Hi Trish, In the West Sculcoates 1851, HO 107/2361 fol 379v - 725v Thomas HALL (42) Hull 369v Ann Hall (40) 369v Betsey Ann Hall (14) 369v Emaline Hall (1) Hull 369 v Lavinia Hall (12) Hull 369v Mary Elizabeth Hall (4) Hull 369v Robert Levett Hall (10) Hull 369v Sarah Hall (7) Hull 369v William Hall (18) 369v Robert Hall (40) 593v Edward Hall (12) 593v Elizabeth Hall (41) Wadworth 593v Elizabeth Darton Hall (3) Hull 593v Robert Proudley Hall (14) Hull 593v William Jennison Hall (17) 593v No John of the 'right' age in West Sculcoates. In the East Sculcoates 1851, HO 107/2361 fol 4v - 363v Thomas HALL (50) Hull 102v Elizabeth Hall (49) Hull 102v Margaret Hall (20) Wakefield 102v William Hall (18) Hull 102 v John Hall (59) Hull 215v Kexia Hall (63) Binbrook 215v No Robert of the 'right' age in East Sculcoates. I don't know how much of it helped, but no-one seems to fit in Holy Trinity. Cheers Gillie Lomax.

Good Morning from a storm tossed Cornwall. Is there anyone out there with any connections to the above family of Farmers, Millers and Film Magnates. Please contact me if you think you may have a connection. Some of their later related families are: WREGHIT of Patrington PARROTT of Patrington STEPHENSON of Routh VOASE of Skirlaugh Especially anyone who can help prove that Ann HOPPER, b.1777 who married John WREGHIT in Patrington ca.1800 was the daughter of William HOPPER, Miller. Regards to all, Peter Fewson

Hi List Have just nicely taken up my husbands ancestry again and would like to post the names I am researching. VINSON - Selby, Hull, Grimsby WILSON - Hull, Batley Kind regards Judith Kettlewell

Hello Bob, Alice may have been baptised in Holy Trinity, Hull for any number of reasons, but if she was living in Kirk Ella at the time of her marriage she would be 'of Kirk Ella'. I think the minimum time necessary to be thought 'of somewhere' was only six weeks. Also, may I add, there are hundreds of thousands of people not included on the IGI - just because you cannot find a person doesn't mean they didn't exist. Peter

John PEARSON of Hull, Corn Factor aged 24, married Alice JOHNSON of Kirkella, aged 21, on 3rd Dec 1801 at Hull, Holy Trinity. Their first child I have found is Sarah Elizabeth, bapt 9 March 1806 at Hull H-T. Were there any others before this ? It seems quite a gap. Their son John was born about 1807 (from the date of his apprenticeship agreement, 1820) but I cannot identify his bapt. The only likely Alice JOHNSON I have found was bapt. 30 April 1777 at Hull H-T. If this is the right one why was she 'of Kirkella' ?. Any help would be appreciated. Bob.

Hi Ed Email of list at les'codend.karoo.co.uk will talk later Les ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edmund" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 12:56 PM Subject: [ERY] 1841 index > Les, > > Where did you acquire your copy of the 1841 census index for > Hull/Sculcoates please? Your name or email doesn't look familiar to me. > > Ed. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Les" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 11:45 PM > Subject: Re: [ERY] looking for Jane COUPLAND in 1851 > > >> Hello I have the 1841 surname index for hull and sculcoates would you >> like >> all the coupland's their are quite a few may be of some help to you >> Regards Les > > > ==== ENG-EAST-YORKS Mailing List ==== > Try keep it on Topic not sure mail Administrator! > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > > > ---------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 91 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now!

Mary Lou Jones wrote: > I am now looking for James ACEY in 1851. > He was born 1817 in Halsham, Yorkshire. > He should have a wife, Mary and a daughter, Ellen. > > Thanks for any help! > Mary Lou in a canadian rain forest > > > ==== ENG-EAST-YORKS Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list send the command "unsubscribe" to > [email protected] (if in mail mode) or > [email protected] (if in digest mode.) > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. > Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > Hi Mary Lou, Forgot to mention before, there was no James Acey b. Halsham on the index for 1851` The image I sent is of the only James Acy b. Halsham, but no wife and child. There. Sorry about that. June

It depends on who is the head of the househild. If a woman is the Head then 'mother in law' will be the mother of her husband (probably deceased or absent in such a case). Paul Kirby [email protected] wrote: >What could the other meaning of this term mean on a census besides the >mother of the wife of the household. I would be very grateful for any info. Thank >you >Wendy > > >

Les, Where did you acquire your copy of the 1841 census index for Hull/Sculcoates please? Your name or email doesn't look familiar to me. Ed. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Les" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 11:45 PM Subject: Re: [ERY] looking for Jane COUPLAND in 1851 > Hello I have the 1841 surname index for hull and sculcoates would you like > all the coupland's their are quite a few may be of some help to you > Regards Les

OOPs Forgot to add this bit Dec Quarter 1850 Ellen Acey Skirlaugh XXII 717 Chris Roderick

1861 Shows him as widower ACEY, James Head Widower M 44 Agricultural Labourer Halsham Yorkshire ACEY, Ellen Daughter F 10 Lelley Yorkshire CHURCH, Susannah Wetherill Servant Married F 50 House Keeper East Newton Yorkshire RG number: RG09 Piece: 3600 Folio: 80 Page: 7 Registration District: Patrington Sub District: 1 Patrington Enumeration District: 21 C Ecclesiastical District: Parish: Burton Pidsea City/Municipal Borough: Address: Church Lane, Burton Pidsea Found a death for Mary Acey 1850 Deaths Dec 1850 ACEY Mary Skirlaugh 22 495

A really big thank you to all who replied to my question. I hope i have sent personal thank yous, but if not thanks. I was also looking at the fact that she could have been a stepmother, but as far as I know the father had died and so couldn't have remarried. I am now looking into the wife who may have been married before but no luck as yet. If anyone is interested in what I'm looking at it is the Millington family on the 1881 census RG11/4771 folio 102 page 3. Thanks yet again Wendy

Thanks for your reply. The head of the house was a man and I was working on the stepmother theory, but as yet the mane doesn't fit. Wendy

Thanks very much for the reply. I was working on step mother but the name doesn't fit as yet. Wendy

Good morning and a big thank-you to June and Christine who helped with my James ACEY search! You have both helped me before and it is really appreciated. Best wishes Mary Lou

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I would think, in this case the same as we use the term today. Whereas son in law and daughter in law can mean son by law, daughter by law---these are actually step children to the head of household. Hope that helps. Sheila ----- > What could the other meaning of this term mean on a census besides the > mother of the wife of the household. I would be very grateful for any > info. Thank > you > Wendy > > >

I am now looking for James ACEY in 1851. He was born 1817 in Halsham, Yorkshire. He should have a wife, Mary and a daughter, Ellen. Thanks for any help! Mary Lou in a canadian rain forest

I read this email with some fascination...I was trying to figure out the relationship of an Apprentice who was bound to a great uncle of mine in the 1700's. I realized that he was not old enough to be a son in Law. It mentioned my uncle's name as father in law to his apprentice. A little while later I came across this informative entry in a book about the Hallamshire Cutlers and their apprentices as follows... 'In many cases the person apprenticing a boy or paying a premium with him is styled his Father in Law'... it goes on to say that... 'in this context this evidently meant 'Step Father', for it will invariably be found used in connection with an apprentice who's father had died'...an interesting interpretation of the term Father in Law. Having said this, I don't think it applied into the 19th Century but I could be wrong...I wondered if Wendy had some problem in assigning the lady on the census to the strict definition of 'Mother in Law' which is usually used?... If anyone wants to see the entry I referred to re the above, it appears in R.E. Leader's book on p.46. The Title of the book is 'History of the Sheffield Cutler's Co'.Printed in 1905.Kindest regards, Josephine. Onatario, Canada. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 1:18 PM Subject: [ERY] Mother in law? > What could the other meaning of this term mean on a census besides the > mother of the wife of the household. I would be very grateful for any info. Thank > you > Wendy > > > ==== ENG-EAST-YORKS Mailing List ==== > This list is only as good as you make it. Please Participate and help keep it interesting. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Could SKS help lookup leeds 1871 thomas raby age abt 45 born selby Occ painter Thank you in advance Les