was Benjamin FISHER, born in Henbury in 1780. He in turn was born to another Benjamin about whom I know nothing. I reckon that he probably came from Gloucester but who knows? The IGI has a Benjamin born inn 1745 in Gt. Washbourne but I've not looked into that. Hope this helps, Maureen -----Original Message----- From: Roger Witchell [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 1:33 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [HWK] Allens etc. on 25/7/03 7:27 pm, Maureen Waters at [email protected] wrote: Hi Maureen, I have Hicks and Fisher in my Witchell ( husbands) line. Do not know if there is a connection but.... Charles Fisher m. Jane Witchell 25.Dec.1854 in Bristol St Andrews Clifton Unfortunately there are two sets of Charles/Jane Fisher on 1881... one a tailor another a wine merchant !!! Do you have the name of the father of Frederick Fisher by any chance? The Morse line also runs through another branch of the Witchells . I have Dangerfield in my own line who lived in Goodrich in the Ross area.... William Dangerfield senior came over from S. Glos. Unfortunately I have not researched these throughly so sadly I am not going to be of much use. If you possibly had time I would be very interested in any Dangerfield information that you might have on Rosetta and Joseph. They just might connect with our lot along the way. The William Dangerfield I am looking at was born Frampton on Severn 1815/16 and seems to have lived close to another family of Dangerfields just outside Monmouth who were b. Stroud and are found in Coaley later on in 1881 census. Kind regards, Patsy Witchell > Hi, > > Is anyone else researching these families? > > > James ALLEN m. Mary HICKS 1798 at Wotton-under Edge > | > James ALLEN bap 1799 Wotton-under Edge m. Hannah BOWYER > | > James ALLEN bap 1831 Nympsfield m. Rosetta DANGERFIELD c1830 of > Horsley, > d. of Joseph > | > William ALLEN born 1857 Horsley m. Ellen FISHER born 1857 Hallen > d. of Frederick and Mary Ann FISHER > nee MORSE > > > Maureen. > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > Hillesley Family History day will take place on Friday August 30th 2002 in > Hillesley. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== Don't forget to bookmark http://www.HawkesburyFamilyHistory.co.uk and visit regulary. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi Carole, I do already have this marriage in my database, but I have no other information on the family. Do you happen to know anything more about them? All I know is that Sarah was baptised on 25 Mar 1778 in Cam, daughter of Charles CORDY and Sarah MILLARD. Here is the family on my web site http://www.sheppardfamily.net/fh/cordy/ccordy/d3.htm#i279 . Thanks, -Adrian On Wednesday, July 23, 2003, at 11:50 PM, anthony sharp wrote: > Thanks Adrian > > Interesting Will. I can see that I'll have to put some more effort into > finding out about the Wickwar WATTS. > I noticed another WATTS/CORDEY marriage at Cam 6 Nov 1801 (William & > Sarah). Do you have this one? > > Cheers > Carole > > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > When replying to messages please make sure to remove ALL the "Re: and > Hawks" bits in the subject line as otherwise these will be repeated. > Penalty for non-compliance is a Pond Dipping. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I hope this is news. Don't tell me you knew it all before! Up till today my line for Anna JAMES, the mother of Mary Jane THOMPSON (who married Edward THOMPSON) stopped with her parents' names. I don't know why because an hour with the Hawkesbury Parish register has extended it a long way today. Her father, William JAMES is on the burial register 9 Jan 1842 aged 88 giving birth at 1754. He appears on the baptisms 29 Mar 1754 son of John and Mary. It then appears likely that his father was christened 25 Sep 1724, son of Daniel JAMES. John was buried 29 Jan 1788. Anna's mother went even better. William JAMES married Mary STIFF 28 Jan 1784. Mary was buried 2 Jan 1825 aged 83 giving a birthdate of 1742. I already had her on my files! She was baptised 2 Dec 1744, daughter of John STIFF and Anne (née MARSH). Anne is the great granddaughter of John MARSH, who is James THOMPSON's (Mary Jane's father) 4-greats grandfather completing another circle. If anyone wants any more details get in touch with me. (Gedcoms available) Cousin Doug Thompson

