Hi Lilian, Well this is VERY interesting!! The IGI has George PLAXTON marrying Ellen DOPER. I hadn't been able to find a Doper family anywhere, and I knew when I studied the printout from my visit to Beverley yesterday that there was an 's' in there and had decided even before your email that this was most likely DOSSER or DOSSOR. Apart from Charles, I haven't really taken note of any other siblings of George and hadn't realised that William had married Elizabeth DOSSER, but had I known this I would have assumed that this was Ellen's sister. Do you have access to the Cottingham PRs (or alternatively which parish you managed to find the information)? If so, would it be possible for you to email me with the relevant details, because I think I might need another visit to the archives next week after work!! Yes, I agree that none of us can really have definite proof once you get further than what you actually know as fact, and certainly before 1837 it becomes educated guesswork for most of us to a certain extent. I have several branches which have ground to a halt because of families all naming their children the same names, or finding IGI records of two people with the same name a few miles apart....and with no idea which is the right one, taking a stab in the dark just isn't enough!!! Thank you very much for this, it has opened up a whole new line of research. Regards, Jan > From: DORSEY_CHCH@xtra.co.nz> To: eng-east-yorks@rootsweb.com> Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 10:01:51 +1200> Subject: Re: [ENG-EAST-YORKS] PLAXTON Cottingham> > Jan > > I am not sure how one can get definite proof but for all its worth, this> next information is assumption only. There is a William PLAXTON who married> Elizabeth DOSSER and I think this could be your William senior. Elizabeth> had a daughter named Helen/Ellen and I think this could be your Ellen DOPER.> (written as long f for double S but looks like P). In other words two> brothers married a mother and daughter. Both the females had illeg status as> did their grandmother. I have only the parish records of the various events> to make this assumption but if you can find any further evidence it might> support or discount what I have written.> > Lillian> > -----Original Message-----> From: eng-east-yorks-bounces@rootsweb.com> [mailto:eng-east-yorks-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jan Holmes> Sent: Sunday, 6 April 2008 12:18 a.m.> To: eng-east-yorks@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [ENG-EAST-YORKS] PLAXTON Cottingham> > > Hi Lilian,> > Thanks for this. I haven't explored the death of Ellen born to George and> Ellen in 1832, but I have thought about it and I think you are right, if I> check the Cottingham burials before 1836 I'm pretty sure I will find her> listed there. I have often come across this in my research, where when one> child dies, the next to be born is given the same name, resulting in maybe 3> or 4 children with the same name born to the same family. This seems the> case even more so when the child who died was given the name of the parent.> The idea of this sounds awful to me in this day and age, but in the days of> so much infant mortality it was probably the norm.> > The more I think about it, and the more advice I get from those of you who> have replied, the more likely it seems that Ellen's father was George, not> Charles as stated in the records. We all make mistakes, and as you say both> George and Charles (plus John and Thomas, likely to be other sons of William> and Elizabeth) were having children baptised in Cottingham around that time.> Incidentally I wasn't serious about an illicit affair between Charles and> his sister-in-law and the unspoken thought of him absconding to Canada to> escape the backlash!!! :-)> > Regards,> > Jan> > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Amazing prizes every hour with Live Search Big Snap http://www.bigsnapsearch.com