----- Original Message ----- From: "getsmart" <getsmart@beeb.net> To: "Soyer" <psoyer@noos.fr> Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 11:03 PM Subject: Re: [ERY] Re: ENG-EAST-YORKS-D Digest V03 #36 > I have got back as far as Robert Wright, a farmer from Fitling, who married > Ann Carrick at Aldbrough, Near Hull, 25 November 1782. > > Their children were Harriott, bapt 1783, Robert, bapt 1784, Ann Carrick > Wright, bapt 1787, Elizabeth Wright, bapt 1788. All were baptised at > Humbleton. > > Ann Carrick Wright married William Canham in 1811. > > Robert Wright, who also was a farmer at Fitling, married Rebecca and had at > least two sons, William Wright, born about 1830/1831 and John Wright, born > about 1836/1837. > > William Wright married Jane (from Bridlington) and in 1881 lived at Lane > House, Humbleton & Flinton & Lelley with children Robert W Wright (24), > Rifley Wright (23), John C Wright (19), Agnes E Wright (17), Ann E Wright > (14), Charles E Wright (10) and Albert E Wright (9). On the 1881 Census > there was also a visitor, Elizabeth Wright (18), a farmer's daughter who was > born in Meaux. > > John Wright married Sarah Ann (born in Brantiff) and went to Cottingham, > where he worked as a joiner. The 1881 Census shows five children: William > Wright (20), John Henry Wright (18), Sarah Ann Wright (16), Mart Wright (14) > and George Wright (10). > > The Clark connection is brief: Joseph Spink married Ann CLARK at Rise on 24 > April 1809. They lived in Aldbrough, near Hull, possibly in an area called > Tansterne. Their daughter Elizabeth Spink married John Canham of Fitling , > son of William Canham and Ann Carrick Wright (above). I have no other info > about the Clarks. > > Dorothy, > > Altrincham, Cheshire. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Soyer" <psoyer@noos.fr> > To: "getsmart" <getsmart@beeb.net> > Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 5:24 PM > Subject: Re: [ERY] Re: ENG-EAST-YORKS-D Digest V03 #36 > > > > Hello Dorothy > > > > I am researching a CLARK family based in Hull (maybe Scottish or Irish in > > origin) and also a WRIGHT family in Hull (Scottish origins) . Do you think > > there may be a connection to the families you are researching? If so I > would > > be delighted to hear from you although I realise that both these names are > > quite common. > > > > Best wishes > > Pamela Soyer > > Paris, France > > > > >

Hi Pat. Contact the Hull Archives at 79 Lowgate, Hull, HU1 2AA tel 01482 610610 as they have some Hull schools records. It would also be worth contacting the Hull Local Studies Library to see what they have www.LOCAL.Studies@hull.gov.uk Peter B ----- Original Message ----- From: <Patol70@aol.com> To: <ENG-EAST-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 15 February 2003 14:23 Subject: [ERY] Schools in Hull in the 1850s > I wonder if anyone could advise me on any archives ,etc relating to the > above. > My gg grandfather CHRISTOPHER HAMPSON then living at Reed Street > Terrace,Hull/Sculcoates-West was a school master. > It's such a change of occupation from the usual mule overlooker,farm > worker,etc that it would be good to find out more about him. > On an old map I saw a reformatory quite nearby! > Thank you > Pat Oliver(retired school mistress ie kindred spirit of C H ) > > ______________________________

Hello Charles, The following were listed in HULL for the above name. Dwelling: 133 Bean Street, Census Place: Holy Trinity, Kingston upon Hull, Source: FHL Film 1342154 PRO Ref. RG11 Piece 4780 Folio 22 Page 38 Ed. Lewis GUNTHER Head M 34 M Heligoland (Naturalized B. Subject) Occ: Lighterman Betsy GUNTHER Wife M 23 F Scawby, Lincoln Minnie GUNTHER Daur 2 F Hull, York Mary A. PINDER Mother M 53 F Atwick, York Occ: Farmer's Wife I have checked the 1851 EYFHS Census Indexes for HULL and there are no GUNTHERs. If you would like details of the GUNTHERs in Wales in 1881, please let me know and I will send them to you. There are also a few scattered in other parts of Britain in 1881 which I will be happy to send you if you have not got them. Kind regards. Jean Garforth - Hull

----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara and John" <johngilbert@sympatico.ca> To: <RichardDeedee@aol.com> Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [ERY] Hull Grammar School > As a former pupil of the Hull Grammar School (1948-1954), I can provide some > answers to your questions. The school was founded in 1479 and was certainly > in operation in the late 19th cent. In 1969, reform of the state school > system, resulted in the school being converted from a grammer school entered > by scholarship examination, into a comprehensive school. In 1988, the school > became a sixth form college and was renamed William Gee. The Hull Grammar > School was however reborn as a private school in the former Marist College > buildings on Cottingham Rd, Hull, where it remains today. For more details > you can go to their web site - www.hullgrammarsch.karoo.co.uk. > Hope this helps. > John Gilbert > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <RichardDeedee@aol.com> > To: <ENG-EAST-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 2:40 PM > Subject: [ERY] Hull Grammar School > > > > Family legend has it the my father, born Rise in 1865, attended Hull > Grammar > > School. Did such a school exist in the late 19th cent. does it still > exist > > under that name or another. > > > > Richard Dawson > > > > > > ==== ENG-EAST-YORKS Mailing List ==== > > Other Rootsweb Genealogy Lists > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/ > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.454 / Virus Database: 253 - Release Date: 10/02/2003 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.454 / Virus Database: 253 - Release Date: 10/02/2003

