Trying to get in touch with Jean - address was john@random2000.karoo.co.uk Messages are bouncing, so if anyone has the current address, I would appreciate hearing from you. Thanks Sue G

Hi All, Have just finished reading the above book written by Liza Picard. I found it a great read and it gave a great insight into London life in the 18th Century. From the poor to rich, health, food, medicine etc etc. Has anyone read this book? I am wondering whether Yorkshire life was entirely different to London between 1700 and 1800. Would they have had the same type of work, medical, schooling etc. I am trying to get as much background info on my family from Yorkshire as I can. Regards, Karen Qld Australia

Hi Karen and all, 'The Rural Economy of Yorkshire' by Mr Marshall, 1788, gives a very good insight into life in Yorkshire - most of which was, and still is, rural. Giving details of all aspects of farming, husbandry, marketing, wages and prices, tenancy laws, etc., and includes a glossary of dialect speech. This book, in two volumes, is now available on a CD, from www.yorkshireancestors.com Regards, Janice Wood www.yorksgen.com www.btinternet.com/~jansfamily/ www.yorkshireancestors.com in North Yorkshire Researching: BANKS, BEALL, BULMER, CALVERT, COCKERILL, FISHER, FOX, FOXTON, GARBUT, HARRISON, HAWKINS, HOLYDAY, HURD, KIRK, LOWTHER, MATTISON, NAWTON, PATTISON, PICKARD, PICKERING, POTTER, SCAIFE, SHOUT, SIMPSON, SKILBECK, STONEHOUSE, THOMPSON, TRENHOLM(E), WARRINER, WEATHERILL, WEDGEWOOD, WILSON, and WOOD. go interactive at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Yorksgen/ 1901 PRO census vouchers are available from Brenda Green at www.yorkshireancestors.com; email to brenda@yorkshireancestors.com

Dear List, I know that this has nothing to do with Yorkshire let alone genealogy. But when I was researching my family in Yorkshire you list members were so helpful to me that I thought I would pose a question to you even thought it is a non-related subject. I am living in the United States, Florida, and am a glass candy container collector. We collect containers that were made in the early 1900s that were in shapes of animals, comic strip characters, santas, trains, planes, cars, etc. and they were filled with small hard pellet candies, with a closure of cardboard pushed in or a screw on lid. They range from about 3" to 6" in size. Well we have gotten a few in our collection over the years that are supposed to be English in manufacture. I have a train, a car, a dog, a benguin, a soldier and a kewpie doll and specifically a cat with a label that reads: S.P. Confectionery, high grade candies and a big S.P. in the center of this red and black label. Would any of you know of any such confectioner in England or be able to tell me how to find out about this company? I would certainly appreciate any help you could lend to me. Betty MacDuff The Villages, FL

Merry Christmas to everyone on the list from your ancestral homeland here in East Yorkshire. Peter B

Hello, I have recently discovered, through a message forwarded to the Essex-UK list from the Yorksgen list, that James John LAMB, (who was in all likelihood related to me) met his death in a storm on 28 October 1880, which caused two ships to collide with the pier at Withernsea. The more spectacular of the two was the "Saffron", which "punched an 80 yard gap" in the pier. The other, in which James John LAMB was killed, was the "Jabez". This was a fishing-smack which struck the end of the pier and sank with all four hands, all of whom came from Colchester, Essex. 3 of them were buried at Withernsea, but James John LAMB was buried at Holmpton, where his body was discovered. I am wondering if (when things get back to normal after Christmas) someone living in that area might be able to do a look-up in the archives of the local newspaper(s) to see if there was a report of the loss of the "Jabez" - I would of course repay the cost of postage and photocopying the article. If you are able to help, please contact me off-list, and I will let you have my postal address. Also, if anyone has access to the parish registers for Holmpton, or to the churchyard there, could they possibly check for the death/burial of James John LAMB? Thank you very much. Happy Christmas to all! Regards, David Lamb (Paignton, Devon, UK) Interests (Essex): BAXTER, BERRY, EREY, GOLDSTONE, LAMB, MOTT, PARTRIDGE, SARGENT, TICHBORNE, WEBB, WILLSHER (Suffolk): BRYNGLOVE, CRISPE, FINCH, PARTRIDGE, PORTER, PRATT

Thank you to, Je from Oz, Kerry, Trish, Kevin PD, Ian Hartas,Tony and Anne for the information re BMD's and a Very Merry Christmas to you all. Noel

Rod, If you go to the Manorial Documents Register website you can search for the location of the relevant manorial records if they exist: http://www.hmc.gov.uk/mdr/mdr.htm You can search by manor and/or by parish. Since manorial records are often to be found amongst family and estate papers they could be deposited anywhere, no necessarily in a record office in the 'correct' county. They could also be at the PRO or privately owned, in which case there is no automatic right of access. Regards Chris Watson WATSON Brantingham, North Cave, Ellerker, Londesbrough, Swanland, North Ferriby. HYDE Brantingham, Ellerker, Hull, Millington, Garton on the Wolds. ADAMSON, Bugthorpe, Nunburnholme, Holme on Spalding Moor, South Cave. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1123&item=2900161407&rd=1 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1123&item=2901367136&rd=1

Would skp tell me how to find HULL BMD on the Internet? NOEL WRIGHT Canada

Merry Christmas All, Wondering if anyone knows if a hospital or asylum or the like was in High Street in the 1840's. I know that some parts of High Street had wharehouses for the docks. Regards, Karen Qld Australia

ERY Listers, My current research revolves around the village of Eastrington. Has anyone undertaken any research on The Manors of Eastrington and Portington, including Portington Hall and who may be in a position to advise me where I might find manorial records relating to these places? Are all the records held in Beverley or perhaps Wakefield? The following is an extract from an article giving some of the history "PORTINGTON HALL was built by Henry Portington of Portington in 1582. It replaced, either then or subsequently , the old 13th century moated house, which stood. to the S.W. about 300 yards distant, and which had become damp and unhealthy, and the fact that The manor court house and a small private chapel were built appurtenant to the near house indicates that the change was intended to operate a once. Yet it seems that the old house was not given up altogether for some years. But Henry Portington had married, Matilda Tyrwhit, and she brought to the family a property at Sawcliffe, some miles from Goole across the River Ouse, which became the family's principal home for three generations, the eldest son continuing to reside in each case at Portington. On the death of Michael Portington in 1696, Portington the family severed their connection with the old home, which passed to their cousins, the Wartons of Beverley, probably by purchase. Some time before 1573 Henry Portington's eldest granddaughter, Joan, had married Michael Warton of Beverley, taking with her certain lands and the Manor of Eastrington, which till then had been. held conjointly with Portington, and in which ecclesiastical parish Portington lies". Some years ago, I had a brief correspondence with Susan Butler who I understood was writing a book on the area, can anyone tell me if this was published? Any assistance gratefully received. Rod Clayburn

Hi Listers, I am trying to find out anything on Frances CLARKE nee SKELTON. Frances' parents were William and Frances nee Johnson. All I know of Frances is that she lived in 33 Hotham Street, Hull in 1908 as an older woman. I think her birth would have been between 1816 to 1828. Her closest born brother George Richard SKELTON was born in 1823 in Lancashire. I don't know any more on his birth either. Can anyone help me with either Frances or George? Any advice will be very gladly received as I am totally stuck on these two. Cheers from a hot Australian day :-) Debbie

Hello!, I am new to the list and would like to post my interests. Joseph Walker b: 1801, Corbridge, Nthmblnd, probably s/o Joseph Walker <1770> and Elizabeth Brown <1775>. He m: Ann Hick, b: 27 July 1813, Kilham, in Bridlington in 1833/34. She was d/o William Hick and Ann Knaggs. Wm b: 1772, Cayton. Ann b: Feb 1780, Garton on Wolds. Wm was servant in husbandry of Wilsthorp, Bridlington, and they were m: 4 Feb 1804 in Kilham. Ann was d/o Thomas Knaggs and Ann Postilll, m: 25 Apr 1765 in Garton on Wolds. .Joseph W. and Ann H. had John 1834, Wm (died) Jabez 1837, Ann 1842, Mary 1844, all in christened in Bridlington and went to Ontario Canada, Huron Co. in 1848. There they had Jane 1852 and Joseph 1854. Joseph had a brother David b: 1803 and he was in Ontario in 1871 census living with John W. and his wife Mary Luxton Chapple Walker. Any of these sound familiar? Thank you for any assistance. Sincerely, Laura - WA state.

Just wishing a Merry Christmas to all listers & reiterating my East Yorkshire interests: FUTTY, Holderness (Hollym, Withernsea, Easington, Garton) FOSTER/FORSTER, Beverley DAYES, Beverley PARKER, North Newbald WARD, North Newbald MOUNTAIN, North Newbald KING, North Newbald HILTON, Holderness Colleen Andrews http://www.geocities.com/clandrews_2000

Hi, I am new to the list, trying to trace my mother's side of the family. Tracing Harry Wilkinson b. in Hull in 1920's ( I believe he is no longer living. Married Gwendoline Mary Anthony, daughter of Lilian Beatrice Lawe and Ernest Anthony in Hull in Sep.1944. They moved to West Stockwith, Notts. but Harry left around 1950 ish. Harry was in the army, Essex regiment, had a brother called William. Known to have lived a long time ago at Hedon Road, Marfleet, Hull. If these names ring a bell for anyone, I would love to hear from you. Happy Holidays from Oregon, USA. Kerry Bannister --------------------------------------------- Introducing NetZero Long Distance 1st month Free! Sign up today at: www.netzerolongdistance.com

Hello! I s anyone reseaching the name Westerdale in Holderness or Hull? William WESTERDALE was baptised in Garton with Grimston in 1822, son of Henry WESTERDALE, Joiner, and Elizabeth. William married Mary WATSON at Howden in 1843. They subsequently moved back to Garton where 2 children were baptised: 1844 Sep 15th John s. of William & Mary Westerdale, Grimston Lodge, Labourer Born July 28 1846 Sep. 6th Ann d. of William & Mary Westerdale, Grimston Lodge, Labourer Born Aug. 8th. Another child, Mary Jane Westerdale was born in Hull in 1851. William died before the 1851 census, probably in Hull. Westerdale William, Sculcoates, 22 / 372 1850 4th. Qtr. Mary his wife and 3 children are on Holderness Rd Hull in 1851: 1851 HO 107 Piece 2360 Folio 724 page 23 (723 verso) Southcoates, Hull. Schedule 86. Holderness Rd. 2 Nags Head Lane. Mary Westerdale Head Wid 30 born North Cave Ann do Daur 4 born Garton Betsy do Daur 2 born Garton Mary Jane do Daur 1month born Hull I am not aware that Mary subsequently remarried. She is still a widow in 1861. 1861 RG 9 Piece 3580 Folio 133 page 40 Southcoates, Hull. Schedule 208, Nags Head Lane. Mary Westerdale Head Wid 41 Charwoman born No. Cave Elizabeth do Dau 12 Scholar born Garton Mary J do Do 10 Do born Hull Betsey Holland Lodger U m 27 Dress Maker born Lincoln, Mumby Chris Watson http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1123&item=1981387458&rd=1

Hi List, Many thanks to all of you who have assisted me during the time I have been on this list. May you all have a good holiday period and the seasons greetings to one and all. For all of you who think it would be nice to be in the warm in Australia at the moment you might like to read this: You know you're in an Australian Summer when.... a.. The best parking place is determined by shade instead of distance. b.. Hot water now comes out of both taps. c.. You learn that a seat belt buckle makes a pretty good branding iron. d.. The temperature drops below 35C and you feel a little chilly. e.. You discover that in February it only takes 2 fingers to steer your car. f.. You break a sweat the instant you step outside at 7:30 a.m. g.. Your biggest bicycle wreck fear is, "What if I get knocked out and end up lying on the pavement and cook to death?" h.. You realise that asphalt has a liquid state. i.. Farmers are feeding their chickens crushed ice to keep them from laying hard-boiled eggs. j.. The cows are giving evaporated milk. k.. The trees are whistling for the dogs. Les from Oz

Hello All Does anyone out there have a copy of Cottingham MIs to hand ? If so please could they kindly look and see if Richard and Hannah JAQUES or JAKES are there for me - I am looking for confirmation that Hannah Jaques was born about 1754. Many thanks and Happy Christmas to all Bye for now Deb in a cold and frosty Dewsbury, West Yorks

Thought I should pass this on, apologies for the cross postings. Steve Garton Researching: DUFFIN - South Cave, Nafferton & Hull HENNING - Hull GARTON - Cranford EADY - Burton Latimer, Grafton Underwood Visit my website for my family tree, transcripts of Cranford St Andrew & Cranford St John parish records and Pigots 1834 Commercial Directory of Yorkshire. URL: http://website.lineone.net/~stevejgarton List Administrator for ALLERSTON, DUFFIN, GARTON & HAMPSHIRE surname mailing lists on Rootsweb. Maintainer of Northamptonshire Parish Data Index http://stevejgarton.bravepages.com/NPD.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Mitchell" <tony.mitchell@virgin.net> To: <NORTHANTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 7:55 PM Subject: [NTH] Fees for certificates > Fees for obtaining certificates from GRO and Register Offices are to > increase from 1st April 2003 - so get your applications in now! > > For details see the 16 December press release entitled "Registration Fees to > Increase" on www.statistics.gov.uk/press_release/currentreleases.asp > > Regards > > Tony Mitchell > > > ==== NORTHANTS Mailing List ==== > If you have information that you would like to share and would like to post URL's, etc. to the Tag Lines, please contact Kevin Haddenham, List Owner at dagwood@tdn.com. >

I am looking for descendants of Thomas Topham who married Frances Johnson (b 1804) on May 7, 1828 in Weaverthorpe. They had at least the following children: Mary, Susannah, Johnson (a boy?), and Moses from 1829 to 1836. There may have been more, all of these facts were found in the IGI and the registers have not yet been searched. I wonder if they stayed in England or eventually moved to Canada like all of her siblings did. Some of her siblings may have moved as early as 1828 while her father and step-mother and the younger children apparently left in 1832. I have found English-born Tophams in Canadian censuses, but none of these. -- Glen Johnson Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada <dancer@v-net.org>