Hello List, I am jumping into this debate/search for information a little late, but I do have some insight into what it is you are looking for. (although not specifically). I did obtain my uncle's record from WW1 through the PRO. and there are Muster Rolls and Medal Rolls available online as previously mentioned. One has to pay for the actual documents though. Sadly my eldest uncle's documents did not survive enemy bombing of the record Offices in WW11. There is evidence of fire damage on the records I do have. Just to give you some indication of what one can find, I now know that two of my uncles went into the Boys Brigade late in the 1800's or very early in the 1900's. They were both Cutlers by Trade.They then transferred to the Militia in the York & Lancs Regiment. The boys were born and raised in Sheffield. The Home Army was never supposed to be sent abroad although my second eldest uncle died on 23rd October 1914 in France, near the Chateau de Flandres. He is buried at Ration Farm Military Cemetary. He was a 'Drummer'. Further research has produced his enlistment papers and the War Diaries for the Regiment, which means that I know exactly where and when he was killed. He died while running through a Barn according to his eldest brother who was with him at the time. The eldest uncle was severely wounded by shrapnel, and terribly disfigured. He held himself responsible for his brother's death and never recovered from the trauma. To answer the question re the likely Regiments one would join. It is known that the Boys joined the Y&L in 1808 (as Militia). They thought it quite a Lark. Here is an acount of the history for the Y&L as follows. Unfortunately it is not a pleasant scenario: Formed in 1881 by the amalgamation of 2 Regiments. The 65th 2nd North Riding Reg. & the 84th York & Lancaster Regiment... The title of the Regiment was derived from the fact that most of the enlisted men were drawn from the Militias under the control of properties owned by the Duchy of York and the Duchy of Lancaster... a nice way of saying that the men who were employed on the lands of these 'gentlemen', inevitably ended up as Cannon Fodder. they were in many cases coerced into joining the Army... the Lords would march them up and down in uniforms purchased by the same. As a reward, these same Officers and Gentlemen would be given Honorary Medals for their contribution to the War effort. A great deal of these same Officers never saw active combat, just merrily waved their men off to war at the Railway Station. In fact it is recorded in books that the regular recruiting area for the Y&L. was wholly within South Yorkshire, an area known as Hallamshire. From 1924 the regiment was known as the 'Hallamshire Regiment'. This also meant that a huge population from one area was inevitably decimated... The York & Lancs regiment raised 22 Battalions for service in WW1, of which 8 Battalions saw action on the first day of the battle of the Somme. My uncles were in the first wave. Arthur Dixon was killed age 24 years old on the 23rd October 1914 when his brother Charles was severely wounded, he and his brother were only one of many killed or wounded in October 1914. I had 4 uncles serving in WW1 all brothers. My Grandfather died of a broken heart in 1917 my Grandmother died in 1920. My mother was an orphan at ten having lost her 3 eldest brothers to the War... During this War, this Regiment suffered 48,650 casualties out of 57,000 men serving., with 8,814 killed or later died of War wounds. (72 out of every 100 men being either killed or wounded). The Regiment won 4 Victoria Crosses and 59 Battle Honours, the largest number in any English Regiment during the 1st WW. My Grandfather realizing the danger the boys were in had tried to buy them Commissions when it became apparent that the boys would be sent to France. (this was denied). I have huge amounts of infomation re this Regiment, but I tell you this so that one can see that a lot of local men who worked on Large Estates would have been swept up in this type of scenario. The Lords with big Estates had a huge influence on the enlistment of their own servants. Research has shown from Newspapers of the day that the men were bribed and coerced into joining Militias... the Territorial Army which was never supposed to leave England, were the first one's given new designations and sent to War... In Newspaper accounts from the 'Sheffield Register' of the era, it is apparent that on Sundays, at Church, men were brought up for ridicule and called cowards if they refused to join Militias. There is evidence that families were taken care of if the men went off to War, but unfortunately some men were dismissed from service and lost their homes if they refused. Special mention of the amount of men who had joined up was given out at Church Services as well. Special mention was made of those who gave their all for their country. I also have the Muster Rolls. Pay records and discharge documents also for my 3Xs Great Grandfather who joined the Royal Artillery in 1807. He was sent to Canada with his wife in 1808. He stayed in Canada until 1814-15. He was discharged in 1816 after being wounded in Belgium. He was on his way to the Battle of Waterloo in 1815, when he was wounded by the falling of part of a gun. He received a pension of 6d per diem. If I can help in any way with trying to find information, please let me know, and I shall do my best. I belong to both Lists as my father's side of the family was from East/North Riding of Yorkshire and my Maternal side originated from South Yorkshire, namely Sheffield. Kindest regards, Josephine M. Laxton p.s. sadly some of the Officers were in fact cousins of my uncles. In all I have counted 62 members of my mother's family and extended families; who served in WW1. a lot of them never came back...I only have knowledge of the Y&L anthe Royal Artillery of the 1800's... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue" <lookfor@btinternet.com> To: <eng-east-yorks@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-EAST-YORKS] Double Checking info from the cwgc.org-whatregiment? > And my granny's first hubby was from Nottinghamshire, & joined the Essex > Regiment .. > > Sue > > > > Deirdra > > Not necessarily. My grandfather was from Londesborough, East Yorkshire, but > he joined the Middlesex Regiment, Royal Engineers. > > Graham> From: deirdrapickering@gmail.com> To: eng-east-yorks@rootsweb.com> > Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 14:23:21 +0100> Subject: [ENG-EAST-YORKS] Double > Checking info from the cwgc.org - what regiment?> > Friends,> > Sorry to > weigh you down with another question - is it correct to > presume that > soldiers in WW1 went into regiments with similar sounding > names as their > county - for example - a soldier from Hull might join > the > Regiment/Service: King's Own Yorkshire Light Infantry?> > thanks for any > insights.> > Deirdra - willing to do looks up in Dublin, Ireland.> > > On 10 > May 2008, at 14:08, Janet Lovegrove wrote:> > > Hi Deirdra> >> > As a matter > of interest, this same Frederick William Pickering > > shown below received > the Victory Medal and there is an * with info > > showing "kin" meaning > likely that it was handed over to his next of > > kin. Maybe someone on the > List may have access to the CD disc of > > "Soldiers Died in The Great War > 1914-1915" and could do a look up. > ! > > I cannot remember exactly what info is on the disc about each > > > individual, but I seem to recall it does indicate where the person > > > signed up. Some Libraries, FHS may have this disc.> >> > http://www > great-war-casualties.com/> >> > Janet> >> > Deirdra Pickering > <deirdrapickering@gmail.com> wrote:> > Friends,> >> > Hazel B very kindly > suggested the cwgc website for tracking people who> > may have been killed > in the war. For example, the man below may be a> > relative - any ideas how > I can confirm that? I checked against the> > free BMD register for Hull in > 1915 / 16 / 17 but he is not recorded.> > Would his death have been recorded > in his native city of Hull? Is> > there another way to double check if > information on the cwgc is what I> > am looking for? Can I check the army > records for the regiment?> >> >> > PICKERING, FREDERICK WILLIAM> >> > > Nationality: United Kingdom> >> > Regiment/Service: King's Own Yorkshire > Light Infantry> > Unit Text:> > 10th Bn.> > Date of De! > ath:> > 25/09/1916> >> > Thanks for any help> > Deirdra> >> > On 23 No > v 2007, at 17:34, Hazel- Gen wrote:> >> >> Hi there,> >>> >> Frederick > William Pickering (1874) and possibly also Albert> >> Pickering (1870)> >> > are listed on the Commonwealth War Graves site I think.> >>> >> www.cwgc > org> >>> >>> >> Yours> >>> >> Hazel B> >>> >> Researching:-> >> Barmby - > ERY> >> Escritt - ERY> >> Lamming - ERY & Lincs.> >> -----Original > Message-----> >> From: eng-east-yorks-bounces@rootsweb.com> >> > [mailto:eng-east-yorks-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Deirdra> >> > Pickering> >> Sent: 23 November 2007 14:57> >> To: eng-east-yorks@rootsweb > com> >> Subject: [ENG-EAST-YORKS] Pickerings from East Yorkshire> >>> >> > Hello friends,> >> I've read many emails on the circulation list and > unfortunately been> >> unable to answer any. However, I am submitting my own > selection of> >> ancestors to see if any of the names may ring a bell with > other> >> subscribers.> >>> >> Pickerings from East Yorkshire> >> Pickerings > from Benningholme, circa 1770's (Gx4 Father - Willi! > am)> >> Pickerings from Bewholme (Gx3 Father - Francis, born 1796, > married> >> Mary> >> from Barmston> >>> >> Pickerings from Hull:> >> (Gx2 > Father - Francis, born 1833, married Ann Elizabeth Gossip from> >> Skirlaugh > Also Francis' sibling John Pickering who married Ruth> >> Holden> >> and > moved to Essex. Their children were Mary, John, Florence, Frank> >> and> >> > Ernest> >>> >> (Gx1 Father - Walter, born 1862, married Mary Ellen Grey from > Grange> >> Street, Hull.> >> Also Walter Pickering's siblings:> >> Frederick > William, born 1874 - killed in WW1?> >> Leah Edith, born 1872, married > Francis Harrison> >> Albert Pickering, born 1870 - killed in WW1?> >> > Priscilla, born 1867, married William Filby> >>> >> Kind regards> >> Deirdra > Pickering in Dublin> >>> >> -------------------------------> >> To > unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to> >> > ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe'> >> without > the> >> quotes in the subject and the body of the ! > message> >>> >> -- > >> I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for > private users.> >> It has removed 608 spam emails to date.> >> Paying > users do not have this message in their emails.> >> Get the free SPAMfighter > here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len> >>> >>> >>> >> > -------------------------------> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please > send an email to ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com> >> with the word > unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and> >> the body of the > message> >>> >> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from > the list, please send an email to ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com > > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > > the > body of the message> >> >> > -------------------------------> > To > unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and > > the body of the message> > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send > an email to ENG-! > EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-EAST-YORKS-reque st@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >