Sue, Images sent off-list ~ let me know if you don't get them! Regards, Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: "susan nielsen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 12:37 PM Subject: Re: [ERY] hagues > Hi Tony. > Would you happen to have the census returns for the Hagues family? I would > appreciate it. > Thanks, Sue > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mail server" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 9:17 PM > Subject: Re: [ERY] hagues > > >> Hello Susan (and Angela) >> >> Can I add my tuppence worth? I think the most likely candidate is >> Gertrude (full name Gertrude Harriet E Hagues). >> >> Of the children Angela mentions in the 1881 census, Martha Ann marries >> Frederick W Scott in 1881 (from FreeBMD and YorkshireBMD) so the children >> can't be hers; James Frederick (not Frank) would only have been about 15 >> or 16 years old when Ann was born so although possible, its unlikely (and >> wouldn't the child have stayed with the mother?). So the obvious >> candidate is Gertrude and given that she is still living with her parents >> in 1891 and the children are also there makes it more feasible. From the >> 1861 & 1871 census, there don't appear to be any more children who could >> possibly be the mother/father. >> >> Gertrude married John Watson Coates in Sculcoates Register Office in 1893 >> (FreeBMD, YorkshireBMD & 1901 Census). If Ann IS the daughter of Gertrude >> then presumably John didn't want another man's child in the house because >> Ann Coates is still living with her grandparents in 1901 (in Cottingham) >> ~ transcribed as HAGNES an Ancestry. >> >> Arthur Coates died aged 3 in 1891. >> >> James Frederick Hagues married Alice A Clark in 1896. >> >> Hope this helps! >> I can send you copies of the census returns off-list if you want them. >> Regards, >> Tony >> >> From: "susan nielsen" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 10:37 AM >> Subject: Re: [ERY] hagues >> >> >>> Hi Angela. >>> I don't have access to any census except the 1901. Everything from this >>> end is an expensive exercise I have already paid dearly for. I live in >>> Australia. Thank you for your help. >>> Regards, Sue >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Angela MacLellan" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 8:09 PM >>> Subject: Re: [ERY] hagues >>> >>> >>>> Hi Sue >>>> >>>> Found them now - transcribed as HAGNER >>>> >>>> I assume you have 1881 census >>>> >>>> which has daughter Martha Ann Un 19 >>>> Gertrude 14 >>>> James Frank 10 >>>> >>>> If Ann & Arthur were born out of wedlock then you have candidates >>>> Martha, Gertrude and if in wedlock James Frank >>>> >>>> The only way you will find the parents is to get the birth certificates >>>> >>>> looks as if the ref are: >>>> >>>> Ann Mar 1887 Sculcoates 9d, page 129 >>>> >>>> Arthur Jun 1889 Sculcoates 9d page 134 >>>> >>>> I have been unable to find Ann and Arthur in 1901 for further clues >>>> >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> >>>> Angela >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>From: "susan nielsen" <[email protected]> >>>>>Reply-To: [email protected] >>>>>To: [email protected] >>>>>Subject: Re: [ERY] hagues >>>>>Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 06:54:13 +1000 >>>>> >>>>>Hi Angela. >>>>>As far as I know, the 1891 census is... >>>>>John Hagues Head 52 born Arnold market gardenr. >>>>>Emma Hagues Wife 52 Hessle >>>>>Gertrude Hagues 24 Daughter >>>>>Francis H Hagues 12 Son Cottingham >>>>>Charles 10 Son Cottingham >>>>>Ann Hagues 4 Grandaughter. Cottingham. >>>>>Arthur Hagues 2 Grandson Cottingham. >>>>>I have not seen the census myself. All I need to know is who are the >>>>>parents of Ann and Arthur. >>>>>Ann has been a bit of a mystery to the family and I have found it hard >>>>>to track her down. I did suppose that she might have been born out of >>>>>wedlock but, not sure. >>>>>Thank you for your help. >>>>>Regards, Sue >>>>>Arthur >>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Angela MacLellan" >>>>><[email protected]> >>>>>To: <[email protected]> >>>>>Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 11:31 PM >>>>>Subject: RE: [ERY] hagues >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Hi Sue >>>>>> >>>>>>Just had a quick look and no one coming up >>>>>> >>>>>>where would you expect them to be in Yorkshire >>>>>> >>>>>>Angela >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>From: "susan nielsen" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>Reply-To: [email protected] >>>>>>>To: [email protected] >>>>>>>Subject: [ERY] hagues >>>>>>>Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 19:25:19 +1000 >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Hi Listers. >>>>>>>Would sks with access to the 1891 census please look up a John b.1841 >>>>>>>Arnel and Emma Hagues I am trying to find who the parents of Ann and >>>>>>>Arthur Hagues were. >>>>>>>Thank you, Sue >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>==== ENG-EAST-YORKS Mailing List ==== >>>>>>>This list is only as good as you make it. 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Hi Tony. Yes, I got them. Thank you very much for your kind help. Regards, Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mail server" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 11:39 PM Subject: Re: [ERY] hagues > Sue, > Images sent off-list ~ let me know if you don't get them! > Regards, > Tony > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "susan nielsen" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 12:37 PM > Subject: Re: [ERY] hagues > > >> Hi Tony. >> Would you happen to have the census returns for the Hagues family? I >> would appreciate it. >> Thanks, Sue >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mail server" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 9:17 PM >> Subject: Re: [ERY] hagues >> >> >>> Hello Susan (and Angela) >>> >>> Can I add my tuppence worth? I think the most likely candidate is >>> Gertrude (full name Gertrude Harriet E Hagues). >>> >>> Of the children Angela mentions in the 1881 census, Martha Ann marries >>> Frederick W Scott in 1881 (from FreeBMD and YorkshireBMD) so the >>> children can't be hers; James Frederick (not Frank) would only have >>> been about 15 or 16 years old when Ann was born so although possible, >>> its unlikely (and wouldn't the child have stayed with the mother?). So >>> the obvious candidate is Gertrude and given that she is still living >>> with her parents in 1891 and the children are also there makes it more >>> feasible. From the 1861 & 1871 census, there don't appear to be any more >>> children who could possibly be the mother/father. >>> >>> Gertrude married John Watson Coates in Sculcoates Register Office in >>> 1893 (FreeBMD, YorkshireBMD & 1901 Census). If Ann IS the daughter of >>> Gertrude then presumably John didn't want another man's child in the >>> house because >>> Ann Coates is still living with her grandparents in 1901 (in Cottingham) >>> ~ transcribed as HAGNES an Ancestry. >>> >>> Arthur Coates died aged 3 in 1891. >>> >>> James Frederick Hagues married Alice A Clark in 1896. >>> >>> Hope this helps! >>> I can send you copies of the census returns off-list if you want them. >>> Regards, >>> Tony >>> >>> From: "susan nielsen" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 10:37 AM >>> Subject: Re: [ERY] hagues >>> >>> >>>> Hi Angela. >>>> I don't have access to any census except the 1901. Everything from this >>>> end is an expensive exercise I have already paid dearly for. I live in >>>> Australia. Thank you for your help. >>>> Regards, Sue >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Angela MacLellan" <[email protected]> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 8:09 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [ERY] hagues >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi Sue >>>>> >>>>> Found them now - transcribed as HAGNER >>>>> >>>>> I assume you have 1881 census >>>>> >>>>> which has daughter Martha Ann Un 19 >>>>> Gertrude 14 >>>>> James Frank 10 >>>>> >>>>> If Ann & Arthur were born out of wedlock then you have candidates >>>>> Martha, Gertrude and if in wedlock James Frank >>>>> >>>>> The only way you will find the parents is to get the birth >>>>> certificates >>>>> >>>>> looks as if the ref are: >>>>> >>>>> Ann Mar 1887 Sculcoates 9d, page 129 >>>>> >>>>> Arthur Jun 1889 Sculcoates 9d page 134 >>>>> >>>>> I have been unable to find Ann and Arthur in 1901 for further clues >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards >>>>> >>>>> Angela >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>From: "susan nielsen" <[email protected]> >>>>>>Reply-To: [email protected] >>>>>>To: [email protected] >>>>>>Subject: Re: [ERY] hagues >>>>>>Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 06:54:13 +1000 >>>>>> >>>>>>Hi Angela. >>>>>>As far as I know, the 1891 census is... >>>>>>John Hagues Head 52 born Arnold market gardenr. >>>>>>Emma Hagues Wife 52 Hessle >>>>>>Gertrude Hagues 24 Daughter >>>>>>Francis H Hagues 12 Son Cottingham >>>>>>Charles 10 Son Cottingham >>>>>>Ann Hagues 4 Grandaughter. Cottingham. >>>>>>Arthur Hagues 2 Grandson Cottingham. >>>>>>I have not seen the census myself. All I need to know is who are the >>>>>>parents of Ann and Arthur. >>>>>>Ann has been a bit of a mystery to the family and I have found it hard >>>>>>to track her down. I did suppose that she might have been born out of >>>>>>wedlock but, not sure. >>>>>>Thank you for your help. >>>>>>Regards, Sue >>>>>>Arthur >>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Angela MacLellan" >>>>>><[email protected]> >>>>>>To: <[email protected]> >>>>>>Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 11:31 PM >>>>>>Subject: RE: [ERY] hagues >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Hi Sue >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Just had a quick look and no one coming up >>>>>>> >>>>>>>where would you expect them to be in Yorkshire >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Angela >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>From: "susan nielsen" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>Reply-To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>Subject: [ERY] hagues >>>>>>>>Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 19:25:19 +1000 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Hi Listers. >>>>>>>>Would sks with access to the 1891 census please look up a John >>>>>>>>b.1841 Arnel and Emma Hagues I am trying to find who the parents of >>>>>>>>Ann and Arthur Hagues were. >>>>>>>>Thank you, Sue >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>==== ENG-EAST-YORKS Mailing List ==== >>>>>>>>This list is only as good as you make it. 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