You are unlikely to find anything about the trip to Canada. As an English colony, there was no need for records such as were kept for entry to the USA. But have a look at Olive Tree Genealogy website - they specialise in Canadian material of that period. Another possibility is that they travelled through the USA to reach Canada. The lakes were used as roads, with regular services along the coasts. As to the names, have you checked the original record to see what is recorded for the entry above? Sometimes the scribe used the same names twice rather than the actual name, having lost his place copying up from notes. I've done it myself when doing a transcription. Persis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Holmes" <tigerjan775@hotmail.com> To: <eng-east-yorks@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 7:18 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-EAST-YORKS] PLAXTON Cottingham > Hi Gillian, > > Thanks for the information. These baptisms tie in with what I already > have, and the death of Charles is certainly very interesting. I had no > idea before I noticed the ancestry connection that Charles had left > England, and the information you have given me certainly ties in with > everything I had known previously about him. > > A search on the IGI brings up several children of Charles and Mary, the > latest being John in 1829. I have never had the need to search anywhere > other than England, but a further search of the IGI for Ontario, Canada > has a LDS member submitted baptism of a child of Charles PLAXTON and Mary > TRAIN in Barrie, Ontario in 1837. My trusty genealogical friend Mapquest > has a distance of 139 miles between Simcoe where Charles died and Barrie > where his seemingly last child was born. Several thousand miles closer > than Charles' own birth in Cottingham, so this seems very feasible. > > Do you (or does anyone else) know of a database where I could look up the > voyage of Charles, Mary and the children to Canada? It seems to have been > in the years between the baptisms of John in 1829 and Mary Ann in 1837. If > I could prove that it was before 1835 then I would also be certain that > Ellen was the daughter of George and Ellen and not the product of an > illicit affair between George's wife and his brother......!!!! My feeling > is that the vicar or whoever wrote up the notes made a mistake, but I > would like to prove this. > > Regards, > > Jan > > > >> From: mtamas@telus.net> To: eng-east-yorks@rootsweb.com> Date: Fri, 4 Apr >> 2008 18:38:18 -0700> Subject: Re: [ENG-EAST-YORKS] PLAXTON Cottingham> > >> >From the IGI after looking at the Canadian death record....> > Charles >> PLAXTON, Christening: 13 Apr 1795, Cottingham, Yorks.> Father: Wm. >> PLAXTON> Mother: Elizabeth> Batch: C106642> > George PLAXTON, >> Christening: 11 Dec, 1808, Cottingham, Yorks.> Father: William PLAXTON> >> Mother: Elisabeth> Batch: C106642> > Also in the same batch with same >> parent's names...> Ann PLAXTON, Christened 14 Apr, 1799> Hannah PLAXTON, >> Christened 3 Apr 1805> Mary PLAXTON, Christened 3 Mar 1790> Thomas >> PLAXTON, Christened 15 May 1811> Frances PLAXTON, Christened 2 Apr 1797> >> John PLAXTON, Christened 19 Apr 1802> Elizabeth PLAXTON, Christened 3 Aug >> 1787> William PLAXTON, Christened 12 Nov 1792> > Cheers,> Gill> >> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please >> send an email to ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubs! > cribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > _________________________________________________________________ > The next generation of Windows Live is here > http://www.windowslive.co.uk/get-live > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.5/1356 - Release Date: 4/2/2008 > 16:14 > >

Hi Maria, No, I didn't check the original record, but the assistant in the Doncaster archives assured me that their index in book form was copied exactly from the baptism record and this agreed with the IGI version. Unfortunately they don't have a photocopying facility, otherwise I would certainly have asked for a copy from microfiche. I do have William Benjamin's birth certificate, which gives his name as William Benjamin son of Sarah Jane, and no father mentioned. Sarah was unmarried at the time and didn't marry until a few years later. Incidentally I had hoped that the Doncaster archives might have poor relief records, which occasionally (so I'm told) lists a father in the case of unmarried mothers applying for relief, but it seems that someone in the 1900s decided to throw away the records for a good 50 years in the 19th century thinking they were of no use to anyone!! Great, thanks a lot for that!!! A story passed down to me from an aunt was that Sarah, a servant around the time of William's birth, became pregnant by the master of the house. I am assured that if this was the case the facts will have been well and truly hushed up, but in fact the father was probably another servant....possibly called Benjamin.....!!! I am determined to find out the father of at least one of the many illegitimate children scattered around both my past and my husband's, but sadly not this one. Regards, Jan > From: maria.borrill@ntlworld.com> To: eng-east-yorks@rootsweb.com> Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 09:28:40 +0100> Subject: [ENG-EAST-YORKS] Re PLAXTON Cottingham> > Hi Jan> I have just dropped in on the end of this thread, you wrote <quote> ....but the IGI baptism gives his father as Benjamin. Instead of William Benjamin son of Sarah Jane <quote>> Not sure from your message, If you had checked the original baptism record rather that the IGI? If only the later could it by a translation error and William's second name having been mistook for his father, just a thought> > Maria> > > Best Wishes> Maria> > -----------------------------------------> Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email> Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam> > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ The next generation of Windows Live is here http://www.windowslive.co.uk/get-live

Thanks, I'll check Olive Tree, I might be lucky. The microfiche record is extremely difficult to read, I printed it out in black on white and white on black, but I'm pretty sure it does say Charles and not George (I have it in front of me now). I maybe should have asked to see the original, but as both the IGI and I myself thought it was Charles, I didn't think it worth looking. I did wonder if Charles could have been godfather and they got the names mixed up, but it's likely that in trying to prove he was out of the country and couldn't be the father, I will also be proving he could equally not be godfather, as I'm sure that George had siblings much closer to home who could fill the role!! Regards, Jan > From: persisndavid@talktalk.net> To: eng-east-yorks@rootsweb.com> Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 09:20:43 +0100> Subject: Re: [ENG-EAST-YORKS] PLAXTON Cottingham> > You are unlikely to find anything about the trip to Canada. As an English > colony, there was no need for records such as were kept for entry to the > USA. But have a look at Olive Tree Genealogy website - they specialise in > Canadian material of that period. Another possibility is that they > travelled through the USA to reach Canada. The lakes were used as roads, > with regular services along the coasts.> As to the names, have you checked the original record to see what is > recorded for the entry above? Sometimes the scribe used the same names > twice rather than the actual name, having lost his place copying up from > notes. I've done it myself when doing a transcription.> Persis> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jan Holmes" <tigerjan775@hotmail.com>> To: <eng-east-yorks@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 7:18 AM> Subject: Re: [ENG-EAST-YORKS] PLAXTON Cottingham> > > > Hi Gillian,> >> > Thanks for the information. These baptisms tie in with what I already > > have, and the death of Charles is certainly very interesting. I had no > > idea before I noticed the ancestry connection that Charles had left > > England, and the information you have given me certainly ties in with > > everything I had known previously about him.> >> > A search on the IGI brings up several children of Charles and Mary, the > > latest being John in 1829. I have never had the need to search anywhere > > other than England, but a further search of the IGI for Ontario, Canada > > has a LDS member submitted baptism of a child of Charles PLAXTON and Mary > > TRAIN in Barrie, Ontario in 1837. My trusty genealogical friend Mapquest > > has a distance of 139 miles between Simcoe where Charles died and Barrie > > where his seemingly last child was born. Several thousand miles closer > > than Charles' own birth in Cottingham, so this seems very feasible.> >> > Do you (or does anyone else) know of a database where I could look up the > > voyage of Charles, Mary and the children to Canada? It seems to have been > > in the years between the baptisms of John in 1829 and Mary Ann in 1837. If > > I could prove that it was before 1835 then I would also be certain that > > Ellen was the daughter of George and Ellen and not the product of an > > illicit affair between George's wife and his brother......!!!! My feeling > > is that the vicar or whoever wrote up the notes made a mistake, but I > > would like to prove this.> >> > Regards,> >> > Jan> >> >> >> >> From: mtamas@telus.net> To: eng-east-yorks@rootsweb.com> Date: Fri, 4 Apr > >> 2008 18:38:18 -0700> Subject: Re: [ENG-EAST-YORKS] PLAXTON Cottingham> > > >> >From the IGI after looking at the Canadian death record....> > Charles > >> PLAXTON, Christening: 13 Apr 1795, Cottingham, Yorks.> Father: Wm. > >> PLAXTON> Mother: Elizabeth> Batch: C106642> > George PLAXTON, > >> Christening: 11 Dec, 1808, Cottingham, Yorks.> Father: William PLAXTON> > >> Mother: Elisabeth> Batch: C106642> > Also in the same batch with same > >> parent's names...> Ann PLAXTON, Christened 14 Apr, 1799> Hannah PLAXTON, > >> Christened 3 Apr 1805> Mary PLAXTON, Christened 3 Mar 1790> Thomas > >> PLAXTON, Christened 15 May 1811> Frances PLAXTON, Christened 2 Apr 1797> > >> John PLAXTON, Christened 19 Apr 1802> Elizabeth PLAXTON, Christened 3 Aug > >> 1787> William PLAXTON, Christened 12 Nov 1792> > Cheers,> Gill> > >> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please > >> send an email to ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word > >> 'unsubs!> > cribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > _________________________________________________________________> > The next generation of Windows Live is here> > http://www.windowslive.co.uk/get-live> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message> >> >> > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message.> > Checked by AVG.> > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.5/1356 - Release Date: 4/2/2008 > > 16:14> >> > > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ The next generation of Windows Live is here http://www.windowslive.co.uk/get-live

Hi Judith, You are most welcome! When searching the census on Ancestry.com, I found them by first looking on the 1851 by putting in the information you supplied to get their years of birth. When searching the 1841 I just put in William (no surname), searching in county Yorkshire, and put Hull in the Keyword box, then clicked search. This gave me 628 matches, which was a few to many, so I hand wrote VINSON on a piece of paper and used my imagination on how the V could be misread! I then looked for a William with an Ann as his spouse. I have found many people on the census using this method. When searching other census records, you don't end up with as many results as you can put in the spouse name, which of course makes it a lot easier. I thought this little tip may help yourself and other's on the list. Cheers Wendy Perth, West Aust Judith Kettlewell wrote: > Hello Wendy > > Thank you so very much for looking for my VINSON's. I knew another pair of > eyes would find them. > > I must admit that PINSON is not one of the variations I looked at. > > I am most grateful to you for your help and hope that I might be able to > reciprocate one day. > > Thank you. > > Kind reagrds > > Judith > > > > >

Hi Jan, This PLAXTON was also listed but whether he is the son of your Charles I don't know. Maybe wife Mary TRAVIS is a mistranscription???..... Deaths: PLAXTON, George, m, September 15, 1908, 75 years 7 months 8 days, Albion Twp Peel Co, cause - senile decay & entero colitis, s/o Charles Plaxton & Mary Travis, both born Yorkshire England, infm - Chas. W. Plaxton, Barrie (Simcoe Co.) 026390-08 I can't help with the immigration record. I've looked at the ancestry stuff but I can't see anything that fits. Gill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Holmes" <tigerjan775@hotmail.com> To: <eng-east-yorks@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 11:18 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-EAST-YORKS] PLAXTON Cottingham > Hi Gillian, > > Thanks for the information. These baptisms tie in with what I already > have, and the death of Charles is certainly very interesting. I had no > idea before I noticed the ancestry connection that Charles had left > England, and the information you have given me certainly ties in with > everything I had known previously about him. > > A search on the IGI brings up several children of Charles and Mary, the > latest being John in 1829. I have never had the need to search anywhere > other than England, but a further search of the IGI for Ontario, Canada > has a LDS member submitted baptism of a child of Charles PLAXTON and Mary > TRAIN in Barrie, Ontario in 1837. My trusty genealogical friend Mapquest > has a distance of 139 miles between Simcoe where Charles died and Barrie > where his seemingly last child was born. Several thousand miles closer > than Charles' own birth in Cottingham, so this seems very feasible. > > Do you (or does anyone else) know of a database where I could look up the > voyage of Charles, Mary and the children to Canada? It seems to have been > in the years between the baptisms of John in 1829 and Mary Ann in 1837. If > I could prove that it was before 1835 then I would also be certain that > Ellen was the daughter of George and Ellen and not the product of an > illicit affair between George's wife and his brother......!!!! My feeling > is that the vicar or whoever wrote up the notes made a mistake, but I > would like to prove this. > > Regards, > > Jan > > > >> From: mtamas@telus.net> To: eng-east-yorks@rootsweb.com> Date: Fri, 4 Apr >> 2008 18:38:18 -0700> Subject: Re: [ENG-EAST-YORKS] PLAXTON Cottingham> > >> >From the IGI after looking at the Canadian death record....> > Charles >> PLAXTON, Christening: 13 Apr 1795, Cottingham, Yorks.> Father: Wm. >> PLAXTON> Mother: Elizabeth> Batch: C106642> > George PLAXTON, >> Christening: 11 Dec, 1808, Cottingham, Yorks.> Father: William PLAXTON> >> Mother: Elisabeth> Batch: C106642> > Also in the same batch with same >> parent's names...