Hi Carole., Don't know if this helps or not but for your information in the Will of Daniel ALLEN of Hawkesbury proven at London 31st MaY 1824 (transcript of which I submitted to Roberts site) he mentions his grandchildren: Allen., Mary Maria., James., DAvid., John and a male infant unbaptized as far as he knew GOULTER the children of his late bereaved daughter Sarah the wife of James GOULTER of Acton Turville. Season s Greetings., Patricia Gundish anthony sharp wrote: > Thought I'd throw another COOK family into the mixing pot! I think Eliza > COOK was the daughter of a William COOK. She does not seem to have married > Thomas WATTS, (Innkeeper at the Royal Oak, Chipping Sodbury) who was the > father of her first batch of children but she did marry John GOULTER, who, > on his marriage certificate, says he is a Grocer of Hawkesbury.. > > All connections welcomed. > Best wishes > Carole > > Descendants of Eliza Cook > > 1 Eliza Cook b: November 15, 1818 in Iron Acton, GLS > > . +Thomas Watts b: October 22, 1797 in Chipping Sodbury d: Bet. July 14 and > 21, 1854 in Chipping Sodbury > > .... 2 George Cook b: 1838 in Chipping Sodbury > > .... 2 Sarah Ann Cook b: 1841 in Chipping Sodbury > > .... 2 Jane Cook b: 1843 in Chipping Sodbury > > ........ +Henry John Shield b: 1843 in Yate, GLS m: October 25, 1866 in > Chipping Sodbury, GLS > > .......... 3 Henry M or W Shield b: Abt. 1867 in Sodbury, GLS > > .............. +Alice Collier b: 1869 in St George, GLS m: February 23, 1890 > in St Luke, Bristol d: Bef. 1901 > > .......... 3 Frederick James Shield b: Abt. 1869 > > .............. +Matilda Llewellin b: 1869 m: December 25, 1891 in Register > Office, Barton Regis, Bristol > > .......... 3 Laura G Shield b: Abt. 1870 > > .......... 3 Beatrice M Shield b: Abt. 1876 > > .......... 3 Thomas C Shield b: Abt. 1882 > > .......... 3 Madeline Shield b: Abt. 1885 > > .... 2 Mary Cook b: 1846 in Chipping Sodbury > > .... 2 Thomas Watts Cook b: Bef. December 23, 1850 in Chipping Sodbury > > *2nd Husband of Eliza Cook: > > . +John Goulter m: June 9, 1855 in Chipping Sodbury, GLS > > .... 2 John Goulter b: Abt. 1858 in Chipping Sodbury, GLS > > .... 2 Laura? Goulter b: Abt. 1858 in Chipping Sodbury, GLS > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > Please remember when you post messages that SURNAMES should be in CAPITALS. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi Richard I don't have all the pages so If I don't have the names it doesn't mean that they are not in Oldbury in 1841. Henry HOLBOROW is all alone at Folly. I think this is also a HOLBOROW family (surname is a bit ambiguous) , living next door to Daniel WATTS. All born in Gloucestershire Joseph 54 Baker Maria 45 Joseph 24 Ellen 20 William 15 Daniel 12 Harriett 7 Can I interest you in a TEAGLE family? Oldbury St, both born in Gloucs. George TEAGLE 35 Ag Labourer Jane 35 Cheers Carole ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Teagle" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 4:59 PM Subject: RE: [HWK] CHAPPELL & WATTS & TOGHILL 1841 census > Carole > > Do you have any more information on the Henry HOLBOROW entry you listed > below (e.g. rest of household) or any other HOLBOROW's on the 1841 census > for Oldbury (esp a Henry aged about 17). > > Richard Teagle > Email [email protected] > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: anthony sharp [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 02 April 2003 07:23 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [HWK] CHAPPELL & WATTS & TOGHILL 1841 census > > > Helo List > > I know we've discussed the complicated relationship between the WATTS & > TOGHILL family before. Here is an entry from the 1841 census for Oldbury on > the Hill which I didn't have at the time. > > Oldbury St > Daniel WATTS 28 Maltster Y > Jane TOGHILL 37 Independent Y > Charles TOGHILL 13 Y > Edward TOGHILL 17 Y > Hugh WATTS 3 weeks Y > Arabella HAYWARD 60 Female Servant N > > For good measure here are some more entries! > > Oldbury St (next door to the above) > Samuel CHAPPELL 45 Surveyor Y > Mary CHAPPELL 40 Y > ?Ezekiel " 11 Y > Thomas " 20 Labourer Y > Eliza " 6 Y > Elizabeth " 4 Y > John " 3 Y > / Thomas CLARK 40 labourer Y > > // Henry CRAWLEY 72 Accomptant N > > // Folly > Henry HOLBOROW 55 Ind N > > Cheers > Carole >

Hi Patricia, Thanks for that. John Goulter is from Acton Turville, according to the 1851 & 1861 censuses, born about 1819.so possibly the young John you mention. In 1851 John GOULTER was at Upton, married to Ann age 32 (born about 1819 Horton). He was a widower when he married Eliza COOK in 1855.. Sarah ALLEN married James GOULTER 2 May 1811, Banns at Hawkesbury (but I expect you already know this)! Best wishes Carole

Carole Do you have any more information on the Henry HOLBOROW entry you listed below (e.g. rest of household) or any other HOLBOROW's on the 1841 census for Oldbury (esp a Henry aged about 17). Richard Teagle Email [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: anthony sharp [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 02 April 2003 07:23 To: [email protected] Subject: [HWK] CHAPPELL & WATTS & TOGHILL 1841 census Helo List I know we've discussed the complicated relationship between the WATTS & TOGHILL family before. Here is an entry from the 1841 census for Oldbury on the Hill which I didn't have at the time. Oldbury St Daniel WATTS 28 Maltster Y Jane TOGHILL 37 Independent Y Charles TOGHILL 13 Y Edward TOGHILL 17 Y Hugh WATTS 3 weeks Y Arabella HAYWARD 60 Female Servant N For good measure here are some more entries! Oldbury St (next door to the above) Samuel CHAPPELL 45 Surveyor Y Mary CHAPPELL 40 Y ?Ezekiel " 11 Y Thomas " 20 Labourer Y Eliza " 6 Y Elizabeth " 4 Y John " 3 Y / Thomas CLARK 40 labourer Y // Henry CRAWLEY 72 Accomptant N // Folly Henry HOLBOROW 55 Ind N Cheers Carole ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== Don't forget to bookmark http://www.HawkesburyFamilyHistory.co.uk and visit regulary. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hello Brian, Thanks for your response which takes me much further down the Cook family than I have attempted. In tracing the Hawker family, I came across 3 daughters of Joseph Cook, and was curious to know more about him. What I have, as follows, has some variations from your info. Joseph Cook b Jun 1781 Hawkesbury (parents John Cook & Anna Rodway) m Feb 1813 Mary Niblett ( b May 1792 Hawkesbury Upton) Children 1 Elizabeth b 1818 2 Mary b apr 1820 m 1840 Joseph Isaac. Their daughter Anne married John Hawker. 3 Peter b Aug 1823 4 Drusilla b Apr 1828 m 1848 William Hawker b1824 5 Ann b Jun 1830 6 John b Jan 1833 7 Sarah b Aug 1835 m 1861 James Limbrick. Their daughter Jane Clare married Herbert Enoch Hawker. I have come across the marriage of a Joseph Cook to Mary Rannols (?Reynolds) but haven't found any offspring following that date in Hawkesbury. Also unless it is a typing error if she was born 1793 she was young to marry in 1804 I am fairly sure of the info as it affects the Hawker tree. If you know of any discrepancies I should be only too glad to know. Regards, Keith Marshall

Thought I'd throw another COOK family into the mixing pot! I think Eliza COOK was the daughter of a William COOK. She does not seem to have married Thomas WATTS, (Innkeeper at the Royal Oak, Chipping Sodbury) who was the father of her first batch of children but she did marry John GOULTER, who, on his marriage certificate, says he is a Grocer of Hawkesbury.. All connections welcomed. Best wishes Carole Descendants of Eliza Cook 1 Eliza Cook b: November 15, 1818 in Iron Acton, GLS . +Thomas Watts b: October 22, 1797 in Chipping Sodbury d: Bet. July 14 and 21, 1854 in Chipping Sodbury .... 2 George Cook b: 1838 in Chipping Sodbury .... 2 Sarah Ann Cook b: 1841 in Chipping Sodbury .... 2 Jane Cook b: 1843 in Chipping Sodbury ........ +Henry John Shield b: 1843 in Yate, GLS m: October 25, 1866 in Chipping Sodbury, GLS .......... 3 Henry M or W Shield b: Abt. 1867 in Sodbury, GLS .............. +Alice Collier b: 1869 in St George, GLS m: February 23, 1890 in St Luke, Bristol d: Bef. 1901 .......... 3 Frederick James Shield b: Abt. 1869 .............. +Matilda Llewellin b: 1869 m: December 25, 1891 in Register Office, Barton Regis, Bristol .......... 3 Laura G Shield b: Abt. 1870 .......... 3 Beatrice M Shield b: Abt. 1876 .......... 3 Thomas C Shield b: Abt. 1882 .......... 3 Madeline Shield b: Abt. 1885 .... 2 Mary Cook b: 1846 in Chipping Sodbury .... 2 Thomas Watts Cook b: Bef. December 23, 1850 in Chipping Sodbury *2nd Husband of Eliza Cook: . +John Goulter m: June 9, 1855 in Chipping Sodbury, GLS .... 2 John Goulter b: Abt. 1858 in Chipping Sodbury, GLS .... 2 Laura? Goulter b: Abt. 1858 in Chipping Sodbury, GLS

Hello Keith I think you must be talking about Joseph with 8 children. What do you wish to know? His antecedents or the rest of his family? We have some of the marriages but some of his daughters are unaccounted for. We have him as married to Mary Rannols but I at least don't have any HAWKERS attached to him so would be pleased to expand the known 'commonwealth' of information This is what I have - best wishes Brian Descendants of Joseph Cook 1 Joseph Cook b: June 20, 1781 in Hawkesbury Baptism: June 20, 1781 Parents John/Ann d: Aft. 1851 # chldn: 8 .. +Mary Rannols b: Abt. 1793 in Hawkesbury Upton m: March 25, 1804 in Hawkesbury d: Aft. 1861 in Hawkesbury, Gloucs # chldn: 8 2 Mary Cook 2 Drusilla Cook b: 1809 in Hawkesbury, Gloucs 2 Elizabeth Cook b: 1819 in Hawkesbury, Gloucs Baptism: 1818 Wickwar d: Aft. 1861 in Hillsley, Gloucs # chldn: 1 .... +Edward Pope b: 1819 in Berkeley, Gloucs m: May 23, 1849 in Hawkesbury, Gloucs d: Bef. 1861 # chldn: 1 ... 3 Henry James Pope b: 1850 in Hawkesbury, Gloucs 2 Peter Cook b: 1825 in Horton, Gloucs d: Aft. 1881 in Charlton, Wilts # chldn: 9 .... +JaneCook b: 1826 in Horton, Gloucs d: Aft. 1881 # chldn: 9 ... 3 William Alfred Cook b: July 26, 1846 in Hillsley, Gloucs Baptism: July 26, 1846 Hawkesbury, s/o Peter and Jane PRS GRO d: Aft. 1881 # chldn: 1 ....... +EmmaCook b: Abt. 1846 in Hawkesbury, Gloucs d: Aft. 1881 # chldn: 1 ...... 4 Joseph Cook b: 1879 in Hawkesbury, Gloucs d: Aft. 1881 ... 3 Edwin Cook b: 1848 in Hillsley, Gloucs d: Aft. 1881 in Hawkesbury, Gloucs ....... +Elizabeth Frances Limbrick b: in Hawkesbury, Gloucs m: June 1884 ... 3 Sarah Jane Cook b: 1850 in Whitfield, Gloucs d: Aft. 1881 ... 3 Eliza Cook b: 1855 in Thornbury, Gloucs d: Aft. 1881 ... 3 George L Cook b: 1857 in Thornbury, Gloucs ... 3 Andrew Cook b: 1859 in Hawkesbury, Gloucs d: Aft. 1881 ... 3 Daniel Cook b: 1860 in Hawkesbury, Gloucs d: Aft. 1881 ... 3 Julia Cook b: 1863 in Hawkesbury, Gloucs d: Aft. 1881 ... 3 Sidney Cook b: 1864 in Hawkesbury, Gloucs d: Aft. 1881 2 Drusilla Cook b: 1827 in Hawkesbury, Gloucs 2 Ann Cook b: 1831 in Hawkesbury Upton, Gloucs 2 John Cook b: 1833 in Hawkesbury Upton, Gloucs d: Aft. 1881 # chldn: 5 .... +MaryCook b: Abt. 1834 # chldn: 2 ... 3 Henry Ernest Cook b: July 08, 1855 in Hawkesbury, Gloucs Baptism: July 08, 1855 PRs Hawkesbury s/o John & Mary ... 3 Joseph Samuel Cook b: July 08, 1855 in Hawkesbury, Gloucs Baptism: July 08, 1855 PRs Hawkesbury. s/o John (Lab) & Mary *2nd Wife of John Cook: .... +EmmaCook b: 1843 in Plymstock, Devon m: Abt. 1876 # chldn: 3 ... 3 John H. Cook b: 1877 in 31 High St, East Stonehouse, Devon ... 3 Emily R. Cook b: 1878 in 31 High St, East Stonehouse, Devon ... 3 Joseph H. Cook b: 1880 in 31 High St, East Stonehouse, Devon 2 Sarah Cook b: 1836 in Hawkesbury d: Aft. 1881 # chldn: 5 .... +James Limbrick b: 1831 in Hawkesbury m: March 19, 1861 in Hawkesbury d: Aft. 1881 # chldn: 5 ... 3 Alice Limbrick b: 1862 in North Nibley, Gloucs ... 3 Ann S Limbrick b: 1865 in Wickwar, Gloucs ... 3 Hannah R Limbrick b: 1870 in Wickwar, Gloucs ... 3 Margaret Limbrick b: 1876 in Wickwar, Gloucs ... 3 Jane C Limbrick b: 1877 in Wickwar, Gloucs

Hi, While you are thinking about COOKs, can anyone tell me anything about JOSEPH COOK b 1781 Hawkesbury. Three of his daughters appear in my wife's HAWKER family tree. Keith

Hi Trevor We can probably norrow the choices of John WALKERS down to 2 John son of Benjamin b,20 Oct 1661 and John son of William b,Apr 1669 both at Hawkesbury the marriage register does not give any clue and it seems both John and Ellinor nee COOK are of Hawkesbury we also have another John who features in the Portman papers but he seems not to be married although we can't be certain. I think the best hope of proceeding would be with Wills there may well be a clue, A will exists for 2 Benjamin WALKERS of Acton Turville the WALKERS are known to have worked on the Beaufort estates over many generations so there could well be a connection with Acton Turville. regards Robert Visit my web pages at http://www.hawkesburyhistory.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "tflake" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 7:01 PM Subject: [HWK] John WALKER and Ellinor COOK > John WALKER and Ellinor COOK married Hawkesbury 31 March 1689. > > Does anyone have a clue as to which John Walker and which Ellinor Cook? There are various candidates on the IGI > > Thanks > > Trevor Lake > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > When replying to messages please make sure to remove ALL the "Re: and Hawks" bits in the subject line as otherwise these will be repeated. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

John WALKER and Ellinor COOK married Hawkesbury 31 March 1689. Does anyone have a clue as to which John Walker and which Ellinor Cook? There are various candidates on the IGI Thanks Trevor Lake

Does anyone know whether a detailed list or abstract of the Badminton muniments at the Gloucestershire Record Office exists somewhere, such as the Portman Papers that exists on Robert Millard's website? The record of the collection at Access to Archives (www.a2a.org.uk) shows a lot of Hawkesbury documents. I'm particularly interested in determining whether there might be anything that would document Silvester, wife of Henry Neale, of Little Badminton/Hawkesbury (born perhaps about 1565, died 1657 at Sherston). William Boteler, Esq., of Great Badminton (Lord of the manors of Hawkesbury, Great and Little Badminton), married Silvester Gyes (who was probably born about 1515) and, according to the Visitation of Gloucestershire, 1623, their daughter Dorothy married ---- Hancock. John and Dorothy Hancock appear on the survey of Upton in the Portman Papers list. I haven't found a will for John Hancock (and I've looked at all the wills for the various John Hancocks in Gloucestershire for this period), so I think he died intestate. It would make sense that John and Dorothy Hancock may have held some of Boteler's land. If he died intestate, it would have been split among his children. One of these could be Richard Hancock (d. 1649, if I have the date right), of Upton. Another could be Silvester, wife of Henry Neale, some of whose land bordered Hancock land. Silvester Neale had a daughter Dorothy, born about 1590, who married Richard Francklyn, of Sherston Magna. The will of William Boteler, Esq., (d. 1586), son of the above William Boteler, gives bequests to various brothers, but unfortunately not to the Hancocks. Dorothy Boteler would probably have been born around 1540. The survey in the Portman Papers shows that their heir was Henry Hancock, but he must have died young, as I haven't found any further record. Silvester, wife of Henry Neale, would have been the right age to be Dorothy's daughter. Conceivably Richard Hancock, born say about 1580, could have been Dorothy's child as well. The other question I would like to know something about is whether the manorial custom in or around Hawkesbury was for daughters to receive land upon marriage. Paul Gifford

I also have this listed as HOTKINS which I have assumed to be HOPKINS in ye olde English. Anne Maye.

Hi Helen Nathaniel and Jane CHAPPELL's daughter Mary married Thomas RUMMIN 1765 Nathaniel WATTS sister Ann married Edward CHAPPELL Robert CHAPPELL and Nathaniel WATTS were probably friends of John WITCHELL Mary CHAPPELL 3rd Wife of John WITCHELL was daughter of James CHAPPELL and Sarah RODWAY I don't have the marriage for William WITCHELL and Mary CHAPPELL could you let me have details please. Just about every fourth family at Oldbury were CHAPPELL's they were trades people farmers and church wardens and all related. regards Robert Visit my web pages at http://www.hawkesburyhistory.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen Carlisle" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 8:06 PM Subject: [HWK] CHAPPELL > All this talk of NATHANIAL CHAPPELL has me champing at the bit! I am > wondering if this is the same man who was one of the witnesses, along with > ROBERT CHAPPELL, at the marriage in 1777 of JOHN WITCHELL and LUCY RUMMIN > (his 3rd wife) at Didmarton. JOHN WITCHELL was the son of WILLIAM WITCHELL > and MARY CHAPPELL. > > ROBERT CHAPPELL was also a witness earlier in 1767 between the same JOHN > WITCHELL and CATHERINE CLARKE (his 2nd wife) - the second witness was a > NATHANIAL WATTS. > > It seems therefore that I have a NATHANIAL CHAPPELL and a ROBERT CHAPPELL > somewhere in the family - just haven't worked out where yet. If anybody > could shed any light on this connection, I would be very grateful. > > Kind regards and best wishes to all, > Helen, West Sussex, UK > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > Please remember when you post messages that SURNAMES should be in CAPITALS. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

All this talk of NATHANIAL CHAPPELL has me champing at the bit! I am wondering if this is the same man who was one of the witnesses, along with ROBERT CHAPPELL, at the marriage in 1777 of JOHN WITCHELL and LUCY RUMMIN (his 3rd wife) at Didmarton. JOHN WITCHELL was the son of WILLIAM WITCHELL and MARY CHAPPELL. ROBERT CHAPPELL was also a witness earlier in 1767 between the same JOHN WITCHELL and CATHERINE CLARKE (his 2nd wife) - the second witness was a NATHANIAL WATTS. It seems therefore that I have a NATHANIAL CHAPPELL and a ROBERT CHAPPELL somewhere in the family - just haven't worked out where yet. If anybody could shed any light on this connection, I would be very grateful. Kind regards and best wishes to all, Helen, West Sussex, UK

It was Nathaniel's daughter Jane not Mary who married Thomas RUMMINGS or RUMMINS at 1765 in Easton Grey, Wiltshire His daughter Mary married William Lucas. Regards Carolyn Ostler [email protected]

Bigland has the burial of Willmot, wife of Nathaniel CHAPPEL Died 21 May 1794 age 56. Nothing for Nathaniel, or Jane or Sarah For the record, and also in Oldbury on the Hill, there were headstones for the following CHAPPELLS John age 70 18 Nov 1781 Joseph 61 12 April 1741 Hester his wife 81 10 Oct 1762 Joseph 79 5 Nov 1769 Mary his wife 75 8 June 1768 Nicholas 63 8 March 1780 Mary his wife 35 9 Feb 1763 Church yard Altar tomb In memory of Joseph CHAPPELL of this parish who died 12 April 1741 aged 61. Also of He.... his wife who died 10 October 1762 aged 85. Cheers Carole

Hi Carolyn "I have the following in my records on Jane. marriage Jane 21 Feb 1725 Bishops trans. Oldbury on the Hill by correspondence with Parish??" I have seen something like this before and its another Parish informing the home parish of a marriage taking place perhaps the vicar included it incase the bishop thought he had married them and not paid him his dues, and the death must show us that Nathaniel b,1700 married Sarah BENCE. there was a Jane HOPKINS born in nearby Tetbury but I think she probably was a HOTKINS I assumed this was a typo as so many HOPKINS in Oldbury on the Hill but as we do have that name for certain localy and the rest seems correct if its in the Bishops transcripts. regards Robert Visit my web pages at http://www.hawkesburyhistory.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 3:29 PM Subject: [HWK] Re Chappell > Hi > I have the following in my records on Jane. marriage Jane 21 Feb 1725 > Bishops trans. Oldbury on the Hill by correspondence with Parish?? > > Jane died 8 Nov 1770 Oldbury on the Hill > > There is a Christopher Hopkins having children in Tidenham > Jane Hopkins 13 Mar 1705/Christopher 9 May 1714/Eliz27 May 1700/Mary 2 > Jan 1715/John22 Jan 1720/Comfort5 May 1723/Sarah 7 Mar 1726 all of Tidenham. > > Where is Tidenham is it close to Oldbury? > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > Please remember when you post messages that SURNAMES should be in CAPITALS. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi everyone, Just to add a little more to this one. I've rechecked the photocopies I have taken of the original Oldbury PRs up to 1740. I can report that there is definitely NOT an entry for the marriage of Jane to Nathaniel CHAPPELL registered in 1725. The Registers around this time are a little patchy with no entries for the years just prior to 1724 and they only restart again properly in late 1724. There also seems to be a gap with no entries between the burial of John Harris on 29/04/1724 and the burial of Timothy Sumpsion of Leicester on 16/04/1725. It could be that whereas the original PRs are lacking, BTs are in existence which fill in some of the gaps. Either that or the marriage did not take place in Oldbury. The relevant entry for the Sarah Bence marriage reads "Nathaniell Chappell of this Parish & Sarah Bence of ye Parish of Alderley were married banns being Publishd Jan: 24: 1731-2 Can't help with the which Nathaniel married who question. Would looking at the names of children help? Cheers Sue In a message dated 01/12/2003 07:56:02 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Hi Gwen, Doug, and Sue > The IGI entry is a "patrons" entry It is probably correct and Nathaniel > married a Jane HOPKINS there was a likely candidate at nearby Tetbury as Sue > says the birth at Oldbury does say Jane is wife of Nathaniel, I wonder if > she dies and Nathaniel remarried Sarah BENCE on 24 Jan 1731the register says > Sarah was from Alderley the trouble is we have 2 Nathaniels one born 1700 > and the other 1703 did they both survive are they seperate marriages? > Nathaniels Will has no mention of a Wife so we should have a death of Jane > or Sarah . > regards > Robert > Visit my web pages at http://www.hawkesburyhistory.co.uk > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 2:56 AM > Subject: Re: [HWK] Nathaniel CHAPPELL / Jane HOPKINS > > > >Just checked the IGI and find a record for Nathaniel CHAPPEL marriage to > Jane > >HOTKINS > >February 21, 1725 Oldbury On The Hill (Note the Ho"T"kins) > > > >Children listed as > >John November 29, 1726 Oldbury > >Ann July 4, 1728 Didmartin > >Sarah March 3, 1730 Oldbury > >Mary February 9, 1732 Oldbury > >Christopher January 16, 1734 Didmartin > >William August 21, 1737 Didmartin and > >Nathaniel January 11, 1740 Didmartin. > > > >They list Nathaniel born about 1701 Oldbury and Jane born about 1705 > Oldbury > > > >Under Other Events there is a probate date of April 8, 1782.(Nathaniel) > > > >THEN there is another marriage for Nathaniel CHAPPEL January 24, 1731 > Oldbury > >On The Hill to SARAH BENCE born about 1711 of Alderley, Gloucester > Children > >listed as None. > > > >Does anyone have a death date for Jane Chappel? > > > >Thanks, Gwen Lamie > > > > > >==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > >Please remember when you post messages that SURNAMES should be in > CAPITALS. >

Hi Maurice Its the IGI record thats in question its not an official transcript from the register but from a batch no A459152 a group of marriages submitted by a LDS member the marriages are closely connected to this area of research and on the whole correct and rather than Jane being a HOPKINS she could well be a HOTKINS as it says we have a marriage entry for Hawkesbury of a Jane HOTKINS to Giles TROTMAN 9 Sep 1755 and HOTKINS births in Wickwar abt the time we would expect for Jane so perhaps somewhere there is a marriage? would 1725 be to early for a none conformist. regards Robert Visit my web pages at http://www.hawkesburyhistory.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maurice Catt" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [HWK] Nathaniel CHAPPELL / Jane HOPKINS > Robert, Sue, All, > I have just checked my IGI Records and under HODGSKINS I find the > following entry :- > JANE HOTKINS m NATHANIEL CHAPPELL > 21 Feb 1725 Oldbury - on - the - hill. > Hope this sorts out your problems, > Maurice > > > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > Please remember when you post messages that SURNAMES should be in CAPITALS. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

Hi Forgot one child WILLIAM CHAPPELL 20 Jul 1718...I don't know if all are children of the same CHRISTOPHER CHAPPELL as there is a 20 year span.? Regards Carolyn Ostler [email protected]