Given that one baptism was C of E and the other was Methodist, it is certainly possible for a child to be baptised twice, once in each denomination. Note that he was about 7 the second time. Perhaps this marked the family's acceptance into the Hull church. Marriage records for non-conformist churches like Primitive Methodist are not likely to exist too early. Before 1837 all marriages ( except Quaker and Jew) had to be in the C of E. After 1837, the Registrar usually attended at non-conformist churches so the records will be at the Register office where you can only access the information by buying a certificate. You might track down the Registrars Notice Book which sometimes exist for a district - at least 7 exist for some parts of Wiltshire. Try solicitors collections for these. Good luck. Persis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Holmes" <tigerjan775@hotmail.com> To: <eng-east-yorks@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 8:44 PM Subject: [ENG-EAST-YORKS] RAWLING - Norton & Hull > Hi, > > I'm new to this list and have too many East Yorkshire ancestors to list > here. > > My own line is RAWLING. I've gone as far back as John RAWLING who married > Christiana (Christy) LAPISH in Norton by Malton in 1799 (IGI). I haven't > been able to find the births of either of these, (neither seem to have > been born in Norton) but they are both buried in Sculcoates. > > Sometime between the birth of their youngest child, Harriet, and John's > death in 1813 the family moved to Sculcoates, where presumably my 3x Great > Grandfather met and married Elizabeth JOHNSON in or before 1830. I've been > to Beverley a few times with the intention of finding the marriage and > have searched most of the churches in both Sculcoates and Hull with no > success. > > My Great, Great Grandfather John RAWLING seems to have had two > baptisms....is this likely? >>From the IGI there was a baptism of John RAWLIN (no G) with parents >>William RAWLIN and Elizabeth in Sculcoates in 1830. There was also a joint >>baptism of John RAWLING and his sisters Emma and Sophia at the Mill Street >>Primitive Methodist church in Hull in 1837 with parents William RAWLING >>and Elizabeth JOHNSON. > > So my questions are these. Is it likely that my GG Grandfather had 2 > baptisms? Would the marriage records for Mill Street Primitive be in the > Hull Archives? (They are not in Beverley). > > I would love to find someone on this list who has any of my ancestors in > their tree. > > Regards, > > Jan Holmes > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get Hotmail on your mobile, text MSN to 63463! > http://mobile.uk.msn.com/pc/mail.aspx > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1256 - Release Date: 2/2/2008 > 13:50 > >

Thanks for this. It would explain why the Mill Street Methodist birth records were on the IGI but not the marriage records. Presumably then, they were married in a C of E church, and I will just have to keep on looking. Although I'm beginning to wonder if they were married at all.....!! Also a good explanation for why John was baptised twice, something I have wondered about for a long time. Regards, Jan > From: persisndavid@talktalk.net> To: eng-east-yorks@rootsweb.com> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 21:11:45 +0000> Subject: Re: [ENG-EAST-YORKS] RAWLING - Norton & Hull> > Given that one baptism was C of E and the other was Methodist, it is > certainly possible for a child to be baptised twice, once in each > denomination. Note that he was about 7 the second time. Perhaps this marked > the family's acceptance into the Hull church. Marriage records for > non-conformist churches like Primitive Methodist are not likely to exist too > early. Before 1837 all marriages ( except Quaker and Jew) had to be in the > C of E. After 1837, the Registrar usually attended at non-conformist > churches so the records will be at the Register office where you can only > access the information by buying a certificate. You might track down the > Registrars Notice Book which sometimes exist for a district - at least 7 > exist for some parts of Wiltshire. Try solicitors collections for these.> Good luck.> Persis> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jan Holmes" <tigerjan775@hotmail.com>> To: <eng-east-yorks@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 8:44 PM> Subject: [ENG-EAST-YORKS] RAWLING - Norton & Hull> > > > Hi,> >> > I'm new to this list and have too many East Yorkshire ancestors to list > > here.> >> > My own line is RAWLING. I've gone as far back as John RAWLING who married > > Christiana (Christy) LAPISH in Norton by Malton in 1799 (IGI). I haven't > > been able to find the births of either of these, (neither seem to have > > been born in Norton) but they are both buried in Sculcoates.> >> > Sometime between the birth of their youngest child, Harriet, and John's > > death in 1813 the family moved to Sculcoates, where presumably my 3x Great > > Grandfather met and married Elizabeth JOHNSON in or before 1830. I've been > > to Beverley a few times with the intention of finding the marriage and > > have searched most of the churches in both Sculcoates and Hull with no > > success.> >> > My Great, Great Grandfather John RAWLING seems to have had two > > baptisms....is this likely?> >>From the IGI there was a baptism of John RAWLIN (no G) with parents > >>William RAWLIN and Elizabeth in Sculcoates in 1830. There was also a joint > >>baptism of John RAWLING and his sisters Emma and Sophia at the Mill Street > >>Primitive Methodist church in Hull in 1837 with parents William RAWLING > >>and Elizabeth JOHNSON.> >> > So my questions are these. Is it likely that my GG Grandfather had 2 > > baptisms? Would the marriage records for Mill Street Primitive be in the > > Hull Archives? (They are not in Beverley).> >> > I would love to find someone on this list who has any of my ancestors in > > their tree.> >> > Regards,> >> > Jan Holmes> >> >> >> >> >> >> > _________________________________________________________________> > Get Hotmail on your mobile, text MSN to 63463!> > http://mobile.uk.msn.com/pc/mail.aspx> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message> >> >> > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message.> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.> > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1256 - Release Date: 2/2/2008 > > 13:50> >> > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Share what Santa brought you https://www.mycooluncool.com

Quoting Jan Holmes <tigerjan775@hotmail.com>: > Thanks for this. It would explain why the Mill Street Methodist birth records > were on the IGI but not the marriage records. At one time, I dont recall the years, that in order to get "Parish Relief" you had to be baptised in the established church. A reason that your ancestors might not show as being married as they might not have been able to afford the fee charged by the minister & the Government. (yes another form of taxation).