What could the other meaning of this term mean on a census besides the mother of the wife of the household. I would be very grateful for any info. Thank you Wendy

Simone, I can't help there - I haven't got anything else about Matthew BOTHAM. However I have checked the ERY 1851 Census index and haven't found Matthew or any other of your BOTHAMs there either ! Maybe the 1841 Census would be more helpful. However I see that there were certainly no BOTHAMs in Nafferton then (apart from those who changed to FAIRBOTHAM). David Simone Moore wrote: >David: > >There could be a connection since the 1778-1779 birthdate would be in the >correct range for Richard's father Matthew to have been born. From my >research, Richard was born in 1825. On the registry record it lists Matthew >Botham's profession as shepherd. Does this sound familiar in any way? > >Thanks! > >Simone >----- Original Message ----- >From: "David Hardy" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 2:09 AM >Subject: Re: [ERY] Sculcoates/Botham Family > > > > >>Hi Simone, >> >>My wife's family are FAIRBOTHAM from Hull and Sculcoates. However I >>have just discovered that the family name was >>originally BOTHAM in the 1760s. James and Ann BOTHAM had 10 children >>in Nafferton ERY ( to the north of >>Sculcoates) two of whom were called Matthew ( b 1778, 1779 ) !!! As >>far as I can see most of the children changed >>their names to FAIRBOTHAM and a Christopher FAIRBOTHAM moved to live >>in Sculcoates. >>I have been unable to trace Matthew any further. >>This is all probably a coincidence.......but... >> >>Best wishes, >> >>David Hardy >>Eindhoven -the Netherlands >> >> >> >> >>Simone Moore wrote: >> >> >> >>>Fellow Researchers: >>> >>>I am trying to find information regarding family by the surname of Botham >>> >>> >that lived in Sculcoates, East Riding of Yorkshire, during the 1840s. The >husband's name was Richard Botham and his wife was Frances (Fanny) Drakes. >They were married in 1841 in Lincoln, Lincolnshire. The marriage lists his >father as Matthew Botham and her father as Thomas Drakes. Richard's >residence is listed as Broadgate and I believe Fanny's was either Waterride >South, Watemide South, or Watwide South. It is difficult to make out. The >church is listed as Parish Church. Does anyone know what affiliation that >would have been? > > >>>In 1845 they had my great great grandfather George Botham. It is here >>> >>> >that I find the district of Sculcoates and the county of East Riding of >Yorkshire listed in his birth location info. In 1849 there was another son >born, Matthew Botham with the same birth location info. Their other >children's names were Richard, William, Mary, and I believe Thomas. > > >>>The family came to America in the 1860s and apparently spent some time in >>> >>> >Canada and eventually wound up in Iowa. There were probably some other >places that I don't know about. I know that George Botham lived in >Minnesota in the 1880s. After that I cannot find any trace of him. > > >>>I apologize for any misuse of the words county or district. I am >>> >>> >learning little by little about the layout of England. It makes it >difficult since some of these places like Sculcoates no longer exist. At >least, that's what the lady at the GRO told me. > > >>>BTW was Sculcoates close to another place by the name of Hull? >>> >>>Any information would be appreciated. >>> >>>Thank you all! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>==== ENG-EAST-YORKS Mailing List ==== >>>To unsubscribe from this list send the command "unsubscribe" to >>>[email protected] (if in mail mode) or >>>[email protected] (if in digest mode.) >>> >>>============================== >>>View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >>>marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >>>http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>==== ENG-EAST-YORKS Mailing List ==== >>To unsubscribe from this list send the command "unsubscribe" to >>[email protected] (if in mail mode) or >>[email protected] (if in digest mode.) >> >>============================== >>Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >>last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> >> >http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > >==== ENG-EAST-YORKS Mailing List ==== >Other Rootsweb Genealogy Lists >http://lists.rootsweb.com/ > >============================== >Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >New content added every business day. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > >

Mornin' Mary Lou, James Dickenson COUPLAND on 1871 census - aged 23, Lab. in Iron Wks born in Paull, ERY (a nextdoor parish to BURSTWICK!). He and Ellen living at 2, Emilys Place, Hull Holy Trinity. 1851 census - I only have the Index, but 'twould seem his father was John, 36, b. Ottringham, (another neighbouring parish) and his mother, Rebecca, 36, b. Paull. He had siblings, Ann E., 12, Robert, 10, Hannah, 8, James himself aged 5, Arthur, 2, all born Paull. It looks as though John was baptised at Ottringham on 7 May 1815 s/o Margaret. If Margaret was married and her husband absent I cannot help, but if she was single you have two choices - Margaret d/o Sarah, bap 5 Apr 1807 or Margaret d/o George bap 2 Oct 1796. I cannot find any of them in Ottringham MIs. There is a James and Ann buried at Paull, but their grave no. in the EYFHS MIs is incorrectly listed as '22' - - that is an IVESON grave. Hope that helps a bit, Cuz Peter

Dear List, Please do not offer "look ups" from the 1841 census index for Hull/Sculcoates without the authors permission. Ed.

Hi Les Saw your posting about the 1841 census index could I please have the refs for WHEATLEY's and COOK's My WHEATLEY's and COOK's are from this area I have them from 1861 through to 1901 Thanks in advance Sylvia (Wirral)

Hi Les Saw your posting about the 1841 census index could I please have the refs for WHEATLEY's and COOK's My WHEATLEY's and COOK's are from this area I have them from 1861 through to 1901 Thanks in advance Sylvia (Wirral)

Hi Simone, My wife's family are FAIRBOTHAM from Hull and Sculcoates. However I have just discovered that the family name was originally BOTHAM in the 1760s. James and Ann BOTHAM had 10 children in Nafferton ERY ( to the north of Sculcoates) two of whom were called Matthew ( b 1778, 1779 ) !!! As far as I can see most of the children changed their names to FAIRBOTHAM and a Christopher FAIRBOTHAM moved to live in Sculcoates. I have been unable to trace Matthew any further. This is all probably a coincidence.......but... Best wishes, David Hardy Eindhoven -the Netherlands Simone Moore wrote: >Fellow Researchers: > >I am trying to find information regarding family by the surname of Botham that lived in Sculcoates, East Riding of Yorkshire, during the 1840s. The husband's name was Richard Botham and his wife was Frances (Fanny) Drakes. They were married in 1841 in Lincoln, Lincolnshire. The marriage lists his father as Matthew Botham and her father as Thomas Drakes. Richard's residence is listed as Broadgate and I believe Fanny's was either Waterride South, Watemide South, or Watwide South. It is difficult to make out. The church is listed as Parish Church. Does anyone know what affiliation that would have been? > >In 1845 they had my great great grandfather George Botham. It is here that I find the district of Sculcoates and the county of East Riding of Yorkshire listed in his birth location info. In 1849 there was another son born, Matthew Botham with the same birth location info. Their other children's names were Richard, William, Mary, and I believe Thomas. > >The family came to America in the 1860s and apparently spent some time in Canada and eventually wound up in Iowa. There were probably some other places that I don't know about. I know that George Botham lived in Minnesota in the 1880s. After that I cannot find any trace of him. > >I apologize for any misuse of the words county or district. I am learning little by little about the layout of England. It makes it difficult since some of these places like Sculcoates no longer exist. At least, that's what the lady at the GRO told me. > >BTW was Sculcoates close to another place by the name of Hull? > >Any information would be appreciated. > >Thank you all! > > > > > >==== ENG-EAST-YORKS Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe from this list send the command "unsubscribe" to >[email protected] (if in mail mode) or >[email protected] (if in digest mode.) > >============================== >View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > >

I am trying to connect (if possible) different Coupland family members who married into my Jefferson family of Hull. I am now looking for James Dickinson COUPLAND who married Ellen Acey in 1870. He died in 1873. Could someone kindly find him in '71. As far as I know, they had two children in that short time, Mary Elizabeth and James William. I would like to know his date and place of birth. Thanks again, as always! Mary Lou on the canadian west coast in the pouring rain

Hello, Please read the paragraph at the bottom of this webpage: http://www.blaven.eclipse.co.uk/1841/index.html Ed. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Les" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 11:45 PM Subject: Re: [ERY] looking for Jane COUPLAND in 1851 > Hello I have the 1841 surname index for hull and sculcoates would you like > all the coupland's their are quite a few may be of some help to you > Regards Les > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary Lou Jones" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 5:58 PM > Subject: [ERY] looking for Jane COUPLAND in 1851 > > >>I am now looking for Jane Coupland/Coupeland/Copeland in 1851. >> She was born c1840 in Hull. >> I have found her in '61, widowed and living with her mother and >> step-father, William Ingham. >> Her mother's name was Rose Ann. >> I have found a marriage for Rose Ann Coupland and George Coupland in >> 1842, Hull. >> I would like to know other family members. >> >> Thanks for any help! >> >> >> ==== ENG-EAST-YORKS Mailing List ==== >> Try keep it on Topic not sure mail Administrator! >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >> >> >> > > ---------------------------------------- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > It has removed 85 spam emails to date. > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now! > > > > > > ==== ENG-EAST-YORKS Mailing List ==== > Other Rootsweb Genealogy Lists > http://lists.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Hello I have the 1841 surname index for hull and sculcoates would you like all the coupland's their are quite a few may be of some help to you Regards Les ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Lou Jones" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 5:58 PM Subject: [ERY] looking for Jane COUPLAND in 1851 >I am now looking for Jane Coupland/Coupeland/Copeland in 1851. > She was born c1840 in Hull. > I have found her in '61, widowed and living with her mother and > step-father, William Ingham. > Her mother's name was Rose Ann. > I have found a marriage for Rose Ann Coupland and George Coupland in 1842, > Hull. > I would like to know other family members. > > Thanks for any help! > > > ==== ENG-EAST-YORKS Mailing List ==== > Try keep it on Topic not sure mail Administrator! > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > ---------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 85 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now!

Hi once more! 1851 Census HO107/2362 Folio No.0399v All living in Hull Holy Trinity/St Mary Forename Surname Age Birthplace Page Order Mary Ann Copeland 8 Hull 111877 William J. Copeland 9m Hull 111878 Jane Copeland 11 Hull 111879 Rose Ann Copeland 32 Ryhill 111880 Regards, Don.

