Many thanks to Robert who sat, patiently, for hours yesterday, in the Beaufort. For those of you who weren't there, imagine a doctor in his surgery. The "patients" are seated in a semicircle, awaiting their turn for a consultation., Some of them comparing notes while they wait. One by one they make their way to see the Doctor with all his diagnostic equipment (laptop, scanner, printer).. Some bring "samples" for analysis. Many of these are tested by Doctor Millard and a diagnosis given immediately. Some are given appointments for further consultation. Ultimately, the results of these examinations will be available to all. Doctor Robert, you work very hard on our behalf - thank you! Carole

Just a quick note to ask if anyone has any connection to the ZELLEY name in Gloucestershire. Brian ZELLEY, Canada

Hi Carolyn I am not familiar with this group except the name ADAY is almost certainly ADEY a well known local family John OWEN m Katherine HAINES 16 Jun 1635 at St Mary's Hawkesbury Daniel Alway m Catherine ADEY 30 Jan 1698 John HART m Elizabeth FOWLES 27 Oct 1743 William HART m Sarah LEWIS 14 Dec 1817 William HART m Mary WEBBER 27 Jan 1863 there are numerous HART births your John HART appears to be born to Robert HART b,21 May 1655 at St Mary's Charles HART is a witness to a document at Hawkesbury 20 May 1752 a document of 20 May 1613 referes to HARTES 40 acres in Hawkesbury regards Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 5:19 AM Subject: [HWK] Re: HART..OWEN..ADAY.. > Hi > Would like to know if anyone is working on the following name or know > anything about these families? > > Charles HART and Elizabeth OWEN md 6 Dec 1725 > children: William/ 18 Dec 1725 Dursley Glouc > Mary/13 Dec 1727 North Nibley > Abraham/ 6 Jan 1730 North Nibley > Sarah > > John HARTE and Mary ADAY md 1 June 1688 Hawkesbury > children: > Charles/24 Nov 1698 Hawkesbury > Ann/ 23 Feb 1702 Hawkesbury > Unnamed/ 20 Jan 1704 Hawkesbury > > John Hart son of John Hart 4 June 1670 Hawkesbury > Mary Aday dau of Thomas Aday 29 Apr 1672 Hawkesbury. > > Any help appreciated > Carolyn Ostler > [email protected] > > > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > When replying to messages please make sure to remove ALL the "Re: and Hawks" bits in the subject line as otherwise these will be repeated. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Maureen There was a family of WITCHELLS at Westerliegh for quite some time Jonas was the son of Robert WITCHELL and Elinor nee COLE they lived at Westerliegh, Elinor was born there in 1758 she died 1838, Jonas married Mary CHAMBERS 20th of Feb 1744 at Pucklechurch Jonas was buried the 31st May 1781 at Westerliegh he had a grand daughter? Hannah born 1785 but not registered (who its thought first married her cousin Wiliam WITCHELL) she married William STINCHCOMBE of Iron acton and moved to Bleanavon to work the mine and who's decendents were the STINCHCOMBE couple that appeared on Time Team when they did the dig there. Its likely that Robert WITCHELL may be the grandson of Jonas WHITCHELL and Mary STEPHENS who married at Tetbury 5th Sep 1677. There was also 3 children at Didmarton born to a Jonas and Mary WITCHELL Thomas b,1742 , William b,1744, John b,1747. these can't be children of the Westerliegh couple as they married 2 years after the first baptism. regards Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maureen Waters" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 2:06 PM Subject: RE: [HWK] New Lister researching WITCHELL > Hi everyone, > I may be on the WITCHELL trail too! > John SHORTMAN m. Lucy MICHEL, Pip and Jay, Bristol 24 Mar 1793. > Lucy, 85 on the 1851, lists her birthplace as Westerleigh. No trace of her > baptism even in surrounding parishes. > While looking for something else in the Pip and Jay registers I came across > a baptism of > John Whitchell s. of John and Lucy SHORTMAN 29 July 1794. It is not easy to > read but it > is there. Back this week to Westerleigh registers, Lucia d. of Jonas WITCHOL > baptised 31 March 1766. As John and Lucy both made their marks when they > married perhaps neither could tell if Lucy's name was correct. > Has anyone heard of a Jonas WITCHOL? > > Regards, > Maureen. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Helen Carlisle [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 8:13 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [HWK] New Lister researching WITCHELL > > > I have just joined the list and would like to say hello to everybody. I > have recently put a similar enquiry to the Gloucester list, but a very kind > lister there suggested that, since the couple I am seeking were both from > Hawkesbury, I should join this list and ask the very knowledgeable people > here. > > I have a marriage in 1777 of JOHN WITCHELL and LUCY RUMMIN on 9th February, > 1777. They were both from Hawkesbury, but the marriage took place at > Oldbury on the Hill. > > They had the following children: > > WILLIAM, baptised 28th September, 1777 in Didmartin, Gloucestershire. > JOHN, baptised 7th February, 1779 in Didmartin, Gloucestershire. > ISAAC, baptised 6th June, 1780 in Didmartin, Gloucestershire. > > There is then a gap of 10 years before I can find the birth of the next > child: > > JESSE, baptised 19th September, 1791, and this one is in Sopworth, > Wiltshire. This is not simply a late baptism, since the 1851 census gives > JESSE's age as consistent with a birth in 1791. > > I have checked the on-line IGI for Gloucestershire, Wiltshire and > Oxfordshire but have not been able to find any record of any other children. > I realise that the IGI is only a *finding tool* and I appreciate that the > absence of information does not mean there were not children (possibly > stillborn or not registered), but can anybody suggest where would be the > next place to look, or could there have been any other reason for a gap of > 10 years between the children (His/Her Majesty's Pleasure, perhaps <bg>). I > do not know what the father's occupation was. > > I also understand that Hawkesbury, Oldbury on the Hill and Sopworth are not > that far apart, so it seems to suggest that the couple did not move very > far. > > I would be delighted to hear from anybody who might have come across these > in their research. > > Best wishes and kind regards to all, > Helen, West Sussex, UK > > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > When replying to messages please make sure to remove ALL the "Re: and Hawks" > bits in the subject line as otherwise these will be repeated. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > When replying to messages please make sure to remove ALL the "Re: and Hawks" bits in the subject line as otherwise these will be repeated. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

