> >> Hi Ed, Thanks for the prompt reply, this is the answer I wanted, appreciated, kind regards, Maurice H.. >> >> >> >> >>

Hi All, Onthe above Census for Yorkshire, there is a Sarah WILKINSON, aged 66 years, birthplace Wakefield, Yorkshire. I cannot decipher the relationship, and wondered if anyone who has a clearer transcription could have a look at this and let me know what they think the relationshilp is. The reference is HO107/2362/F289. Thanks in anticipation for any help, kind regards, Maurice HAMSON....

Neil, looking for relatives in London I came across the following which may or may not be of use:- 1891 Census. Hanover Square, Knightsbridge. RG12/0071, Folio 102, Page 27. 59 Eaton Place. Household of Annie Thorpe Ellen Oxtoby, servant, single, 20, ladies maid, born Saneton, Yorks Saneton is probably transcribed incorrectly and could be Sancton, Yorks. Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Turner" <neil.turner@virgin.net> To: <eng-east-yorks@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 8:44 AM Subject: [ENG-EAST-YORKS] Oxtoby > Thanks for all your help folks, I'm now able to see the light. (and the > census!) > > Neil. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.10/1585 - Release Date: > 01/08/2008 06:39 > > >

Hi Folks Regarding the recent thread about the wills/admons indexes at Borthwick...... I've actually never been to the Borthwick. However, I do have the postal address of a lady who goes there fairly regularly and who will for a very reasonable charge make you lists of entries from the indexes and also provide synopses (ie summaries) of any wills you want. I have used her loads in the past and it was always invaluable. For example, she has created me lists of all entries for a certain surname within a given period and also lists of all entries from the same village in a given period. I then chose which wills I want and get the synopses from her, or using the references she gives you can apply direct to Borthwick for a full copy if you prefer. She doesn't do email or computers (everything is handwritten), but if anyone wants her postal address please contact me off-list. Bye Deb in a damp Mirfield W Yorks

Thanks for all your help folks, I'm now able to see the light. (and the census!) Neil.

Thank you, Chris. Where might the Administration Act Books be for residents of the Hull/Beverley area in the Georgian era? Do you have any experience of searching through these, presuming that they are unindexed? For any 10 year period, say 1730-40 or 1810-20, would there be tens, hundreds, thousands or more names? In other words, what is the degree of difficulty or how much should you know before looking? Thanks and regards Bill Sydney ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris W" <cjw283@yahoo.com> To: <eng-east-yorks@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 3:05 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-EAST-YORKS] Intestacy - grants of administration | Bill, | | The National Probate Register lists grants of administration after 1858. | | For the intestate, grants of letters of administration by church courts prior to this are recorded in the relevant Administration Act Books for the diocese concerned if they survive. Practice varied from place to place I think. Indexes to wills for some counties (e.g. that part of Lancashire in the diocese of Chester) also include an index to grants of administration, but this may not be the case elswhere. | | The majority of those dying intestate will have no grant of administration. | | Chris Watson | | --- On Wed, 7/30/08, Bill Webster <wbwebster@optusnet.com.au> wrote: | | > From: Bill Webster <wbwebster@optusnet.com.au> | > Subject: [ENG-EAST-YORKS] Intestacy - grants of administration | > To: eng-east-yorks@rootsweb.com | > Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 6:40 AM | > Could I be given some advice from experience of searching | > for ancestors, | > with any estate to leave, who died intestate, both prior to | > and after 1858? | > | > I assume this may have been the case in a majority of | > estates. | > | > Were grants of administration recorded separately from | > wills? | > | > | > Bill. | > | > | > | > ------------------------------- | > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to | > ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word | > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and | > the body of the message | | | | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message |

There is no relationship given , her marital status is W for widow. Ed. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maurice HAMSON" <mapacaja@ts.co.nz> To: <eng-east-yorks@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 12:11 AM Subject: [ENG-EAST-YORKS] 1851 Census for Yorkshire - help please > Hi All, > Onthe above Census for Yorkshire, there is a Sarah WILKINSON, > aged 66 years, birthplace Wakefield, Yorkshire. I cannot decipher the > relationship, and wondered if anyone who has a clearer transcription > could have a look at this and let me know what they think the > relationshilp is. The reference is HO107/2362/F289. Thanks in > anticipation for any help, kind regards, Maurice HAMSON.... > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have looked at the entry in both Ancestry and TheGenealogist, and I would say that "relation to head of family" has been left blank. There is simply a black vertical stroke. I magnified the image to 125%, and it is quite clear. Sorry. I don't think that's what you wanted to hear. Arlene Arlene V. Jennings, CG Brooklyn, New York CG, Certified Genealogist is a service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license by board certified genealogists after periodic evaluation, and the board name is registered in the US Patent & Trademark Office.  Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. -----Original Message----- From: eng-east-yorks-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-east-yorks-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Maurice HAMSON Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 7:12 PM To: eng-east-yorks@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-EAST-YORKS] 1851 Census for Yorkshire - help please Hi All, Onthe above Census for Yorkshire, there is a Sarah WILKINSON, aged 66 years, birthplace Wakefield, Yorkshire. I cannot decipher the relationship, and wondered if anyone who has a clearer transcription could have a look at this and let me know what they think the relationshilp is. The reference is HO107/2362/F289. Thanks in anticipation for any help, kind regards, Maurice HAMSON.... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'll answer with a question. Is it likely that surviving records for East Yorkshire are at the Borthwick Institute? Arlene Arlene V. Jennings, CG Brooklyn, New York CG, Certified Genealogist is a service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license by board certified genealogists after periodic evaluation, and the board name is registered in the US Patent & Trademark Office.  Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. -----Original Message----- From: eng-east-yorks-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-east-yorks-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bill Webster Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 5:20 PM To: eng-east-yorks@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-EAST-YORKS] Intestacy - grants of administration Thank you, Chris. Where might the Administration Act Books be for residents of the Hull/Beverley area in the Georgian era? Do you have any experience of searching through these, presuming that they are unindexed? For any 10 year period, say 1730-40 or 1810-20, would there be tens, hundreds, thousands or more names? In other words, what is the degree of difficulty or how much should you know before looking? Thanks and regards Bill Sydney ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris W" <cjw283@yahoo.com> To: <eng-east-yorks@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 3:05 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-EAST-YORKS] Intestacy - grants of administration | Bill, | | The National Probate Register lists grants of administration after 1858. | | For the intestate, grants of letters of administration by church courts prior to this are recorded in the relevant Administration Act Books for the diocese concerned if they survive. Practice varied from place to place I think. Indexes to wills for some counties (e.g. that part of Lancashire in the diocese of Chester) also include an index to grants of administration, but this may not be the case elswhere. | | The majority of those dying intestate will have no grant of administration. | | Chris Watson | | --- On Wed, 7/30/08, Bill Webster <wbwebster@optusnet.com.au> wrote: | | > From: Bill Webster <wbwebster@optusnet.com.au> | > Subject: [ENG-EAST-YORKS] Intestacy - grants of administration | > To: eng-east-yorks@rootsweb.com | > Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 6:40 AM | > Could I be given some advice from experience of searching | > for ancestors, | > with any estate to leave, who died intestate, both prior to | > and after 1858? | > | > I assume this may have been the case in a majority of | > estates. | > | > Were grants of administration recorded separately from | > wills? | > | > | > Bill. | > | > | > | > ------------------------------- | > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to | > ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word | > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and | > the body of the message | | | | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message | ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello List, I am looking for 2 families who are on the 1841 and 1851 census for East Riding around the Bridlington area. 1st family. 1841 Census; CHARLES BURNETT, laborer and son JOHN BURNETT, John was born around 1838 not sure about the rest of the family. 1851 Census; Same family please 2nd family is for: 1841 Census; WILLIAM THOLLAR (this is the correct spelling of the name but may be different on the census) he had 2 daughters SARAH THOLLAR born around 1839 and MARY ELIZABETH THOLLAR born around 1840. 1851 Census; Same family please. Thank you Kindest Regards Lori

No connections but spotted for sale on EBay "Victorian In Memoriam Card for Mary Elizabeth Edwards who died April 12th,1887 aged 24 years. No details of burial but death registered on Ancestry.co.uk shows registered in Sculcoates. Dust stained and worn at corners but otherwise in good condition. " http://cgi.ebay.co.uk:80/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120289528062&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123 Maria

Hi Neil, I've found them on Ancestry transcribed as Oxwby. Let me know if you want the image. Living in Low street, Richard, Emma, John W., Jane, John T, Mary A and Alfred. Best wishes, Gillian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Turner" <neil.turner@virgin.net> To: <eng-east-yorks@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 10:07 AM Subject: [ENG-EAST-YORKS] 1891 sancton > Hi list, > I've been trying to trace the Oxtoby family through the censuses in > Sancton. Richard was a blacksmith on the High Street moving to Low? Street > in 1901. I can't find them (or any Oxtoby's in Sancton on the 1891 census > on Genes. Is Sancton there or is it missing? does someone know what I'm > doing wrong? > > Thanks, > > Neil. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Neil, Is this yours? 1891 Census. RG12/3901, Folio 21, Page 10. 59, Market Place, Market Weighton. Richard Thomas Oxtoby, apprentice, single, 18, grocers apprentice, born Sancton. Living in Household of Thomas Green Lyon, Grocer. regards, Richard. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Turner" <neil.turner@virgin.net> To: <eng-east-yorks@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 10:07 AM Subject: [ENG-EAST-YORKS] 1891 sancton > Hi list, > I've been trying to trace the Oxtoby family through the censuses in > Sancton. Richard was a blacksmith on the High Street moving to Low? Street > in 1901. I can't find them (or any Oxtoby's in Sancton on the 1891 census > on Genes. Is Sancton there or is it missing? does someone know what I'm > doing wrong? > > Thanks, > > Neil. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.10/1585 - Release Date: > 01/08/2008 06:39 > > >

Hello Neil I have just found the family in 1881, living in Sancton. You'll find them on www.familysearch.org.uk [RG11/4734]. Have you tried looking through all the pages for Sanctonin 1891 - there are only 14 pages - as it may have been transcribed wrongly. The first name on the first page is Robert Pears aged 50 born in Seaton Ross. If you search for him, then go through the pages, hopefully you'll find them. I haven't time to look for you, sorry!! Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Turner" <neil.turner@virgin.net> To: <eng-east-yorks@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 10:07 AM Subject: [ENG-EAST-YORKS] 1891 sancton > Hi list, > I've been trying to trace the Oxtoby family through the censuses in > Sancton. Richard was a blacksmith on the High Street moving to Low? Street > in 1901. I can't find them (or any Oxtoby's in Sancton on the 1891 census > on Genes. Is Sancton there or is it missing? does someone know what I'm > doing wrong? > > Thanks, > > Neil. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1437 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

Hello Neil Bulmers Directory of East Yorkshire 1892 lists the following item..... Oxtoby Richard, blacksmith, White house. No other details I'm afraid Regards Barry Neil Turner wrote: > Hi list, > I've been trying to trace the Oxtoby family through the censuses in Sancton. Richard was a blacksmith on the High Street moving to Low? Street in 1901. I can't find them (or any Oxtoby's in Sancton on the 1891 census on Genes. Is Sancton there or is it missing? does someone know what I'm doing wrong? > > Thanks, > > Neil. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hallo Neil I live in Market Weighton and know a family called Oxtoby. They live in North Newbald, a couple of villages from Market Weighton. The Oxtoby family is quite a large family around this area, there are quite a few families. Hope this is some help Regards Lynda > From: neil.turner@virgin.net> To: eng-east-yorks@rootsweb.com> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:07:25 +0100> Subject: [ENG-EAST-YORKS] 1891 sancton> > Hi list, > I've been trying to trace the Oxtoby family through the censuses in Sancton. Richard was a blacksmith on the High Street moving to Low? Street in 1901. I can't find them (or any Oxtoby's in Sancton on the 1891 census on Genes. Is Sancton there or is it missing? does someone know what I'm doing wrong?> > Thanks,> > Neil.> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Make a mini you on Windows Live Messenger! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/107571437/direct/01/

Hi list, I've been trying to trace the Oxtoby family through the censuses in Sancton. Richard was a blacksmith on the High Street moving to Low? Street in 1901. I can't find them (or any Oxtoby's in Sancton on the 1891 census on Genes. Is Sancton there or is it missing? does someone know what I'm doing wrong? Thanks, Neil.

Bill, The National Probate Register lists grants of administration after 1858. For the intestate, grants of letters of administration by church courts prior to this are recorded in the relevant Administration Act Books for the diocese concerned if they survive. Practice varied from place to place I think. Indexes to wills for some counties (e.g. that part of Lancashire in the diocese of Chester) also include an index to grants of administration, but this may not be the case elswhere. The majority of those dying intestate will have no grant of administration. Chris Watson --- On Wed, 7/30/08, Bill Webster <wbwebster@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > From: Bill Webster <wbwebster@optusnet.com.au> > Subject: [ENG-EAST-YORKS] Intestacy - grants of administration > To: eng-east-yorks@rootsweb.com > Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 6:40 AM > Could I be given some advice from experience of searching > for ancestors, > with any estate to leave, who died intestate, both prior to > and after 1858? > > I assume this may have been the case in a majority of > estates. > > Were grants of administration recorded separately from > wills? > > > Bill. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Hi Neil 1891 census you will find Richard living on Low Street, Sancton with his wife Emma and their children John William, Jane, John Thomas, Mary and Alfred. I checked the 1881 census and the family were living at High Street, Sancton. Hope this helps. Regards mike blake ----- Original Message ---- From: Neil Turner <neil.turner@virgin.net> To: eng-east-yorks@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, 1 August, 2008 10:07:25 AM Subject: [ENG-EAST-YORKS] 1891 sancton Hi list, I've been trying to trace the Oxtoby family through the censuses in Sancton. Richard was a blacksmith on the High Street moving to Low? Street in 1901. I can't find them (or any Oxtoby's in Sancton on the 1891 census on Genes. Is Sancton there or is it missing? does someone know what I'm doing wrong? Thanks, Neil. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-EAST-YORKS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Could I be given some advice from experience of searching for ancestors, with any estate to leave, who died intestate, both prior to and after 1858? I assume this may have been the case in a majority of estates. Were grants of administration recorded separately from wills? Bill.