I've found the following individuals on some 1891 census pages. If anyone woudl like the full entry , just ask! John HINDER age 41 Ag Lab born Hawkesbury living with wife Charlotte & children at Apple Ridge, Ham John STINCHCOMBE 39 Hurdlemaker born Hawkesbury living with wife Emma 37 also born Hawkesbury & children at Park Lodge, Ham Cheers Carole

Thanks Anne for the information - Lesley

Hi all. Thanks Robert and Sue for the info, I will try the web site and hope I find something. Regards, John

Hello Everyone. Could anyone tell me where I can find any court records for Gloucestershire. I am looking for a JOSEPH POWDERHILL, a Butcher from Winchcombe, I believe he was aged 48, and was a "prisoner on remand" at Gloucester prison in October 1858. I have a number ( Q/Gc6/3 ) but dont know what that is. If anyone can help I would be very Grateful, and it's nice to get some interesting details for the family tree. Regards, John

Hi John > I am looking for a JOSEPH POWDERHILL, a Butcher from Winchcombe, I believe > he was aged 48, and was a "prisoner on remand" at Gloucester prison in > October 1858. > Follow this link to Gloucester Record Office: <A HREF="http://www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=1348">Gloucestershire County Council: Record Office</A> or <A HREF="http://www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=1348">http://www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=1348</A> If you search their Genealogical database you will probably find a record of your Joseph POWDERHILL. Make a note of the reference of the entry. You can then download an orderform and order up a photocopy of the relevant entry. Details of cost etc. are also shown on the Web Site. This is a very useful site to know about. Good hunting Sue Sissons Hemel Hempstead

Robert The three sisters look good. The family of John NEALE and Nancy CORBETT had a Mary, Sarah and Ann of just these ages. On the other hand, this would mean the Mary married to William Winbow was NOT of this family! UNLESS she had for some reason reverted to using her family name after William died. (Possibly in 1834) From Beavington's transcription that I have it's not clear whether Mary is unmarried or a widaw. This makes another connection which needs a bit of thinking over. Doug on 11/11/03 7:58 am, Robert Millard at [email protected] wrote: > Hi Doug > I have another > Henry (Harry) Neale ALWAY born Yate 1845 marriet Harriet from Marshfield who > was the post lady at Hawkesbury for many years the elder siblings of Harry > were living with 3 NEALE sisters in Yate sisters Mary Sarah and Ann in 1851 > are they connected. > regards > Robert

I will send it Barbara. Pressure of work may mean it will be in a few days. Doug on 10/11/03 6:19 pm, Barbara Stevens at [email protected] wrote: > Hi again Doug > Would you be able to send me a mini gedcom please ? If so my email address > is [email protected] > Barbara

Richard >the tram driver was my grandfather! Did your grandfather also come from Hawkesbury? It would be shock enough to have it happen to you when you were driving a tram, but if you knew the person as well...... Cynthia Stiles http://about-bristol.co.uk (On-line photo tours of Bristol) http://bristolinformation.co.uk (Aspects of Bristol history and genealogy) http://stiles-genealogy.co.uk (Stiles, Wyatt, Evans)

Hi Doug I have another Henry (Harry) Neale ALWAY born Yate 1845 marriet Harriet from Marshfield who was the post lady at Hawkesbury for many years the elder siblings of Harry were living with 3 NEALE sisters in Yate sisters Mary Sarah and Ann in 1851 are they connected. regards Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Thompson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 12:20 AM Subject: Re: [HWK] Elizabeth Thompson/Mary Winbow > on 09/11/03 2:48 pm, Robert Millard at [email protected] wrote: > > > also Mary the wife of William WINBOW who had a son William Neale WINBOW b,1829 > > regards > > Robert > > Robert > > Mary NEALE who married William WINBOW was christened 1 November 1790 in > Yate, daughter of John NEALE and Nancy CORBETT. This makes William Neale > WINBOW cousin to Robert Neale SHIPP. > > and to Barbara who wrote > > > We know that Sarah Neale has about 10 siblings but have no names > > for them. > > I have details of 9 siblings in this family. Do you want any of it? > > I am descended from her sister Susannah. > > > Cousin Doug > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > Please remember when you post messages that SURNAMES should be in CAPITALS. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

on 09/11/03 2:48 pm, Robert Millard at [email protected] wrote: > also Mary the wife of William WINBOW who had a son William Neale WINBOW b,1829 > regards > Robert Robert Mary NEALE who married William WINBOW was christened 1 November 1790 in Yate, daughter of John NEALE and Nancy CORBETT. This makes William Neale WINBOW cousin to Robert Neale SHIPP. and to Barbara who wrote > We know that Sarah Neale has about 10 siblings but have no names > for them. I have details of 9 siblings in this family. Do you want any of it? I am descended from her sister Susannah. Cousin Doug

Hi again Doug Would you be able to send me a mini gedcom please ? If so my email address is [email protected] Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Thompson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 12:20 AM Subject: Re: [HWK] Elizabeth Thompson/Mary Winbow > on 09/11/03 2:48 pm, Robert Millard at [email protected] wrote: > > > also Mary the wife of William WINBOW who had a son William Neale WINBOW b,1829 > > regards > > Robert > > Robert > > Mary NEALE who married William WINBOW was christened 1 November 1790 in > Yate, daughter of John NEALE and Nancy CORBETT. This makes William Neale > WINBOW cousin to Robert Neale SHIPP. > > and to Barbara who wrote > > > We know that Sarah Neale has about 10 siblings but have no names > > for them. > > I have details of 9 siblings in this family. Do you want any of it? > > I am descended from her sister Susannah. > > > Cousin Doug > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > Please remember when you post messages that SURNAMES should be in CAPITALS. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > --- Barbara's email is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.537 / Virus Database: 332 - Release Date: 06/11/2003

Yes please Doug, the more the merrier. Regards, Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Thompson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 12:20 AM Subject: Re: [HWK] Elizabeth Thompson/Mary Winbow > on 09/11/03 2:48 pm, Robert Millard at [email protected] wrote: > > > also Mary the wife of William WINBOW who had a son William Neale WINBOW b,1829 > > regards > > Robert > > Robert > > Mary NEALE who married William WINBOW was christened 1 November 1790 in > Yate, daughter of John NEALE and Nancy CORBETT. This makes William Neale > WINBOW cousin to Robert Neale SHIPP. > > and to Barbara who wrote > > > We know that Sarah Neale has about 10 siblings but have no names > > for them. > > I have details of 9 siblings in this family. Do you want any of it? > > I am descended from her sister Susannah. > > > Cousin Doug > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > Please remember when you post messages that SURNAMES should be in CAPITALS. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > --- Barbara's email is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.537 / Virus Database: 332 - Release Date: 06/11/2003

ROBERT NEALE SHIPP b.1810. His Neale connection was through his Mother SARAH NEALE b.1790 whose parents were JOHN NEALE of Yate b.1762 & NANCY CORBETT. We know that Sarah Neale has about 10 siblings but have no names for them. Regards, Barbara (Shipp) ----- Original Message ----- From: "anthony sharp" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 7:33 AM Subject: [HWK] Elizabeth Thompson > > > also Mary the wife of William WINBOW who had a son William Neale WINBOW > b,1829 > > regards > > Robert > > I don't know who she was but she seems to have been born somewhere between > 1797 and 1801, either at Yate or Beaminster Dorset, depending on whether you > choose the 1851 or 1871 census. In 1881 she chose Yate. > > Could she be a NEALE and is there any connection with Robert NEALE SHIPP? > > Cheers > Carole > > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > When replying to messages please make sure to remove ALL the "Re: and Hawks" bits in the subject line as otherwise these will be repeated. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > --- Barbara's email is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.537 / Virus Database: 332 - Release Date: 06/11/2003

Cynthia Many thanks for this. I'd heard about the accident before - the tram driver was my grandfather! Richard Teagle -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 08 November 2003 15:06 To: [email protected] Subject: [HWK] AUST >From Bristol newspaper July 12th 1916. Inquest on Arthur Charles AUST, aged 63 of Hawkesbury Upton who died as a result of an accident in Fishponds that oaacuured on July 1st. According to witnesses Mr Aust led his pony and trap out suddenly in front of a tramcar. The car knocked down the pony which pulled down the man and kicked him, fracturing his ribs. Walter George Teagle, the driver of the tramcar applied brakes but could not have avoided the accident happening. Mr Aust's widow was satisfied that no blame could be attached to Mr Teagle. Cynthia Stiles http://about-bristol.co.uk (On-line photo tours of Bristol) http://bristolinformation.co.uk (Aspects of Bristol history and genealogy) http://stiles-genealogy.co.uk (Stiles, Wyatt, Evans) ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== Please remember when you post messages that SURNAMES should be in CAPITALS. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

> also Mary the wife of William WINBOW who had a son William Neale WINBOW b,1829 > regards > Robert I don't know who she was but she seems to have been born somewhere between 1797 and 1801, either at Yate or Beaminster Dorset, depending on whether you choose the 1851 or 1871 census. In 1881 she chose Yate. Could she be a NEALE and is there any connection with Robert NEALE SHIPP? Cheers Carole

Robert She is Elizabeth Thompson, born in Stroud ca 1780. She is not "one of ours" as far as I can see. (James and Elizabeth occur on the 1851 Hawkesbury census aged 75 and 70.) Doug on 09/11/03 2:48 pm, Robert Millard at [email protected] wrote: > Hi List > Does antbody know who Elizabeth THOMPSON is who married James CARTER at > Hawkesbury 6 Feb 1803 > regards > Robert

Hi List Does antbody know who Elizabeth THOMPSON is who married James CARTER at Hawkesbury 6 Feb 1803 also Mary the wife of William WINBOW who had a son William Neale WINBOW b,1829 regards Robert Visit my web pages at http://www.btinternet.com/~ra.millard/index.htm

>From Bristol newspaper July 12th 1916. Inquest on Arthur Charles AUST, aged 63 of Hawkesbury Upton who died as a result of an accident in Fishponds that oaacuured on July 1st. According to witnesses Mr Aust led his pony and trap out suddenly in front of a tramcar. The car knocked down the pony which pulled down the man and kicked him, fracturing his ribs. Walter George Teagle, the driver of the tramcar applied brakes but could not have avoided the accident happening. Mr Aust's widow was satisfied that no blame could be attached to Mr Teagle. Cynthia Stiles http://about-bristol.co.uk (On-line photo tours of Bristol) http://bristolinformation.co.uk (Aspects of Bristol history and genealogy) http://stiles-genealogy.co.uk (Stiles, Wyatt, Evans)

Hi List, Thought some of you may like to know that one of this line, Dorothy VALLETT, died peacefully in her sleep in Sydney AUS on 26 Oct 2003 at the age of 87. The line is this: Samuel THOMPSON (1793-1875) & Maria CHAPPEL(1783-1863) Wilmot Melhuish THOMPSON (c1817-1899) & John SHIPWAY (1818-1885) Arthur Edmund SHIPWAY (1845-1925) & Nancy HYDE (1855-1900) Wilmot Ann SHIPWAY (1886-1957) & Thomas McQUILTY (1876-1949) Dorothy Lorraine McQUILTY (1916-2003) & Raymond Wyeth VALLETT (1910-1995). Anne Maye.

Hi Sue Yes please. I would be delighted to accept your offer of transcripts, especially the one for John WATTS. Here's a little extra information that I know you'll like. I've just downloaded another Will - Richard WATTS of Alveston , made 14 Feb 1611 proved 31 March 1612. (would this be the same year?). He is the son of William WATTS in the will of 1609. His Will names Richard and Thomas, my sons. ?Anne and Alice, my daughters. Margery IDOLLS my sister!!!! William, Thomas and Agnes IDOLLS her children!!! John WATTS the son of my brother William Margarett my Wife. Also Joane ATKINS; Thomas SMITH, John ?PHILL. Debtors were Henry ?REEVE of Axebury or Westbury; William ?TOBY my brother in law; Thomas SHORT or HORT my brother in law and John ???Underwood Signed by Richard WATTS his mark; Sam. NEALE, John IDOLLS his mark, Tho. SMITH. So it's all coming together. Well done the Hawkesbury team! Cheers Carole