Readers may like to look at this site, which lists quarterly sessions records including bastardy orders. http://www.eastriding.gov.uk/culture/heritage/QSearch.aspx Victor

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] writes >Brian > >Osbourne Street is where Hull Brewery used to have their brewery. It is >also where the >department store Edwin Davis was. The building is still there but empty >and will soon be >demolished. > >There are no houses in the street but my guess is they could have been >bombed in the >last war. > >That is how I have seen Osbourne Street. > >I have just been looking at a book called 'Forgotten Hull' by Graham >Wilkinson so I will >be scanning some pages from this book and will send these off list. it >could be that >Osbourne Street as it is now may not be the same one when your mother was born. I thought Osborne Street was off Fernsway and the Street where the Brewery was was Silvester Street off Bond Street but as its now called the Maltings mybe I am wrong TT -- Amax

Hi Graham, My 3 G Grandmother was Sarah W ANDERSON b c1799 Scarborough d 2 Apr 1881 5 Mill Yard Hull She married Peter Wright BLANSHARD Christened 17 Jul 1791 West Heslerton on 26 Dec 1825 @ Holy Trinity Hull Sarah's parents were Philip ANDERSON and Elizabeth Peter's parents were Peter BLANSHARD b c1761 and Mary LINSKILL b c1772 I have tabulated everyone here 1-Peter Wright BLANSHARD c. 17 Jul 1791, West Heslerton Yorkshire married Sarah W ANDERSON b. Cir 1799, Scarborough Yorks, d. 2 Apr 1881, 5 Mill Yard (New George St) Hull Yorks 2-Mary Ann BLANSHARD b. 24 Aug 1823, Hull Yorkshire 2-Joseph Templeman BLANSHARD b. 15 Mar 1826, Hull Yorkshire 2-Amelia BLANSHARD b. 21 Aug 1829, Hull Yorkshire married Unknown 3-Henry Brand BLANSHARD b. 11 May 1862, Hull Yorkshire married Alice HURDMAN 4-George Templeton BLANSHARD b. 1855, d. 1909 4-Herbert BLANSHARD b. 1884 4-Ernest BLANSHARD b. 1888, d. 1926 married Rose PEACH 4-Alice Maud BLANSHARD b. Jun 1890, Sculcoates Hull 4-Henry BLANSHARD b. 1893, d. 1980 married Annie WILKIN 4-Phillip Arthur BLANSHARD b. 1895, d. 1915 4-Walter BLANSHARD b. 1896, d. 1977 married Annie HARRISON 4-Harold BLANSHARD b. 1896, d. 1926 2-Philip Anderson BLANSHARD b. 2 Jul 1834, Hull Yorkshire 2-Jane Elizabeth BLANSHARD b. 1836, Hull Yorkshire married John WITHERS b. 1833, Newark Notts Ring any bells? Best wishes Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Metcalf" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 4:25 PM Subject: RE: [ERY] My Surname Interests > Hi Mike and any other interested parties, > > I have a connection to an ANDERSON family in Hull through my wife's line. > Herbert ANDERSON b 1880 at Myton married Mary Ethel MITCHELL in 1903. > > There is also a possible connection to the BLANSHARD family you mention. > > Graham > > >>From: "Mike" <[email protected]> >>Reply-To: [email protected] >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: [ERY] My Surname Interests >>Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 13:47:13 +0100 >> >>Hi Listers, >> >>Just wondering if anyone else is researching or has information regarding >>the following names please. >> >>ANDERSON - Scarborough - Hull >>BARKER >>BLANCHARD or BLANSHARD - Hull - West Heslerton >>BUTLER - Wauldby - Swanland >>CAWTHORN >>FOSTER - Frodingham Lincs - York - Hull >>KEMP - Hessle - Howden - Ousefleet - Swinefleet - Whitgift >>LAYCOCK - Swinefleet >>NICHOLSON - Wisbeach Cambs - Hull >>O'CONNOR - Hull - Colne Lancs >>PEART or PEAT - Swanland - North Ferriby >>WITHERS - Newark Notts - Hull >> >>All advice and/or information gratefuly received. >> >>Thanks and happy hunting >> >>Mike >> >> >>==== ENG-EAST-YORKS Mailing List ==== >>To post to the list address message to, >>[email protected] >> >>============================== >>Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >>ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >>http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >> > > > > ==== ENG-EAST-YORKS Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Admin send mail to , > [email protected] > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Hi Mike and any other interested parties, I have a connection to an ANDERSON family in Hull through my wife's line. Herbert ANDERSON b 1880 at Myton married Mary Ethel MITCHELL in 1903. There is also a possible connection to the BLANSHARD family you mention. Graham >From: "Mike" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [ERY] My Surname Interests >Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 13:47:13 +0100 > >Hi Listers, > >Just wondering if anyone else is researching or has information regarding >the following names please. > >ANDERSON - Scarborough - Hull >BARKER >BLANCHARD or BLANSHARD - Hull - West Heslerton >BUTLER - Wauldby - Swanland >CAWTHORN >FOSTER - Frodingham Lincs - York - Hull >KEMP - Hessle - Howden - Ousefleet - Swinefleet - Whitgift >LAYCOCK - Swinefleet >NICHOLSON - Wisbeach Cambs - Hull >O'CONNOR - Hull - Colne Lancs >PEART or PEAT - Swanland - North Ferriby >WITHERS - Newark Notts - Hull > >All advice and/or information gratefuly received. > >Thanks and happy hunting > >Mike > > >==== ENG-EAST-YORKS Mailing List ==== >To post to the list address message to, >[email protected] > >============================== >Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

