Still misspelt even if written as heard! Brian

But that is how we always pronounced it at KLB School,... isn't it Robert? (Or don't you remember Peter Gulwell from Cromhall?) Marilyn -----Original Message----- From: Brian Morgan [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 15 January 2004 09:18 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [HWK] 1901 census stray - TUDOR Thanks for that Carole and Robert! Here they are in 1881 with Mary Ann's brother George in tow, name misspelt as GOWELL at Pains Hill, Limpsfield Surrey. Household Record 1881 British Census Search results | Download Previous Household Next Household ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability George TUDOR Head M Male 23 Stowe, Gloucester, England Carter Mary TUDOR Wife M Female 22 Hawkesbury Upton, Gloucester, England George GOWELL Bro In Law U Male 19 Hawkesbury Upton, Gloucester, England Farm Laborer ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== When replying to messages please make sure to remove ALL the "Re: and Hawks" bits in the subject line as otherwise these will be repeated. ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Hi Everyone, I've found the wills of John & Jone Neate of Nettleton, and this confirms that they WERE the parents of Margaret Neate who married Lawrence Alway. Sue, Thanks for the offer of the will, but I think it's a sister in law of Margaret and I don't think I'll trace this line down... Regards Jenny [email protected] wrote: > > Hello Jenny, > > I can't help you with Margaret Neate's father but I have just remembered that > I have a copy of the will of Alice Neate, widow of Nettleton, Wilts dated > 1639. > > If this is of any use to anyone I am more than happy to pass on a copy. I do > not have a transcript but the following surnames appear: LONGE, WATTS > (Tamsen & Samuell), GOODENOUGH, MESSITER. > > Best wishes > > Sue Sissons > Hemel Hempstead > > Gloucs & Wilts Interests > > BALCH - Chippenham > BROWN - ? > BROWNING - Woodchester > CHAPPELL - Lyneham, Rendcombe, North Cerney, Oldbury, Hawkesbury > CHURCH - Cranham > COOPER - ? > DIZEN - ? > GRIFFIN - Rendcombe, Brimpsfield, Shipton Olliffe, Whittington > HIPWORTH - Chippenham, Salisbury > IDOLLES - Oldbury > JORDAN - Brimpsfield, Elkstone > ROBERTS - ? > SMITH - Rendcombe, Withington > STEPHENS - Salisbury > TERRET - Elkstone > TEST - Cheltenham > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > When replying to messages please make sure to remove ALL the "Re: and Hawks" bits in the subject line as otherwise these will be repeated. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Thanks for that Carole and Robert! Here they are in 1881 with Mary Ann's brother George in tow, name misspelt as GOWELL at Pains Hill, Limpsfield Surrey. Household Record 1881 British Census Search results | Download Previous Household Next Household ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability George TUDOR Head M Male 23 Stowe, Gloucester, England Carter Mary TUDOR Wife M Female 22 Hawkesbury Upton, Gloucester, England George GOWELL Bro In Law U Male 19 Hawkesbury Upton, Gloucester, England Farm Laborer

Hi Carole George TUDOR married Mary Ann GULLY bap 1858 Hawkesbury, the daughter of Joseph GULLY/GULWELL and Jane BAKER they married 1880 at Thornbury regards Robert Visit my web pages at http://www.hawkesburyhistory.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "anthony sharp" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 9:00 PM Subject: [HWK] 1901 census stray - TUDOR > At Histfield, Ham & Stone, GLS > > Schediule no 68 > > George L TUDOR HD M 44 Ag Lab Glos Berkeley > Mary " Wife 45 - Gllos Hawkesbury Upton > Arthur L " Son S 15 Ag Lab " Purton, Berkeley > William R " " S 14 farm Servant Stone > Ann M " Dau 10 Histfield > Samuel J " Son 9 " > Catherine " Dau 2 " > > Does anyone know Mary's maiden name? > > Carole > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > Please remember when you post messages that SURNAMES should be in CAPITALS. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

At Histfield, Ham & Stone, GLS Schediule no 68 George L TUDOR HD M 44 Ag Lab Glos Berkeley Mary " Wife 45 - Gllos Hawkesbury Upton Arthur L " Son S 15 Ag Lab " Purton, Berkeley William R " " S 14 farm Servant Stone Ann M " Dau 10 Histfield Samuel J " Son 9 " Catherine " Dau 2 " Does anyone know Mary's maiden name? Carole

May be of interest to someone Gloucester 1851 Census Carters Yard St Nicholas Gloucester William Pullen Porter Born Hillesley age 40 Sarah Born The Leigh Wilts age 41 William son age 18 porter born Hillesley Emma 14 Nathaniel 12 David 9 Jasper 2

Hello Jenny, I can't help you with Margaret Neate's father but I have just remembered that I have a copy of the will of Alice Neate, widow of Nettleton, Wilts dated 1639. If this is of any use to anyone I am more than happy to pass on a copy. I do not have a transcript but the following surnames appear: LONGE, WATTS (Tamsen & Samuell), GOODENOUGH, MESSITER. Best wishes Sue Sissons Hemel Hempstead Gloucs & Wilts Interests BALCH - Chippenham BROWN - ? BROWNING - Woodchester CHAPPELL - Lyneham, Rendcombe, North Cerney, Oldbury, Hawkesbury CHURCH - Cranham COOPER - ? DIZEN - ? GRIFFIN - Rendcombe, Brimpsfield, Shipton Olliffe, Whittington HIPWORTH - Chippenham, Salisbury IDOLLES - Oldbury JORDAN - Brimpsfield, Elkstone ROBERTS - ? SMITH - Rendcombe, Withington STEPHENS - Salisbury TERRET - Elkstone TEST - Cheltenham

Hi everyone, According to the information I have in my database, the father of Margaret Neate (who married Lawrence Alway in Nettleton in 1584), is a Thomas Neate. However I have recently bought a copy of the British Vital Records Index V2, and it lists baptisms for Nettleton from 1557-1663 and marriages 1583-1599 and 1605. These seem to indicate Margaret's father was John (and her mother Jone). Does anyone know where the father of Thomas came from? The family looks to me like John Neate & Jone Jone, c 4 May 1560 Thomas, c 20 Jul 1561 m Alice Smarte 19 Feb 1598 Margaret, c 7 Apr 1564 m Lawrence Allwey 8 Feb 1584 Richard, c 2 Apr 1566 m Bridgett Parrie 6 Jan 1592 George, c 25 Jan 1567 m Harriot Richards 28 Dec 1605 William, c 27 Feb 1569 John, c 23 Mar 1571 Robert, c 24 Jul 1573 Dorothie, c 14 Oct 1576 m John Beaker 27 Feb 1597 Agnes, c 18 Oct 1579 Any comments? Regards Jenny Joyce

Hi Sue and Happy New Year! Sorry to have to disappoint you but this Jane PRITCHARD is the daughter of Isaac PRITCHARD & Anna (nee N/K). Jane was bapt in 1796 (but I don't have a note of where - possibly Marshfield) and was buried at Hawkesbury June 14 1847.. Isaac's father, Samuel married in Old Sodbury in 1761 to Mary KEEPEN. Maybe they had a son John?. Perhaps someone else knows the answer. Best wishes Carole ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [HWK] WATTS, TOGHILL > Hi Carole/All > > I must ask ...... > > Can anyone tell me anything about Jane PRITCHARD? When/where was she born, > when did she marry John WATTS. > > She's not one of mine, but I am curious about a Jane PRITCHARD (nee KING) > whose husband (John PRITCHARD) appears to have disappeared fairly shortly after > they married in Old Sodbury in 1795. They moved to West Kington, Wilts and had > one son William. Jane then seems to have taken up with an unknown > 'protector' by whom she has 6 illegitimate children between 1801 and 1809. She then > disappears from the scene and I have been unable to trace her. > > I would really like to know what happened to this lady so if anyone > recognises her please, please could you satisfy my curiosity. > > Best wishes to all > > Sue Sissons > Hemel Hempstead > > Gloucs & Wilts Interests > > BALCH - Chippenham > BROWN - ? > BROWNING - Woodchester > CHAPPELL - Lyneham, Rendcombe, North Cerney, Oldbury, Hawkesbury > CHURCH - Cranham > COOPER - ? > DIZEN - ? > GRIFFIN - Rendcombe, Brimpsfield, Shipton Olliffe, Whittington > HIPWORTH - Chippenham, Salisbury > IDOLLES - Oldbury > JORDAN - Brimpsfield, Elkstone > ROBERTS - ? > SMITH - Rendcombe, Withington > STEPHENS - Salisbury > TERRET - Elkstone > TEST - Cheltenham > > ______________________________