Thank you Carole I'm going to file the COMELY entry away until I find a home for it. Cheers Brian Brian Beeche Comley - Porthcawl, Glamorgan (South Wales - UK) FHS Member: Glam (#1433); Gwent (#1318); Wilts (#2186) ----- Original Message ----- From: "anthony sharp" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 6:04 PM Subject: [HWK] Marriages at Oldbury on the Hill

Hi Cousin Doug, I would love an up-to-date Gedcom.... I will delete all the other trees I have for you before I download it. Thanks, Gwen Lamie

Hi Sue I would also like a copy of Robert Chappell's will, as like many other I too am descended from him. Thank you very much for your kind offer. Regards Kerrie Alexander Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 5:48 AM Subject: [HWK] Robert CHAPPELL of Oldbury and others > Hello All, > > I've just spent a weekend transcribing the will of Robert CHAPPELL who died > in 1624. Am now totally cross eyed!!!!!!! > > I'm sure quite a few listers will already have got this Will, but there are > 22 different persons mentioned in various contexts so it could be of interest > to quite a number of non CHAPPELL researchers. Names of everyone mentioned are > as below. > > I will be more than happy to share my transcript. If anyone would like a > copy just drop me a line. > > All the best > > Sue Sissons > Hemel Hempstead > > **************************** > > Wife: Christian > > Brother: Nicholas CHAPPELL of Didmarton and his daughter Alice CHAPPELL > > Sons: Thomas (eldest) > John > William (youngest) > > Daughter: Joane CHAPPELL - presumably unmarried in 1624 > > Debtors: Those who owed Robert money:- > John IDDOLLS the younger of Oldbury -also named as Robert's brother in > law > John IDDOLLS the elder of Oldbury > Agnes & William IDDOLLS - Agnes described as "now wife of William" - > presumably she had been married before > Agnes IDDOLLS of Oldbury, widow - appears to be a second Agnes > Simon CODRINGTON Esquire of Didmarton > William FFORDE of Tresham and his brother Julian FFORDE of Tresham > Thomas RUSSELL of Didmarton > Robert RUSSELL of Oldbury > Richard COWEN of Oldbury > > Others: Christopher CHAPPELL from whom Robert bought land - no specific > relationship mentioned > John IORIES (? Surname not clear) > Widow **MES (name unclear) > > Overseers: Nicholas CHAPPELL of Didmarton and John IDDOLLS the younger of > Oldbury > > Executrix: Christian CHAPPELL > > Witnesses: William NOBLE, Clerke > John IDDOLLS the younger > John SHIPWAY of Didmarton > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > Hillesley Family History day will take place on Friday August 30th 2002 in Hillesley. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Transcribed from the Parish Register Carole OLDBURY ON THE HILL MARRIAGES John GODWIN of the parish of Yate in the county of Gloucester, Yeoman, and Mary OSBORNE of Didmarton (crossed out) Oldbury in the said County were married by Licence in the Church of Oldbury on the Hill the eighth day of July One thousand Eight Hundred and two. By me M DEARE Minister This marriage was solemnised between us: John GODWIN Mary OSBORNE In the presence of us Jane HATHERELL, Jno. WICKHAM Senr. (All signed) William WICKHAM of the parish of Oldbury on the Hill in the county of Gloucester, Surgeon, and Elizabeth COMELY of the aforementioned parish were married by Licence in the Parish Church of Oldbury on the Hill the seventh day of August One thousand Eight Hundred and two. By me M DEARE Minister This marriage was solemnised between us: William WICKHAM, Elizabeth COMELY In the presence of Willm. COMELY, Ann BALDWIN, Mary ?P... (All signed) Robert MAY of the parish of Oldbury on the Hill and Maria HEAVEN of this same parish were married by Banns in this Church the seventeenth day of ?Feb 1803 M DEARE Minister This marriage was solemnised between us: Robert MAY, the mark of Maria HEAVEN In the presence of Wm. HOLBOROW, Tho. WEBB (All signed except Maria) Samuel CHAPPELL and Frances ?LEE or LEG or LEY both of this parish of Oldbury on the Hill were married by Banns in the Church of Oldbury on the Hill this Nineteenth Day of April One Thousand Eight Hundred and Three M DEARE Minister This marriage was solemnised between us: Samuel CHAPPELL, the mark of Frances ?LEE or LEG or LEY In the presence of John BROWN, Mary BENCE (All signed except Francis) William WATTS, Yeoman, and Hester CLARK of the parish of Oldbury on the Hill were married by Licence in this Church of Oldbury the Ninth day of May One thousand Eight Hundred and three. By me M DEARE Minister This marriage was solemnised between us: Wm. WATTS, Hester CLARK In the presence of D. ?TAYLOR, Sarah WATTS, Mary WATTS (All signed)

Hi Martin There were indeed a couple of Joseph STINCHCOMBE's about at the time, but the one I have is son of Robert STINCHCOMBE and Hannah RUGG of Hillesley b.1765 the reason for this is Moses STINCHCOMBE son of William was executor of his uncle Josephs will and we only have one Joseph with a brother William, add to this Joseph's daughter Harriet became Exectrex of her fathers Will when Moses died before he had completed his duties. >From here you can go back another 8 generations after Robert S. regards Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Yerbury" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 9:28 AM Subject: [HWK] Joseph STINCHCOMBE > My great grandmother, Lucy STINCHCOMBE, was born at Kilcott in 1853 (we share a birthday) the daughter of Joseph and Caroline (HAMMONDS) of Kingswood who married in 1849. Joseph's parents were David and Maria (FOX) who married in 1816. David's parents were Joseph and Sarah. I'm having difficulty with the IGI data so does anyone have additional information to identify which of the several possible Josephs (all born around the 1760's) is "mine" and - of course - where the trail might go from there? > > Regards to all, > > Martin Yerbury > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > Xmas Dinner 2002......will be served at The Beaufort Arms on Saturday December 7th ....further details to follow. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Sue & Listers Sue, I would love a copy of that Will as it is part of our lot as well .. Gwen Lamie & Lesley Campbell and the THOMPSONs as our Samuel THOMPSON is connected to that family, and that SHIPWAY I suspect is not the John SHIPWAY from Stroud who married Wilmot Melhuish THOMPSON in OZ, but the John SHIPWAY connected to James who married Rodelinda Rowena THOMPSON. Thank you in advance as I am about to have a couple of weeks in Singapore with grandchildren so will not have time to keep up with the list until I check a pile of stuff when I get back. Hopw you are recovering and can see straight again. Anne Maye in Oz.

Hi Gwen and Anne There were SHIPWAYs in Oldbury on Hill from 1550's under various alias SHIPPEY/ SHIPWEY/ SHIPWEYE /SHIPWAY Christofer Shippey & Jone Jesippe 26 Nov. 1593 Christofer Shippey & Margret Styffe 26 Nov. 1601( think daughter of Publican) John Shipwey & Jone Idolles 21 Oct. 1605 Edmund Baylye & Elizabeth Shipwaye 12 Feb. 1670 Men and Armour 1608 John Shipway husbandman regards Robert Visit my web pages at http://www.btinternet.com/~ra.millard/index.htm --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hi Sue Could I have a copy of the transcript of Robert CHAPPELL's Will as well please. Robert was the son of William and Grandson of Thomas CHAPPELL of Oldbury on the Hill he was a Husbandman he married Christian IDDOLS daughter of John IDDOLS and Alice HARDINGE and grand Daughter of John and Agnes IDOLLS. some info on names mentioned :- Wife: Christian / This is Christian IDDOLS Robert is mentioned in Mother in Law Alice IDDOLS will of 1601 Brother: Nicholas CHAPPELL of Didmarton and his daughter Alice CHAPPELL / Nicholas married Annis FOORDE 16 May 1603 at Oldbury Sons: Thomas (eldest) / Married Elizabeth JACKSONS 1628 John / Married Margaret RICHEMONT at Hawkesbury 1631 William (youngest) / William was also a HusbandMan of Oldbury and died 1683 he appears to not have married Daughter: Joane CHAPPELL - presumably unmarried in 1624 / daughter Debtors: Those who owed Robert money:- John IDDOLLS the younger of Oldbury -also named as Robert's brother in / Brother in law law John IDDOLLS the elder of Oldbury / would have said this was father in law but he died 1590 Agnes & William IDDOLLS - Agnes described as "now wife of William" - / I think this is Agnes CHAPPELL Roberts sister who firstly married Thomas BALL presumably she had been married before Agnes IDDOLLS of Oldbury, widow - appears to be a second Agnes / this is Roberts mother in law Simon CODRINGTON Esquire of Didmarton / Lord of the manor William FFORDE of Tresham and his brother Julian FFORDE of Tresham / William is probably brother of Nichlas CHAPPELLs wife Annis FOORDE Thomas RUSSELL of Didmarton / unknown Robert RUSSELL of Oldbury / unknown Richard COWEN of Oldbury / unknown Others: Christopher CHAPPELL from whom Robert bought land - no specific relationship mentioned / Thought to be cousin he married Edith HOLBROW of Luckington John IORIES (? Surname not clear) / 1608 in men and armour John JORYE is a blacksmith. Widow **MES (name unclear) / ?????? Overseers: Nicholas CHAPPELL of Didmarton and John IDDOLLS the younger of Oldbury Executrix: Christian CHAPPELL Witnesses: William NOBLE, Clerke John IDDOLLS the younger John SHIPWAY of Didmarton regards Robert Visit my web pages at http://www.btinternet.com/~ra.millard/index.htm --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

My great grandmother, Lucy STINCHCOMBE, was born at Kilcott in 1853 (we share a birthday) the daughter of Joseph and Caroline (HAMMONDS) of Kingswood who married in 1849. Joseph's parents were David and Maria (FOX) who married in 1816. David's parents were Joseph and Sarah. I'm having difficulty with the IGI data so does anyone have additional information to identify which of the several possible Josephs (all born around the 1760's) is "mine" and - of course - where the trail might go from there? Regards to all, Martin Yerbury

Sue, Robert Chappell died 1624 is Anne Maye's and my 9th great grandfather. I would love to have a transcript of his will. I am particularly interested in JOHN SHIPWAY of Didmartin being a witness. Our Shipway research has hit a deadend in 1720... does anyone have more information Thanks, Gwen Lamie

Hello All, I've just spent a weekend transcribing the will of Robert CHAPPELL who died in 1624. Am now totally cross eyed!!!!!!! I'm sure quite a few listers will already have got this Will, but there are 22 different persons mentioned in various contexts so it could be of interest to quite a number of non CHAPPELL researchers. Names of everyone mentioned are as below. I will be more than happy to share my transcript. If anyone would like a copy just drop me a line. All the best Sue Sissons Hemel Hempstead **************************** Wife: Christian Brother: Nicholas CHAPPELL of Didmarton and his daughter Alice CHAPPELL Sons: Thomas (eldest) John William (youngest) Daughter: Joane CHAPPELL - presumably unmarried in 1624 Debtors: Those who owed Robert money:- John IDDOLLS the younger of Oldbury -also named as Robert's brother in law John IDDOLLS the elder of Oldbury Agnes & William IDDOLLS - Agnes described as "now wife of William" - presumably she had been married before Agnes IDDOLLS of Oldbury, widow - appears to be a second Agnes Simon CODRINGTON Esquire of Didmarton William FFORDE of Tresham and his brother Julian FFORDE of Tresham Thomas RUSSELL of Didmarton Robert RUSSELL of Oldbury Richard COWEN of Oldbury Others: Christopher CHAPPELL from whom Robert bought land - no specific relationship mentioned John IORIES (? Surname not clear) Widow **MES (name unclear) Overseers: Nicholas CHAPPELL of Didmarton and John IDDOLLS the younger of Oldbury Executrix: Christian CHAPPELL Witnesses: William NOBLE, Clerke John IDDOLLS the younger John SHIPWAY of Didmarton

Hello Everybody, I am looking for my G.G.G. Grandmother JOAN MEARD b. about 1741. I would like to be in touch with anybody who is researching any of the MEARD family, I am sorry but I do not know the exact area where they originate. Also researching HOCKEY, (HOOKEY, HOOKE.) Regards, Syd Hockey. (Southampton)

on 25/7/03 7:27 pm, Maureen Waters at [email protected] wrote: Hi Maureen, I have Hicks and Fisher in my Witchell ( husbands) line. Do not know if there is a connection but.... Charles Fisher m. Jane Witchell 25.Dec.1854 in Bristol St Andrews Clifton Unfortunately there are two sets of Charles/Jane Fisher on 1881... one a tailor another a wine merchant !!! Do you have the name of the father of Frederick Fisher by any chance? The Morse line also runs through another branch of the Witchells . I have Dangerfield in my own line who lived in Goodrich in the Ross area.... William Dangerfield senior came over from S. Glos. Unfortunately I have not researched these throughly so sadly I am not going to be of much use. If you possibly had time I would be very interested in any Dangerfield information that you might have on Rosetta and Joseph. They just might connect with our lot along the way. The William Dangerfield I am looking at was born Frampton on Severn 1815/16 and seems to have lived close to another family of Dangerfields just outside Monmouth who were b. Stroud and are found in Coaley later on in 1881 census. Kind regards, Patsy Witchell > Hi, > > Is anyone else researching these families? > > > James ALLEN m. Mary HICKS 1798 at Wotton-under Edge > | > James ALLEN bap 1799 Wotton-under Edge m. Hannah BOWYER > | > James ALLEN bap 1831 Nympsfield m. Rosetta DANGERFIELD c1830 of > Horsley, > d. of Joseph > | > William ALLEN born 1857 Horsley m. Ellen FISHER born 1857 Hallen > d. of Frederick and Mary Ann FISHER > nee MORSE > > > Maureen. > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > Hillesley Family History day will take place on Friday August 30th 2002 in > Hillesley. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Coming a little late to this conversation: I have Wickwar WATTS' intermarrying at least twice with my SHIPP and PEGG forebears. None of their names seem to match those in the correspondence so far. The largest group I have of them are the children of Henry WATTS (born c.1783) and Grace nee SHIPP. Their children's births were Susanna in 1810, Ann in 1811, Henry in about 1813, John in about 1815, Hugh in about 1816, William in about 1817, Frederick in about 1819, Joseph Shipp in 1822, Philippa in 1826 and Phyllis (date unknown). Henry senior was the son of John & Frances. If anyone can link to these I'd be interested. John Partington

I have just discovered that James KATHRO married Hannah HOPKINS of Hawkesbury sometime before 1817 (I am not sure when exactly as I have only discovered 2 children so far and I think there must be more). Hannah was the daughter of Mathew HOPKINS and Martha CREW (whose grandniece Eleanor CREW married Martha's great grandson George KATHRO), her brothers and sisters as far as I can see were Moses (1790) David (1792) Solomon (bef 1799) Susannah (bef 1799) James (1802) Is anybody out there researching the same family? If so I would love to hear from you. Nikki

Hi Carolyn, I have a lot of information on various Kethro's and Kathro's, although I have been unable to tie the names together, and I am unfortunately only back to he 1770/1780's with my Kathro's in Kingswood. I am slowly trying to sort them out. If I find out anything interesting I will let you know. Nikki ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 7:48 PM Subject: Re: [HWK] Help - Wotton under Edge > Hi > I am interested in your Kethro family. I have a Hester Kethro married > to John Hearth or Hart...She was born 24 Nov 1723 in Kingswood nr Wooton > Under Edge. > father was Blacke William Kethro and Hester or Esther. The family I > believe goes back to Cornelius Kethro. Do any of these people sound familiar? > Do you know anything of the history of the Kethro family? Is Kethro > English..Irish etc? > > Appreciate any comments or help > Regards > Carolyn Ostler > [email protected] > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > When replying to messages please make sure to remove ALL the "Re: and Hawks" bits in the subject line as otherwise these will be repeated. > Penalty for non-compliance is a Pond Dipping. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi I am interested in your Kethro family. I have a Hester Kethro married to John Hearth or Hart...She was born 24 Nov 1723 in Kingswood nr Wooton Under Edge. father was Blacke William Kethro and Hester or Esther. The family I believe goes back to Cornelius Kethro. Do any of these people sound familiar? Do you know anything of the history of the Kethro family? Is Kethro English..Irish etc? Appreciate any comments or help Regards Carolyn Ostler [email protected]