Hi Listers, Just wondering if anyone else is researching or has information regarding the following names please. ANDERSON - Scarborough - Hull BARKER BLANCHARD or BLANSHARD - Hull - West Heslerton BUTLER - Wauldby - Swanland CAWTHORN FOSTER - Frodingham Lincs - York - Hull KEMP - Hessle - Howden - Ousefleet - Swinefleet - Whitgift LAYCOCK - Swinefleet NICHOLSON - Wisbeach Cambs - Hull O'CONNOR - Hull - Colne Lancs PEART or PEAT - Swanland - North Ferriby WITHERS - Newark Notts - Hull All advice and/or information gratefuly received. Thanks and happy hunting Mike

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HiRobi Many thanks for that- I am so glad we have long gone past that stage Kathy

Thank you Graham for the information. Harold Bradley -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/89 - Release Date: 9/2/05

You are correct. It was Bond Street I was thinking of. I have finally got round to looking at a map and Osbourne Street runs parallel with Carr Lane between Waterhouse Lane and Porter Street. Apologies for misleading every one. Victor On 3 Sep 2005 at 21:33, TT wrote: > In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] > writes > >Brian > > > >Osbourne Street is where Hull Brewery used to have their brewery. It is > >also where the > >department store Edwin Davis was. The building is still there but empty > >and will soon be > >demolished. > > > >There are no houses in the street but my guess is they could have been > >bombed in the > >last war. > > > >That is how I have seen Osbourne Street. > > > >I have just been looking at a book called 'Forgotten Hull' by Graham > >Wilkinson so I will > >be scanning some pages from this book and will send these off list. it > >could be that > >Osbourne Street as it is now may not be the same one when your mother was born. > > > I thought Osborne Street was off Fernsway and the Street where the > Brewery was was Silvester Street off Bond Street but as its now called > the Maltings mybe I am wrong > > TT > -- > Amax > > > > ==== ENG-EAST-YORKS Mailing List ==== > This list is only as good as you make it. Please Participate and help keep it interesting. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > >

Sorry, Yes Brandesburton is about 7 or 8 miles inland from Mappleton, which is on the east coast of Yorkshire. Graham >From: Harold Bradley <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [ERY] Mary Hepton >Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 12:46:51 -0600 > >I am trying to find any information on Mary Hepton. >The information which I have is that she was Christened on June 24, 1822 in >Brandesburton, >Yorkshire, England. >Her mother is shown as Elizabeth Hepton. > >Could someone look up this information for me (or tell me where I might >look) as I would like >to know if there is a father named on the Christening, and possibly a birth >date. > >Also, would Brandesburton, be near Mappleton? > >Thank you. > >Harold Glen Bradley, >Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada. > >Also researching, Bradley (Broadley). > > > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/88 - Release Date: 9/1/05 > > >==== ENG-EAST-YORKS Mailing List ==== >Try keep it on Topic not sure mail Administrator! > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Hi Harold, From the Brandsburton Parish Register: Baptisms 1822 Jun 24 Mary d Elizabeth Hepton ser by JB (John Bradshaw, rector) Sorry, no other details for Elizabeth Hepton, birth or marriage. Graham >From: Harold Bradley <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [ERY] Mary Hepton >Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 12:46:51 -0600 > >I am trying to find any information on Mary Hepton. >The information which I have is that she was Christened on June 24, 1822 in >Brandesburton, >Yorkshire, England. >Her mother is shown as Elizabeth Hepton. > >Could someone look up this information for me (or tell me where I might >look) as I would like >to know if there is a father named on the Christening, and possibly a birth >date. > >Also, would Brandesburton, be near Mappleton? > >Thank you. > >Harold Glen Bradley, >Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada. > >Also researching, Bradley (Broadley). > > > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/88 - Release Date: 9/1/05 > > >==== ENG-EAST-YORKS Mailing List ==== >Try keep it on Topic not sure mail Administrator! > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

I am researching the following names - BANKS : Stretton (Cheshire), Manchester (Lancs) BRADBURY : Lymm (Cheshire) BROWNBILL : St Helens (Lancs) CALLAGHAN : St Helens (Lancs), Ireland DANIELS : Bowdon (Cheshire) GABRIEL : St Helens (Lancs), Liverpool (Lancs), Dublin (Ireland) GARDNER : Dublin (Ireland) GRATWICH : Barlaston (Staffs) HIGHAM : Lymm (Cheshire), Leigh (Lancs) JOHNSON : Over Peover (Cheshire) JOHNSON : Barlaston (Staffs) JOHNS(T)ON : Wallasey (Cheshire), Birkenhead (Cheshire), Hull (East Riding), North Shields/Tynemouth (Northumberland), Ryton (Co. Durham) JONES : Whitchurch (Shrops) LEIGH : Lymm (Cheshire) MILLER : Lymm (Cheshire), Grappenhall (Cheshire) MOSTON/MOSSON : Lymm (Cheshire), Over Peover (Cheshire), Marthall (Cheshire), Snelson (Cheshire) MYCOCK : Barlaston (Staffs) NORBURY : Liverpool (Lancs) PERCIVAL : Lymm (Cheshire), Antrobus (Cheshire) RICHARDSON : Lymm (Cheshire), Prescot (Lancs) TABERN : St Helens (Lancs) THOMPSON : North Shields/Tynemouth (Northumberland) WILLIAMSON : Cheshire WINSTANLEY : Lymm (Cheshire) WOOTTON : Barlaston (Staffs), Moddershall (Staffs), Stone (Staffs) I would be pleased to hear from anyone with similar interests. Thanks Tim

Could SKS help lookup 1871 rawcliffe goole erea ann elizabeth newton age abt 13 born 1858 rawcliffe Thanke you Les

On the more general theme, it is important to remember that finding an ancestor described in certain medical terms may well not give you an accurate view of their condition. If I can give two examples from my experience of reading and talking to people some years ago when the whole issue of care in the community was being raised. 1. It was evidently not unknown for a woman to be committed to what was then called a mental handicap hospital because she had had an illegitimate child. 2. As late as the second half of last century parents who had given birth to " a mentally handicapped child" (not my words) were advised to put the child in hospital and have another. Many such children now live active fulfilled lives in the community. On the general lack of sensitivity two friend who had a Downs daughter were told on meeting the consultant: "You've got the original Cabbage Patch Doll." We have made progress! Robin Wainwright - Bristol UK >

I am trying to find any information on Mary Hepton. The information which I have is that she was Christened on June 24, 1822 in Brandesburton, Yorkshire, England. Her mother is shown as Elizabeth Hepton. Could someone look up this information for me (or tell me where I might look) as I would like to know if there is a father named on the Christening, and possibly a birth date. Also, would Brandesburton, be near Mappleton? Thank you. Harold Glen Bradley, Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada. Also researching, Bradley (Broadley). -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/88 - Release Date: 9/1/05