> Ann PLAXTON, Christened 14 Apr, 1799> Hannah PLAXTON, >> Christened 3 Apr 1805> Mary PLAXTON, Christened 3 Mar 1790> Thomas >> PLAXTON, Christened 15 May 1811> Frances PLAXTON, Christened 2 Apr 1797> >> John PLAXTON, Christened 19 Apr 1802> Elizabeth PLAXTON, Christened 3 Aug >> 1787> William PLAXTON, Christened 12 Nov 1792> > Cheers,> Gill> >> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please >> send an email to ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubs! > cribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > _________________________________________________________________ > The next generation of Windows Live is here > http://www.windowslive.co.uk/get-live > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Gillian, Thanks for the information. These baptisms tie in with what I already have, and the death of Charles is certainly very interesting. I had no idea before I noticed the ancestry connection that Charles had left England, and the information you have given me certainly ties in with everything I had known previously about him. A search on the IGI brings up several children of Charles and Mary, the latest being John in 1829. I have never had the need to search anywhere other than England, but a further search of the IGI for Ontario, Canada has a LDS member submitted baptism of a child of Charles PLAXTON and Mary TRAIN in Barrie, Ontario in 1837. My trusty genealogical friend Mapquest has a distance of 139 miles between Simcoe where Charles died and Barrie where his seemingly last child was born. Several thousand miles closer than Charles' own birth in Cottingham, so this seems very feasible. Do you (or does anyone else) know of a database where I could look up the voyage of Charles, Mary and the children to Canada? It seems to have been in the years between the baptisms of John in 1829 and Mary Ann in 1837. If I could prove that it was before 1835 then I would also be certain that Ellen was the daughter of George and Ellen and not the product of an illicit affair between George's wife and his brother......!!!! My feeling is that the vicar or whoever wrote up the notes made a mistake, but I would like to prove this. Regards, Jan > From: mtamas@telus.net> To: eng-east-yorks@rootsweb.com> Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 18:38:18 -0700> Subject: Re: [ENG-EAST-YORKS] PLAXTON Cottingham> > >>From the IGI after looking at the Canadian death record....> > Charles PLAXTON, Christening: 13 Apr 1795, Cottingham, Yorks.> Father: Wm. PLAXTON> Mother: Elizabeth> Batch: C106642> > George PLAXTON, Christening: 11 Dec, 1808, Cottingham, Yorks.> Father: William PLAXTON> Mother: Elisabeth> Batch: C106642> > Also in the same batch with same parent's names...> Ann PLAXTON, Christened 14 Apr, 1799> Hannah PLAXTON, Christened 3 Apr 1805> Mary PLAXTON, Christened 3 Mar 1790> Thomas PLAXTON, Christened 15 May 1811> Frances PLAXTON, Christened 2 Apr 1797> John PLAXTON, Christened 19 Apr 1802> Elizabeth PLAXTON, Christened 3 Aug 1787> William PLAXTON, Christened 12 Nov 1792> > Cheers,> Gill> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ The next generation of Windows Live is here http://www.windowslive.co.uk/get-live

Thanks Victor. I too have marriage certificates with a different father and the wrong ages. In all but one though, the father was a made up one due to illegitimacy (which caused me many problems when I was just starting out, thinking that this was a legal document and therefore must be true!!!) As I began to realise what you have just mentioned, that they obviously didn't need to provide proof of any of the facts, I realised that the ages didn't necessarily have to be true, either. Perhaps a minor couldn't get parental consent and looked older so said she was, or to make the couple's ages closer if one was much older or the woman was older than the man...I've had all of these. In this case I'm pretty sure that Ellen and James were both the age they said they were...19. The strange thing to me is that the baptism seems to be a mix of right mother wrong father, or right father wrong mother!! Did Charles have an affair with Ellen?? I've just checked up in Doncaster this week too about my GG Grandfather. His name was William Benjamin, illegitimate son of Sarah Jane. I have his birth certificate with no father, but the IGI baptism gives his father as Benjamin. Instead of William Benjamin son of Sarah Jane, the baptism record said William son of Benjamin and Sarah Jane. It seems to me that the vicar misheard (although it is likely that William may have been named after his unknown father). So mistakes can happen.....are George and Charles close enough to have been misheard? Regards, Jan PS I know your name well from another source entirely, though I myself have never spoken to you. Do you think the Tigers have a chance of going up? :))))) > Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 21:08:11 +0100> From: victor@markham.me.uk> To: eng-east-yorks@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [ENG-EAST-YORKS] PLAXTON Cottingham> > Jan> > What appears on the marriage certificate is what the couple told the > person writing it up. It is not always true and no one had to provide > evidence that they were stating facts. The marriage of my father to his > first wife showed his fathers name as Thomas when it was in fact George > Henry, which is the name he gave when he married my mother.> > Victor> > Jan Holmes wrote:> > Hi All,> > > > I am trying to unravel a mystery surrounding my husband's GG grandmother Ellen PLAXTON, I have been to the archives at Beverley today to check, and have come back more confused than ever!> > > > Ellen's marriage to James MORLEY in 1855 gives her age on the certificate as 19 and her father as George PLAXTON, which points to a birth in 1836. The IGI and the Cottingham microfiche have a baptism for Ellen PLAXTON in 1836, father Charles (!!) mother Ellen, and one in 1832 with a father George and mother Ellen. Ellen's census shows her age matching a birth in 1835/36, and she was buried in Cottingham cemetery in 1900, where the age on her headstone is 65. > > > > The IGI has a marriage in 1827 of George PLAXTON and Ellen DOPER (on the microfiche it definitely isn't DOPER, though it is difficult to tell exactly what is does say) and a marriage of Charles PLAXTON and Mary TRAIN (not Ellen!) in 1819. (I think this Charles is the older brother of George). My FTM 2008 software brings up an Ancestry One World Tree match for Charles suggesting he died in Ontario, Canada and I haven't been able to find him on any English census. Ellen is living with George and Ellen in 1851, in 1841 aged 5 she is living with William and Elizabeth KIRMAN.....I haven't even begun to look at their connection with this puzzle yet!!> > > > So I have 3 questions.> > 1. Does anyone have any of these Cottingham PLAXTONS in their tree and can shed any light on any of this?> > 2. Is it likely the PR could be wrong?> > 3. Does anyone know where I can find out if and when Charles went to Canada, and who went with him?> > > > Hoping someone can help.> > > > Jan Holmes> > > > > > _________________________________________________________________> > Get Hotmail on your mobile. Text MSN to 63463 now!> > http://mobile.uk.msn.com/pc/mail.aspx> > > > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > > > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Amazing prizes every hour with Live Search Big Snap http://www.bigsnapsearch.com

Which, Deb, is why I was asking. In my experience, there were so few Deborahs that if anyone's researches included a Deborah between about 1780 and the mid 1800s there is the slim chance that, because of possible family naming traditions, there could be a connection back to my Deborah Weddell (nee Webster) born Hull 1764. (We do clutch at straws sometimes!) Bill. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deb Walker" <deb.m.walker@ntlworld.com> To: "EastYorks Genealogy Group" <ENG-EAST-YORKS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 11:14 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-EAST-YORKS] DEBORAH | Hi all | | I was quite surprised to read that this name was 25th in the top 50 girls | names in 1700 - I had no idea it was that popular and if asked to guess I | would have said at that time it came much lower down the list. | | As an illustration - if you take my current database of some 16,500 people | of which probably about half are female I only have 7 Deborahs and of those | 5 were born after the mid 20th century (including me !!). The name itself | became very popular in the 1950s and 1960s and there were always loads of | Deborahs in my class at school, but like many names it seems to have fallen | into disuse again and in the 400 plus primary school where I work today we | don't have a single one on roll. | | As a genealogist I am always delighted to come across a more unusual in the | course of my research - it makes such a pleasant change from all those Anns, | Sarahs and Marys. ! | | Bye for now | | Deb | Mirfield WRY | | No virus found in this outgoing message. | Checked by AVG. | Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.5/1359 - Release Date: 04/04/2008 | 08:23 | | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message |

Hi Judith, Found them under PINSON. Image sent offlist. Cheers Wendy Wendy wrote: > Hi Judith, > > What year/places were William, Ann and their children born? This would > help to track them down. > > Cheers > Wendy > Perth, West Aust > >

Hi Judith, What year/places were William, Ann and their children born? This would help to track them down. Cheers Wendy Perth, West Aust Judith Kettlewell wrote: > Hello Listers > > I wonder if anyone can help me please with my husband's family history. > > I am looking for William VINSON in the 1841 census and so far I have been unable to find him and his family. > > I have him in 1851 in Hull where he has been most unhelpful by just using initials for the names of his children! > > I have tried to use different spellings for the surname but, alas, to no avail. > > His wife was named Ann and there should be at least three children with them all born Hull. There were two others born after the 1841 census and I have their names, both born Hull. > > If anyone would have a go at trying to find this family I would be more than grateful. > > With many thanks > > Kind regards > > Judith Kettlewell > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Jan What appears on the marriage certificate is what the couple told the person writing it up. It is not always true and no one had to provide evidence that they were stating facts. The marriage of my father to his first wife showed his fathers name as Thomas when it was in fact George Henry, which is the name he gave when he married my mother. Victor Jan Holmes wrote: > Hi All, > > I am trying to unravel a mystery surrounding my husband's GG grandmother Ellen PLAXTON, I have been to the archives at Beverley today to check, and have come back more confused than ever! > > Ellen's marriage to James MORLEY in 1855 gives her age on the certificate as 19 and her father as George PLAXTON, which points to a birth in 1836. The IGI and the Cottingham microfiche have a baptism for Ellen PLAXTON in 1836, father Charles (!!) mother Ellen, and one in 1832 with a father George and mother Ellen. Ellen's census shows her age matching a birth in 1835/36, and she was buried in Cottingham cemetery in 1900, where the age on her headstone is 65. > > The IGI has a marriage in 1827 of George PLAXTON and Ellen DOPER (on the microfiche it definitely isn't DOPER, though it is difficult to tell exactly what is does say) and a marriage of Charles PLAXTON and Mary TRAIN (not Ellen!) in 1819. (I think this Charles is the older brother of George). My FTM 2008 software brings up an Ancestry One World Tree match for Charles suggesting he died in Ontario, Canada and I haven't been able to find him on any English census. Ellen is living with George and Ellen in 1851, in 1841 aged 5 she is living with William and Elizabeth KIRMAN.....I haven't even begun to look at their connection with this puzzle yet!! > > So I have 3 questions. > 1. Does anyone have any of these Cottingham PLAXTONS in their tree and can shed any light on any of this? > 2. Is it likely the PR could be wrong? > 3. Does anyone know where I can find out if and when Charles went to Canada, and who went with him? > > Hoping someone can help. > > Jan Holmes > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get Hotmail on your mobile. Text MSN to 63463 now! > http://mobile.uk.msn.com/pc/mail.aspx > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi All, I am trying to unravel a mystery surrounding my husband's GG grandmother Ellen PLAXTON, I have been to the archives at Beverley today to check, and have come back more confused than ever! Ellen's marriage to James MORLEY in 1855 gives her age on the certificate as 19 and her father as George PLAXTON, which points to a birth in 1836. The IGI and the Cottingham microfiche have a baptism for Ellen PLAXTON in 1836, father Charles (!!) mother Ellen, and one in 1832 with a father George and mother Ellen. Ellen's census shows her age matching a birth in 1835/36, and she was buried in Cottingham cemetery in 1900, where the age on her headstone is 65. The IGI has a marriage in 1827 of George PLAXTON and Ellen DOPER (on the microfiche it definitely isn't DOPER, though it is difficult to tell exactly what is does say) and a marriage of Charles PLAXTON and Mary TRAIN (not Ellen!) in 1819. (I think this Charles is the older brother of George). My FTM 2008 software brings up an Ancestry One World Tree match for Charles suggesting he died in Ontario, Canada and I haven't been able to find him on any English census. Ellen is living with George and Ellen in 1851, in 1841 aged 5 she is living with William and Elizabeth KIRMAN.....I haven't even begun to look at their connection with this puzzle yet!! So I have 3 questions. 1. Does anyone have any of these Cottingham PLAXTONS in their tree and can shed any light on any of this? 2. Is it likely the PR could be wrong? 3. Does anyone know where I can find out if and when Charles went to Canada, and who went with him? Hoping someone can help. Jan Holmes _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile. Text MSN to 63463 now! http://mobile.uk.msn.com/pc/mail.aspx

Hello Wendy Thank you so very much for looking for my VINSON's. I knew another pair of eyes would find them. I must admit that PINSON is not one of the variations I looked at. I am most grateful to you for your help and hope that I might be able to reciprocate one day. Thank you. Kind reagrds Judith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wendy" <wgb@iinet.net.au> To: <eng-east-yorks@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 3:49 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-EAST-YORKS] VINSON help please > Hi Judith, > > Found them under PINSON. Image sent offlist. > > Cheers > Wendy > > Wendy wrote: >> Hi Judith, >> >> What year/places were William, Ann and their children born? This would >> help to track them down. >> >> Cheers >> Wendy >> Perth, West Aust >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1 - Release Date: 26/03/2008 > 00:00 > >

