Can anyone please help us out with trade directories ? We are researching George Mason 5 Ber Street Norwich Norfolk who was a basketmaker in 1892 and till his death in 1915 and am just starting to realise that there are such these as trade directories that may contain more references.WHow do they function and can i find an internet access?? Thank you for your help PAMELA CORKE .. New brunswick Canada

Hi Everyone Not yet found the interpretation of the female Christian name of "Thormoran" , now another female name, "Thomasin", as now surfaced. Anyone got any ideas on its meaning or origins regards Shona

Hello Norfolk! I am researching my family and would appreciate some assistance with the following family lines : CORKE, COLMAN AND MASON JOHN CORKE ------------- head married age 42 (1881-42=1839+- birth year) birthplace Leicester, Leicester occ. Div. off. Excise ery last residence 43 Havelock Street Great Yarmouth with Mary died April 12 1916 buried in Lowestoft Kirkley Cemet WIFE :Mary E. corke age 42 (1881-42=1839 birth year) Hulme, Lancs. CHILDREN :Florence RHODA Corke age 17 (1881-17=1864birth year) Kirkliston West Lothian Scotland john M_________Corke birth year 1865+- bishop Nympton DEVON Alice M_________ birth year 1866+- bishop Nympton DEVON Charles g________ corke birth year 1867+- bishop Nympton DEVON. Francis L. corke (m) 1872+- birth year. Norwich Norfolk *** especially interested in info re: ALICE MAWLEY and FLORENCE RHODA and JOHN possibly MAWBY COLMAN/ CORKE ... mustard connections or so the story goes.. Rebekah / Rebecca Colman married George Mason and they had a shop on BER Street where they sold /made baskets. Their children George and Alice Rebecca Mason born 1867 ( married Charles George Corke 1892 )both emigrated in early teens of 1900 to Stratford Canada George Mason died in Norwich 1910-1917 and Rebekah emigrated to Stratford Ont. Canada. They are my great great grandparents. Am anxious to see what type of response I get as I have been doing this tree for 40 years! HELP! Pamela Corke

Dear Friends, What an incredible response! The ink was hardly dry on the letter before your answers flooded in! Consensus seems to be Wickhambrook or Hinchingbrooke. I have sent a letter to my correspondent with your suggestions. Thank you all for your kindness in helping! Iain, in the disease hot-spot of Cumbria, UK.

Hello Friends! Can anyone help? Where or what is "HICKENBROOK"? Is it a place, a farm, the name of a house? It has been mentioned by a lady from Texas that a putative connection might exist to the WRIGHT family in which I am interested. A Walter Kemp Wright was married in the 1870s from 'that area'. The wife's name might have been CLIFFE. I appreciate that this information is hazy, to say the least, but if there is any chance of establishing the whereabouts of this name, it could solve a problem! Regards, Iain, in a smoky and wet Cumbria, UK. - the pyres still burn.

Since Easter will soon be upon us and I will be away for a while, I will post entries for surnames beginning with B,C,D and E over the next day or so. The database is accessible from http://pws.prserv.net/Kings.Lynn where you should select the 'What's new' button from the navigation bar. It should be straightforward after that. I welcome your feedback and am happy to consider suggestions for postings upon my return after Easter. Good luck with your searches. Rosemary Rodliffe NFHS 5151

The Return of Owners of Land in Norfolk includes many persons outside the county. The Norfolk List has expressed sufficient interest to encourage me to make my transcription available as an on-line searchable database. Each week or so I will add the entries for surnames beginning with one initial. The database is accessible from http://pws.prserv.net/Kings.Lynn where you should select the 'What's new' button from the navigation bar. It should be straightforward after that. I welcome your feedback on the suitability of the search for your purposes. Good luck with your searches. Rosemary Rodliffe NFHS 5151

Hi List For those who have asked what is the BMD Index. Well it is an internet project to transcribe the GRO Index of Birth, Marriage, Deaths for the UK. The same one thats on microfiches at libraries etc. Then make it available the internet. Volunteers are doing the transcribing. It is at http://freebmb.rootsweb.com If your relations are not on it now it is worth checking every so often as it is being added to each week Hope this helps Jayne

Hi i travelled to Yorkshire on Monday, hoping to find some relatives graves...instead, i found gravestones in one church used as a platform for the church outside water-tank.!! they are lost to us forever now. How can the church condone such treatment of headstones? I was very shocked, and saddened. bren --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.237 / Virus Database: 115 - Release Date: 07/03/01