Chris My Uncle was born 8 Appleyards Buildings, Osborne Street. My Aunty was born 4 Appleyards Buildings, Osborne Street. My Mother was born 87 Osborne Street. Another Uncle was born 32 Saint James Place, English Street. Brian > > Do you have an exact address? The even numbers were on > the north side of the street. Behind the shops and > houses fronting the street there were also many courts > and yards with houses, especially on the north side. I > think that many of these were probably cleared before > WWII in slum clearances. There was allso bomb damage. > I have a photograph from c1940/1941 of the north side > taken from the corner of Waterhouse Lane showing > destruction of properties (probaably Nos. 2 - 10) and > the Methodist Chapel. Beyond this Nos. 12 and 14 are > still there, but beyond ths are what look like factory > buildings, which makes me think that some of the > housing had been cleared and redeveloped before WWII. > > Regards > > Chris Watson > > --- Brian Westwood <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I am trying to obtain information on or about > > Osbourne Street. Hull. Can anyone assist me. > > This is where my Mother was born in 1922. > > > > Brian > > Australia.

I have found Annie Newton born 1858 Rawcliffe she was living in the following household. Maria Newton Head 1836 Rawcliffe Annie Newton dau 1858 Rawcliffe William Newton son 1860 Hull Minnie Newton dau 1863 Hull Alice Newton dau 1866 Rawcliffe Vilot Newton dau 1869 Rawcliffe They were living in 18 Bell Lane Rawcliffe. Maria was listed as married but there was no husband. Jane

Michael~ Could there be a possibility that your HARRISON family be related to my ancestors? I have my G.G.Grandfather Benjamin HARRISON, b. abt 1896 (45 yrs. on the 1841 census for Barmby Moor). His wife's name is Ann (42 on 1841 census) children: John bapt. July 17, 1819 in Elvington Jane bapt. July 28, 1822 in Elvington Charles bapt. May 10, 1825 in Elvington Elizabeth bapt. Oct. 14, 1827 Elvington Benjamin bapt. Aug. 22, 1829 Elvington Robert bapt. June 10, 1832 Bossall Stephen bapt. July 26, 1835 Bossall I am now in the process of locating Benjamin HARRISON's Sr., Birth Record, and also the Marriage Record of Benjamin & Ann....possibly in the town where the first child was born - Elvington. Bill Harrison, Ontario, Canada [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: M. Harrison <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 7:25 AM Subject: [ERY] Harrison > I am researching the HARRISON family from the area around Catton, Wilberfoss,Kexby, Elvington, Wheldrake and would be pleased to hear from anyone with a similar interest. > > My family tree can be found at > > www.mjfh1.demon.co.uk/famtree.htm > > Michael Harrison > > > > > > > ==== ENG-EAST-YORKS Mailing List ==== > To post to the list address message to, > [email protected] > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

Brian, can I suggest that you take a look at the Hull local studies collection of photographs. They can be found at http://prismdata.hullcc.gov.uk/gallery/albums.php There is several photos there of Osborne Street, including one with no 87 which is noted as "No.87 is Mrs. Annie Sliw grocer". There is also one showing the 8 houses and 5 privies in Appleyards Building. Regards Keith D.

Hi Victor That was exactly my point and I agree with you entirely. I understand these terms were in official use in the first part of last century and the labelling of Joey Deacon was the result. It did not seem to occur to people that he might have none of these conditions. People must be looked at as individuals with abilities and needs and not responded to in a knee jerk way. These definitions are certainly not mine. When I worked in adult education the widespread policy was that if some one was mentally ill you provided drama and music, if they were mentally disabled then literacy, if they were old then crafts. I am with you entirely. Robin ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [ERY] Re: [YKS] A clue to finding missing rellies > On 2 Sep 2005 at 8:04, Robin Wainwright wrote: > > > Here are two definitions: > > > > Idiot > > A person of profound mental retardation having a mental age below three > > years and generally being unable to learn connected speech or guard > > against > > common dangers. > > > > Imbecile > > A person of moderate to severe mental retardation having a mental age of > > from three to seven years and generally being capable of some degree of > > communication and performance of simple tasks under supervision. > > This is a difficult area as these two definitions could apply to those who are simply deaf > with speech difficulties. These deaf people cannot in any way be described by either of > the two definitions. Unfortunately when people meet deaf people they think they have > no intelligence whatsoever. There are deaf people around who have managed to get a > good education and even obtain a PhD but are still treated as of low intelligence. > > Victor > > > ==== ENG-EAST-YORKS Mailing List ==== > Try keep it on Topic not sure mail Administrator! > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >