Dear all, Does anyone know if it is possible to go straight to the details of a whole household, without having to go to an individual first. If you know you've got the right person from the index there seems no point in having to pay for the information about them separately from the family, as you get it with the family anyway. Many thanks Martin Cross Brighton

Hi Karen Thank you for the info you have sent on your JOHNSON line. I'm not sure at this stage if there is any connection with mine. The first thing I have to do is find the marriage of my Robert JOHNSON to a Mary? I have been told by a member of the LINCS list that a Robert JOHNSON married Mary BLACKSTON at Saint John and Saint Martin, Beverley, Yorkshire on 8 Feb 1779. But another lister has now sent the below: Hughwallis site,--- for St.Mary & St.Nicholas Beverley--found the following 1788-25-Sept.--Mary Blackston-married-Richard Sission 1768--12-March.--Robert Johnson-married--Dorothy Dawson. So I am now totally confused. All I know for sure is that they were in Barton Upon Humber LINCS by Nov 1786. Their son Stephen gave his birthplace as Hull on the 1851 census, born c1784. Maybe that is where I should be looking for their marriage. I will get back to you if I find a connection in the future. Kind Regards Sue Sharman Picton, NZ > Karen Leigh Doolan wrote: > > Okay, one son of Stephen & Elizabeth Blythe, Anthony married an > Elizabeth and they had three children, all born in Beverley, Robert > Anthony, Emma Frances and Annette Sarah. All born between 1816 and > 1824. > > My Stephen Johnson must have come from Yorkshire, he was married in > Skirlaugh and was a cow keeper. I find it hard to believe he moved > counties to marry and live - also there are several Stephen Johnson's > born earlier than him in the East Riding area. He just must have been > missed on the IGI's. Perhaps the parish records for Beverley may give > more info. > > He was born in 1747 if you come up with any info. > > Regards, > Karen > >

I'm back on the list and still researching Thomas Tharratt who married Elizabeth Flinton in 1833 at St. Mary's, Sculcoates. I would like to find his birthdate and information about his parents, siblings. Jeane Tharratt

Firstly I have a copy of the census disc for yorkshire 1881, and would be willing to look up anything (not too complicated though!) please mail me us much infor as poss. Now down to business looking for information on :- Terence Jospeh Patrick Kaveney and wife Lilian Holder traced an address to 4 Littles Terrace Gillett Street Hull in around 1905. Have details of 2 children George Leonard Kaveney and James William Kaveney probably more children but none discovered yet! Essentially want dates of birth or marriage for Terence and Lilian or if ne one has 1891 census may be able to trace, would probably have lived in near surrounding area. Terence may have been born in Malta in 1959 which means he was nearly 50 when he had James in 1910 so Lilian would probably have been younger although this may just be the wrong road! Would like to hear anything anyone has! Thanks Jane

On Saturday last, very suddenly, age 25, Mr. Thomas BOWLBY, clerk to Mr. SANDWICH of this place, attorney. Yesterday se'nnight, at his father's in Queen's-square, Bloombury, Robert Macfarlane HAMMOND, in his 20th year, the third son of William Hammond, Esq, formerly of this town. On Monday, in the 84th year of his age, John ROMANS, Esq, of York, formerly an attorney at law. On Friday last, at Bulford Cottage, near York, aged 68, Mr. THEAKSTON. On Saturday last, at Worlsby, Lincolnshire, Mr. Francis MEYNELL, of that place. On Wednesday se'nnight, at Bawtry, age 25, Mr. Thomas SMITH, one of the Proprietors of Sunk Island. On the 2d inst. at Ga nborugh <sic>, aged 86, Mrs. PARKER, wife of Mr. Parker, gent. formerly of the George and Dragon inn, Bolton. On the 3d inst. John MORLEY, Esq. of Holme Hall, near Brigg, aged 63. On the 3d instant, at Scarbro', aged 70, Mrs. MENNELL, window of the late Lieut. George Menell, of the Royal Navy. At Bridlington, at an advanced age, Mrs. TEVERS. Last week, at Great-Driffield, Mrs. COATES, wife of Mr. George Coates, of that place, farmer. A few days ago, at Great-Driffeld, Mrs. Hall, wife of Mr. Hall of that place, cabinet maker.

Hello everyone... Thanks to all who replied to be regarding the web site for old hand writing. I have currently been having a problem with my machine so I though that I would just do a big thank you to all the lists. My document will be on-line soon so maybe SKS will be able to decipher it for me. Thanks again, Beverley, BC, Canada

Carolyn - in case you haven't had replies on this one: se'night = 7 night, or week fort'night = 14 night, still called fortnight (why not also twentyonenight, etc? No idea.) Migs NZ -- Quote: There is no problem which cannot be made worse, especially if people claim there's no problem. - Modern / Trad.

----- Original Message ----- > Can anyone please help me find the SYMONS family in HULL. So far I > only have one marriage certificate for ROBERT SYMONS 1924. I am looking for > his father, WILLIAM SYMONS born about 1873, not sure where. He lived in Hull > with his wife (don't know her name either) around 1900, had a son WILLIAM > born about 1898, & ROBERT born 1900. They were OIL MILLERS by trade. > I really would appreciate any information. thanks > Janet (Florida) > Hi, Janet My 1851 Directory shows one reference to Symons. (A lot earlier than you are currently looking for, I know, but it may prove useful as your searches progress). It is: Julia Symons, dealer in second-hand plate, 72 Queen Street, Hull. Regards Mary Varley >

Hi Rita, Firstly, a Seed Warehouse would have all types of seed including agricultural. It is quite likely that you will not find Ballamy Square on any maps.Mill street was one of the worst slum areas in HULL. In such areas unscrupulous builders erected housing in every available space and I guess it would have been very difficult to keep up with for mapping purposes. Mill Street was also an Irish enclave. I don't know if you ancestors had any connections there. The Local Historian , JOHN MARKHAM, writes that a hierarchy of tenants and sub tenants existed. Even beds could have a 24 hour occupancy by being rented out for portions of a day. Ballamy Square would probably have been demolished at the beginning of the 20th. century when huge areas of slums were cleared from the town centre, many of them to make way for the new Ferensway. Hope that you will find this interesting. Jean-HULL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rita E Beaumier" <ritab428@attbi.com> To: <ENG-YKS-HULL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 1:12 AM Subject: Bellamy Square > > Hi List, > Just received birth certificate on my grandmother born in Hull at 8 Bellamy Square, Mill Street. Is Bellamy Square a section of Mill Street? My gr grandfather was listed as a Seed Warehouse Man, is that for gardening? Any help would be appreciated because I would like to know if the house is still present. > Thanks in advance, > Rita Beaumier > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi all, Can anyone please help me find the SYMONS family in HULL. So far I only have one marriage certificate for ROBERT SYMONS 1924. I am looking for his father, WILLIAM SYMONS born about 1873, not sure where. He lived in Hull with his wife (don't know her name either) around 1900, had a son WILLIAM born about 1898, & ROBERT born 1900. They were OIL MILLERS by trade. I really would appreciate any information. thanks Janet (Florida)

Hi Everyone, What a super lot you all are. Had some wonderful Reponses and many many photographs sent to me regarding Staniforth Place in Hull at the turn of the century. I think I have thanked all in person - if not please accept this as a big thank you to the lists. "A photographic Ramble Through Time" is coming along nicely. regards Shona www.cave-kids.com

Hello all, I've been a subscriber to this list for quite some time, but haven't posted anything since shortly after I joined, so here's a repost of my Yorkshire Wood/ Woodsworth family. My g-g-grandfather Richard Wood was born in 1803 in Sledmere, ERY, third son of Richard Wood, (~1769 - 1830) and Maria Bolton (~1781 - 1807). I¹m not sure where either of them were born -- possibly the East Riding, but possibly the North Riding or elsewhere. Richard sr. and Maria were married 24 Nov 1796 and had five children. She died in Aug 1807 and Richard married Elizabeth Bradley 29 Nov 1814 and had four more children by her. He died in 1830, and Elizabeth remarried in Feb 1833, to Robert Richardson. All these events occurred in Sledmere. Richard jr. left England in 1830 and moved to Canada, possibly via New York. He settled in Toronto, changed his name to Woodsworth, and became quite well known as an architect, builder, and lay Methodist minister. To the best of my knowledge, the rest of the family stayed in England, most of them in the East Riding. One of the great mysteries of this family is the use of the name Wood by some of them and Woodsworth by others since the 1830s. I have found absolutely zero evidence that Woodsworth was used by earlier generations. Children of Richard Wood and Maria Bolton: John ‹ b Feb 1797, Sledmere; no further information, although I found a marriage for a John Wood (b. ~ 1819, Wetwang, d. 1896, Sledmere) to Ana Robinson ( b. 1819 Brigham, d. 1899, Sledmere), who may be his son. Unfortunately, so far I haven¹t found any proof of a connection. Ann ‹ b. Mar 1799; no further record of her. William ‹ b. Mar 1801, Sledmere, d. Mar 1810, Sledmere. Richard ‹ my g-g-grandfather, b. Mar 1803 Sledmere, d. 23 Jan 1871, Toronto, ON. Maria ‹ b. Jul 1805, Sledmere, d. Jan 1842, Garton on the Wolds. She married John Hutchinson, son of William and Mary (Train) Hutchinson of Wetwang. They lived in Garton and Skidby, and had three children; William, Richard, and Christopher. John died in Jul 1843, also in Garton. Children of Richard Wood and Elizabeth Bradley: Thomas ‹ b. Nov 1818, Sledmere, d. Dec 1862, Sledmere. His first wife was Martha Watson (b. Oct 1819), whom he married 21 Aug 1841; I have not found a death record for her, but he remarried, to Martha Leng (b. 1819), on 14 May 1842. She died Aug 1855, and Thomas married Jane Wharram (b. ~ 1820) 23 Apr 1860. He had six children by Martha Leng; Richard (Aug 1842 - ?), Mary (Jul 1844 ­ Apr 1845) and her twin Elizabeth (Jul 1844 - ?), Maria (Oct 1847 - ?), James (Dec 1849 - ?), and Martha (Jun 1852 - ?). Elizabeth married Thomas Marshall (b. ~ 1838) of Hutton Ambo, 30 Dec 1865 in Sledmere. I have not found marriages or death records for any of the other children. Note: All of them were named Woodsworth in the Parish Register, and Thomas used Woodsworth as his name when he married Jane Wharram. He died after being gored by a cow, according to a report in the Driffield Times and General Advertiser of 03 Jan 1863. Thomas' oldest son, Richard, lived in Rosedale, NRY, from the 1870s through 1890s, where he worked as a boot maker, and his younger son, James, appears to have been in Rosedale in the early 1870s. Both of them used Woodsworth. Betsy ‹ b. Jul 1820, Sledmere; no other records found. William ‹ b. Feb 1822, Sledmere, d. 3 Oct 1895, Sledmere. He married Mary Awmack (b.1822, Westow ­ d. 11 Dec 1884, Sledmere) 1 Sep 1849 in Leake, and they had seven children; Tamar (Apr 1850 ­ Feb 1853), Benjamin (Mar 1852 - ?), Sarah (Nov 1853 ­ Jul 1854), Jane (Jun 1855 - ?), Mary (Apr 1858 - ?), Deborah (Aug 1860 ­ May 1861), and William (Jun 1864 - ?). Jane married Thomas Clark, of Sledmere, 21 Dec 1872 in Sledmere. Mary may have married a William Whitfield in late 1879. William is listed as ŒWood¹ on the baptismal records for the first four children, but by 1858 he was using ŒWoodsworth.¹ His burial record lists him as ŒWood.¹ Jane ‹ b 9 Dec 1825, Sledmere, d. Jun 1832, Sledmere. I would be glad to share further information on this family with anyone who's related to these Woods. John Hughes, Edmonton, AB, Canada

Transcibers notes and questions: Is the word se'nnight or fe'nnight? I can only tell s from f when I know the word! What does it mean? My doubts about anything will be put between <>. Please let me know if you find any connections to the folks listed here, I'd like to share your joy! I am slowly unfolding this paper and will deal with each area as I do. Be patient with me! The paper is quite dark and I am not sure it will scan with enough contrast to read. One of you said you'd post to freebmd list and I wonder if this info shouldn't also be passed to the appropriate genealogical society? If one of you belong, will you kindly do that? Thanks, carolyn MARRIAGES: Yesterday fe'nnight, at the Holy Trinity Church, Mr. William DARLING, cabinet-maker to Mrs. Elizabeth IRWIN, of this place. On Sunday last, at the Holy Trinity Church, Mr. Richard ALSTREAM, master mariner, to Miss Ann LAMB, both of this place. Monday last, at Beverley, Mr. WILKINSON, of that place, attorney at law, (brother to John WILKINSON, Esq. of the Theatres Royal York and Hull,) to Miss HORNBY, of Beverley. On Tuesday fe'nnight, at Trinity church, Michael-gate, York, Mr. RHODES, surgeon to Ursula, the fourth daughter of the late Henry BODDY, of Sawley, in the county of York. On Monday last, at Beverley, by the Rev. Robert RIGBY, vicar of St.Mary's, Mr. John HARDEN, Lieutenant in the 54th <94th?> regiment of foot, 2nd bat. to Miss Margaret Middleron LUNDLE, eldest daughter of Mr. T.J. LUNDLE, of that place, merchant. On the 8th instant, Mr. T. BLANCHARD of Yokefleet, to Miss RIPLEY, of Bowthorp, near Howden. On the same day, at Coxhow, Durham, Lieut. William HAWKINS, of the East York militia, to Ann, daughter of Mr. Andrew LEE, late of West Salton. Saturday fe'nnight, at Bishopwearmouth, Mr. William DUNN, master of the brig Mary, of Sunderland, to Miss Sarah THOMPSON, of the Commercial Tavern, of the same place. Yesterday fe'nnight, Cooper PRESTON, Esp. son of the Rev. Mr. PRESTON, of Flasby, in Craven, to Miss TAYLOR, of Swinton Park, near Masham, only daughter of the late Colonel TAYLOR, of the third Dragoon Guards.

