To all who replied to my message on the Platt family and the Christening question I offer my thanks. You have given me some great information and some of it has extended my research back a little further. Too one new to research in England it is dificult understanding how the records are kept and the divisions of the land into counties, etc. So please bear with me as I ask some dumb questions until I get it straight in my mine, which I find harder to do as I advance in age. Leon

Hello, Mappleton (or "Mapleton" as it is written on one map I have seen) is only 4 or 5 miles from Albrough, so it is quite possible that Mary's parents lived in Albrough, but attended the church at Mappleton. Alternatively, they may have both resided and attended church in Mappleton, but Mrs. PLATT went to a friend or relation in Albrough (perhaps her own parents?) to give birth to Mary. Even more likely is that the person who gave the information for the 1851 Census made a mistake - I have several people in my family whose birthplace on the 1881 Census is given as "Sudbury, Suffolk" but whose birth certificates show they were born in Colchester, Essex. Perhaps if you go back a little further in the parish registers for Mappleton, you might find the marriage of Mary's parents. Regarding Doce(y), I am not sure if it was a diminutive of Dorcus, but I know that the usual spelling for the full name is "Dorcas", a name found in the bible, in Luke chapter 9 verse 36. The name means "gazelle". I hope this helps a little. Regards, David Lamb (Paignton, Devon, UK) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leon O. Kearns" <lokearns@marktwain.net> To: <ENG-EAST-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 3:58 PM Subject: [ERY] Platt, Question on Christenings > List, > > Having just come across information that has allowed me to start searching my America families English connections I have some questions. I have what I believe is my ggrandmothers mother and her parents showing the christening of Mary Platt Apr 2 1807 Mappleton, Yorkshire, England. In the 1851 census she list her birth place as Aldbrough. I see on the map that Mappleton is just up the east coast from Aldbrough, would she have been taken back to a parents home church? Also Mary's mother is listed as Docey and in another place as Doce, would this be a nickname for Dorcus? > > 1851 censu > Mary Ann Simpson b. 1807 Aldbrough > Jane b. 1829, Hull > George P. b. 1834, Hull > Elizabeth b. 1839, Hull > Caroline b. 1841, Hull > Dorcus b. 1846, Hull (My ggrandmother born Dec 29, 1845) > > Leon > > ______________________________

Hello Leon, There may have been any number of reasons why a babe was baptised in a neighbouring parish. Sometimes a vicar may cover more than one parish, again for several reasons or as you suggest - it was a matter of choice. I noticed in the MIs for Mappleton that Mary's mother? died and was buried at Mappleton in 1833. But her name was PLATTS. On her grave her name Dorcus PLATTS died 8th April, and in the Parish Register Dorcey PLATTS buried 14th April. There is no trace today of any other PLATT/S graves at Mappleton. Regards, Peter Fewson.

Is there some kind sole out there with access to the East Yorkshire 1851 census who would be able to help. I'm looking for Elizabeth Dowse, born Beverley 1838/9. Can someone see if they can find her. I'm hoping she was living with her parents at the time and I've not so far been able to identify them. Cheers David

Hi I would like to first thank the people who have so far responded to my request for information on THE JORDAN FAMILY. Encourage by this could I please now ask if SKP could look on the 1891 census for me and see who was living at 12 Richards Terrace, Kent Street, Hull. My relative WALTER GOULT was married from there on 23rd April 1893. Thanks in anticipation Freda Good Malvern. Worcs.

Dear List members, i am trying to trace the birth of Joshua ROBERTS, an ancestor who lived in various towns and villages in Lincolnshire from 1790 to his death in 1805. However, I know that he was apprenticed to John HINCHCLIFF, clothier, at Clayon, High Hoyland for a period of four or five years from 1770, when he was (according to a later Settlement Certificate in Lincolnshire) 17. So, he was born in or around 1753, probably (it seems to me) in Yorkshire somewhere. I know this is the wrong list for the High Hoyland area (West Riding), but there were later family connections with Beverley, so I wondered whether anyone might have come across him. Thanks and best wishes, Paul

Alan, Riplingham was not a parish but a hamlet straddling more than one parsh. You would need to look at: Elloughton Brantingham Rowley North Ferriby and possibly also Kirk Ella All the regiters are at the East Yorkshire Archives in Beverley and the Bishop's Transcripts at the Borthwick Institute in York. Berverley may also have some of the BT's on film, I'm not sure. Seaton? Do you mean Seaton Ross. If so then bothe the Parish Registers and the Bishop's Transcripts are at the Borthwick Institute in York Regards Chris Watson Links to a Muster Roll of the east Riding of Yorkshire (1636) http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1123&item=3502083213&rd=1 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=378&item=3501142174&rd=1 > Subject: [ERY] Parish Records > Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 20:02:30 -0000 > From: "Alan Atkinson" <Alan.Atkinson4@btinternet.com> > To: ENG-EAST-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com > > Hi All > Does anybody know where parish records would be kept for RIPLINGHAM and > SEATON > > Alan

Alan I think you will find Riplingham in the parish of Rowley. The parish registers and other records for Rowley and also Seaton Ross will be in the East Riding County Record Office in Beverley. Conrad All Does anybody know where parish records would be kept for RIPLINGHAM and SEATON Alan

hI, OOPS, sorry, when I posted my request for a look up on the 1891 census for the above family, I neglected to say that Barnsley Street, was off Holderness Road in HULL. I do know that the East Riding does not start and finish with Hull, honestly!!!!! Freda Good Malvern. Worcs.

Dear Listers, We'd very much appreciate a lookup in the 1851 census index for a William SIMPKIN and his wife, Catharine (both born c1797 in Burton Agnes). We'd love to know the birthplace given for William in particular! I'm unsure where he was in 1851 - my best guesses are still in Burton Agnes or else in Bridlington where some of his children were born. We're new to the area and are not sure how names are indexed in 1851. Any help would be greatly appreciated - thank you! Joan Canada

List, Having just come across information that has allowed me to start searching my America families English connections I have some questions. I have what I believe is my ggrandmothers mother and her parents showing the christening of Mary Platt Apr 2 1807 Mappleton, Yorkshire, England. In the 1851 census she list her birth place as Aldbrough. I see on the map that Mappleton is just up the east coast from Aldbrough, would she have been taken back to a parents home church? Also Mary's mother is listed as Docey and in another place as Doce, would this be a nickname for Dorcus? 1851 censu Mary Ann Simpson b. 1807 Aldbrough Jane b. 1829, Hull George P. b. 1834, Hull Elizabeth b. 1839, Hull Caroline b. 1841, Hull Dorcus b. 1846, Hull (My ggrandmother born Dec 29, 1845) Leon

Hello, I seem to remember reading in the past few days (but I'm not sure where) that the Rootsweb Archives are now almost full, so perhaps there will be problems until the "whatever-you-call-a-repository-for-electronic-archives" is enlarged. David Lamb (Paignton, Devon, UK) ----- Original Message ----- From: "cynthia elliott" <cynthia.elliott@sympatico.ca> To: <ENG-EAST-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 6:35 PM Subject: [ERY] E.Yks Parish record trans.-help! > Hello > > I too tried last night and there was only one or two messages in the > archives. When I tried a search I got the reply that these were not > available! > > Can anyone say why this is? > > Cynthia > Eastern Ontario > > ______________________________

Rob Williams <robdwilliams@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > > I have the Yorks 1891 census, but would appreciate help from anyone else who > has access to it. I sent a post in the other day about finding my SNEE > family in the 1901 Census. As a result of finding them I searched for their > address in 1891, and found them next door! > > The address was 21 Caroline St, Sculcoates, Hull. Living there were John & > Mary Snee and their numerous children. Also there in 1891, but not 1901, > was her father, William. I was wondering if anyone could read his surname > and his place of birth. I believe his occupation was a 'lath render' and I > think it says he was from Essex. > > The sheet I am looking at is R12-3926 folio 103, page 29. This entry is at > the top of the page. > > All help would be greatly appreciated, especially as this is the first time > I have come across her father. I agree the county looks like Essex. However, the place of his birth looks like "Rotten Dean", which could indicate Rottingdean, a few miles east of Brighton in Sussex. It's not too hard to mix up Essex and Sussex (unless you live there). The surname: "Emp..."? - perhaps a Yorkshire version of "Hemp..."? I looked in the 1881 index for Williams Emp...'s and Hemp...'s born around 1822 in both Essex and Sussex, but didn't find any that looked right. However, if you could find John and Mary's marriage entry, that should give you the surname. Good luck, Arthur Kennedy (in Sussex)

Hi All Does anybody know where parish records would be kept for RIPLINGHAM and SEATON Alan

Hello Caroline Yes both my sister & I tried Yorksgen. both got the same results I also noticed that someone else had tried too.It looks as if they have been removed Would You like to check , and let us know how we are going wrong? would appreciate, thanks Cynthia Canada

I seem only to be able to find the search page that allows searches back as far as 2000 but no further. Can anyone tell me how I can get back to the information mentioned for 1998 or 1999? Thanks, Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Caroline Gaden" <cagaden@northnet.com.au> To: <ENG-EAST-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 10:47 PM Subject: [ERY] Parish record transcriptions in the Rootsweb archives > Hello everyone > Going through some of my old folders I came across the following which may > help someone who is new to the Rootsweb lists. In July 1999 Carol posted a > list of names of those buried in Wetherby, in alphabetical order. The > Subject is Burials at Wetherby and the site is the Yorksgen archives at > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > There were other parish records published around this time (1998-1999) from > both NRY and ERY villages eg Skipwith, Skirpenbeck, South Milford, > Slingsby, Kirbymisperton, Kirbymoorside, Hovingham, Huntington, Stamford > Bridge, Stillingfleet, Thorganby, Sheriff Hutton all transcribed by Patricia > Porter. > Mark Gatenby did Egton Bridge in May 1999 and Sand Hutton in June 1999 and > Carlton Minniott in March 1999 > Chris Ireland did North Burton in January 1999 > Mike Breary did Mirfield in May 1999 > Pat Cook did Eastrington in March 1999 > Jeaner44 did Cayton in November 1999 > > Well worth a browse for those with folk in the area especially now you know > a name and date to chase for the postings > Apologies to those who get cross postings of this but I think some of the > newer folk may find the information useful. > Cheers > Caroline > > ______________________________

Hello I too tried last night and there was only one or two messages in the archives. When I tried a search I got the reply that these were not available! Can anyone say why this is? Cynthia Eastern Ontario

Hi I am reposting my interest in the Jordan Family. Is it possible for some kind person to do a look-up for me and see if this family were living in Barnsley Street on the 1991 census. Barnsley Street was the address of Florence Jordan when she married Walter Goult on the 23 April 1893:- John Jordan 43 years Elizabeth Jordan 39 years Florence Jordan 20 years John A Jordan 18 years George A Jordan 14 years Charlotte E Jordan 12 years Edwards Jordan 11 years. Many thanks Freda Good Malvern Worcs.

I am one of many people trying to find the forebears of the BALMER family of ornamental plasterers and builders which spread from Huntingdon to London, Canada and America. One clue which I feel may be very significant is that John BALMER, bapt 17 Jan 1803 at Huntingdon All Saints, married Mary Stevenson, bapt 9 May 1798 at Lythe. John's parents were John BALMER and Elizabeth, birthplaces and place of marriage not yet found. Lythe could be significant, as there were several BALMER families in North Yorkshire. Pondering the question of how a presumably agricultural family could be transformed into a world class plastering family, it struck me that the answer may lie in Castle Howard. Being so far from a major city, workers must have been drawn in from miles around and would have had plenty of time to learn and hone their skills, in some cases over three generations. Now the questions. Are there any records of the workers (I notice that Castle Howard only deals with professionals)? Do Malton parish registers show a great increase in the population in the 1700s and is there any way of accessing them which does not involve travel? On a practical level, people couldn't very well walk 25 miles home every night. Is there evidence of a temporary township for the hundreds who must have worked there? With apologies if this subject has been raised before, Jim Balmer

Hello everyone Going through some of my old folders I came across the following which may help someone who is new to the Rootsweb lists. In July 1999 Carol posted a list of names of those buried in Wetherby, in alphabetical order. The Subject is Burials at Wetherby and the site is the Yorksgen archives at http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl There were other parish records published around this time (1998-1999) from both NRY and ERY villages eg Skipwith, Skirpenbeck, South Milford, Slingsby, Kirbymisperton, Kirbymoorside, Hovingham, Huntington, Stamford Bridge, Stillingfleet, Thorganby, Sheriff Hutton all transcribed by Patricia Porter. Mark Gatenby did Egton Bridge in May 1999 and Sand Hutton in June 1999 and Carlton Minniott in March 1999 Chris Ireland did North Burton in January 1999 Mike Breary did Mirfield in May 1999 Pat Cook did Eastrington in March 1999 Jeaner44 did Cayton in November 1999 Well worth a browse for those with folk in the area especially now you know a name and date to chase for the postings Apologies to those who get cross postings of this but I think some of the newer folk may find the information useful. Cheers Caroline