on 31/10/03 2:06 pm, Maureen Waters at [email protected] wrote: Hi Maureen, There maybe more than one Jonas. I am in touch with someone who descends from the Jonas and Mary who had children at Pucklechurch/Westerleigh. There was also a Jonas and Mary at Hawkesbury at similar time. My friend has not traced the parentage of Jonas at Westerleigh. Jonas b. approx 1722 bur Feb 1807 St James, 84 yrs of age. 1768 Jonas listed as husbandman. Jonas married a Mary Chambers 20 Feb 1744 in Pucklechurch. They had a child Lucy b. 31 Mar 1765 at St James Westerleigh. She does not have this marriage below I am sure so will forward your email if you like? Do you have other connections? I am hoping to link the various branches to our own at Hawkesbury and Charfield. Kind Regards, Patsy Witchell > Hi everyone, > I may be on the WITCHELL trail too! > John SHORTMAN m. Lucy MICHEL, Pip and Jay, Bristol 24 Mar 1793. > Lucy, 85 on the 1851, lists her birthplace as Westerleigh. No trace of her > baptism even in surrounding parishes. > While looking for something else in the Pip and Jay registers I came across > a baptism of > John Whitchell s. of John and Lucy SHORTMAN 29 July 1794. It is not easy to > read but it > is there. Back this week to Westerleigh registers, Lucia d. of Jonas WITCHOL > baptised 31 March 1766. As John and Lucy both made their marks when they > married perhaps neither could tell if Lucy's name was correct. > Has anyone heard of a Jonas WITCHOL? > > Regards, > Maureen. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Helen Carlisle [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 8:13 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [HWK] New Lister researching WITCHELL > > > I have just joined the list and would like to say hello to everybody. I > have recently put a similar enquiry to the Gloucester list, but a very kind > lister there suggested that, since the couple I am seeking were both from > Hawkesbury, I should join this list and ask the very knowledgeable people > here. > > I have a marriage in 1777 of JOHN WITCHELL and LUCY RUMMIN on 9th February, > 1777. They were both from Hawkesbury, but the marriage took place at > Oldbury on the Hill. > > They had the following children: > > WILLIAM, baptised 28th September, 1777 in Didmartin, Gloucestershire. > JOHN, baptised 7th February, 1779 in Didmartin, Gloucestershire. > ISAAC, baptised 6th June, 1780 in Didmartin, Gloucestershire. > > There is then a gap of 10 years before I can find the birth of the next > child: > > JESSE, baptised 19th September, 1791, and this one is in Sopworth, > Wiltshire. This is not simply a late baptism, since the 1851 census gives > JESSE's age as consistent with a birth in 1791. > > I have checked the on-line IGI for Gloucestershire, Wiltshire and > Oxfordshire but have not been able to find any record of any other children. > I realise that the IGI is only a *finding tool* and I appreciate that the > absence of information does not mean there were not children (possibly > stillborn or not registered), but can anybody suggest where would be the > next place to look, or could there have been any other reason for a gap of > 10 years between the children (His/Her Majesty's Pleasure, perhaps <bg>). I > do not know what the father's occupation was. > > I also understand that Hawkesbury, Oldbury on the Hill and Sopworth are not > that far apart, so it seems to suggest that the couple did not move very > far. > > I would be delighted to hear from anybody who might have come across these > in their research. > > Best wishes and kind regards to all, > Helen, West Sussex, UK > > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > When replying to messages please make sure to remove ALL the "Re: and Hawks" > bits in the subject line as otherwise these will be repeated. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > When replying to messages please make sure to remove ALL the "Re: and Hawks" > bits in the subject line as otherwise these will be repeated. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi everyone, I may be on the WITCHELL trail too! John SHORTMAN m. Lucy MICHEL, Pip and Jay, Bristol 24 Mar 1793. Lucy, 85 on the 1851, lists her birthplace as Westerleigh. No trace of her baptism even in surrounding parishes. While looking for something else in the Pip and Jay registers I came across a baptism of John Whitchell s. of John and Lucy SHORTMAN 29 July 1794. It is not easy to read but it is there. Back this week to Westerleigh registers, Lucia d. of Jonas WITCHOL baptised 31 March 1766. As John and Lucy both made their marks when they married perhaps neither could tell if Lucy's name was correct. Has anyone heard of a Jonas WITCHOL? Regards, Maureen. -----Original Message----- From: Helen Carlisle [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 8:13 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [HWK] New Lister researching WITCHELL I have just joined the list and would like to say hello to everybody. I have recently put a similar enquiry to the Gloucester list, but a very kind lister there suggested that, since the couple I am seeking were both from Hawkesbury, I should join this list and ask the very knowledgeable people here. I have a marriage in 1777 of JOHN WITCHELL and LUCY RUMMIN on 9th February, 1777. They were both from Hawkesbury, but the marriage took place at Oldbury on the Hill. They had the following children: WILLIAM, baptised 28th September, 1777 in Didmartin, Gloucestershire. JOHN, baptised 7th February, 1779 in Didmartin, Gloucestershire. ISAAC, baptised 6th June, 1780 in Didmartin, Gloucestershire. There is then a gap of 10 years before I can find the birth of the next child: JESSE, baptised 19th September, 1791, and this one is in Sopworth, Wiltshire. This is not simply a late baptism, since the 1851 census gives JESSE's age as consistent with a birth in 1791. I have checked the on-line IGI for Gloucestershire, Wiltshire and Oxfordshire but have not been able to find any record of any other children. I realise that the IGI is only a *finding tool* and I appreciate that the absence of information does not mean there were not children (possibly stillborn or not registered), but can anybody suggest where would be the next place to look, or could there have been any other reason for a gap of 10 years between the children (His/Her Majesty's Pleasure, perhaps <bg>). I do not know what the father's occupation was. I also understand that Hawkesbury, Oldbury on the Hill and Sopworth are not that far apart, so it seems to suggest that the couple did not move very far. I would be delighted to hear from anybody who might have come across these in their research. Best wishes and kind regards to all, Helen, West Sussex, UK ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== When replying to messages please make sure to remove ALL the "Re: and Hawks" bits in the subject line as otherwise these will be repeated. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi Would like to know if anyone is working on the following name or know anything about these families? Charles HART and Elizabeth OWEN md 6 Dec 1725 children: William/ 18 Dec 1725 Dursley Glouc Mary/13 Dec 1727 North Nibley Abraham/ 6 Jan 1730 North Nibley Sarah John HARTE and Mary ADAY md 1 June 1688 Hawkesbury children: Charles/24 Nov 1698 Hawkesbury Ann/ 23 Feb 1702 Hawkesbury Unnamed/ 20 Jan 1704 Hawkesbury John Hart son of John Hart 4 June 1670 Hawkesbury Mary Aday dau of Thomas Aday 29 Apr 1672 Hawkesbury. Any help appreciated Carolyn Ostler [email protected]

My 4 x gt.grandmother was Mary THOMAS married Samuel FRANKCOM at Wotton-under-Edge on Christmas Day 1805. She lived the rest of her life at Hawkesbury and died there at the age of 87 in 1869. I have never been able to find her baptism. In both the 1851 & 1861 censuses she names her birthplace as Tetbury. I have searched that register but have never found her baptism. Can any THOMAS researchers place her? She has been one of my brick walls for a very long time. Now, having recently retired (for the second time) I am back to my family history in earnest. I would be grateful for any help. Regards Pat Adair

Sorry Folks. In my enthusiasm to send a file to another lister I inadvertantly sent it to the group. I've slapped my wrists and won't do it again. Very sheepishly Sue Sissons

Dear Phil, Many thanks for taking the time and trouble to reply. In fact I think we may have already corresponded (have you changed email from [email protected]? At the time I was looking for THOMAS BENNET JESSE WITCHELL, who now seems to have been christened and called himself all though his life simply as JESSE WITCHELL. I subsequently found his baptism in 1791 in the Sopworth records, son of JOHN and LUCY so at least I have got back one generation. Do please let me know if you come across anything in your research and I shall certainly do the same. Kind regards, Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil O'Phax" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 9:42 PM Subject: Re: [HWK] New Lister researching WITCHELL > Hi Helen, > > There are any number of us with an interest in the surname Witchell in both > Gloucestershire and Wiltshire. My interest stems from the two Witchell's > who married Warn's in Tetbury, but I have also located a single link to > what was called the "Sopworth branch". Because I have not got around to > locating Sopworth records, I cannot follow that one up, yet. For the > majority of us, the earliest way back we have gone is to the marriage of > John Witchell and Ann Boyds on 9th August 1713 in Long Newnton, Wilts. > > I have details of several hundred Witchell people mainly from > Gloucestershire but some from Wiltshire as Yatton Keynell is another > Witchell Parish. > > Best wishes, > > Phil

Hi Pat The THOMAS family were major land owners in Tetbury in the 1600's but seem to decline over the next century, Sarah THOMAS gave birth to a son James 15th July 1776 at Tetbury the church wardens determined James WEBB was the father she also baptised Alice 1764 are these names connected to Mary, did Sarah and James have another child?. Its possible she was never baptised or was baptised as an adult prior to marriage. regards Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Adair" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 4:25 AM Subject: [HWK] THOMAS > My 4 x gt.grandmother was Mary THOMAS married Samuel FRANKCOM at > Wotton-under-Edge on Christmas Day 1805. She lived the rest of her life > at Hawkesbury and died there at the age of 87 in 1869. > > I have never been able to find her baptism. In both the 1851 & 1861 > censuses she names her birthplace as Tetbury. I have searched that > register but have never found her baptism. Can any THOMAS researchers > place her? She has been one of my brick walls for a very long time. > Now, having recently retired (for the second time) I am back to my > family history in earnest. > > I would be grateful for any help. > > Regards > > Pat Adair > > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > When replying to messages please make sure to remove ALL the "Re: and Hawks" bits in the subject line as otherwise these will be repeated. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

on 26/10/03 8:13 pm, Helen Carlisle at [email protected] wrote: Hello Helen, I think we have been in touch before??? I am in contact with a direct desc. of Jesse below . I will forward your email to her. Jesse went to Bristol. Let me know how you get on. I would like to know if you have made strides in your search and if you perhaps have any other information on any branch of the Witchells. Best wishes Patsy Witchell > I have just joined the list and would like to say hello to everybody. I > have recently put a similar enquiry to the Gloucester list, but a very kind > lister there suggested that, since the couple I am seeking were both from > Hawkesbury, I should join this list and ask the very knowledgeable people > here. > > I have a marriage in 1777 of JOHN WITCHELL and LUCY RUMMIN on 9th February, > 1777. They were both from Hawkesbury, but the marriage took place at > Oldbury on the Hill. > > They had the following children: > > WILLIAM, baptised 28th September, 1777 in Didmartin, Gloucestershire. > JOHN, baptised 7th February, 1779 in Didmartin, Gloucestershire. > ISAAC, baptised 6th June, 1780 in Didmartin, Gloucestershire. > > There is then a gap of 10 years before I can find the birth of the next > child: > > JESSE, baptised 19th September, 1791, and this one is in Sopworth, > Wiltshire. This is not simply a late baptism, since the 1851 census gives > JESSE's age as consistent with a birth in 1791. > > I have checked the on-line IGI for Gloucestershire, Wiltshire and > Oxfordshire but have not been able to find any record of any other children. > I realise that the IGI is only a *finding tool* and I appreciate that the > absence of information does not mean there were not children (possibly > stillborn or not registered), but can anybody suggest where would be the > next place to look, or could there have been any other reason for a gap of > 10 years between the children (His/Her Majesty's Pleasure, perhaps <bg>). I > do not know what the father's occupation was. > > I also understand that Hawkesbury, Oldbury on the Hill and Sopworth are not > that far apart, so it seems to suggest that the couple did not move very > far. > > I would be delighted to hear from anybody who might have come across these > in their research. > > Best wishes and kind regards to all, > Helen, West Sussex, UK > > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > When replying to messages please make sure to remove ALL the "Re: and Hawks" > bits in the subject line as otherwise these will be repeated. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Helen There are a number of possibilities the usual time of service in the army was ten years about this time we had a few problems with the colonies in North America so a ten year trip may not be out of the question. There were three marriages in Oldbury and Didmarton between 1763 and 1777 was John previously married perhaps he had more children. Ruth may have had medical problems after the first 3 births. If you have not already done so a look at Ann WITCHELLS will of Tresham 1894 might mention John and family. Probably the poorlaw index for Hawkesbury , Oldbury on the Hill and Sopworth may be usefull there is an entry for John WHICHELL from Sherston / Hawkesbury 1832 and one for William WITCHELL Hawkesbury / Sopworth 1817 under Hawkesbury Index. regards Robert Visit my web pages at http://www.btinternet.com/~ra.millard/index.htm

Hi Helen, There are any number of us with an interest in the surname Witchell in both Gloucestershire and Wiltshire. My interest stems from the two Witchell's who married Warn's in Tetbury, but I have also located a single link to what was called the "Sopworth branch". Because I have not got around to locating Sopworth records, I cannot follow that one up, yet. For the majority of us, the earliest way back we have gone is to the marriage of John Witchell and Ann Boyds on 9th August 1713 in Long Newnton, Wilts. I have details of several hundred Witchell people mainly from Gloucestershire but some from Wiltshire as Yatton Keynell is another Witchell Parish. Best wishes, Phil. At 09:18 PM 10/26/2003, Helen Carlisle wrote: >Dear Sue, > >Oh, how kind of you! Yes, I would very much appreciate the WITCHELL >entries if it is not too much trouble for you. > >Thank you so much. > >Kind regards, >Helen > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 8:37 PM >Subject: Re: [HWK] New Lister researching WITCHELL > > > > Hi Helen, > > > > I don't have details of your John WITCHELL but I do have details of lots >of > > WITCHELLs from Oldbury on the Hill pre 1726. WITCHELL was a common name >in > > Oldbury up to, and after this date. > > > > I would be more than happy to let you have details of all WITCHELL entries > > pre 1726 in the Oldbury PRs if you would like them. > > > > Regards > > > > Sue Sissons > > >==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== >Please remember when you post messages that SURNAMES should be in CAPITALS. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 Member of Kent FHS, NW Kent FHS, DEVFHS,SoG,GOONS,Chairman of the Warnies Ancestral Group (WAG) I use and recommend CD's from ACDB for my One Name Study research http://www.archivecdbooks.org/

Dear Sue, Oh, how kind of you! Yes, I would very much appreciate the WITCHELL entries if it is not too much trouble for you. Thank you so much. Kind regards, Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [HWK] New Lister researching WITCHELL > Hi Helen, > > I don't have details of your John WITCHELL but I do have details of lots of > WITCHELLs from Oldbury on the Hill pre 1726. WITCHELL was a common name in > Oldbury up to, and after this date. > > I would be more than happy to let you have details of all WITCHELL entries > pre 1726 in the Oldbury PRs if you would like them. > > Regards > > Sue Sissons

I have just joined the list and would like to say hello to everybody. I have recently put a similar enquiry to the Gloucester list, but a very kind lister there suggested that, since the couple I am seeking were both from Hawkesbury, I should join this list and ask the very knowledgeable people here. I have a marriage in 1777 of JOHN WITCHELL and LUCY RUMMIN on 9th February, 1777. They were both from Hawkesbury, but the marriage took place at Oldbury on the Hill. They had the following children: WILLIAM, baptised 28th September, 1777 in Didmartin, Gloucestershire. JOHN, baptised 7th February, 1779 in Didmartin, Gloucestershire. ISAAC, baptised 6th June, 1780 in Didmartin, Gloucestershire. There is then a gap of 10 years before I can find the birth of the next child: JESSE, baptised 19th September, 1791, and this one is in Sopworth, Wiltshire. This is not simply a late baptism, since the 1851 census gives JESSE's age as consistent with a birth in 1791. I have checked the on-line IGI for Gloucestershire, Wiltshire and Oxfordshire but have not been able to find any record of any other children. I realise that the IGI is only a *finding tool* and I appreciate that the absence of information does not mean there were not children (possibly stillborn or not registered), but can anybody suggest where would be the next place to look, or could there have been any other reason for a gap of 10 years between the children (His/Her Majesty's Pleasure, perhaps <bg>). I do not know what the father's occupation was. I also understand that Hawkesbury, Oldbury on the Hill and Sopworth are not that far apart, so it seems to suggest that the couple did not move very far. I would be delighted to hear from anybody who might have come across these in their research. Best wishes and kind regards to all, Helen, West Sussex, UK

Hi Helen, I don't have details of your John WITCHELL but I do have details of lots of WITCHELLs from Oldbury on the Hill pre 1726. WITCHELL was a common name in Oldbury up to, and after this date. I would be more than happy to let you have details of all WITCHELL entries pre 1726 in the Oldbury PRs if you would like them. Regards Sue Sissons

Hi Jenny Abel CORNOCK was the son of John and Mary CORNOCK (nee FORDS)m, 30 Sep 1786 they had 4 sons 4 girls Abel bap 3 Aug 1800 was the baby of the family, His father John was previously married to Amy NELMES 24 Sep 1781 but she died and was buried 9 Sep 1882 at North Nibley. John was bap 18 May 1755 to Robert and Esther CORNOCK (nee ROWLES) m.24 Feb 1754 they had three children Mary ,Abel, John was the eldest. >From here I am not sure but I think Robert was born 1706 to Thomas and Margeret CORNOCK (nee MORRIS) m,9 Apr 1690 at Yate, He in turn was son of Thomas CURNOCK and he was son of ARTHUR CURNOCKE thomas had a brother named Arthur who had a son named Abel in b.1701 (the first one) he died in 1729, there is only one other Robert born in the area I know of that was in Slimbridge 1734 my X great uncle but he died in 1735 so we can discount him I think, I believe Robert of 1706 married late in life hence would be aged 48 at marriage. I have records for the CORNOCKS back to abt 1450 at Goldwyke nr North Nibley whick still exists as a large farm at Blanchworth now a village 2 miles west of North Nibley they also owned Blanchworth from late 1400's, the same family spread to Thornbury, Oldbury, Slimbridge, and North Nibley and Hillesley. regards Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny Smith" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 6:03 PM Subject: [HWK] Cornock family > Hello Robert, > Hope you are well. I am helping a no computer friend with the name CORNOCK. > [lots of them in North Nibley!] His link is Abel who was born circa. 1800 North Nibley baptised 3 Aug 1800 who married Hannah HANCOCK. Is this family known to anyone? > I will get back to you about November 1st get together, otherwise..Christmas lunch date please! > regards Jenny Smith > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > When replying to messages please make sure to remove ALL the "Re: and Hawks" bits in the subject line as otherwise these will be repeated. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hello Jenny As you're interested in North Nibley you possibly know of this site, but if not then you may find it of some assistance: www.rootsweb.com/~engcots/NNibleyRecords.html . Regards Roderick. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jenny Smith <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 1:03 AM > Subject: [HWK] Cornock family > > > > Hello Robert, > > Hope you are well. I am helping a no computer friend with the name > CORNOCK. > > [lots of them in North Nibley!] His link is Abel who was born circa. > 1800 North Nibley baptised 3 Aug 1800 who married Hannah HANCOCK. Is this > family known to anyone? > > I will get back to you about November 1st get together, > otherwise..Christmas lunch date please! > > regards Jenny Smith > > > > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > > When replying to messages please make sure to remove ALL the "Re: and > Hawks" bits in the subject line as otherwise these will be repeated. > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > >

Hi Tony William was the son of George PINCOTT and Mary WOODMAN of Tormarton born abt 1843 he worked as a gardener at Petty France House. I have some transcribed certs for them on my web pages under BDM www.btinternet.com/~ra.millard regards Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "anthony james" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 11:32 AM Subject: [HWK] Pincott and Teagle > Hi Robert > Which William PINCOTT are we referring to please > > Tony > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > When replying to messages please make sure to remove ALL the "Re: and Hawks" bits in the subject line as otherwise these will be repeated. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >