Hi Tony. Would you happen to have the census returns for the Hagues family? I would appreciate it. Thanks, Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mail server" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [ERY] hagues > Hello Susan (and Angela) > > Can I add my tuppence worth? I think the most likely candidate is Gertrude > (full name Gertrude Harriet E Hagues). > > Of the children Angela mentions in the 1881 census, Martha Ann marries > Frederick W Scott in 1881 (from FreeBMD and YorkshireBMD) so the children > can't be hers; James Frederick (not Frank) would only have been about 15 > or 16 years old when Ann was born so although possible, its unlikely (and > wouldn't the child have stayed with the mother?). So the obvious candidate > is Gertrude and given that she is still living with her parents in 1891 > and the children are also there makes it more feasible. From the 1861 & > 1871 census, there don't appear to be any more children who could possibly > be the mother/father. > > Gertrude married John Watson Coates in Sculcoates Register Office in 1893 > (FreeBMD, YorkshireBMD & 1901 Census). If Ann IS the daughter of Gertrude > then presumably John didn't want another man's child in the house because > Ann Coates is still living with her grandparents in 1901 (in Cottingham) ~ > transcribed as HAGNES an Ancestry. > > Arthur Coates died aged 3 in 1891. > > James Frederick Hagues married Alice A Clark in 1896. > > Hope this helps! > I can send you copies of the census returns off-list if you want them. > Regards, > Tony > > From: "susan nielsen" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 10:37 AM > Subject: Re: [ERY] hagues > > >> Hi Angela. >> I don't have access to any census except the 1901. Everything from this >> end is an expensive exercise I have already paid dearly for. I live in >> Australia. Thank you for your help. >> Regards, Sue >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Angela MacLellan" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 8:09 PM >> Subject: Re: [ERY] hagues >> >> >>> Hi Sue >>> >>> Found them now - transcribed as HAGNER >>> >>> I assume you have 1881 census >>> >>> which has daughter Martha Ann Un 19 >>> Gertrude 14 >>> James Frank 10 >>> >>> If Ann & Arthur were born out of wedlock then you have candidates >>> Martha, Gertrude and if in wedlock James Frank >>> >>> The only way you will find the parents is to get the birth certificates >>> >>> looks as if the ref are: >>> >>> Ann Mar 1887 Sculcoates 9d, page 129 >>> >>> Arthur Jun 1889 Sculcoates 9d page 134 >>> >>> I have been unable to find Ann and Arthur in 1901 for further clues >>> >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> Angela >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>From: "susan nielsen" <[email protected]> >>>>Reply-To: [email protected] >>>>To: [email protected] >>>>Subject: Re: [ERY] hagues >>>>Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 06:54:13 +1000 >>>> >>>>Hi Angela. >>>>As far as I know, the 1891 census is... >>>>John Hagues Head 52 born Arnold market gardenr. >>>>Emma Hagues Wife 52 Hessle >>>>Gertrude Hagues 24 Daughter >>>>Francis H Hagues 12 Son Cottingham >>>>Charles 10 Son Cottingham >>>>Ann Hagues 4 Grandaughter. Cottingham. >>>>Arthur Hagues 2 Grandson Cottingham. >>>>I have not seen the census myself. All I need to know is who are the >>>>parents of Ann and Arthur. >>>>Ann has been a bit of a mystery to the family and I have found it hard >>>>to track her down. I did suppose that she might have been born out of >>>>wedlock but, not sure. >>>>Thank you for your help. >>>>Regards, Sue >>>>Arthur >>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Angela MacLellan" >>>><[email protected]> >>>>To: <[email protected]> >>>>Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 11:31 PM >>>>Subject: RE: [ERY] hagues >>>> >>>> >>>>>Hi Sue >>>>> >>>>>Just had a quick look and no one coming up >>>>> >>>>>where would you expect them to be in Yorkshire >>>>> >>>>>Angela >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>From: "susan nielsen" <[email protected]> >>>>>>Reply-To: [email protected] >>>>>>To: [email protected] >>>>>>Subject: [ERY] hagues >>>>>>Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 19:25:19 +1000 >>>>>> >>>>>>Hi Listers. >>>>>>Would sks with access to the 1891 census please look up a John b.1841 >>>>>>Arnel and Emma Hagues I am trying to find who the parents of Ann and >>>>>>Arthur Hagues were. >>>>>>Thank you, Sue >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>==== ENG-EAST-YORKS Mailing List ==== >>>>>>This list is only as good as you make it. 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