Bob Thanks for the 1871 census I don't think I had that one. The gene pool is not quite as bad as it looks. Daniel & Sarah WATTS were not related except by marriage. Daniel was from the Didmarton lot whilst Sarah was a Hawkesbury girl. I have a sneaking suspicion though, that back in the 17th century they all originated in Old Sodbury. Jane Pritchard married John Watts of Hawkesbury by licence 20 July 1819 at Marshfield. . Isaac WATTS's wife was Sarah, surname unknown. According to the 1881 & 1901 census their children were 1. Alfred b bef 1863 Hawkesbury who married Ruth b abt 1864 Doynton and had a daughter Alice b abt 1891 2. Edwin b baf 1865 at Hawkesbury or Kilcott but chr. March 2 1870 at St Giles Hillesley. He married Annie L.... who was born abt 1872 in ?Berkeley and they had a son John E WATTS b abt 1900 in Kilcott. Edwin died Jan 10 1934 and his wife Annie died Nov 8 1982. Both are buried at Hillesley 3. Alice Watts Christening: March 2, 1870 St. Giles, Hillesley In 1881 census shown as niece of Elizabeth WALBRIDGE at WALCOT Bath Elizabeth is a widow born Hawkesbury about 1823 - I don't know who she is. Also there is Mary J WINBOW, b abt 1853 Hawkesbury. I believe she is the daughter of Robert WINBOW and Hannah/Anna Jane WATTS who was also the daughter of John WATTS & Jane PRITCHARD. This would make Alice WATTS & Mary Jane WINBOW 1st cousins! New readers start here! Carole ----- Original Message ----- From: "R.P. & A.L.Lawrence" <[email protected]> To: "anthony sharp" <[email protected]> Cc: "Hawkesbury RootsWeb List" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 9:10 AM Subject: RE: WATTS, TOGHILL > Carole > > Thanks for that information. > > In 1871, Mary TOGHILL is living at Upper Kilcott, Tresham (age 40, > housekeeper, daughter-in-law), with Daniel WATTS (age 60, farmer of 3 acres) > and Daniel's son Hugh WATTS (otherwise Hugh Watts TOGHILL). Hugh is > described as age 27, common carrier. > > Daniel was the widower of Mary's mother Jane, who started life as a WATTS, > became a TOGHILL, and then became a WATTS again when she married Daniel. > > So Mary TOGHILL was a first cousin once removed to Daniel WATTS, but also > his step-daughter. > > Huhg Watts TOGHILL had parents Daniel WATTS and Jane WATTS, and grandparents > Daniel WATTS, Sarah WATTS, Hugh WATTS and Betty JACKSON. Not much of a gene > pool there. Sarah and Hugh were brother and sister. > > Do you have a marriage date and place for John WATTS and Jane PRITCHARD? > > And do you have a name for Isaac WATTS's wife? There are two sons (Alfred > and Edwin) with him in 1881. > > Bob > > ************************************** > R.P.& A.L.Lawrence > The Hazels, Sheepwood Road, > Bristol, BS10 7BS, U.K. > Phone: 0117 9504314 > ************************************** > > ¦-----Original Message----- > ¦From: anthony sharp [mailto:[email protected]] > ¦Sent: 10 January 2004 21:25 > ¦To: R.P. & A.L.Lawrence > ¦Cc: [email protected] > ¦Subject: WATTS, TOGHILL > ¦ > ¦ > ¦Bob > ¦I don't want to muddy the water still further but... > ¦ > ¦Thomas TOGHILL & Jane WATTS' daughter Mary (born 1825 Iron Acton) is the > ¦unmarried Housekeeper to the widowed Isaac WATTS, Farmer of Lower Kilcott, > ¦in 1881. Isaac Watts was the son of Jane WATTS's brother John > ¦WATTS (butcher > ¦of Hawkesbury) and his wife Jane PRITCHARD. Therefore Mary TOGHILL & Isaac > ¦WATTS were 1st cousins. > ¦ > ¦Just thought you'd like to know about this working relationship! > ¦ > ¦Carole > ¦ > ¦ > ¦ > ¦ >

Carole Thanks for that information. In 1871, Mary TOGHILL is living at Upper Kilcott, Tresham (age 40, housekeeper, daughter-in-law), with Daniel WATTS (age 60, farmer of 3 acres) and Daniel's son Hugh WATTS (otherwise Hugh Watts TOGHILL). Hugh is described as age 27, common carrier. Daniel was the widower of Mary's mother Jane, who started life as a WATTS, became a TOGHILL, and then became a WATTS again when she married Daniel. So Mary TOGHILL was a first cousin once removed to Daniel WATTS, but also his step-daughter. Huhg Watts TOGHILL had parents Daniel WATTS and Jane WATTS, and grandparents Daniel WATTS, Sarah WATTS, Hugh WATTS and Betty JACKSON. Not much of a gene pool there. Sarah and Hugh were brother and sister. Do you have a marriage date and place for John WATTS and Jane PRITCHARD? And do you have a name for Isaac WATTS's wife? There are two sons (Alfred and Edwin) with him in 1881. Bob ************************************** R.P.& A.L.Lawrence The Hazels, Sheepwood Road, Bristol, BS10 7BS, U.K. Phone: 0117 9504314 ************************************** ¦-----Original Message----- ¦From: anthony sharp [mailto:[email protected]] ¦Sent: 10 January 2004 21:25 ¦To: R.P. & A.L.Lawrence ¦Cc: [email protected] ¦Subject: WATTS, TOGHILL ¦ ¦ ¦Bob ¦I don't want to muddy the water still further but... ¦ ¦Thomas TOGHILL & Jane WATTS' daughter Mary (born 1825 Iron Acton) is the ¦unmarried Housekeeper to the widowed Isaac WATTS, Farmer of Lower Kilcott, ¦in 1881. Isaac Watts was the son of Jane WATTS's brother John ¦WATTS (butcher ¦of Hawkesbury) and his wife Jane PRITCHARD. Therefore Mary TOGHILL & Isaac ¦WATTS were 1st cousins. ¦ ¦Just thought you'd like to know about this working relationship! ¦ ¦Carole ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦

Hi Carole/All I must ask ...... Can anyone tell me anything about Jane PRITCHARD? When/where was she born, when did she marry John WATTS. She's not one of mine, but I am curious about a Jane PRITCHARD (nee KING) whose husband (John PRITCHARD) appears to have disappeared fairly shortly after they married in Old Sodbury in 1795. They moved to West Kington, Wilts and had one son William. Jane then seems to have taken up with an unknown 'protector' by whom she has 6 illegitimate children between 1801 and 1809. She then disappears from the scene and I have been unable to trace her. I would really like to know what happened to this lady so if anyone recognises her please, please could you satisfy my curiosity. Best wishes to all Sue Sissons Hemel Hempstead Gloucs & Wilts Interests BALCH - Chippenham BROWN - ? BROWNING - Woodchester CHAPPELL - Lyneham, Rendcombe, North Cerney, Oldbury, Hawkesbury CHURCH - Cranham COOPER - ? DIZEN - ? GRIFFIN - Rendcombe, Brimpsfield, Shipton Olliffe, Whittington HIPWORTH - Chippenham, Salisbury IDOLLES - Oldbury JORDAN - Brimpsfield, Elkstone ROBERTS - ? SMITH - Rendcombe, Withington STEPHENS - Salisbury TERRET - Elkstone TEST - Cheltenham

Bob I don't want to muddy the water still further but... Thomas TOGHILL & Jane WATTS' daughter Mary (born 1825 Iron Acton) is the unmarried Housekeeper to the widowed Isaac WATTS, Farmer of Lower Kilcott, in 1881. Isaac Watts was the son of Jane WATTS's brother John WATTS (butcher of Hawkesbury) and his wife Jane PRITCHARD. Therefore Mary TOGHILL & Isaac WATTS were 1st cousins. Just thought you'd like to know about this working relationship! Carole

Hi everybody, I am interested in any information concerning JOHN GLEED who according to an IGI entry married JOYCE PRITCHAD ( possiby PRITCHARD ) in Hawkesbury on 1-Apr-1816. Mike.

Bob, This lot have me really puzzled! The CROOMs are not in Wiltshire in 1851 either. A Henry Albert CROOM was buried in Mangotsfield 3 Jan 1840 age 36 but who knows whether that's him! I did wonder whether Henry CROOM might have died and Elizabeth remarried, or both of them had died but there's nothing on the NBI or the Gloucestershire Burials Index. FreeBMD didn't come up with anything useful either. I shall ponder on! Many thanks Carole ----- Original Message ----- From: "R.P. & A.L.Lawrence" <[email protected]> To: "anthony sharp" <[email protected]> Cc: "Hawkesbury RootsWeb List" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 10:13 AM Subject: RE: WATTS, TOGHILL > Carole > > I checked the marriages of the two TOGHILL witnesses at the Bristol Record > Office yesterday morning. Some more light was thrown. > > There was no additional information on the Henry CROOM/Elizabeth TOGHILL > entry. I have been unable to find a Henry CROOM with wife Elizabeth in the > Beavington 1851 census index, or in the 1881 census index. Witnesses were > William Naish (?) and Sarah George, who made a mark. > > In the HOWELLS/TOGHILL wedding John HOWELLS is shown as a carpenter with a > father as a farmer. Mary Ann TOGHILL's father is said to be Stephen TOGHILL, > victualler. This would make it likely that she is the daughter of the > Stephen TOGHILL who was buried age 44 at Downend on 24th June 1833 and > recorded as being of Horse Shoe Inn, Downend. Stephen was married at > Hawkesbury 3rd May 1817 to Elizabeth WATTS. (I knew we would get another > WATTS/TOGHILL marriage into this thread somewhere). Witnesses were Llewellin > Cole and Henry Naish (the parish clerk). > > I found the following in the Beavington 1851 transcription for St Michael's > Bristol > > HOWELLS John 40 Carpenter & Joiner Carm: > Mary 27 Bradford Wiltshire > John 6 days Bristol > > and the following in 1881 > > Dwelling: 3 Stile Lane > Census Place: Bristol St Michael, Gloucester, England > Source: FHL Film 1341596 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2476 Folio 79 Page > 15 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > John HOWELLS M 70 M LLanstephan, Carmarthen, Wales > Rel: Head > Occ: Carpenter > Mary HOWELLS M 57 F Bradford, Wiltshire, England > Rel: Wife > John HOWELLS M 26 M Bristol > Rel: Son > Occ: Warehouseman Draper > Martha E. HOWELLS U 22 F Bristol > Rel: Daur > Occ: Dressmaker > Ages HOWELLS U 15 F Bristol > Rel: Daur > Occ: General Servant > Agnes Flo. HOWELLS 3 F Bristol > Rel: Gd Daur > Rose HOWELLS 1 F Bristol > Rel: Gd Daur > > And there I think we must leave them. > > Bob >

Hello everyone. On Aug 16th 1884 John Maurice WATTS, 29, Bootmaker, of Hawkesbury Upton, illegitimate son of Ann WATTS, married Emily MILSOM, 28 of Luckington, dau. of William MILSOM, farmer.at Luckington. John Maurice WATTS' mother was Ann, daughter of Maurice WATTS & his 2nd wife Ann TUCK. In 1881 John Maurice WATTS was with his uncle William GULWELL and family at High St, Hawkesbury. I believe that Emily MILSOM may have been the daughter of William MILSOM and his wife Ann who are at Luckington, Wilts in 1881. Ann MILSOM was born about 1835 in Upton Hawkesabury (1881 census) A William MILSOM married Mary Ann BOULTON 27 Oct 1855 at Hawkesbury aged 36 and 23 respectively. Can anyone confim that Mary Ann BOULTON is the Ann shown as wife to William MILSOM on the 1881 census at Luckington please? Any help appreciated, as ever! Best wishes Carole

Carole I checked the marriages of the two TOGHILL witnesses at the Bristol Record Office yesterday morning. Some more light was thrown. There was no additional information on the Henry CROOM/Elizabeth TOGHILL entry. I have been unable to find a Henry CROOM with wife Elizabeth in the Beavington 1851 census index, or in the 1881 census index. Witnesses were William Naish (?) and Sarah George, who made a mark. In the HOWELLS/TOGHILL wedding John HOWELLS is shown as a carpenter with a father as a farmer. Mary Ann TOGHILL's father is said to be Stephen TOGHILL, victualler. This would make it likely that she is the daughter of the Stephen TOGHILL who was buried age 44 at Downend on 24th June 1833 and recorded as being of Horse Shoe Inn, Downend. Stephen was married at Hawkesbury 3rd May 1817 to Elizabeth WATTS. (I knew we would get another WATTS/TOGHILL marriage into this thread somewhere). Witnesses were Llewellin Cole and Henry Naish (the parish clerk). I found the following in the Beavington 1851 transcription for St Michael's Bristol HOWELLS John 40 Carpenter & Joiner Carm: Mary 27 Bradford Wiltshire John 6 days Bristol and the following in 1881 Dwelling: 3 Stile Lane Census Place: Bristol St Michael, Gloucester, England Source: FHL Film 1341596 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2476 Folio 79 Page 15 Marr Age Sex Birthplace John HOWELLS M 70 M LLanstephan, Carmarthen, Wales Rel: Head Occ: Carpenter Mary HOWELLS M 57 F Bradford, Wiltshire, England Rel: Wife John HOWELLS M 26 M Bristol Rel: Son Occ: Warehouseman Draper Martha E. HOWELLS U 22 F Bristol Rel: Daur Occ: Dressmaker Ages HOWELLS U 15 F Bristol Rel: Daur Occ: General Servant Agnes Flo. HOWELLS 3 F Bristol Rel: Gd Daur Rose HOWELLS 1 F Bristol Rel: Gd Daur And there I think we must leave them. Bob ************************************** R.P.& A.L.Lawrence The Hazels, Sheepwood Road, Bristol, BS10 7BS, U.K. Phone: 0117 9504314 ************************************** ¦-----Original Message----- ¦From: anthony sharp [mailto:[email protected]] ¦Sent: 17 December 2003 20:36 ¦To: R.P. & A.L.Lawrence ¦Cc: [email protected]; Kay Buchanan ¦Subject: WATTS, TOGHILL ¦ ¦ ¦Hello Bob, ¦I thought I was confused before! ¦I noticed the 2 WATTS/TOGHILL marriages on the BVRI but never thought they ¦were connected. Silly me! ¦ ¦The 2 witnesses were also TOGHILLs. Elizabeth TOGHILL married ¦Henry CROOM 27 ¦Oct 1834 Temple Bristol Mary Ann TOGHILL married John HOWELLS 22 Mar 1846 ¦St Philip & St Jacob Bristol. The fathers for the latter were John ¦HOWELLS & ¦Stephen TOGHILL.(Both marriages from the BVRI) ¦ ¦Do you have a birth date for Jane TOGHILL daughter of Thomas & Jane (nee ¦WATTS) please?. I don't have a record of her. I know we have speculated on ¦who George WATTS married before when we were trying to find the connection ¦with Rose COOPER age 10 who was staying with George WATTS & his ¦wife Jane on ¦the 1861 census. jane's surname then was not known. ¦ ¦Looks as if another little puzzle may be solved (fingers crossed). ¦ ¦Many thanks ¦Carole ¦ ¦----- Original Message ----- ¦From: "R.P. & A.L.Lawrence" <[email protected]> ¦To: <[email protected]> ¦Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 7:17 PM ¦Subject: [HWK] WATTS, TOGHILL ¦ ¦ ¦> Especially for Carole, who will like this. ¦> ¦> I went to Bristol Record Office, and checked two TOGHILL ¦marriages. Here ¦> are the details: ¦> ¦> 4th March 1851 St Philip and St Jacob ¦> Daniel WATTS, of full age, bachelor, Dealer of St Philips, father Daniel ¦> WATTS, Dealer ¦> married ¦> Jane TOGHILL, of full age, widow, of St Philips, Father Hugh ¦WATTS, Farmer ¦> Marriage by banns. Witnesses were Elizabeth Croom and Henry Naish. Henry ¦> Naish was a witness of most weddings at this church at this time. ¦> ¦> Jane was the daughter of Hugh WATTS and Betty JACKSON. She previously ¦> married Thomas TOGHILL at Horsley in 1822. Jane and Daniel were first ¦> cousins. ¦> ¦> ¦> 26th April 1856 St Michael on the Mount ¦> George WATTS, of full age, bachelor, mason of Griffin Lane. ¦Father Thomas ¦> WATTS, Farmer ¦> married ¦> Jane TOGHILL, of full age, spinster of Old Park. Father Thomas TOGHILL, ¦> Farmer ¦> Marriage by banns. Witnesses were W.T.Sladen and Mary Ann Howells. ¦> W.T.Sladen was a witness at most weddings at this church at this time. ¦> Jane and George were first cousins once removed ¦> ¦> The second Jane TOGHILL was the daughter of the first Jane. Daniel WATTS ¦and ¦> George WATTS were first cousins. ¦> ¦> Other relationships are too complicated to think about until after ¦> Christmas. ¦> ¦> It is interesting that the addresses and occupations differ from those in ¦> the census. Jane and Daniel were in Bristol on 4th March 1851, but back ¦> living in Oldbury for the census on 30th March. He was a farmer by then. ¦> ¦> Bob Lawrence ¦> ¦> ************************************** ¦> R.P.& A.L.Lawrence ¦> The Hazels, Sheepwood Road, ¦> Bristol, BS10 7BS, U.K. ¦> Phone: 0117 9504314 ¦> ************************************** ¦> ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦

on 07/1/04 9:47 am, Lee Paltridge at [email protected] wrote: > William WALLINGTON died 30th March 1865, Hillsley Hawkesbury, Male, 86 > years, Carpenter, of Decay of Nature. Certified. Informant: The mark of > William Thompson, in Attendance, of Hillsley Hawkesbury. > (Who was he ?) Lee William Thompson of Hillesley was Martha Ashby's cousin's son (b 1803) Her cousin was William Thompson also (1771 - 1842) His father (William Thompson!) (1736 - 1827) was the brother of Ann Thomson, Martha's mother. Guess what their father's name was? (1704 - 1767) If you want more details mail me direct, Your distant cousin Doug Thompson

Hi All I’ve been lurking quietly in the gum trees for a while, but thought I should share some verified dates for various cousins to put on the interconnected family charts. I now have the certificates for all these events relating to three generations of my Wallington ancestors. My 3x great grandparents were William WALLINGTON and Martha ASHBY. Their death certificates arrived today. William WALLINGTON died 30th March 1865, Hillsley Hawkesbury, Male, 86 years, Carpenter, of Decay of Nature. Certified. Informant: The mark of William Thompson, in Attendance, of Hillsley Hawkesbury. (Who was he ?) Martha (ASHBY) WALLINGTON died 9th September 1854, Hillsley Hawkesbury, Female,75 years, Wife of William Wallington, Carpenter. of Heart disease, Many years. Dropsy six months. Certified. Informant. The mark of Hannah Stinchcomb Present at the death, of Upton, Hawkesbury. (I know who she is! Their daughter b1813 who married John Stinchcombe). I’m sure I gave you the death place and dates for my 2x great grandparents Lewis WALLINGTON (son of the above) and Ann WISE before, but here they are again - both died at Horse Shoe Lane, Thornbury, Lewis 21 Nov 1885, and Ann 1 March 1896. My great grandmother was their daughter Lucy WALLINGTON. She was born Falfield 28 January 1846 (On censuses she is shown as being born variously at Thornbury, Cromhall and Falfield, but Falfield is on the birth certificate). Lucy WALLINGTON married Henry John CLARK, Policeman, St Pauls, Bristol 7 Sept 1868. Lucy died 23 St Johns Road, Bristol, 19 July 1909. Henry Clark (born St Pauls, Montpelier Bristol 4.9.1843) died 26 May 1919 at Stapleton. (Lived Prospect Avenue, Fishponds) Now I know where all these places are, I feel right at home on the list. In June I went to stay with a Clark cousin near Bath, whose patient husband drove us to all the family places I had so far turned up on our tree - Hawkesbury, Hillesley, Wooton Under Edge on one jaunt. Thornbury (WISE, CHILD, COSSHAM, WITCHELL etc), Frampton on Severn (ROE) and Arlingham (ROWLES) on the next, and over to Newnham (BOWYER and PRICE/PREECE) and Littledean (CLARK) on another day - and lots more in Bristol, around Somerset and Devon too. The weather was glorious and England looking its absolute best - Wow! As we drove through Hawkesbury Upton, I noted the position of the Beaufort Arms so that next time I come to England, I’ll try to time it for a Get Together, and I’ll know just where to come. We nearly missed the turning to Hawkesbury as the signpost was very small, and our attention was on the monument, but we backed up carefully and dived down the unexpectedly steep hill, and through the tunnel of greenery to discover the lovely church. Andy Wallington and I managed to meet briefly - wonderful to link our families again after 150 years or so. Thanks to the List. All the best for 2004. Lee Perth Oz