>From the IGI after looking at the Canadian death record.... Charles PLAXTON, Christening: 13 Apr 1795, Cottingham, Yorks. Father: Wm. PLAXTON Mother: Elizabeth Batch: C106642 George PLAXTON, Christening: 11 Dec, 1808, Cottingham, Yorks. Father: William PLAXTON Mother: Elisabeth Batch: C106642 Also in the same batch with same parent's names... Ann PLAXTON, Christened 14 Apr, 1799 Hannah PLAXTON, Christened 3 Apr 1805 Mary PLAXTON, Christened 3 Mar 1790 Thomas PLAXTON, Christened 15 May 1811 Frances PLAXTON, Christened 2 Apr 1797 John PLAXTON, Christened 19 Apr 1802 Elizabeth PLAXTON, Christened 3 Aug 1787 William PLAXTON, Christened 12 Nov 1792 Cheers, Gill

Ooops. Forgot the source.... Source Citation: Roll: MS935_6. Source Information: Ancestry.com. Ontario, Canada Deaths, 1869-1934 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2007. Gill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Holmes" <tigerjan775@hotmail.com> To: <eng-east-yorks@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 12:38 PM Subject: [ENG-EAST-YORKS] PLAXTON Cottingham > Hi All, > > I am trying to unravel a mystery surrounding my husband's GG grandmother > Ellen PLAXTON, I have been to the archives at Beverley today to check, and > have come back more confused than ever! > > Ellen's marriage to James MORLEY in 1855 gives her age on the certificate > as 19 and her father as George PLAXTON, which points to a birth in 1836. > The IGI and the Cottingham microfiche have a baptism for Ellen PLAXTON in > 1836, father Charles (!!) mother Ellen, and one in 1832 with a father > George and mother Ellen. Ellen's census shows her age matching a birth in > 1835/36, and she was buried in Cottingham cemetery in 1900, where the age > on her headstone is 65. > > The IGI has a marriage in 1827 of George PLAXTON and Ellen DOPER (on the > microfiche it definitely isn't DOPER, though it is difficult to tell > exactly what is does say) and a marriage of Charles PLAXTON and Mary TRAIN > (not Ellen!) in 1819. (I think this Charles is the older brother of > George). My FTM 2008 software brings up an Ancestry One World Tree match > for Charles suggesting he died in Ontario, Canada and I haven't been able > to find him on any English census. Ellen is living with George and Ellen > in 1851, in 1841 aged 5 she is living with William and Elizabeth > KIRMAN.....I haven't even begun to look at their connection with this > puzzle yet!! > > So I have 3 questions. > 1. Does anyone have any of these Cottingham PLAXTONS in their tree and can > shed any light on any of this? > 2. Is it likely the PR could be wrong? > 3. Does anyone know where I can find out if and when Charles went to > Canada, and who went with him? > > Hoping someone can help. > > Jan Holmes > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get Hotmail on your mobile. Text MSN to 63463 now! > http://mobile.uk.msn.com/pc/mail.aspx > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jan, I don't know if this is the Charles you are referring to but there is the following record... Schedule C. - Deaths. Registration District of Simcoe, Ontario. No. 30 Name: Charles PLAXTON Date of Death: 14th Feb 1873 Gender: M Age: 77 Rank or Profession: Farmer Where born: Yorkshire, England Certified Cause of Death and duration of Illness: Unknown, 2 weeks Name of Physician: Dr. Hamilton Signature, description and address of informant: John Plaxton, On., When registered: 27th December, 1873 Religious Denomination of Deceased: W. Methodist Signature of Registrar: Geo. Tudhope D.K. Remarks: 009205 (I think) Gill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Holmes" <tigerjan775@hotmail.com> To: <eng-east-yorks@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 12:38 PM Subject: [ENG-EAST-YORKS] PLAXTON Cottingham > Hi All, > > I am trying to unravel a mystery surrounding my husband's GG grandmother > Ellen PLAXTON, I have been to the archives at Beverley today to check, and > have come back more confused than ever! > > Ellen's marriage to James MORLEY in 1855 gives her age on the certificate > as 19 and her father as George PLAXTON, which points to a birth in 1836. > The IGI and the Cottingham microfiche have a baptism for Ellen PLAXTON in > 1836, father Charles (!!) mother Ellen, and one in 1832 with a father > George and mother Ellen. Ellen's census shows her age matching a birth in > 1835/36, and she was buried in Cottingham cemetery in 1900, where the age > on her headstone is 65. > > The IGI has a marriage in 1827 of George PLAXTON and Ellen DOPER (on the > microfiche it definitely isn't DOPER, though it is difficult to tell > exactly what is does say) and a marriage of Charles PLAXTON and Mary TRAIN > (not Ellen!) in 1819. (I think this Charles is the older brother of > George). My FTM 2008 software brings up an Ancestry One World Tree match > for Charles suggesting he died in Ontario, Canada and I haven't been able > to find him on any English census. Ellen is living with George and Ellen > in 1851, in 1841 aged 5 she is living with William and Elizabeth > KIRMAN.....I haven't even begun to look at their connection with this > puzzle yet!! > > So I have 3 questions. > 1. Does anyone have any of these Cottingham PLAXTONS in their tree and can > shed any light on any of this? > 2. Is it likely the PR could be wrong? > 3. Does anyone know where I can find out if and when Charles went to > Canada, and who went with him? > > Hoping someone can help. > > Jan Holmes > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get Hotmail on your mobile. Text MSN to 63463 now! > http://mobile.uk.msn.com/pc/mail.aspx > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Judith I have a few Vinson names on my tree. The closest related one is John William Vinson born Hull 1838 He married Charlotte Ewbank in 1858. Do you have links to John? Victor Judith Kettlewell wrote: > Hello Listers > > I wonder if anyone can help me please with my husband's family history. > > I am looking for William VINSON in the 1841 census and so far I have been unable to find him and his family. > > I have him in 1851 in Hull where he has been most unhelpful by just using initials for the names of his children! > > I have tried to use different spellings for the surname but, alas, to no avail. > > His wife was named Ann and there should be at least three children with them all born Hull. There were two others born after the 1841 census and I have their names, both born Hull. > > If anyone would have a go at trying to find this family I would be more than grateful. > > With many thanks > > Kind regards > > Judith Kettlewell > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Listers I wonder if anyone can help me please with my husband's family history. I am looking for William VINSON in the 1841 census and so far I have been unable to find him and his family. I have him in 1851 in Hull where he has been most unhelpful by just using initials for the names of his children! I have tried to use different spellings for the surname but, alas, to no avail. His wife was named Ann and there should be at least three children with them all born Hull. There were two others born after the 1841 census and I have their names, both born Hull. If anyone would have a go at trying to find this family I would be more than grateful. With many thanks Kind regards Judith Kettlewell

My database is 6,000 - & I only have one "Debra" born 1956 .. Deborah is a religious name .. http://www.amit.org.il/learning/English/JW/Deborah.htm Susan, during the 1940s, was a very popular name - there were six of us in my class at school .. When I started doing Genealogy, I was pleasantly surprised to find that Susan was a very old name - whereas I'd always though it was a fairly modern one ... I have Thirty Susans in my database - but not many from East Yorkshire ... Here, the names were more 'solid' names, like Ann(e), Jane, Elizabeth, Margaret, Martha & Mary, etc .. Sue I was quite surprised to read that this name was 25th in the top 50 girls names in 1700 - I had no idea it was that popular and if asked to guess I would have said at that time it came much lower down the list. As an illustration - if you take my current database of some 16,500 people of which probably about half are female I only have 7 Deborahs and of those 5 were born after the mid 20th century (including me !!). The name itself became very popular in the 1950s and 1960s and there were always loads of Deborahs in my class at school, but like many names it seems to have fallen into disuse again and in the 400 plus primary school where I work today we don't have a single one on roll. As a genealogist I am always delighted to come across a more unusual in the course of my research - it makes such a pleasant change from all those Anns, Sarahs and Marys. ! Bye for now Deb Mirfield WRY

Hi all I was quite surprised to read that this name was 25th in the top 50 girls names in 1700 - I had no idea it was that popular and if asked to guess I would have said at that time it came much lower down the list. As an illustration - if you take my current database of some 16,500 people of which probably about half are female I only have 7 Deborahs and of those 5 were born after the mid 20th century (including me !!). The name itself became very popular in the 1950s and 1960s and there were always loads of Deborahs in my class at school, but like many names it seems to have fallen into disuse again and in the 400 plus primary school where I work today we don't have a single one on roll. As a genealogist I am always delighted to come across a more unusual in the course of my research - it makes such a pleasant change from all those Anns, Sarahs and Marys. ! Bye for now Deb Mirfield WRY No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.5/1359 - Release Date: 04/04/2008 08:23