Carolyn Newcomb wrote | I have a very fragile copy of The Hull Advertiser and Exchange Gazette, | dated Saturday, January 26, 1811. There is some genealogical info listed | here as to births/marriages, etc. If anyone is interested, I will photocopy | (possibly) then input the info. Not sure I want to keep folding and | refolding it. | What do you all think? Any interest? Or would you rather me photocopy or | scan it and send on to one of you who are more familiar with the | names/places/old spellings than I, and less apt to make errors? === Carolyn, It sounds like a great resource. I'm no expert but would be willing to try to transcribe not only the births, marriages, etc. but also all the surnames mentioned if you could scan the pages. Regards, Ann Watson

Hi everyone Can anyone help me I have found a birth for a GEORGE WILLIAM HUTCHINSON in the March quarter 1871 in Howden and a GEORGE HUTCHINSON for the June Quarter 1871, can anyone find out for me if either the parents names are JOHN HUTCHINSON and ANN HUTCHINSON nee DRURY. I don't want to get both to find only one is the right one. Thanks in anticipation Alan (dull Scarborough)

Hi everyone, Just returned to the lists after an absence of three months. Picking up the threads of serious research again. Q - Could any one direct me to the location of STANIFORTH PLACE which I believe was situated somewhere off Hessle Road about the turn of the century(1899/00). regards Shona http://www.cave-kids.com RESEARCHING /YORKS/NORFOLK/SUFFOLK/LINCS/IRL/WALES/INDIA/NZ/USA Beckett Billany Bosman Booth Bradley Boulder Bowles Brooks Butcher Carter Cotton Cressey Critten Dry Dunning Edgar Etherington Fuller Gravaline Gell Howard Keeping Lunn Organ Osborne Pickering Riches Shapland Simpson Smith Thompson Verity Wells Wilson Wing Wright

<snip> Hello Carolyn It would suit most of us Carolyn if you could see your way to photocopying the paper and then posting the genealogical data on this list. That is what I would like to see, anyway <snip> I agree - Well it would fine great for me too. Yours from an ex Hull Lass Hazel B in Yorkshire, England Always looking for Escritt - ERY Lamming - Lincs I use Archive CD Books in my research. www.archivecdbooks.org Great resource - have a look!

Hello all... I was wondering if SKS could please tell me what the web site is for deciphering older hand writing. I was in the middle of looking at it when my machine froze up on me. I had to shut down and so I lost it. Thanks, Beverley Preston, BC, Canada

Hello Carolyn It would suit most of us Carolyn if you could see your way to photocopying the paper and then posting the genealogical data on this list. That is what I would like to see, anyway Richard Dawson Ex E-Yorks Now Dorset

Dear Listers Is there anyone who could look at the Parish register for Beverley in exchange for me doing lookups for them on the 1891 census. I have access to all of England but would need an address if a large city such as London. I have been told by a kind member of the LINCS list that a Robert JOHNSON married Mary BLACKSTON at Saint John and Saint Martin, Beverley, Yorkshire on 8 Feb 1779. I think they may be the parents of my Frances JOHNSON who married Robert ROEBUCK at Sculcoates in 1814 and I'm trying to prove it. I would like to know if there is a Stephen JOHNSON bp with the above parents c1784 or perhaps another child bp 1779-1783 that I do no know about. If anyone is interested in this reciprocal research, I would love to hear from them. Regards Sue Sharman Picton, NZ