Recar is North Yorkshire go to http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/ENG-NORTH-YORKS.html -----Original Message----- From: ENG-EAST-YORKS-D-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:ENG-EAST-YORKS-D-request@rootsweb.com] Sent: 16 February 2003 08:02 To: ENG-EAST-YORKS-D@rootsweb.com Subject: ENG-EAST-YORKS-D Digest V03 #39 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003

Could someone please advise me if this is the correct list to enquire about family in Recar Many thanks Jim

Wondering if some kind list member might be able to provide some information about the following: ALICE SAWDON who operated a Boarding house at #8 or 9 BARRACKS TERRACE, Scarborough during the Second World War. She had 3 daughters: OLIVE who married ARTHUR BIRD, HILDA who married JACK WILKINSON, a police officer, and ELSIE who did not marry. ELSIE died on March 15, 1981,at 19 SPRING HILL CLOSE, SCARBOROUGH. It was probably a 'nursing home or seniors' apartments or some such, but I understand it is now some sort of medical centre. Any help gratefully appreciated. Thank you and best wishes from Canada, Mary Barker Wilkinson

pauline <pauline@ingslane.karoo.co.uk> wrote: > John RIBY married Mary SCREETON in Skeffling 1868. > Is anyone researching either of the above families in the Skeffling/Patrington area,as I would like to find some of Mary`s family.According to her Marriage Certificate she was born in 1848,[1881 Census born Patrington] ,daughter of Robert SCREETON,but the only Mary SCREETON I can find that comes anywhere near is ;Mary SCREETON born 1852 in Patrington,daughter of Robert SCREETON and Susanna.[IGI] This would have made her only 16 at marriage,so I suppose she could have lied about her age.Would 16 be too young.? No, it was certainly possible then (as now) for girls to marry at 16, and it's also quite common to find an incorrect age on a marriage certificate. But bear in mind that the IGI entry is for a baptism, not a birth, so Mary could have been born some time earlier. You should be able to check this in the GRO indexes, or the national or Yorkshire BMD websites. You may not be able to answer this yet, but I'd be interested to hear if your SCREETON line goes back to the Nottingham area. This name and variants (SCRATON/SCREATON etc) appear in my wife's line, and they are possibly all connected. (Confusingly the IGI lists SCRATON separately from the others, but it didn't seem to have a Mary that fitted anyway.) Arthur Kennedy

Hi Pat, According to White's General Directory of KuH, 1851, Christopher Hampson was at the Dock Green School. Sorry I cannot help as to where the records may be kept or where Dock Green was. Hope this helps. Jean Garforth.

Dear List Members, I have recently come across a copy of a printed booklet containing a poem called "Lines on the Erection of The Reform Chapel, Beverley A.D. 1856", written by Joshua Roberts (1806-1884). Joashua, an ancestor of mine, was a Methodist lay preacher. The poem is certainly not a great work, but it does have an historical interest, especially as it mentions a number of people connected to the chapel. Their names are: BAINBRIDGE, BRAIMBRIDGE,CARLEE,DIAL,DIXON,GRAINGER,LAWTY,LOFT,MOODY,MUSGRAVE,OSGERBY,PAPE,SAWNEY,STAFFORD,VERITY and WELBOURNE. If anyone is searching for these names and would like to read the poem I will gladly send them a copy off-list. Meanwhile, if anyone has any information whatsoever about Joshua ROBERTS, who had been born in North Somercotes, Lincolnshire in 1806, I would be more than grateful to receive it. With all best wishes Paul Roberts

Family legend has it the my father, born Rise in 1865, attended Hull Grammar School. Did such a school exist in the late 19th cent. does it still exist under that name or another. Richard Dawson

I wonder if anyone could advise me on any archives ,etc relating to the above. My gg grandfather CHRISTOPHER HAMPSON then living at Reed Street Terrace,Hull/Sculcoates-West was a school master. It's such a change of occupation from the usual mule overlooker,farm worker,etc that it would be good to find out more about him. On an old map I saw a reformatory quite nearby! Thank you Pat Oliver(retired school mistress ie kindred spirit of C H )

Could SKS with access to the 1861 Census for Hull/Sculcoates please check on the following family: CHRISTOPHER HAMPSON (37) ANN (36) CATHERINE E (12) SARAH A (11) MARY J (9) In 1851 they were living at Reed Street Terrace,Hull/Sculcoates-West and he was then working as a school master. Thank you Pat Oliver

Could I list my Surname Interests, in case anyone else out there is researching the same names? I'm researching CANHAM (including CANNAM and CANNOM), DEARING, SPINK, CLARK, CARRICK, WRIGHT, LINSLEY and GANNON. Dorothy, Altrincham Cheshire

John RIBY married Mary SCREETON in Skeffling 1868. Is anyone researching either of the above families in the Skeffling/Patrington area,as I would like to find some of Mary`s family.According to her Marriage Certificate she was born in 1848,[1881 Census born Patrington] ,daughter of Robert SCREETON,but the only Mary SCREETON I can find that comes anywhere near is ;Mary SCREETON born 1852 in Patrington,daughter of Robert SCREETON and Susanna.[IGI] This would have made her only 16 at marriage,so I suppose she could have lied about her age.Would 16 be too young.? Any help or info would be very welcome Thank you Pauline[Hull]

Just to mention that my grgrgrandparents Patrick and Sarah Hare/Hair had 5(five) chidren baptised on 21 Jul 1833 at St.James,Kingston upon Hull according to the IGI on-line files. Peter

Hello, I am sure that is right, too. I suppose the principal was the same - economy. People who were not poor could better afford to take a working day off. I couldn't remember where I had read about clergymen waiving their fee on Christmas Day, so I did a "Google" search, and found a thread of messages on the subject, in the archives of the Midmarch Rootsweb list (which wasn't where I saw it originally, as I have never been a subscriber to that list). Anyway, one such message stated: "I had it from the horses mouth. My Dad told me that he was married on Christmas Day, 1919 because they were very poor and the minister did not charge for Christmas Day weddings." Regards, David Lamb (Paignton, Devon, UK) ----- Original Message ----- From: <MomNat@aol.com> To: <ENG-EAST-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [ERY] Multiple baptisms. > In a message dated 2/14/2003 3:30:26 AM Eastern Standard Time, > davidlamb@members.shines.net writes: > > > > people chose to be married on Christmas Day > > I was under the impression people were married on Christms Day because that > was their only day off >

Graham Apart from anything else I'm sure that it was illegal for Thomas Spink to have married his deceased wife's sister when he did. I believe that it became legal only in the 20th. century. Richard

Can any Lister tell me if and when the East Yorkshire Regimental Museum, Butcher Row,Beverley,closed? Have the exhibits been incorporated elsewhere? I found it refered to in a book, 'East York Volunteer Infantry 1859-1908' by R.Wilson & G.A.Collinson. I have had a frustrating time trying to find information about the Militia at Londesborough Barracks,Hull c 1870's. Have appealed for help before and everyone has suggestions and I spent a little(too little!!) time in York and Hull last year to no avail. TIA Carol Martin

True. . . .Nor that they refer to multiple births!! I always have this problem with a fellow family historian, who insists that "twins run in the family". The mother of the so-called "twins" had 6 illegitimate children and 4 of those were baptised in two lots, so he assumes they were twins. I think she just wasn't very eager to get to the church to show off her most recent "mistakes"! I think the first one baptised was actually closer to 4 years old at the time of baptism, if his age at death is anything to go by (as it probably is not, but there's another can of worms. . .). Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: "getsmart" <getsmart@beeb.net> To: <ENG-EAST-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 10:23 PM Subject: [ERY] Multiple baptisms. > Hi Graham, > > Trawling through parish records, I have found many instances of multiple > baptism. Earlier this evening, at my local LDSFHC, I was going through a > microfilm for Eastry Parish Church, Kent. In the early 1800's there are > several multiple baptisms, as many as four children at once. They all seem > to follow the same pattern: the new baby being baptised along with two or > three older children at the same time. > > One lesson to be learned from this though, is that you cannot assume a year > of birth from a baptism record! > > Dorothy Smart, > > Altrincham, Cheshire. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary Varley" <m@mvarley.freeserve.co.uk> > To: <ENG-EAST-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 5:04 PM > Subject: Fw: [ERY] SPINK and HUDSON > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Graham Metcalf" <grahmetc@hotmail.com> > > > > > > I have discovered a connection to my family which has several unusual > features, and > > wonder if there is any other explanation than the obvious. > ............except that > > Margaret and Ann appear to have been Christened on the same day > > in 1798 at North Newbald, along with another sister, Elizabeth. Also, a > few years > > earlier, their two brothers, Thomas and Isaac appear to have also been > christened on the > > same day in 1793! I wonder if the parents, William and Jane Hudson delayed > their > > christenings so they could have several done together?........ > > > > Hi, Graham, > > > > If the family were non-conformists (e.g. Methodists) they may not > > have had their children christened in the Church soon after birth. > However. If the > > family fell on hard times they would probably have had to rely on poor > relief to help > > them out. Poor relief was doled out by the Church and it was often a > requisite that > > recipients had to be C. of E. and their children baptised in the C. > > of E. That could account for the multi-baptisms. > > > > > > Mary > > > > > > > ______________________________ > > ______________________________