> Hi Josie > > Its a tragedy about the graves. At the moment after 100 yrs the land used as > a burial site can be redeveloped. I have experience of gravestones being > broken up and used to build a new church, they didn't seek permission from > relatives because the graves were a couple of hundred years old. > > Sacrilege! > > Lucille If anyone has had the experience of having to arrange a funeral, buy a burial plot, keep the certificates of burial etc., they should read the rules and regulations which come with the documents. There is usually a right to burial clause which gives the time limit in which the purchaser has any rights over the plot. 100 years is unusally generous, 70 years is more usual, but some are shorter timespans. My parents are buried separately, because they died 20 years apart and distance made it impractical for them to be buried together. I have the right to be buried in either grave according to the documents, but any family rights over the plot will run out during their grandchildren's lifetime. The cemetary officers can only deal with the legal owner of the "rights" of the plot, at their last known address. Mary George

Hi Everyone The female Christian name of, "Thormoran", is proving elusive to identify. Has anyone out there come across it? where does it originate? It's likely meaning?. I have tried numerous names sites without success Regards Shona Searching: CRESSEY FULLER RICHES Lincolnshire/Norfolk

Hi all I seemed to unearthed some strong emotions when I questioned whether it would be easier to have records on cds that fiche. For this I am sorry. The reason why questioned it was that I am very enthusiatic about researching my family trees but because of some phyical disabilities find it hard to get myself over to the library to look at the BMD indexes and even harder to handle the fiche. Yesterday I used the free BMD index online and found six relations I hope people understand why I was questioning it Yours Jayne

Hi Josie Its a tragedy about the graves. At the moment after 100 yrs the land used as a burial site can be redeveloped. I have experience of gravestones being broken up and used to build a new church, they didn't seek permission from relatives because the graves were a couple of hundred years old. Sacrilege! Lucille

Hello everyone, I would just like to take this opportunity to say that the new Docking area list is up and running and covers the following villages in Norfolk:- Docking Bircham Newton Bircham Tofts Bircham Magna Burnham (all villages) North and South Creake Holme next to sea Dersingham Snettisham Ingoldisthorpe Fring Ringstead Stanhoe Syderstone Heacham Hunstanton Sedgeford Thornham Barmer East Rudham If you have any researching to do within these villages why don't you join. The more people who subscribe the bigger the pool of knowledge. If interested e-mail John Kent on mailto:majordomo@andover2000.net then type only the following in the body of the message subscribe docking_norfolk@andover2000.net You will receive an automatic welcome message. When you send a message to the list send it via docking_norfolk@andover2000.net hope to hear from you soon, Michael Bird List Administrator mailto:w.bird@ntlworld.com ______________________________ ______________________________ ______________________________

Hello list Looking for information on David DONCASTER b.1793 at Coates, Cambs. I have several of his descendants born March, Cambridgeshire, on file and other DONCASTERs who could be connected. Davids daughter Sarah DONCASTER b.1826 m.Benjamin SMART b.1824 Welney. Joseph DONCASTER born abt.1823 in England, possibly the son of David, next seen in 1865 at Minnesota Falls, Yellow Medicine County, Minnesota. George DONCASTER born abt. 1800 in England died Quebec,Canada 1865 possibly David's brother. Would be very pleased to hear from anyone with these or any DONCASTERs in their families. Regards Ashley Lister Interests -- LISTER, SMART, SEE, DONCASTER, GOWLER throughout East Anglia

-----Original Message----- From: Katy <katy@cwcom.net> To: ESSEX-UK-L@rootsweb.com <ESSEX-UK-L@rootsweb.com> Date: 01 April 2001 18:03 Subject: GRAVES IN THE UK Hi listers and Josi Kemper Teletex - I missed this message but would refer you all to my website www.woodgrange.freehosting.net. I have spent the last year writing to MP's and the Home Office re my greatgrand father (my father and his aunt - direct relatives) are both still alive and three other members of our family. This MUST BE STOPPED before it happens to other families. I have a petition underway re my family graves and if you wish to add you name either forward re the above site or to Katy@cwcom.net . Ask your family and friends to support this. Some of the graves at Woodgrange Park Cemetery were less than 30 years old. Many were wargraves, one a Benjamin Hurley (probably a member of my family) a war hero from the first world war. If youfail to maintain a private grave in a Private Cemetery they have the right after a year and a day to take away the headstone and reburial. My family are lying in a road with 14,000 plus other remains with no burial service - just unwanted rubbish. I would! ask you to forward to any interested parties. ACT now beore it is too late. Regards and thank you. Katie

For anyone from or who knows Lancashire! On the 1881 census CD, I have found 4 of my Burwell PALMER families all living at the same address: Reedsholme Buildings, Higher Booths, Lancashire ref: RG11/Piece 4133/Folio 37/Pgs 19 & 23 William, Henry & Louis are brothers; their parents are William & Maria PALMER from Burwell. It looks like they moved en masse to Lancashire to find work, part. as their youngest child, Alfred Edward was born there. Stephen is a cousin of William, Henry & Louis; they are all grandsons of my Gt Gt Gt Grandparents, Stephen PALMER of Burwell and Maria da SILVA of Portugal. So is anyone else researching PALMERS? And where is Higher Booths? I cannot find it in my AA Road Atlas. Would it be near Oldham, as I believe I may have PALMER connections there also! Regards, Ann McClean in Llanmerewig, Mid-Wales, U.K. ann.mcclean@cawthorn.co.uk Bobbin Lacemaking Pages http://www.ann-mcclean.mid-wales.net ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ CAWTHORN, SCOTT & Da SILVA/PALMER Family History Pages: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cawthorn/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ CFHS 2726

I thought everyone would be interested in this bit of info, read on: Best Wishes Bernie Bernard Ratcliffe Bernie@Modbury.freeserve.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: Josef Kemper <J.Kemper@btinternet.com> To: <ESSEX-UK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 5:12 PM Subject: GRAVES IN UK > Hi Listers > > Just read this on Teletext. > > "Britain should re-use old graves to create more space in it's overcrowded cemetaries, an MPs' committee has said. > The Environment, Transport & Regional Affairs Committee suggests that remains are exhumed after a set period and re-interred deeper in the same grave. It is calling on Ministers to pass laws to re-use graves as soon as possible" > > It would be interesting to know what their idea of a "set period" is and if 'they' would be willing to have their own relatives dug up in this outrageous project. I also wonder just how many would be re-interred in a deeper grave or just abandoned on a scrap heap? > > Do we try to stop it before it's too late? > > Josi Kemper > >

Jayne, Several points to be kept in mind. The people producing the information that you require are all volunteers and much of the information has been transcribed over many years and is in paper form. It has been and will be for sometime much easier to fiche than store on CD. The answer to this is simple, software required for indexing and creating CD's is costly, means most members of Societies requiring new skills to trasnfer the details and opens up the records to being easily copied. The number of people producing information compared to the number using it is few, those producing the information are usually volunteers, and most societies will tell you that these are few and far between. So the answer here is very simple, until more people join in and share the workload the chances of getting information in the format that you require are limited. Most societies are Charities putting the revenue from their tranmscriptions sold on CD and microfiche back into further projects. Four years ago I realised that there was very little information on the Internet for Cambridgeshire, Huntingdonshire and Bedfordshire and vowed to do something about it. I would say to everyone who asks a question about availability - Is there something you could do? You are not limited by country or an audience on the Internet. Creating web pages of records or information you have available means that it is readily available to the world. If all researchers did this how much further would we get.... Kind regards, Martin Edwards Chairman - Cambridgeshire Family History Society http://www.cfhs.org.uk Maintainer - Cambridgeshire History Portal http://www.cambridgeshirehistory.com Maintainer - Local Ancestors http://www.localancestors.com Webmaster - GenWeb Cambridgeshire http://www.rootsweb.com/~engcam Webmaster - GenWeb Huntingdonshire http://www.rootsweb.com/~enghun Webmaster - GenWeb Bedfordshire http://www.rootsweb.com/~engbdf Maintainer - GENUKI Cambridgeshire pages http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/CAM/ Maintainer - GENUKI Bedfordshire pages http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/BDF/ Maintainer - GenConnect BBS Cambridgeshire http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/England/Cambridgeshire Maintainer - GenConnect BBS Huntingdonshire http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/England/Huntingdonshire Maintainer - GenConnect BBS Bedfordshire http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/England/Bedfordshire Personal Homepages http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Martin_Edwards_2 mailto: Martin_Edwards_2@compuserve.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jayne Dafforn" <JayneDafforn@torviewbun.freeserve.co.uk> To: <ENG-EAST-ANGLIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 2:15 PM Subject: [EEA] Fiche or Cd Hi List I have been reading various e mails about records on fiche or cds and it seems strange to me that fiche is still in use when it is so much easier to use cds. Also can someone tell me what records and censuses are available on cd other that the 1881 census and vital records and where they can be bought in the UK? Many thanks Jayne ==== ENG-EAST-ANGLIA Mailing List ==== This list is for people who have an interest in the ESSEX, SUFFOLK, NORFOLK,BEDFORDSHIRE and CAMBRIDGESHIRE regions. ENG-EAST-ANGLIA-L-request@rootsweb.com ============================== Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history learning and how-to articles on the Internet. http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library

Hi List I have been reading various e mails about records on fiche or cds and it seems strange to me that fiche is still in use when it is so much easier to use cds. Also can someone tell me what records and censuses are available on cd other that the 1881 census and vital records and where they can be bought in the UK? Many thanks Jayne