Tim I have a couple of Wiles names. The first is Mary Wiles born 1814 at Great Cowden. Mary became pregnant and took George Dixon to court. The court told him to pay 1s 6d a week (detauils in East Riding archives). Instead of paying that he married her! The other Wiles I have is Mary's father William born 1786 d. 1860. Somehow I have omitted to show his birth place. I will be doing some checking on this. William married Ann Ockleton in 1813 in Aldborough. Guess these are not in your areas of search? Victor Tim Hutchinson wrote: > Hi All, > > > > Has anyone come across a Marmaduke WILES from the East Riding? I have > uncovered several now, earliest one is a marriage in 1728 in Hessle, right > through to one who was killed in the first world war. > > > > There seems to be three main 'clans', one located in Birdlington and > Barmston, one in Cranswick / Driffield / North Frodingham, and one in South > Cave. I am directly related to those from the Frodingham area, but have > linked this clan to the Bridlington clan. I have not yet made a connection > with the South Cave clan, but due to the number of uncommon Christian names > which appear in all three clans, I am sure there is a link. > > > > Has anyone researched the WILES family from Frodingham or Cranswick and are > able to untangle this knot? > > > > Any help gratefully received. > > > > Tim Hutchinson > > Beverley, E. Yorkshire > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi All, Has anyone come across a Marmaduke WILES from the East Riding? I have uncovered several now, earliest one is a marriage in 1728 in Hessle, right through to one who was killed in the first world war. There seems to be three main 'clans', one located in Birdlington and Barmston, one in Cranswick / Driffield / North Frodingham, and one in South Cave. I am directly related to those from the Frodingham area, but have linked this clan to the Bridlington clan. I have not yet made a connection with the South Cave clan, but due to the number of uncommon Christian names which appear in all three clans, I am sure there is a link. Has anyone researched the WILES family from Frodingham or Cranswick and are able to untangle this knot? Any help gratefully received. Tim Hutchinson Beverley, E. Yorkshire

Hello Maureen, Many thanks indeed for checking the Paull marriage register for me. It is very kind of you. I suspected that the marriage probably wouldn't be for "my" Elizabeth and the places of abode listed for both parties and the names of the witnesses would tend to confirm this. I had also taken into consideration the great distance between the two parishes but since this marriage is the only one on "familysearch" for an Elizabeth CALVERT marrying a Mr. WHITE I thought I might be lucky! Since most of my ancestors were from Lincolnshire I have no idea how comprehensive the IGI for Yorkshire is, but imagine there are more marriages missing than those listed. Clearly the search will have to go on! Thanks once again for your help. Good luck with your own research. (If you have any ancestors in Barcelona I may be able to help you!!) Best wishes, Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maureen" <maureen@ellen68.plus.com> To: <eng-east-yorks@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-EAST-YORKS] Paull Marriage in 1814 WHITE-CALVERT > Hi Mark, > > I was at Beverley Archives today and looked up the marriage at Paull: > > Edward WHITE of Sunk Island extra parochial adjoining this parish, aged 30 > years and upwards and Elizabeth CALVERT of Thorgumbold Chapelry and of > this > parish, spinster, aged 30 years and upwards, by banns, 6th July 1814 > Both made mark, witnessed by Ann SCALES and Elizabeth WILSON OR MILSON. > > I looked on parlock and Kirby Wiske and Paull are 60 miles apart, don't > know > if this makes a difference to your theory. > > Best wishes, > Maureen > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-east-yorks-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-east-yorks-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mark > Sent: 30 January 2008 20:02 > To: ENG-EAST-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ENG-EAST-YORKS] Paull Marriage in 1814 WHITE-CALVERT > > Hello. > > I wonder if anyone has access to the Marriage registers for the village of > Paull? I suspect my 4 x great-grandmother Elizabeth CALVERT married Edward > WHITE there on 6 July 1814. > > Elizabeth WHITE married James Finkell at Kirby Wiske, North Yorks. on 5th > January 1821. Her status was not recorded but on her marriage certificate > for what I suspect was her FOURTH(!) marriage, her father is listed as > Thomas CALVERT, weaver. The only Elizabeth CALVERT I have found marrying a > WHITE around the right time is the Elizabeth of PAULL. I would be very > grateful if someone could check if the marital status is given in the 1814 > marriage register and also the names of witnesses. I'm also very > interested > in knowing where the two parties were from. > > Can anyone also help with a burial for Edward SMITH between 1814 and 1821? > > Thanks in advance for any help. > > Best wishes, > Mark > in Barcelona > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.16/1250 - Release Date: > 29/01/2008 > 22:20 > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1257 - Release Date: > 03/02/2008 > 17:49 > > > >

Quoting Jan Holmes <tigerjan775@hotmail.com>: > Thanks for this. It would explain why the Mill Street Methodist birth records > were on the IGI but not the marriage records. At one time, I dont recall the years, that in order to get "Parish Relief" you had to be baptised in the established church. A reason that your ancestors might not show as being married as they might not have been able to afford the fee charged by the minister & the Government. (yes another form of taxation).

Quoting Persis Wiltshire <persisndavid@talktalk.net>: > If you have only used the IGI information on the Primitive methodist family, > may I suggest you seek out the original records at Kew ( the National > Archives.) It is always wise, as is stated, to check the originals as there could be a mistake & there could be alot more info on the original. I have found that the original document has helped clarify things at times.

If you have only used the IGI information on the Primitive methodist family, may I suggest you seek out the original records at Kew ( the National Archives.) These were sent to the Registrar General in 1837 for many non-conformist churches, and often contain much more information that C of E books. The IGI indexes only the most basic information. The originals can often give details of occupation and grandparents which won't appear anywhere else. They are usually in RG4. But quite recently TNA established a website index of the names which will probably give the proper reference numbers. Persis

Thanks for this. It would explain why the Mill Street Methodist birth records were on the IGI but not the marriage records. Presumably then, they were married in a C of E church, and I will just have to keep on looking. Although I'm beginning to wonder if they were married at all.....!! Also a good explanation for why John was baptised twice, something I have wondered about for a long time. Regards, Jan > From: persisndavid@talktalk.net> To: eng-east-yorks@rootsweb.com> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 21:11:45 +0000> Subject: Re: [ENG-EAST-YORKS] RAWLING - Norton & Hull> > Given that one baptism was C of E and the other was Methodist, it is > certainly possible for a child to be baptised twice, once in each > denomination. Note that he was about 7 the second time. Perhaps this marked > the family's acceptance into the Hull church. Marriage records for > non-conformist churches like Primitive Methodist are not likely to exist too > early. Before 1837 all marriages ( except Quaker and Jew) had to be in the > C of E. After 1837, the Registrar usually attended at non-conformist > churches so the records will be at the Register office where you can only > access the information by buying a certificate. You might track down the > Registrars Notice Book which sometimes exist for a district - at least 7 > exist for some parts of Wiltshire. Try solicitors collections for these.> Good luck.> Persis> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jan Holmes" <tigerjan775@hotmail.com>> To: <eng-east-yorks@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 8:44 PM> Subject: [ENG-EAST-YORKS] RAWLING - Norton & Hull> > > > Hi,> >> > I'm new to this list and have too many East Yorkshire ancestors to list > > here.> >> > My own line is RAWLING. I've gone as far back as John RAWLING who married > > Christiana (Christy) LAPISH in Norton by Malton in 1799 (IGI). I haven't > > been able to find the births of either of these, (neither seem to have > > been born in Norton) but they are both buried in Sculcoates.> >> > Sometime between the birth of their youngest child, Harriet, and John's > > death in 1813 the family moved to Sculcoates, where presumably my 3x Great > > Grandfather met and married Elizabeth JOHNSON in or before 1830. I've been > > to Beverley a few times with the intention of finding the marriage and > > have searched most of the churches in both Sculcoates and Hull with no > > success.> >> > My Great, Great Grandfather John RAWLING seems to have had two > > baptisms....is this likely?> >>From the IGI there was a baptism of John RAWLIN (no G) with parents > >>William RAWLIN and Elizabeth in Sculcoates in 1830. There was also a joint > >>baptism of John RAWLING and his sisters Emma and Sophia at the Mill Street > >>Primitive Methodist church in Hull in 1837 with parents William RAWLING > >>and Elizabeth JOHNSON.> >> > So my questions are these. Is it likely that my GG Grandfather had 2 > > baptisms? Would the marriage records for Mill Street Primitive be in the > > Hull Archives? (They are not in Beverley).> >> > I would love to find someone on this list who has any of my ancestors in > > their tree.> >> > Regards,> >> > Jan Holmes> >> >> >> >> >> >> > _________________________________________________________________> > Get Hotmail on your mobile, text MSN to 63463!> > http://mobile.uk.msn.com/pc/mail.aspx> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message> >> >> > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message.> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.> > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1256 - Release Date: 2/2/2008 > > 13:50> >> > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Share what Santa brought you https://www.mycooluncool.com

Given that one baptism was C of E and the other was Methodist, it is certainly possible for a child to be baptised twice, once in each denomination. Note that he was about 7 the second time. Perhaps this marked the family's acceptance into the Hull church. Marriage records for non-conformist churches like Primitive Methodist are not likely to exist too early. Before 1837 all marriages ( except Quaker and Jew) had to be in the C of E. After 1837, the Registrar usually attended at non-conformist churches so the records will be at the Register office where you can only access the information by buying a certificate. You might track down the Registrars Notice Book which sometimes exist for a district - at least 7 exist for some parts of Wiltshire. Try solicitors collections for these. Good luck. Persis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Holmes" <tigerjan775@hotmail.com> To: <eng-east-yorks@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 8:44 PM Subject: [ENG-EAST-YORKS] RAWLING - Norton & Hull > Hi, > > I'm new to this list and have too many East Yorkshire ancestors to list > here. > > My own line is RAWLING. I've gone as far back as John RAWLING who married > Christiana (Christy) LAPISH in Norton by Malton in 1799 (IGI). I haven't > been able to find the births of either of these, (neither seem to have > been born in Norton) but they are both buried in Sculcoates. > > Sometime between the birth of their youngest child, Harriet, and John's > death in 1813 the family moved to Sculcoates, where presumably my 3x Great > Grandfather met and married Elizabeth JOHNSON in or before 1830. I've been > to Beverley a few times with the intention of finding the marriage and > have searched most of the churches in both Sculcoates and Hull with no > success. > > My Great, Great Grandfather John RAWLING seems to have had two > baptisms....is this likely? >>From the IGI there was a baptism of John RAWLIN (no G) with parents >>William RAWLIN and Elizabeth in Sculcoates in 1830. There was also a joint >>baptism of John RAWLING and his sisters Emma and Sophia at the Mill Street >>Primitive Methodist church in Hull in 1837 with parents William RAWLING >>and Elizabeth JOHNSON. > > So my questions are these. Is it likely that my GG Grandfather had 2 > baptisms? Would the marriage records for Mill Street Primitive be in the > Hull Archives? (They are not in Beverley). > > I would love to find someone on this list who has any of my ancestors in > their tree. > > Regards, > > Jan Holmes > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get Hotmail on your mobile, text MSN to 63463! > http://mobile.uk.msn.com/pc/mail.aspx > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1256 - Release Date: 2/2/2008 > 13:50 > >

Hi, I'm new to this list and have too many East Yorkshire ancestors to list here. My own line is RAWLING. I've gone as far back as John RAWLING who married Christiana (Christy) LAPISH in Norton by Malton in 1799 (IGI). I haven't been able to find the births of either of these, (neither seem to have been born in Norton) but they are both buried in Sculcoates. Sometime between the birth of their youngest child, Harriet, and John's death in 1813 the family moved to Sculcoates, where presumably my 3x Great Grandfather met and married Elizabeth JOHNSON in or before 1830. I've been to Beverley a few times with the intention of finding the marriage and have searched most of the churches in both Sculcoates and Hull with no success. My Great, Great Grandfather John RAWLING seems to have had two baptisms....is this likely? >From the IGI there was a baptism of John RAWLIN (no G) with parents William RAWLIN and Elizabeth in Sculcoates in 1830. There was also a joint baptism of John RAWLING and his sisters Emma and Sophia at the Mill Street Primitive Methodist church in Hull in 1837 with parents William RAWLING and Elizabeth JOHNSON. So my questions are these. Is it likely that my GG Grandfather had 2 baptisms? Would the marriage records for Mill Street Primitive be in the Hull Archives? (They are not in Beverley). I would love to find someone on this list who has any of my ancestors in their tree. Regards, Jan Holmes _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile, text MSN to 63463! http://mobile.uk.msn.com/pc/mail.aspx

Hi Mark, I was at Beverley Archives today and looked up the marriage at Paull: Edward WHITE of Sunk Island extra parochial adjoining this parish, aged 30 years and upwards and Elizabeth CALVERT of Thorgumbold Chapelry and of this parish, spinster, aged 30 years and upwards, by banns, 6th July 1814 Both made mark, witnessed by Ann SCALES and Elizabeth WILSON OR MILSON. I looked on parlock and Kirby Wiske and Paull are 60 miles apart, don't know if this makes a difference to your theory. Best wishes, Maureen -----Original Message----- From: eng-east-yorks-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-east-yorks-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mark Sent: 30 January 2008 20:02 To: ENG-EAST-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-EAST-YORKS] Paull Marriage in 1814 WHITE-CALVERT Hello. I wonder if anyone has access to the Marriage registers for the village of Paull? I suspect my 4 x great-grandmother Elizabeth CALVERT married Edward WHITE there on 6 July 1814. Elizabeth WHITE married James Finkell at Kirby Wiske, North Yorks. on 5th January 1821. Her status was not recorded but on her marriage certificate for what I suspect was her FOURTH(!) marriage, her father is listed as Thomas CALVERT, weaver. The only Elizabeth CALVERT I have found marrying a WHITE around the right time is the Elizabeth of PAULL. I would be very grateful if someone could check if the marital status is given in the 1814 marriage register and also the names of witnesses. I'm also very interested in knowing where the two parties were from. Can anyone also help with a burial for Edward SMITH between 1814 and 1821? Thanks in advance for any help. Best wishes, Mark in Barcelona ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.16/1250 - Release Date: 29/01/2008 22:20 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1257 - Release Date: 03/02/2008 17:49

Hi listers Anyone reseaching the above family? Cheers LL No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1257 - Release Date: 03/02/2008 17:49

Thanks everybody for the help Ced Good -----Original Message----- From: eng-east-yorks-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-east-yorks-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of JUDITH KETTLEWELL Sent: Friday, 1 February 2008 7:14 PM To: eng-east-yorks@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-EAST-YORKS] For the Goodies Hi Don Yes, my mistake, it should have read 'subscribe'. I should have quoted the following and changed it to subscribe. To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message JK Don Coulson <dcoulson@ntlworld.com> wrote: Hi J.K. Shouldn't that read "subscribe", and be in the "subject"?? Regards, Don. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Kettlewell" To: Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 9:33 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-EAST-YORKS] For the Goodies > Hi > > This is the list for the West Riding of Yorkshire:- > > WEST-RIDING-L-request@rootsweb.com > > Just put unsubscribe in the body of the message. > > Kind regards > > Judith K > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.18/1254 - Release Date: 31/01/2008 8:30 PM

I have just completed a biography on my George KENDALL tonight in which I carried out some research on where he was buried in Hull. Then later on the north side of the lane was opened up for burials. Sadly these cemeteries on the north and south were badly neglected, (and still are!!)The council started to clear the land and removed headstones to run into paths fortunately the EYFHS managed to record many of the memorial inscriptions before the stones were destroyed. Best Wishes Maria ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam

Friends, Another query that some one may be be able to suggest some answers to. I am trying to find a grave yard that Francis Pickering, who lived in Sissons Row, Hull, died in 1886. I can see from a current Hull Street map, a Sissons Way (could be a renaming?), nearby I see St Helena Cemetery near Sculcoates Lane, I also see another unnamed Grave yard beside Air Street, the continuation of Sculcoates Lane. He was Church of England. Could anyone suggest where he might be buried? I haven't found any other graves for any of this family - what does this mean - they were too poor / they went into unmarked graves? I'd appreciate any ideas. Kind regards Deirdra Pickering

I'm looking for information on Sarah as she is a little bit of a mystery woman. What I know is the following for her- Born - abt 1795 but I have no idea where Died - 23 Jul 1839 at Berwick_upon_Tweed Married - Charles SALSBURY in Saint Peter, Leeds, Yorkshire, on 15 Fen 1825 If anyone has any ideas on her I'd love to hear from you. Gary in Sunny Queensland, Australia. Genealogy Page <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liddellfamily/>http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~liddellfamily/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.18/1254 - Release Date: 31/01/2008 8:30 PM

Hi Don Yes, my mistake, it should have read 'subscribe'. I should have quoted the following and changed it to subscribe. To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WEST-RIDING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message JK Don Coulson <dcoulson@ntlworld.com> wrote: Hi J.K. Shouldn't that read "subscribe", and be in the "subject"?? Regards, Don. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Kettlewell" To: Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 9:33 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-EAST-YORKS] For the Goodies > Hi > > This is the list for the West Riding of Yorkshire:- > > WEST-RIDING-L-request@rootsweb.com > > Just put unsubscribe in the body of the message. > > Kind regards > > Judith K > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi J.K. Shouldn't that read "subscribe", and be in the "subject"?? Regards, Don. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Kettlewell" <judith.kettlewell@btinternet.com> To: <eng-east-yorks@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 9:33 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-EAST-YORKS] For the Goodies > Hi > > This is the list for the West Riding of Yorkshire:- > > WEST-RIDING-L-request@rootsweb.com > > Just put unsubscribe in the body of the message. > > Kind regards > > Judith K > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi This is the list for the West Riding of Yorkshire:- WEST-RIDING-L-request@rootsweb.com Just put unsubscribe in the body of the message. Kind regards Judith K

Hi Everyone Looking for Rowland/Robert Good b. Bradford 1879 and m. Edith Emma Dixon Bridlington Dec Qtr 1900 - can anyone tell me what happened to him after marriage. He turned up in Christchurch ND c.1905 and married again. Looking for any family in Bridlington. Secondly can someone tell me the West Yorkshire version of this site. Ced Good

Try- YORKSGEN-L-request@rootsweb.com In subject enter Subscribe also in message ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan & Ned" <the.goodies@bigpond.com> To: <eng-east-yorks@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 2:14 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-EAST-YORKS] Christmas weddings = solved > Hi Everyone > > Looking for Rowland/Robert Good b. Bradford 1879 and m. Edith Emma Dixon > Bridlington Dec Qtr 1900 - can anyone tell me what happened to him after > marriage. He turned up in Christchurch ND c.1905 and married again. > Looking > for any family in Bridlington. > > Secondly can someone tell me the West Yorkshire version of this site. > > Ced Good > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message