I believe that Sculcoates is about 20 miles east of Howden and is located in / near Hull. Below is a description of their locations on Genuki. You can see the two locations on a map at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/Misc/Maps/YKSmap.gif. I've hit a brick wall with my Hannah Drake (Stephenson). Looks like Hannah would be old enough to be an aunt (or great aunt?) of your Frances Drakes (I estimated Hannah's date of birth to be about 1783 - 1785). An old family history notes that 'Miss Drake' was the sibling of two renowned sailor brothers (Admirals). If you spot any other similarities, I'd be quite interested. Many thanks! Jane "SCULCOATES, a parish in the wapentake of Harthill, an ancient village, 1½ mile N. of Hull, on the west bank of the river Hull; and contained, not a century ago, only 100 inhabitants, but at present contains 10,449. The southern part of the parish adjoining the town of Hull, is now formed into extensive streets, since the formation of the dock in 1774, and cannot be distinguished by a stranger from the town of Hull, properly so called; it is, however, in the county of York, and the petty sessions are held in a hall erected a few years ago, Jonas Brown Esq. is the only resident magistrate, but some of the East Riding magistrates attend weekly. The church is in the old village, and was rebuilt in 1760; it is dedicated to St. Mary, the King is the patron, and the Rev. William Preston, vicar. Near the Sessions hall, and in the populous part of the parish, has this year been erected a new church, called Christ church, for which an act of parliament was obtained in 1814, vesting the presentation in the then subscribers of £100., and their survivors, when reduced to eight in number, who, with the vicar of Sculcoates, are the patrons. It is a very handsome structure, with a square tower of white brick and Roche Abbey stone, in the pointed style of the time of Henry IV. aera 1400. It will contain 1300 persons, 500 of whom are provided with free sittings. The whole cost was about £7000 part of which is not yet subscribed, the incumbent is the Rev. John King, M. A. who liberally advanced the sum necessary to complete the building, taking the chance of the sale of seats in return. On the 26th of September, 1822, this church received consecration from the Archbishop of York. Sculcoates can boast of a higher antiquity than Hull, being mentioned in Domesday book as one of the lordships of Ralph de Mortimer, who was one of the fortunate adventurers that accompanied the Conqueror from Normandy, and was lord of several manors hereabouts." "HOWDEN, a parish in the wapentake and liberty of Howdenshire; 9 miles from Snaith, 10 from Selby, and 21 from, York. The population amounts to 2080. Here is a very good market on Saturday. This town is of considerable antiquity, but it contains nothing remarkable except its church, formerly collegiate, and the remains of the ancient palace of the bishops of Durham." ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simone Moore" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 9:00 PM Subject: Re: [ERY] Sculcoates/Botham Family > Jane: > > It may be just an interesting coincidence but one of the witnesses listed > on > the marriage registry record is a Hannah. However, I cannot make out her > last name. The other witness was a John Willoughby. I believe. > Sometimes > the old writing is so hard to decipher. > > As far as the Drake surname, on the registry record it is listed as > Drakes. > From my understanding the two names often get mixed up in the records. > > Where in relation to Sculcoates is Howden? > > Thanks! > > Simone > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jane Adams" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 4:37 PM > Subject: Re: [ERY] Sculcoates/Botham Family > > >> I have a Hannah DRAKE (no 's') that married a Robert STEPHENSON in >> Howden, >> Yorkshire on Oct 3, 1803. Do you think there is a connection? >> >> Jane >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Simone Moore" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 6:56 PM >> Subject: [ERY] Sculcoates/Botham Family >> >> >> > Fellow Researchers: >> > >> > I am trying to find information regarding family by the surname of > Botham >> > that lived in Sculcoates, East Riding of Yorkshire, during the 1840s. > The >> > husband's name was Richard Botham and his wife was Frances (Fanny) > Drakes. >> > They were married in 1841 in Lincoln, Lincolnshire. The marriage lists >> > his father as Matthew Botham and her father as Thomas Drakes. >> > Richard's >> > residence is listed as Broadgate and I believe Fanny's was either >> > Waterride South, Watemide South, or Watwide South. It is difficult to >> > make out. The church is listed as Parish Church. Does anyone know >> > what >> > affiliation that would have been? >> > >> > In 1845 they had my great great grandfather George Botham. It is here >> > that I find the district of Sculcoates and the county of East Riding of >> > Yorkshire listed in his birth location info. In 1849 there was another >> > son born, Matthew Botham with the same birth location info. Their >> > other >> > children's names were Richard, William, Mary, and I believe Thomas. >> > >> > The family came to America in the 1860s and apparently spent some time > in >> > Canada and eventually wound up in Iowa. There were probably some other >> > places that I don't know about. I know that George Botham lived in >> > Minnesota in the 1880s. After that I cannot find any trace of him. >> > >> > I apologize for any misuse of the words county or district. I am > learning >> > little by little about the layout of England. It makes it difficult > since >> > some of these places like Sculcoates no longer exist. At least, that's >> > what the lady at the GRO told me. >> > >> > BTW was Sculcoates close to another place by the name of Hull? >> > >> > Any information would be appreciated. >> > >> > Thank you all! >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ==== ENG-EAST-YORKS Mailing List ==== >> > To unsubscribe from this list send the command "unsubscribe" to >> > [email protected] (if in mail mode) or >> > [email protected] (if in digest mode.) >> > >> > ============================== >> > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >> > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >> > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >> > >> > >> >> >> >> ==== ENG-EAST-YORKS Mailing List ==== >> Try keep it on Topic not sure mail Administrator! >> >> ============================== >> Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >> ancestors, but entire generations. 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Hi Mary Lou again, Per 1851 census, Rose Anne born Ryhill 1819. Ryhill is a township in Burstwick, a Rosanne was baptised at Skeckling with Burstwick on 18 Jan 1819 - dau. of John and Nancy COUPLAND. So did she marry another COUPLAND? Peter

I have a Hannah DRAKE (no 's') that married a Robert STEPHENSON in Howden, Yorkshire on Oct 3, 1803. Do you think there is a connection? Jane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simone Moore" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 6:56 PM Subject: [ERY] Sculcoates/Botham Family > Fellow Researchers: > > I am trying to find information regarding family by the surname of Botham > that lived in Sculcoates, East Riding of Yorkshire, during the 1840s. The > husband's name was Richard Botham and his wife was Frances (Fanny) Drakes. > They were married in 1841 in Lincoln, Lincolnshire. The marriage lists > his father as Matthew Botham and her father as Thomas Drakes. Richard's > residence is listed as Broadgate and I believe Fanny's was either > Waterride South, Watemide South, or Watwide South. It is difficult to > make out. The church is listed as Parish Church. Does anyone know what > affiliation that would have been? > > In 1845 they had my great great grandfather George Botham. It is here > that I find the district of Sculcoates and the county of East Riding of > Yorkshire listed in his birth location info. In 1849 there was another > son born, Matthew Botham with the same birth location info. Their other > children's names were Richard, William, Mary, and I believe Thomas. > > The family came to America in the 1860s and apparently spent some time in > Canada and eventually wound up in Iowa. There were probably some other > places that I don't know about. I know that George Botham lived in > Minnesota in the 1880s. After that I cannot find any trace of him. > > I apologize for any misuse of the words county or district. I am learning > little by little about the layout of England. It makes it difficult since > some of these places like Sculcoates no longer exist. At least, that's > what the lady at the GRO told me. > > BTW was Sculcoates close to another place by the name of Hull? > > Any information would be appreciated. > > Thank you all! > > > > > > ==== ENG-EAST-YORKS Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list send the command "unsubscribe" to > [email protected] (if in mail mode) or > [email protected] (if in digest mode.) > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >

Hi Simone, Go here: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ERY/Sculcoates/index.html and you'll get all the info about Sculcoates you may want. Unfortunately none of my Botham's were from Sculcoates. Genuki has an amazing lot of info about all of Yorkshire, you should check it out. Regards, Linda > -----Original Message----- > From: Simone Moore [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 6:56 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ERY] Sculcoates/Botham Family > > Fellow Researchers: > > I am trying to find information regarding family by the surname of Botham that lived in > Sculcoates, East Riding of Yorkshire, during the 1840s. The husband's name was Richard > Botham and his wife was Frances (Fanny) Drakes. They were married in 1841 in Lincoln, > Lincolnshire. The marriage lists his father as Matthew Botham and her father as Thomas > Drakes. Richard's residence is listed as Broadgate and I believe Fanny's was either Waterride > South, Watemide South, or Watwide South. It is difficult to make out. The church is listed as > Parish Church. Does anyone know what affiliation that would have been? > > In 1845 they had my great great grandfather George Botham. It is here that I find the district > of Sculcoates and the county of East Riding of Yorkshire listed in his birth location info. In > 1849 there was another son born, Matthew Botham with the same birth location info. Their > other children's names were Richard, William, Mary, and I believe Thomas. > > The family came to America in the 1860s and apparently spent some time in Canada and > eventually wound up in Iowa. There were probably some other places that I don't know > about. I know that George Botham lived in Minnesota in the 1880s. After that I cannot find > any trace of him. > > I apologize for any misuse of the words county or district. I am learning little by little about > the layout of England. It makes it difficult since some of these places like Sculcoates no > longer exist. At least, that's what the lady at the GRO told me. > > > BTW was Sculcoates close to another place by the name of Hull? > > Any information would be appreciated. > > Thank you all! > > > > > > ==== ENG-EAST-YORKS Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list send the command "unsubscribe" to > [email protected] (if in mail mode) or > [email protected] (if in digest mode.) > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

Mornin' Mary Lou, I bet you guessed! I have some COUPLANDs, descendants of another of Capt. David FEWSON's daughters. I am going to see whether I can trace them further. At the moment I don't have much on them, but will try to extend the family. Main point - they lived in Patrington, and Keyingham* which are not far from Ryhill where, according to 1851 census, Rose Anne was born. *They also had Hull connections. I have found Jane COUPLAND bap. 1 May 1839 at Patrington, dau. of Rosehannah COUPLAND. Also a Mary Ann COUPLAND born 30 Sep 1842, Hull, dau. of John COUPLAND ---- she married a Solomon MILLSAP on 10 Apr 1860 in Creemore, Simcoe County, ONT. Died 10 Apr 1860 There is a William, b.1850, Hull on the 1881, married with family, a Farm Bailiff at Anlaby, ERY Peter

Many thanks to Don (again), Peter and Les who responded to my plea for help. Rose Ann Coupland married George Coupland in 1842. Now I just have to connect the Couplands! Jane was born pre marriage, so I have yet to figure out if she is George's daughter or someone else's. Just so you know, Peter, this is the Jane Coupland who married John Thompson Hurdsman after Elizabeth Hudson Jefferson died. Thanks again Mary Lou

I am now looking for Jane Coupland/Coupeland/Copeland in 1851. She was born c1840 in Hull. I have found her in '61, widowed and living with her mother and step-father, William Ingham. Her mother's name was Rose Ann. I have found a marriage for Rose Ann Coupland and George Coupland in 1842, Hull. I would like to know other family members. Thanks for any help!

David: There could be a connection since the 1778-1779 birthdate would be in the correct range for Richard's father Matthew to have been born. From my research, Richard was born in 1825. On the registry record it lists Matthew Botham's profession as shepherd. Does this sound familiar in any way? Thanks! Simone ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Hardy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 2:09 AM Subject: Re: [ERY] Sculcoates/Botham Family > Hi Simone, > > My wife's family are FAIRBOTHAM from Hull and Sculcoates. However I > have just discovered that the family name was > originally BOTHAM in the 1760s. James and Ann BOTHAM had 10 children > in Nafferton ERY ( to the north of > Sculcoates) two of whom were called Matthew ( b 1778, 1779 ) !!! As > far as I can see most of the children changed > their names to FAIRBOTHAM and a Christopher FAIRBOTHAM moved to live > in Sculcoates. > I have been unable to trace Matthew any further. > This is all probably a coincidence.......but... > > Best wishes, > > David Hardy > Eindhoven -the Netherlands > > > > > Simone Moore wrote: > > >Fellow Researchers: > > > >I am trying to find information regarding family by the surname of Botham that lived in Sculcoates, East Riding of Yorkshire, during the 1840s. The husband's name was Richard Botham and his wife was Frances (Fanny) Drakes. They were married in 1841 in Lincoln, Lincolnshire. The marriage lists his father as Matthew Botham and her father as Thomas Drakes. Richard's residence is listed as Broadgate and I believe Fanny's was either Waterride South, Watemide South, or Watwide South. It is difficult to make out. The church is listed as Parish Church. Does anyone know what affiliation that would have been? > > > >In 1845 they had my great great grandfather George Botham. It is here that I find the district of Sculcoates and the county of East Riding of Yorkshire listed in his birth location info. In 1849 there was another son born, Matthew Botham with the same birth location info. Their other children's names were Richard, William, Mary, and I believe Thomas. > > > >The family came to America in the 1860s and apparently spent some time in Canada and eventually wound up in Iowa. There were probably some other places that I don't know about. I know that George Botham lived in Minnesota in the 1880s. After that I cannot find any trace of him. > > > >I apologize for any misuse of the words county or district. I am learning little by little about the layout of England. It makes it difficult since some of these places like Sculcoates no longer exist. At least, that's what the lady at the GRO told me. > > > >BTW was Sculcoates close to another place by the name of Hull? > > > >Any information would be appreciated. > > > >Thank you all! > > > > > > > > > > > >==== ENG-EAST-YORKS Mailing List ==== > >To unsubscribe from this list send the command "unsubscribe" to > >[email protected] (if in mail mode) or > >[email protected] (if in digest mode.) > > > >============================== > >View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > >marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > >http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > ==== ENG-EAST-YORKS Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list send the command "unsubscribe" to > [email protected] (if in mail mode) or > [email protected] (if in digest mode.) > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Jane: It may be just an interesting coincidence but one of the witnesses listed on the marriage registry record is a Hannah. However, I cannot make out her last name. The other witness was a John Willoughby. I believe. Sometimes the old writing is so hard to decipher. As far as the Drake surname, on the registry record it is listed as Drakes. From my understanding the two names often get mixed up in the records. Where in relation to Sculcoates is Howden? Thanks! Simone ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Adams" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [ERY] Sculcoates/Botham Family > I have a Hannah DRAKE (no 's') that married a Robert STEPHENSON in Howden, > Yorkshire on Oct 3, 1803. Do you think there is a connection? > > Jane > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Simone Moore" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 6:56 PM > Subject: [ERY] Sculcoates/Botham Family > > > > Fellow Researchers: > > > > I am trying to find information regarding family by the surname of Botham > > that lived in Sculcoates, East Riding of Yorkshire, during the 1840s. The > > husband's name was Richard Botham and his wife was Frances (Fanny) Drakes. > > They were married in 1841 in Lincoln, Lincolnshire. The marriage lists > > his father as Matthew Botham and her father as Thomas Drakes. Richard's > > residence is listed as Broadgate and I believe Fanny's was either > > Waterride South, Watemide South, or Watwide South. It is difficult to > > make out. The church is listed as Parish Church. Does anyone know what > > affiliation that would have been? > > > > In 1845 they had my great great grandfather George Botham. It is here > > that I find the district of Sculcoates and the county of East Riding of > > Yorkshire listed in his birth location info. In 1849 there was another > > son born, Matthew Botham with the same birth location info. Their other > > children's names were Richard, William, Mary, and I believe Thomas. > > > > The family came to America in the 1860s and apparently spent some time in > > Canada and eventually wound up in Iowa. There were probably some other > > places that I don't know about. I know that George Botham lived in > > Minnesota in the 1880s. After that I cannot find any trace of him. > > > > I apologize for any misuse of the words county or district. I am learning > > little by little about the layout of England. It makes it difficult since > > some of these places like Sculcoates no longer exist. At least, that's > > what the lady at the GRO told me. > > > > BTW was Sculcoates close to another place by the name of Hull? > > > > Any information would be appreciated. > > > > Thank you all! > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ENG-EAST-YORKS Mailing List ==== > > To unsubscribe from this list send the command "unsubscribe" to > > [email protected] (if in mail mode) or > > [email protected] (if in digest mode.) > > > > ============================== > > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > ==== ENG-EAST-YORKS Mailing List ==== > Try keep it on Topic not sure mail Administrator! > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >