> > Hi All > > I'd like to find out something about Hawkesbury's General Practitioner in > > 1881, William Isadore COX. > > > > On the 1881 census he is at High St, Hawkesbury age 57, born Morelborow, > > Wilts.(In 1891 this is Marlboro) > > > > His Wife, Sarah Ann COX is 46 born H Upton and there is a stepson > Llewellyn > > WATTS age 11 born H Upton & daur Ellen WATTS age 7 born H Upton. > > > > Visiting the family and all born in Bristol are Ellen WATTS 43 M, > Margaret > > BARTLETT 14 and Eli WATTS 5. > > > > In 1891 William Isadore COX, GP Retired, Sarah Ann COX, Wife, Mary Ann > WATTS > > COX 17 Public Teacher National School & John Birham COX Son 37 Insurance > > agent born London are at Weston Villa, Hawkesbury. > > > > The 1901 census index has William COX, born Marlboro, Wilts age 77 as > Union > > Medical Officer, Hawkesbury. > > A Sarah WATTS age 66 is also at Hawkesbury but on a different census page. > > (I would download these but my vouchers have just run out and I don't > like > > using my credit card for this!) > > > > If anyone can fill in any gaps for me or tell me more about the Medical > > facilities in Hawkesbury I would be most grateful. > > > > Thanks > > Carole > > > > > > > > >

> Bob > I can identify Sarah Ann WATTS for you. from the 1861 census. > > Long St, Hawkesbury Upton > > Hugh WATTS HD M 54 Ag Lab (son of John WATTS & Hester CHAPPELL) > Margaret " Wife 55 (nee HYDE. 1851 census says born Rodborough) > Thomas " Son 29 Ag lab > Sarah A " Daur 26 > Eli " Son 17 Ag lab > Daniel " Son 13 Ag lab > Elizabeth ?J " Daur 11 > Naomi Ann " Daur 5 Scholar > Ann E " Daur 2 > > All born Hawkesbury Upton. > > Although Naomi & Ann are shown as daughters of Hugh & Margaret, they are > clearly not! > > Sarah Ann WATTS 's other daughter Ann Elizabeth was bapt at Hawkesbury May > 27 1860 (IGI) > > I haven't found Sarah Ann WATTS in 1851 or 1881 yet. > > Thanks for the TOGHILLs I'll add them to my ever growing collection for this > name! > > Carole > > >

Carole Thanks for the information about Isaac. I understand that Sally is generally a diminutive of Sarah, like Tel and Terry, Del and Derek. There is also a Naomi Ann WATTS, daughter of Sarah Ann, baptised at Hawkesbury 31st May 1857, and I suppose this could be the same mother. However, there seems to be no suitable Sarah WATTS on my files. Following up all the TOGHILLs, I came across a John TOGHILL living in Redcliffe and Bedminster and worked out that he was the son of the Thomas TOGHILL was living at Oldbury/Didmarton in 1881 and 1901. John TOGHILL was born at Allington, Wilts and married Mary Jane ORCHARD of Yate in Clifton R.D.April quarter 1874. I cannot find him in 1881, but in 1891 he was living at Evered's Yard, St Mary Redcliffe and working as an ostler, while in 1901 he was at Sligo Cottage, St John's Lane, Bristol and working as a carter. In 1891, living with John and Mary was Mary's brother Joseph ORCHARD, 33, Brother-in-law, widower, ostler, born Yate; Mary J Orchard, 12, scholar; Clara Orchard, 2 and Elizabeth Orchard, 8, scholar. The three children were born in Birmingham. Clara Orchard was still living with the TOGHILLs in 1901. Well, it may help someone. Bob Lawrence ************************************** R.P.& A.L.Lawrence The Hazels, Sheepwood Road, Bristol, BS10 7BS, U.K. Phone: 0117 9504314 ************************************** -----Original Message----- From: anthony sharp [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 13 February 2004 07:57 To: [email protected] Subject: [HWK] Isaac WATTS Bob I don't have much at all on Isaac & his family. FreeBMD has a marriage to Elizabeth BARNFIELD Sept Qtr 1868 Tetbury 6a 527. A William James BARNFIELD married, same place same quarter same ref. to Elizabeth WHITE. Presumably he was a brother. On the 1851 census the BARNFIELD family are at Gumstool Hill, Tetbury, father William is a "Hallier", wife Sarah, children William, Mary & Elizabeth. Sally WATTS has me puzzled. Does anyone know whether Sally is a popular version of something else, like Sarah for example? Re MARQUIS, no I don't know where this originates. Maybe a surname on the wife's side? Another little challenge! Best wishes Carole

Bob I don't have much at all on Isaac & his family. FreeBMD has a marriage to Elizabeth BARNFIELD Sept Qtr 1868 Tetbury 6a 527. A William James BARNFIELD married, same place same quarter same ref. to Elizabeth WHITE. Presumably he was a brother. On the 1851 census the BARNFIELD family are at Gumstool Hill, Tetbury, father William is a "Hallier", wife Sarah, children William, Mary & Elizabeth. Sally WATTS has me puzzled. Does anyone know whether Sally is a popular version of something else, like Sarah for example? Re MARQUIS, no I don't know where this originates. Maybe a surname on the wife's side? Another little challenge! Best wishes Carole ----- Now another question for you. In the Wiltshire 1851 census index, there is an Isaac WATTS, age 8, scholar, born Upton, GLS, living at Malmesbury with James and Sophia AUKLAND as lodger. He is probably the Isaac baptised at Hawkesbury on 20th November 1842, son of Sally WATTS, which then raises the question of who Sally was. Isaac is in the 1881 census as follows: Dwelling: Pond Farm Census Place: Shipton Moyne, Gloucester, England Source: FHL Film 1341616 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2552 Folio 114 Page 10 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Isaac WATTS M 38 M Hawkesbury Upton, Gloucester, England Rel: Head Occ: Shepherd Elizabeth WATTS M 32 F Tetbury, Gloucester, England Rel: Wife Occ: Shepherds Wife William Geo. WATTS 10 M Shipton Moyne, Gloucester, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Anne Flor. Maria WATTS 8 F Shipton Moyne, Gloucester, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Edward Jas. Ernest WATTS 6 M Shipton Moyne, Gloucester, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Alice Sarah Jane WATTS 1 F Shipton Moyne, Gloucester, England Rel: Daur John BARNFIELD U 22 M Tetbury, Gloucester, England Rel: Brother in Law Occ: Farm Servant Also, do you know why Alfred's second name was Marquis? Bob Lawrence

Bob, Thanks. I haven't spotted Hugh & Jane in 1861 yet - but I'll keep on.looking. Carole

Hope someone might just perhaps be able to help. This is a bit of a long shot. A friend is looking at this family. THOMAS FOWLER d. before 1851 Monmouth m. Elizabeth Evans d/o THOMAS EVANS and BETTY b. 22 Aug. 1821..... Little Bedwyn Wilts. Elizabeth Evans b. 1800............. Lideard Wilts. Bapt. SHERSTON MAGNA 20 Apr. 1800....d. Monmouth 1855 She was just wondering/ hopefully if anyone had perhaps heard of this family...... especially Thomas Fowler. With many thanks. Patsy Witchell

Thanks a million for this sharing. Another example of the generosity of researchers worldwide. Something I tripped over the other day. I drove into the cemetery in Dorrigo NSW AUS to see if I could get a good photo of the countryside which is green at the moment. Looked at the grave beside me as I stepped out of the car and yes!! A Hawkesbury connection to the THOMPSON/SHIPWAY and close relative of Gwen Lamie. In Loving Memory of NELLIE HILL AGED 12 1/2 YEARS 17.3.16-10.10.28 LOVED DAUGHTER OF ROBERT & FLORENCE HILL. To those in N America those dates mean 17 Mar 1916 to 10 Oct 1928. The connection is: Samuel THOMPSON/Maria CHAPPEL Wilmot Melhuish THOMPSON/John SHIPWAY Samuel Thompson SHIPWAY/ Helen Jane MAXWELL Florence Nellie Louisa SHIPWAY/Robert HILL Florence Nellie (Nellie) 1916-1928. This is a connection for Doug and probably everyone else in the Hawkesbury area as well. Anne Maye in sunny Armidale .. about 30 + degrees right now and not a cloud in the sky.

Carole I always imagined that cousin marriages made family history easier! I do not really have anything to add, or to suggest, at the present time. There does seem to be quite an age difference between Hugh WATTS and the Jane WATTS you suggested (daughter of George and Anna). I even wondered if Jane was a widow when she married Hugh, and that perhaps her former husband was also a WATTS. We really need to find Hugh and Jane in 1861. Now another question for you. In the Wiltshire 1851 census index, there is an Isaac WATTS, age 8, scholar, born Upton, GLS, living at Malmesbury with James and Sophia AUKLAND as lodger. He is probably the Isaac baptised at Hawkesbury on 20th November 1842, son of Sally WATTS, which then raises the question of who Sally was. Isaac is in the 1881 census as follows: Dwelling: Pond Farm Census Place: Shipton Moyne, Gloucester, England Source: FHL Film 1341616 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2552 Folio 114 Page 10 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Isaac WATTS M 38 M Hawkesbury Upton, Gloucester, England Rel: Head Occ: Shepherd Elizabeth WATTS M 32 F Tetbury, Gloucester, England Rel: Wife Occ: Shepherds Wife William Geo. WATTS 10 M Shipton Moyne, Gloucester, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Anne Flor. Maria WATTS 8 F Shipton Moyne, Gloucester, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Edward Jas. Ernest WATTS 6 M Shipton Moyne, Gloucester, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Alice Sarah Jane WATTS 1 F Shipton Moyne, Gloucester, England Rel: Daur John BARNFIELD U 22 M Tetbury, Gloucester, England Rel: Brother in Law Occ: Farm Servant Also, do you know why Alfred's second name was Marquis? Bob Lawrence ************************************** R.P.& A.L.Lawrence The Hazels, Sheepwood Road, Bristol, BS10 7BS, U.K. Phone: 0117 9504314 ************************************** ¦-----Original Message----- ¦From: anthony sharp [mailto:[email protected]] ¦Sent: 12 February 2004 07:24 ¦To: [email protected] ¦Subject: [HWK] WATTS & WALBRIDGE Part 2 ¦ ¦ ¦Hello List, ¦ ¦Time to return to the WATTS/WALBRIDGE/COOPER/TOGHILL/PRITCHARD melting pot! ¦ ¦My Cousin Kay Buchanan has obtained certificates to confirm some of the ¦retalioships we have been mulling over; Over to him!. ¦ ¦"I have the marriage certificate for Elizabeth WATTS and Henry ¦WALBRIDGE and ¦also the death certificate for Elizabeth. ¦Elizabeth WATTS, daughter of John WATTS and Jane PRITCHARD, married Henry ¦WALBRIDGEe on 28 Dec 1865 at the Parish Church Walcott, Somerset, by ¦licence. Both shown as 'full age'; Elizabeth a Spinster and Henry a ¦Batchelor. Occupation of both shown as 'Lodging Housekeeper'; address of ¦both 'Oxford Row'. Father of Henry was John WALBRIDGE, Coachman. Witnesses ¦were Isaac WATTS and Sarah Hannah WALBRIDGE. ¦ ¦Elizabeth WALBRIDGE (nee WATTS) widow of Henry WALBRIDGE died 7 Jan 1898 at ¦Hillesley, Hawkesbury of Heart Disease and Bronchitis. Informant was Alfred ¦WATTS, nephew of Kilcott, Hawkesbury. ¦ ¦In the 1881 Census residing with Elizabeth (who was a widow at that time) ¦was Alice WATTS, niece aged 11. ¦In the 1891 Census residing with Elizabeth were Alice WATTS 21, single, ¦niece and Arthur WATTS, 22, single, nephew. ¦In the 1881 Census residing with Isaac WATTS were his two sons, Alfred 18 ¦and Edward 16 and Arthur WATTS, nephew, 10, born Slaughterford Wiltshire. ¦ ¦I have the birth certificate for Arthur Hugh WATTS, son of Hugh WATTS ¦Gamekeeper, and Jane WATTS formerly WATTS, born 20 Aug 1869 at ¦Slaughterford, Biddestone, Wiltshire. Birth registered by Jane WATTS. ¦ ¦I assume that Arthur Hugh WATTS, nephew of both Isaac WATTS and Elizabeth ¦WALBRIDGE (nee WATTS), was the son of their brother Hugh (bpt 18/12/1825 ¦Hawkesbury) but I have no record of his marriage to a Jane WATTS ¦or who were ¦the parents of Jane. ¦Have you any details? ¦ ¦Am awaiting the birth certificate for Alice to find out who were her ¦parents - I wonder if she was a sister of Arthur Hugh" ¦ ¦ ¦The End of Kay's message ¦ ¦My thoughts follow:- ¦ ¦1851 census at Upper Wick Hugh WATTS 22 Unm Farm Bailiff. born Hawkesbury ¦Upton. nephew of Anna WATTS(nee PRITCHARD and widow of George , the son of ¦Alexander & Sarah WATTS) . ¦ ¦Hawkesbury Burial Reg has Hugh WATTS of Upton buried Jan 27 1879 age 54, ¦Died in Gloucester asylum I have always suspected that this is one and the ¦same person but didn't expect to find a marriage in between. ¦ ¦The only likely Jane WATTS that I have is the daughter of George WATTS & ¦Anna PRITCHARD, which would make Jane 1st cousin of Hugh!. This Jane was ¦baptised in Berkeley in 1840 and is with her widowed Mother at ¦Upper Wick in ¦1851. This, of course, is also where Hugh WATTS was in 1851! A Jane WATTS ¦of Hawkesbury Upton was buried at Hawkesbury June 6 1878 age 39. This fits ¦well with the Jane WATTS aforementioned. Couldn't find a marriage ¦on FreeBMD ¦for Hugh & Jane though. ¦ ¦IF Jane died in 1878 and Hugh followed soon after. in 1879, following ¦hospitalisation, it would make sense that their child/children would be ¦farmed out to relatives. ¦ ¦I suspect that Alice WATTS is the daughter of Isaac & Sarah chr ¦March 2 1870 ¦at Hillesley. ¦ ¦Does anyone have anything to add please? ¦ ¦Cheers ¦Carole ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== ¦Please remember when you post messages that SURNAMES should be in CAPITALS. ¦ ¦============================== ¦Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration ¦Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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Hello List, Time to return to the WATTS/WALBRIDGE/COOPER/TOGHILL/PRITCHARD melting pot! My Cousin Kay Buchanan has obtained certificates to confirm some of the retalioships we have been mulling over; Over to him!. "I have the marriage certificate for Elizabeth WATTS and Henry WALBRIDGE and also the death certificate for Elizabeth. Elizabeth WATTS, daughter of John WATTS and Jane PRITCHARD, married Henry WALBRIDGEe on 28 Dec 1865 at the Parish Church Walcott, Somerset, by licence. Both shown as 'full age'; Elizabeth a Spinster and Henry a Batchelor. Occupation of both shown as 'Lodging Housekeeper'; address of both 'Oxford Row'. Father of Henry was John WALBRIDGE, Coachman. Witnesses were Isaac WATTS and Sarah Hannah WALBRIDGE. Elizabeth WALBRIDGE (nee WATTS) widow of Henry WALBRIDGE died 7 Jan 1898 at Hillesley, Hawkesbury of Heart Disease and Bronchitis. Informant was Alfred WATTS, nephew of Kilcott, Hawkesbury. In the 1881 Census residing with Elizabeth (who was a widow at that time) was Alice WATTS, niece aged 11. In the 1891 Census residing with Elizabeth were Alice WATTS 21, single, niece and Arthur WATTS, 22, single, nephew. In the 1881 Census residing with Isaac WATTS were his two sons, Alfred 18 and Edward 16 and Arthur WATTS, nephew, 10, born Slaughterford Wiltshire. I have the birth certificate for Arthur Hugh WATTS, son of Hugh WATTS Gamekeeper, and Jane WATTS formerly WATTS, born 20 Aug 1869 at Slaughterford, Biddestone, Wiltshire. Birth registered by Jane WATTS. I assume that Arthur Hugh WATTS, nephew of both Isaac WATTS and Elizabeth WALBRIDGE (nee WATTS), was the son of their brother Hugh (bpt 18/12/1825 Hawkesbury) but I have no record of his marriage to a Jane WATTS or who were the parents of Jane. Have you any details? Am awaiting the birth certificate for Alice to find out who were her parents - I wonder if she was a sister of Arthur Hugh" The End of Kay's message My thoughts follow:- 1851 census at Upper Wick Hugh WATTS 22 Unm Farm Bailiff. born Hawkesbury Upton. nephew of Anna WATTS(nee PRITCHARD and widow of George , the son of Alexander & Sarah WATTS) . Hawkesbury Burial Reg has Hugh WATTS of Upton buried Jan 27 1879 age 54, Died in Gloucester asylum I have always suspected that this is one and the same person but didn't expect to find a marriage in between. The only likely Jane WATTS that I have is the daughter of George WATTS & Anna PRITCHARD, which would make Jane 1st cousin of Hugh!. This Jane was baptised in Berkeley in 1840 and is with her widowed Mother at Upper Wick in 1851. This, of course, is also where Hugh WATTS was in 1851! A Jane WATTS of Hawkesbury Upton was buried at Hawkesbury June 6 1878 age 39. This fits well with the Jane WATTS aforementioned. Couldn't find a marriage on FreeBMD for Hugh & Jane though. IF Jane died in 1878 and Hugh followed soon after. in 1879, following hospitalisation, it would make sense that their child/children would be farmed out to relatives. I suspect that Alice WATTS is the daughter of Isaac & Sarah chr March 2 1870 at Hillesley. Does anyone have anything to add please? Cheers Carole

Yes., what wonderful work to share., Many thanks Patricia G. [email protected] wrote: > I would like to second that. I looked round the graveyard in Hawkesbury > just after Christmas; it was a bitterly cold day and I didn't have a chance > to look at all the MIs properly, so this is of great help! > > Sarah Mitchell > > >-- Original Message -- > >From: "anthony sharp" <[email protected]> > >Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 07:33:39 -0000 > >Subject: [HWK] Burial Survey > >To: [email protected] > >Reply-To: [email protected] > > > > > >Robert, > Please pass on to Rebecca Ireland my thanks for allowing us to benefit from > all her hard work. Having seen the condition of some of the MIs, I am most > impressed. > > Best wishes > > Carole > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Millard" > ><[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 12:57 PM > Subject: [HWK] Burial Survey > > > Hi All > > We now have full details of burials in the Old section of the churchyard > at St Mary's co > >rtesy of Rebecca Ireland who has already let us use her > survey of St Mary's interior and her Index to the exterior, the details > can > give much more information than the Index. > > Find it at http://www.hawkesburyhistory.co.uk/burials/RIburialsurvey.h > >m > > regards > > Robert > > Visit my web pages at http://www.hawkesburyhistory.co.uk > > > > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > Please remember when you post messages that SURNAMES should be in CAPITALS. > > ============================== > Ga > >n access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > Please remember when you post messages that SURNAMES should be in CAPITALS. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Hello Doug Thanks for the information. I didn't know that William had remarried. My husband is descended from William and Patience's daughter, Ann, who married Thomas Cooper. Best wishes Angela ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Thompson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [HWK] Patience Chappell & William Thompson MI > William is my 4greats-grandfather. He had a second wife Elizabeth Watts. > David is their son, my 3g-gfather. > > Elizabeth Minett is David's oldest daughter who married Thomas Minett. > > What is your interest Angela? Are you a lost cousin of mine? > > Doug Thompson > > on 10/2/04 9:03 am, Angela DeRoy-Jones at [email protected] > wrote: > > > Looking at Rebecca Ireland's excellent survey and MIs, I notice that on the > > same tombstones as the above (No. 149), there is also mention of David > > Thompson, his wife Ann and an Elizabeth Minett. Can anyone tell me how > > they are related to William and Patience? > > > > Thanks > > Angela DeRoy-Jones > > > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > When replying to messages please make sure to remove ALL the "Re: and Hawks" bits in the subject line as otherwise these will be repeated. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

William is my 4greats-grandfather. He had a second wife Elizabeth Watts. David is their son, my 3g-gfather. Elizabeth Minett is David's oldest daughter who married Thomas Minett. What is your interest Angela? Are you a lost cousin of mine? Doug Thompson on 10/2/04 9:03 am, Angela DeRoy-Jones at [email protected] wrote: > Looking at Rebecca Ireland's excellent survey and MIs, I notice that on the > same tombstones as the above (No. 149), there is also mention of David > Thompson, his wife Ann and an Elizabeth Minett. Can anyone tell me how > they are related to William and Patience? > > Thanks > Angela DeRoy-Jones >

I would like to second that. I looked round the graveyard in Hawkesbury just after Christmas; it was a bitterly cold day and I didn't have a chance to look at all the MIs properly, so this is of great help! Sarah Mitchell >-- Original Message -- >From: "anthony sharp" <[email protected]> >Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 07:33:39 -0000 >Subject: [HWK] Burial Survey >To: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] > > >Robert, Please pass on to Rebecca Ireland my thanks for allowing us to benefit from all her hard work. Having seen the condition of some of the MIs, I am most impressed. Best wishes Carole ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Millard" ><[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 12:57 PM Subject: [HWK] Burial Survey > Hi All > We now have full details of burials in the Old section of the churchyard at St Mary's co >rtesy of Rebecca Ireland who has already let us use her survey of St Mary's interior and her Index to the exterior, the details can give much more information than the Index. > Find it at http://www.hawkesburyhistory.co.uk/burials/RIburialsurvey.h >m > regards > Robert > Visit my web pages at http://www.hawkesburyhistory.co.uk > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== Please remember when you post messages that SURNAMES should be in CAPITALS. ============================== Ga >n access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Hi All I have just received the death certificates for my 3x great grandparents Thomas WISE and his wife Anne Child WISE, nee COSSHAM. The informant of both deaths was their daughter Anne, wife of Lewis WALLINGTON (who were my 2x ggps). Death 2 October 1869 at Pullins Green, Thornbury, Anne Child WISE, Female, 76 years, Wife of Thomas Wise a Plasterer, of Decay of Nature - No Medical Attendant. Informant Anne Wallington present at the death, of Pullins Green Thornbury. The antecedents of Thomas WISE are still a mystery. Death 8 May 1871 at Pullins Green, Thornbury, Thomas WISE, Male, 78 years, Tiler and Plasterer, of Ulceration of the Stomach. Certified. Informant Anne Wallington present at the death, of Pullins Green Thornbury. Some time ago, Rosemary Lockie sent me this quote from Susan Dean's booklet The Cossham Story: "Jesse [COSSHAM] was baptised on 27th February 1756 at Thornbury, married Ann Child on 6 March 1791 and had four children. All his family are commemorated in Thornbury Baptist Church burial ground. Jesse 'carpenter of this town' died aged 41, wife Ann aged 64, son George 'in his 77th year' in 1871, and son Jesse just 8 months ..." then daughter Charlotte, and "Ann Child Cossham died aged 76 in 1869 and her husband Thomas Wise 2 years later aged 71." >From his age at the 1851 census I wondered then if Thomas Wise's quoted age was a misreading of 77, the inscription perhaps worn. It now looks as if that could be so. When we visited Thornbury last year, I had hoped to find this burial ground and memorial, but had not done my homework, so we missed it. Better luck next time, when I will be better prepared with a clear map. Happy days Lee Perth Oz

Looking at Rebecca Ireland's excellent survey and MIs, I notice that on the same tombstones as the above (No. 149), there is also mention of David Thompson, his wife Ann and an Elizabeth Minett. Can anyone tell me how they are related to William and Patience? Thanks Angela DeRoy-Jones

Robert, Please pass on to Rebecca Ireland my thanks for allowing us to benefit from all her hard work. Having seen the condition of some of the MIs, I am most impressed. Best wishes Carole ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Millard" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 12:57 PM Subject: [HWK] Burial Survey > Hi All > We now have full details of burials in the Old section of the churchyard at St Mary's courtesy of Rebecca Ireland who has already let us use her survey of St Mary's interior and her Index to the exterior, the details can give much more information than the Index. > Find it at http://www.hawkesburyhistory.co.uk/burials/RIburialsurvey.htm > regards > Robert > Visit my web pages at http://www.hawkesburyhistory.co.uk > >

Hi All We now have full details of burials in the Old section of the churchyard at St Mary's courtesy of Rebecca Ireland who has already let us use her survey of St Mary's interior and her Index to the exterior, the details can give much more information than the Index. Find it at http://www.hawkesburyhistory.co.uk/burials/RIburialsurvey.htm regards Robert Visit my web pages at http://www.hawkesburyhistory.co.uk

Hi All Some of you will know that Hawkesbury has a Historical Society who have been most generous with their help and research over the years, they now have a Web presence at http://www.hawkesburylocalhistorysociety.co.uk/ I also have a number of links to them on my web pages, enjoy. regards Robert Visit my web pages at http://www.hawkesburyhistory.co.uk

Hi Bernice I think the area around Toronto especialy the south west was very popular with Hawkesbury folk I have traced a number of STINCHCOMBE's there but one early family predates the 1841 census of England so is a bit difficult, there must have been a shipping company that "dropped off" close by was this farming country or industrial? And as for them WATTS'es they get every where. regards Robert Visit my web pages at http://www.hawkesburyhistory.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Ostrander" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 3:43 PM Subject: [HWK] Re: Charles BLEAKEN > There was a BLEAKEN family came to Canada with my ggrandfather,Thomas Amos > WATTS, who settled in Toronto. About 45yrs ago I remember visiting > Nedrie(BLEAKENbut I don't remember her married name. Also one time we > visited ST MARY'S the people that signed the guest book were BLEAKENS from > Oakville or Burlington. Bernice(WATTS)OSTRANDER > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Teagle" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 5:39 AM > Subject: [HWK] Charles BLEAKEN > > > > > > Whilst copying an entry from the 1901 census for Toronto, Canada for a > > relation of mine, Lewis TEAGLE, originally from Oldbury-on-the-Hill, who > > emigrated to Canada in 1882, and lived at 26 Irwin Ave, Toronto in 1901, I > > noticed that the head of household of the family immediately underneath > was > > a Charles BLEAKEN, 57, wid, born England on 11 March 1844, year of entry > to > > Canada 1882. His daughter Annie, 20, was also born England (29 March 1881) > > and entered Canada 1882. (There were two later sons aged 13 born Ontario, > > Albert born 2 May? 1887, and Frank born 16 Feb? 1886 (months difficult to > > read). Could Charles BLEAKEN be from Hawkesbury - families emigrating at > the > > same time often seem to have stayed together. > > > > My Dad had BLEAKEN cousins in Hawkesbury (descended fro Giles Beard > > Bleaken), and I know there was a Charles BLEAKEN born 1844 (married Emma > > MANNING, 1866, Hawkesbury)living on Inglestone Common in 1881, with an > > unnamed infant daughter aged 6 days. Does anyone know if this Charles > > BLEAKEN stayed in Hawkesbury, or could he be the one in Toronto in 1901? > > > > PS. If this is of interest to any BLEAKEN researchers who want to view > this > > entry on the orininal 1901 Toronto census page on the web (it's free > unlike > > the England 1901 census, but not name indexed)I have a note of the > relevant > > reference/schedule/page no. > > > > Richard Teagle > > Email: [email protected] > > > > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > > When replying to messages please make sure to remove ALL the "Re: and > Hawks" bits in the subject line as otherwise these will be repeated. > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > When replying to messages please make sure to remove ALL the "Re: and Hawks" bits in the subject line as otherwise these will be repeated. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Hi Richard It certainly looks to be the same Charles BLEAKEN the date of birth is abt right and he is not in Hawkesbury in 1891, Charles had 7 known children Lucy 1866 m Thomas STINCHCOMBE, Emily b,1868 m, Llewelyn STINCHCOMBE George b 1871 m Annie living in Hawkesbury 1891, Edward b,1873 John b,1876 Maria b,1878 and an infant unnamed at 1881 census could be Annie aged 20 in 1901 Toronto only the first 3 children appear to be in Hawkesbury in 1891. regards Robert Visit my web pages at http://www.hawkesburyhistory.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Teagle" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 10:39 AM Subject: [HWK] Charles BLEAKEN > > Whilst copying an entry from the 1901 census for Toronto, Canada for a > relation of mine, Lewis TEAGLE, originally from Oldbury-on-the-Hill, who > emigrated to Canada in 1882, and lived at 26 Irwin Ave, Toronto in 1901, I > noticed that the head of household of the family immediately underneath was > a Charles BLEAKEN, 57, wid, born England on 11 March 1844, year of entry to > Canada 1882. His daughter Annie, 20, was also born England (29 March 1881) > and entered Canada 1882. (There were two later sons aged 13 born Ontario, > Albert born 2 May? 1887, and Frank born 16 Feb? 1886 (months difficult to > read). Could Charles BLEAKEN be from Hawkesbury - families emigrating at the > same time often seem to have stayed together. > > My Dad had BLEAKEN cousins in Hawkesbury (descended fro Giles Beard > Bleaken), and I know there was a Charles BLEAKEN born 1844 (married Emma > MANNING, 1866, Hawkesbury)living on Inglestone Common in 1881, with an > unnamed infant daughter aged 6 days. Does anyone know if this Charles > BLEAKEN stayed in Hawkesbury, or could he be the one in Toronto in 1901? > > PS. If this is of interest to any BLEAKEN researchers who want to view this > entry on the orininal 1901 Toronto census page on the web (it's free unlike > the England 1901 census, but not name indexed)I have a note of the relevant > reference/schedule/page no. > > Richard Teagle > Email: [email protected] > > > ==== ENG-GLO-HAWKESBURY Mailing List ==== > When replying to messages please make sure to remove ALL the "Re: and Hawks" bits in the subject line as otherwise these will be repeated. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >