Hello Everyone, As some of you may already know Kevin Dodson is easing back on his workload and taking a well earned rest. I am sure you will all join me in thanking him for running this list the past year or so and wish him well for the future. As new list admin I hope the list will continue just the way it has under his guidance, happy hunting everyone :-) Regards Marion List Admin, ENG-EAST-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com ENG-DURHAM-L@rootsweb.com DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com ENG-ONENAMESTUDIES-L@rootsweb.com and many more LOL --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003

Hi everyone, I'm reposting my 'stickiest' names in the hope of finding some connections, or help with HUVIS William BRAITHWAITE born Newport 1850 (probably) , married in 1872 in POCKLINGTON to Sophie THACKRAY; mother of the same name( her father was Thomas STEWARDSON of Pocklington). One son was Ernest George Braithwaite, my gt grandfather who married Emily GILES in Pocklington. Her father was Henry Giles born in Barmby Moor in 1859. Mother Annie GORDON of Kilnwick Percy born 1855. Also Betsy Ann EVISON of WRANGLE Lincs. born 1868 whose mother was Betsy HUVIS on her cert. (could it be Hoves? as I've never found any other of that name) Also researching Entwistles in Bradford and Varleys in Wilsden near Bradford and in New Zealand. Thanks for your attention Elaine in Ireland

I hace Collinson in my family tree, my mother's maiden name was Collinson. They lived near to the East Coast in Yorkshire, they were farmers. I have a William born approx 1782 and is son Charles born 1820. also have Collinson in Anlaby, do any of these ring bells with you, let me know if I can help. Hilary

Is anyone researching the EATON name in Hull.Especially looking for the family of the above.. Florence married Clarence PEARSON in 1923 and I would like to find any children they may have had. Many thanks Pauline[Hull]

Hello David I don't have an Ann Collinson in my tree at the moment - though she may, of course, belong on one of the branches. My earliest Collinson is one Thomas John, born around 1800 in the village of Hook, west of Hull, he married a Sarah, born Elloughton, same area, same time. They both died around 1876. They were the parents of my great grandfather Spence(r), born Anlaby 1836 and married to Susanna(h) Stainton, born Cleethorpes 1837/8. They had at least 9 children, Thomas John, Sarah Ellen, George Henry, Maud Maranna, Alexander Stainton, Edwin, Herbert A., Laura A., and Alfred my grandfather. At least the last 5 were born in Beverley. If they don't belong to you maybe someone else might claim them. I am particularly interested in finding out more about the Stainton family of Grimsby and Cleethorpes. I am led to believe that Susanna's father was a Captain who was lost at sea in 1872. I hope this helps someone. Cheers Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: David Watts <dave.watts@dial.pipex.com> To: Barbara Ramsden <barbara_ramsden@hotmail.com> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 7:00 PM Subject: RE: [ERY] 1851 Census help? > Barbara > > I have an Ann Collinson in my family tree - 1771 to 1848 - she married > Robert Nicholson in Kilham near Beverley. Is she one of the Collinsons you > are researching? If so I'll be happy to let you have any info you need. > > Best wishes > > David Watts > > -----Original Message----- > From: Barbara Ramsden [mailto:barbara_ramsden@hotmail.com] > Sent: 06 February 2003 12:43 > To: ENG-EAST-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ERY] 1851 Census help? > > > Hi Nancy > > I have a Jessie Read in my family tree. She was born 1856/7 and married > 1886 in Great Yarmouth, Norfolk but settled in Hull with her husband Magnus > William Lawrence Stow. They can be found on the 1891 census, living at 7 > Elm Tree Row, Hull with 2 children and on the 1901 census at South Parade, > Holy Trinity, Hull with 3 younger children (Ref RG13/4504 Folio 67, Page 6). > She died in 1931 in Hull. She was my paternal, paternal great grandmother. > > Is she a relative of yours? > > Cheers > Barbara Ramsden in Cumbria. > > Researching > Stove/Stow Shetlands, Hull and Milford Haven > Read Hull and Great Yarmouth > Hardaker Hull and Leeds > Manning Ipswich > Collinson Hull, Beverley and Anlaby > Simpson Beverley and Leven > Bilton Beverley > Stainton Cleethorpes, Lincs > ----- Original Message ----- > From: nancy shepherdson <SJNanner@compuserve.com> > To: <ENG-EAST-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 6:20 AM > Subject: [ERY] 1851 Census help? > > > > Hi all-- > > > > Can SKS do a look up for me in the 1851 census for East Sculcoates? I am > > looking for the Thomas WILSON, age 33, and his son Thomas, age 8. I am > > interested to discover Thomas's occupation, address, birthplace and other > > people in the household. I believe they can be found on Folio 199v. > > > > Thank you so much for any help you can provide. > > > > Nancy Shepherdson > > > > Researching: SHEPHERDSON, PICKERSGILL, NORMAN, WILSON, LAZENBY, FRANKS, > > GODSON, CALVERT, READ, BOLTON in Yorkshire > > > > ______________________________ >

Kingston upon Hull was not, aministratively, part of the East Riding and had many of the duties and responsibilities of a county. It therfore was sometimes referred to as the City and County of Kingston upon Hull Richard Dawson

Thanks Steve will try your lead on the Johnsons, thankyou, Josephine.

Hi Gail, I read your e-mail with interest as we are also thought to be related to Amy Johnson. My GGrandfather was a Robert Johnson, born in Kingston on Hull, as was Amy. There is a very good History of Amy Johnson on the Internet. I do know that she attended Sheffield University which is where some of the Johnsons lived. This is where my GGrandfather moved to as well. Unfortunately I haven't had time to track down the links on the Johnsons yet. The only other thing I can tell you is that she met a tragic end in the Thames River flying a Plane down from Scotland for the RAF in early 1940's she was born around (I believe) c1902 in Hull. She was also the World's first Ground Mechanic as well as a super flyer. Flew solo to New Zealand etc. ----- Original Message ----- From: <GHaigh9483@aol.com> To: <ENG-EAST-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 11:16 AM Subject: [ERY] Fenton, Johnson.( amy) > Hi everyone, > I am researching FENTON'S from the Seaton Ross area. > My Gt,Gt, Grandmother was a Johnson before marriage, and I believe she was a > cousin of AMY JOHNSON the flyer. Any info would be helpfull. > Regards > Gail > > > ==== ENG-EAST-YORKS Mailing List ==== > LOST? please use the "Where is it in Yorkshire?" index > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/Misc/Where/index.html > The Maintainer of the Genuki Yorkshire pages is Colin Hinson > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hello David I have a small book entitled "Captives of Freedom" concerning Free Methodism in Australia (1837-1901) Indexed in the above book is (sic) David Porteus, b 1830 Ireland c. in the Wesleyan Canvas Church at Pleasant Creek 1850s under the ministry of Rev W Woodall, Commenced ministry as a Home Missionary in New Zealand, recorded at West Coast NZ 1866, d. 1916, buried Box Hill Victoria. He was a member of the Royal Commission on Religious Instruction in State Schools, Victoria 1900. Father of Stanley David Porteus (1883-1972) psychologist, educationist and writer. There are a few other bits of information about his ministry service, dates and places, etc. Regards, Valerie ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ENG-EAST-YORKS-D@rootsweb.com Sent: 2/6/2003 7:01:36 AM Subject: ENG-EAST-YORKS-D Digest V03 #25 ENG-EAST-YORKS-D Digest Volume 03 : Issue 25 Today's Topics: #1 Re: [ERY] Re: Parish ["David Lamb" davidlamb@members.sh ] #2 [ERY] Occupation or Trade ["PETER ATKINSON" #3 Re: [ERY] Occupation or Trade ["Mary Varley" m@mvarley.freeserve ] #4 Re: [ERY] Occupation or Trade ["Anne Margolis" #5 [ERY] Re: Parish ["Jean Garforth" #6 [ERY] DIXON-Warthill ["Barbara Lane" #7 [ERY] PORTEOUS/PORTEUS emigration [Bruce Porteous #8 [ERY] Occupation or Trade ["PETER ATKINSON" #9 Re: [ERY] Re: Parish ["Alistair Chafer" #10 [ERY] Parish ["Julie Nicholls" #11 [ERY] 1851 Look up (HAMPSON) [Patol70@aol.com ] #12 Re: [ERY] Occupation or Trade [R S leetooze lmjassoc@durham.net ] #13 Re: [ERY] 1851 Look up (HAMPSON) ["Jean Garforth" #14 [ERY] Re: THANK YOU [MIDGE780@aol.com ] #15 Re: [ERY] 1851 Census help? ["Barbara Ramsden" Administrivia: To unsubscribe from ENG-EAST-YORKS-D, send a message to ENG-EAST-YORKS-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. To contact the ENG-EAST-YORKS-D list administrator, send mail to ENG-EAST-YORKS-admin@rootsweb.com. ______________________________ --- David Mueller --- eaglenst2@earthlink.net --- EarthLink: It's your Internet.

Hi, On most of my Hull certificates is says 'in the County of the said Town' or 'in the county of Kingston upon Hull'. The City and some of the Parishes to the West, Hessle, North Ferriby and Kirk Ella were collectively known as Hullshire from the 1600's onwards. Regards Chris Watson Links to 'A Muster Rooll of the East Riding of Yorkshire (1636)' http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1123&item=2707220726&rd=1 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=378&item=2707222127&rd=1 > > > Subject: Re: [ERY] Re: Parish > Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:30:00 -0000 > From: "David Lamb" <davidlamb@members.shines.net> > To: ENG-EAST-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com > > Hello, > > Hull is in Yorkshire - that is the county, so I cannot imagine what "Said > Isle" might be. The top of the certificate should say something such as: > > (Year) Marriage solemnized at the Parish Church in the Parish of (name > of parish) in the District of (Name of Registration District) in the County > of (Name of County) > > If I understand your message correctly, the words at the top of your > certificate read: > > (Year) Marriage solemnized at the Parish Church in the Parish of Holy > Trinity in the District of Hull in the County of Said Isle > > I have seen a reply which suggests "Sunk Island" for "Said Isle", but there > is no county name anywhere in the UK which is anything like either "Sunk > Island" or "Said Isle", and even if there were, Hull is in Yorkshire. > > I am slightly confused at the fact that you have as your subject "Re: > Parish", but it seems from your message that you already know that the > parish was Holy Trinity, Hull, and it is the strange-looking county name > which is causing you a problem. (I hasten to add that I am neither > complaining nor criticising, just making sure that I have understood your > question). > > A seed-crusher was someone who crushed seeds for their oil. Oilseed rape > flourished as a lamp oil on the railways until it was replaced by paraffin, > when cheap mineral oils became available. > > I hope this helps a little. > > David Lamb (Paignton, Devon, UK) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <MIDGE780@aol.com> > To: <ENG-EAST-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:54 AM > Subject: [ERY] Re: Parish > > > Hello Everyone, > > > > I have a Marriage Certificate that was solemnized at Hull in the Holy > Trinity > > Church. > > > > However, I cannot read the County. It looks like 'Said Isle'. Also the > Rank

Hi Nancy I have a Jessie Read in my family tree. She was born 1856/7 and married 1886 in Great Yarmouth, Norfolk but settled in Hull with her husband Magnus William Lawrence Stow. They can be found on the 1891 census, living at 7 Elm Tree Row, Hull with 2 children and on the 1901 census at South Parade, Holy Trinity, Hull with 3 younger children (Ref RG13/4504 Folio 67, Page 6). She died in 1931 in Hull. She was my paternal, paternal great grandmother. Is she a relative of yours? Cheers Barbara Ramsden in Cumbria. Researching Stove/Stow Shetlands, Hull and Milford Haven Read Hull and Great Yarmouth Hardaker Hull and Leeds Manning Ipswich Collinson Hull, Beverley and Anlaby Simpson Beverley and Leven Bilton Beverley Stainton Cleethorpes, Lincs ----- Original Message ----- From: nancy shepherdson <SJNanner@compuserve.com> To: <ENG-EAST-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 6:20 AM Subject: [ERY] 1851 Census help? > Hi all-- > > Can SKS do a look up for me in the 1851 census for East Sculcoates? I am > looking for the Thomas WILSON, age 33, and his son Thomas, age 8. I am > interested to discover Thomas's occupation, address, birthplace and other > people in the household. I believe they can be found on Folio 199v. > > Thank you so much for any help you can provide. > > Nancy Shepherdson > > Researching: SHEPHERDSON, PICKERSGILL, NORMAN, WILSON, LAZENBY, FRANKS, > GODSON, CALVERT, READ, BOLTON in Yorkshire > > ______________________________

Hi everyone, I am researching FENTON'S from the Seaton Ross area. My Gt,Gt, Grandmother was a Johnson before marriage, and I believe she was a cousin of AMY JOHNSON the flyer. Any info would be helpfull. Regards Gail

Hi Pat, I can give you the family from the EYFHS 1851 Census Indexes if that helps. HO 107/2361 - WEST SCULCOATES Folio 514v Ann 26 Glossop, DBY Catherine E 2 Glossop, DBY Christopher 27 Glossop, DBY Sarah A. 1 Hull, YKS Looks like you might be starting a whole new adventure! Jean Garforth - HULL ----- Original Message ----- From: <Patol70@aol.com> To: <ENG-EAST-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 12:18 AM Subject: [ERY] 1851 Look up (HAMPSON) > Could SKS with access to the 1851 Census please look up the following family: > > CHRISTOPHER HAMPSON > ANN HAMPSON + any children? My g grandmother,MARY JANE,was not born until > July 1851. > Reed Street Terrace > HULL (West Sculcoates given on birth cert.) > > And, if it's not asking too much, whether they were still in Hull by the time > of the 1861 Census? > > Any help much appreciated > Pat Oliver > > > ==== ENG-EAST-YORKS Mailing List ==== > LOST? please use the "Where is it in Yorkshire?" index > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/Misc/Where/index.html > The Maintainer of the Genuki Yorkshire pages is Colin Hinson > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Good Morning All, Many thanks to all the people who responded to my query about the County 'Said.......? I think I managed to reply to each individually but I just wanted to say what a lovely lot of helpful people you are on this list. Regards Marjorie

Hello David Is there any possibility that your mystery word says Sculcoates? Best wishes Julie Nicholls (nee WEST) Gt. Yarmouth Norfolk

Hi, I too have a cert that says "in the County of said Town" and another that says in the County of Kingston upon Hull. Alistair ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Garforth" <boudicca@boudicca.karoo.co.uk> To: <ENG-EAST-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 2:32 PM Subject: [ERY] Re: Parish > > Hi Marjory, > > I have at two marriage certificates, one for Holy Trinity, Hull and on for St. Barnabas', Hull which say "in the County of said Town". > Is it possible that under closer examination the word may be Town? Why town I have no idea because Hull is a city. Probably a Clerical thing. Maybe the Church has different terminology to the rest of us!! > > Kind regards. > > Jean Garforth - HULL > > > ==== ENG-EAST-YORKS Mailing List ==== > LOST? please use the "Where is it in Yorkshire?" index > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/Misc/Where/index.html > The Maintainer of the Genuki Yorkshire pages is Colin Hinson > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Thanks to everyone who replied to my query iro ''whitesmith''. The problem has been solved. Regards Peter

Posting my interest. I am studying the history and migration of the PORTEOUS and PORTEUS families (as well as other variant spellings, such as PORTAS, PORTESS, PORTIS, PORTICE, PORTUS - amongst many others). I'm researching the history and spread of the above names ­ especially the migration of members of any branches of this formerly small Borders family from southern Scotland - initially to England and Ireland, then to the US and Canada - and later to the former British colonies of New Zealand, Australia and South Africa (from the 17th through to the early 20th centuries), and the main original areas of settlement (cities, provinces and states). Yorkshire, including the East Riding, is known to have contained a cluster of PORTEOUS families from the eighteenth century onwards. Any confirmed information regarding dates of emigration or arrival and places of origin and settlement would be appreciated. Bruce PORTEOUS Porteous Research Project Norfolk, England porteousresearch@mail.com http://porteous.digitalrice.com/

Could SKS with access to the 1851 Census please look up the following family: CHRISTOPHER HAMPSON ANN HAMPSON + any children? My g grandmother,MARY JANE,was not born until July 1851. Reed Street Terrace HULL (West Sculcoates given on birth cert.) And, if it's not asking too much, whether they were still in Hull by the time of the 1861 Census? Any help much appreciated Pat Oliver

Hi everyone I have just joined the list having found what I think is my first Yorkshire ancestor, and I dont know Yorkshire at all!! Has anyone out there got an interest in DIXON. My relly is (I think!) JANE DIXON born about 1819 in Warthill according to the 1881 census. She moved to Cheshire and married Isaac Leah. Please can anyone confirm where Warthill is? Is it a suburb of York? My other interests so far are as follows: FOORD PELHAM BARNES ATKINSON ALCE MARCHANT East Sussex TOWNSLEY JOBLING REAY RICHARDSON in Co Durham/Northumberland BRAMHALL WATSON LEAH BIGLAND BLAIN in Cheshire BIGLAND BLAIN Liverpool and Cumbria BarbaraHLane _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with MSN Messenger http://messenger.msn.co.uk