Dear All, Yet another batch of Leeds marriages has been added tonight (UK time that is...) 31,583 marriages covering Leeds and district from 1861 to 1870. Full details, as usual, in the updates and coverage pages. There are even a few STOCKDILLs and STOCKDALEs for Roy and perhaps a CORNFORTH or two also. ;-)) Happy Searching ! -- regards, Ian Hartas ---------------------------------- Why is it that the word "gullible" isn't in the dictionary? ----------------------------------

It is in the dictionary as GULL-To deceive outwit, cheat, that must be where the word comes from. AM ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Hartas" <ian.hartas@iclway.co.uk> To: <ENG-DURHAM-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 2:33 PM Subject: [D'hamYorks] Yorkshire BMD updates. > Dear All, > Yet another batch of Leeds marriages has been added tonight (UK time that is...) > > 31,583 marriages covering Leeds and district from 1861 to 1870. > > Full details, as usual, in the updates and coverage pages. > There are even a few STOCKDILLs and STOCKDALEs for Roy and perhaps > a CORNFORTH or two also. ;-)) > > Happy Searching ! > > -- > regards, > Ian Hartas > ---------------------------------- > Why is it that the word "gullible" > isn't in the dictionary? > ---------------------------------- > > > > ==== ENG-DURHAM-YORKS Mailing List ==== > Places to visit: EnglandGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~engwgw/ > Gen-uki England: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/ > Rootsweb HomePage: http://lists.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I would be interested to hear from anyone who has come across a JANE ANN THOMPSON (b. approx 1824) in Co. Durham/Northumberland - possible in North Shields. Thanks Tim

I would be interested to hear from anyone with information about the marriage of a John Johns(t)on & Elizabeth in Co. Durham/Northumberland around 1800. Thanks Tim

I would be pleased to hear from anyone who has come across a JAMES JOHNS(T)ON b. approx 1820 in Co. Durham/Northumberland with a father called John. Thanks Tim

Posting yet again in the hope of finding a connection with another researcher. Would appreciate help . Note different spelling of the Innes name My GGrandparents were Parish of Stockton upon Tees in the County of Durham. Register of Baptisums for the Year 1834 page 251. Nov 23 Susanna 4th daughter of William & Judah INNIFS, Stockton, Weaver. Baptism solemnized in the Chapley of Redcar in the County of York in the year of 1834 June 29th John son of Mark & Mary BAKER, Redcar, Shoemaker. ----------- 1851 Marriage solemnized at the Parish Church in the Parish of Hartlepool in the County of Durham date name age condition rank/prof residence Father names rank/profession of father Nov 23 John BAKER, full , Bachelor, Sailor, Hartlepool, Mark Baker, Fisherman Susannah INNIS full Spinster -------- Hartlepool William Innis Fisherman Married in the church by Banns or after Rob Taylor by me PC John signed by his mark & Susannah signed her name in the presence of Twizell Johnson ??ifsie Smith ---------------------------------------- John & Susannah Baker's children were Mary Ann Baker b 1852 bap 1852 Stockton -on-Tees DUR m 1870 Redcar YKS to Thomas MOULTON Jane Ann Baker bap 1854 St Thomas Church Stockton-on-Tees Dur Emma Baker b abt 1857 Stockton-on-Tees DUR Ellen Baker b abt 1859 Stockton-on-Tees DUR Susannah 1860 b abt 1860 Sunderland DUR John William Innes Baker b 1863 Sunderland DUR m 1890 Qld, Australia to Mary Elizabeth FAGG from Kent England. Rose Morrison Qld Australia

Hello Tim I have a g grandmother Elizabeth Johns(t)on from Spennymoor I think, Durham way for sure. They were at one of the Auckland places there too, Bishop Auckland I think. Parents Mary and George. Elizabeth was bapt in Ireland, and maybe the next child, then one son in Scotland, and the rest round Durham. Elizabeth married a Henry Bernhard(t). Does this ring any bells? Hope so! Dawn (Melbourne, Australia) -----Original Message----- From: Tim Callaghan [mailto:tim.callaghan@4hstc.freeserve.co.uk] Sent: Monday, 11 November 2002 10:54 AM To: ENG-DURHAM-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [D'hamYorks] Surname Interests I am researching that following names in Durham/Northumberland - ERRINGTON JOHNS(T)ON JOLLIFFE THOMPSON I would be please to hear from anyone with similar interests. Thanks Tim ==== ENG-DURHAM-YORKS Mailing List ==== Uh-Oh!!! <----- Missed or deleted a post that would put a crack in your wall? Remember, day and night, the RootsWeb Archives are always there to browse or search from http://www.rootsweb.com . ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Searching for The children of William Pease Heslehurst and Elizabeth Hardy married 22nd June 1859 Middlesborough. Belive future generation spelt the name HESELHURST. Also James Heslehurst born 3rd Oct 1841 Guisborough any of his descendants out there He was the son of John Heslehurst and Maryanne Parkinthanks Bronwyn

I am researching that following names in Durham/Northumberland - ERRINGTON JOHNS(T)ON JOLLIFFE THOMPSON I would be please to hear from anyone with similar interests. Thanks Tim

I am looking for descendants of Cuthbert Ellison of Hebburn. He was married to Jane Carr & was son of Robert Ellison of Newcastle. Could anyone tell me if he had a son called Richard ? Many Thanks. Mandy

Dear all, The first batch of marriage from Leeds and distict have been uploaded to the Yorkshire BMD site : http://www.YorkshireBMD.org.uk They cover marriages from 1837 to 1860 and as usual, full details are in the coverage and update pages on the site itself Other UK BMD site can be found via http://www.UKBMD.org.uk Happy searching ! -- regards, Ian Hartas, co webmaster@yorkshirebmd.org.uk ---------------------------------- Why is it that the word "gullible" isn't in the dictionary? ----------------------------------

To the people whom I am doing lookups for. Sorry, have been unable to do any viewing of the film this week because of illness. Will be in touch soon. Rose Morrison

Hi Rose, I hope you are feeling better soon. Keep your chin up. Best of wishes, Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rose Morrison" <rosebakmor@bigpond.com.au> To: <ENG-DURHAM-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 1:48 AM Subject: [D'hamYorks] Bapitsums Stockton-on-Tees > To the people whom I am doing lookups for. Sorry, have been unable to do any viewing of the film this week because of illness. Will be in touch soon. > Rose Morrison > > > ==== ENG-DURHAM-YORKS Mailing List ==== > Uh-Oh!!! <----- Missed or deleted a post that would put a crack in your > wall? Remember, day and night, the RootsWeb Archives are always there to > browse or search from http://www.rootsweb.com . > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Don't apologise, I am just pleased you were kind enough to offer help. Hope you feel better soon. Valerie Bush -----Original Message----- From: Rose Morrison [mailto:rosebakmor@bigpond.com.au] Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 8:49 PM To: ENG-DURHAM-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [D'hamYorks] Bapitsums Stockton-on-Tees To the people whom I am doing lookups for. Sorry, have been unable to do any viewing of the film this week because of illness. Will be in touch soon. Rose Morrison ==== ENG-DURHAM-YORKS Mailing List ==== Uh-Oh!!! <----- Missed or deleted a post that would put a crack in your wall? Remember, day and night, the RootsWeb Archives are always there to browse or search from http://www.rootsweb.com . ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi Tim, I've had a look for any reference to Robert COATES in the Monumental Inscriptions that I have from North Yorkshire (Barningham, Kirkby Ravensworth, Melsonby and Hutton Magna): there are several dozen references to COATES, but no Robert. I started typing them out last weekend, before I realised how many there were. So here are the Barningham ones. There are about another dozen at Kirkby Ravensworth - if you'd like them, I'll type them next weekend! Barningham Monumental Inscriptions: 50 In loving memory of William HUTCHINSON who d 13 Oct 1875 aged 67yrs. Also Martha his wife who d 5 Oct 1880 aged 71yrs & of Joseph *COATES who d 12 Mar 1878 aged 72yrs Also Mary wife of W.B.SELLERS & dau of the above W & M HUTCHINSON who d 1 Jan 1892 aged 61yrs. (I can't find what the * is for!) 125 In loving memory of George Robson COATES bn 16 Jul 1844 d 17 Jul 1889. Also of Margaret COATES bn 13 Feb 1842 d 26 Apr 1887. Also of George Robson Ernest son of the above who d 18 Feb 1907 at Meeteetse Wyoming USA aged 32 yrs. 1 line text 128 This stone is placed here by Augustus Sussey MILBANK Esq in affectionate remembrance of John & William COATES as well as a record of the long and faithful service in Mr. MILBANK's household. John COATES d 4 Sep 1885 aged 48yrs William COATES d 26 Oct 1883 aged 40yrs. 129 Sacred to the memory of John COATES of Park House, Barningham who d 4 Feb 1867 aged 77yrs & of Isabella his wife who d 4 Jul 1863 aged 53yrs. Also Thomas their son who d 26 Aug 1865 aged 26yrs. Also Isaac their son who d 21 Jul 1866 aged 30yrs & of Isabella thier only dau who d 23 Apr 1867 aged 21yrs. 132 Cross. In memory of Charlie W.H.COATES bn 18 May 1872 d 29 Sep 1877. Evelyn A.M.COATES bn 8 Apr 1876 d 16 Apr 1878 Frederick Joseph bn 31 Mar 1882 d 27 Nov 1882 Ella Rowena COATES bn 31 Jan 1874 d 15 Jan 1908 133 Cross. In loving memory of William COATES of Hawsteads, Barningham bn 31 May 1843 d 26 Oct 1883. Also of Sarah his dearly beloved wife bn 14 May 1874 d 22 Mar 1903 235 In memory of James MANNING of no 3 Falcon St London d 5 Mar 1856 aged 32. Reverse. To the affecionate memory of Jane Grainger COATES wife of Thomas G COATES, school master who in return for the great share of happiness he enjoyed during their union caused this stone to be erected as a tribute of respect and affection to her departed worth. She d at Aldbrough 20 Apr 1826 in 38th yr of her age. The blameless life, the artless tenderness and quiet death are remembered only to add value to the loss and deepen the sorrow for what cannot be recalled. The real worth of virtue ne'er is known, till it vanished from our eyes and gone. Also Thomas Grainger COATES d 2 Nov 1854 aged 74. Sarah his wife d 16 Oct 1863 aged 73. 328 Cross. In loving memory of Martha the loved wife of Isaac COATES bn Aug 1827 at rest 7 Feb 1904. Isaac COATES bn 26 Feb 1821 d 17 Mar 1918. At Melsonby, there is one: 18. In memory of Hugh COATES d Apr 3 1873 aged 79yrs also Mary his wife d Sep 9 1871 aged 79yrs -------their son -------st 1833 ---ars Rosemary, Northumberland UK Rosemary's Family History - or at least a little bit of it! http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rprobert/index.htm In message of 30 Oct you wrote: > I was wondering if SKS/Miracle Worker could help me with my 'wall' that I > have been at for over a year now. I have my COATES line going back to a > Robert COATES. I do not know where or when he was born but it almost > certainly is somewhere within North Yorkshire (probably between or near to > the A1 / A19) and circa the 1770's to 1780's. From the Quarter Sessions > Division of Gilling East in the North Riding of Yorkshire (from MicroFilm at > the Archives in Northallerton) he may have been an Innkeeper in Smeaton > (Great Smeaton I assume ?) between 1793 and 1808.

Derek Thanks for the advice but what information is required to find an entry in the 1861 census? ----- Original Message ----- From: Derek Cuthbert <derek.cuthbert@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <ENG-DURHAM-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [D'hamYorks] HARRISON from Felling - 1861 lookup please > Kevin, > The 1861 Census is not indexed so you're asking an almost impossible task > Derek Cuthbert > South Shields >

I am looking for two pieces of advice please: Firstly is it safe to assume that if a marriage certificate (1859) does not state that the groom's father is deceased that this is correct, and he was still alive at that time? I have had enormous difficulty in confirming which of the numerous John Robinsons in North Yorkshire & the Stockton area was my 2 x gt. grandfather. I have now changed tactics and am looking for his death as a possible way of locating him. On 18th April 1859 my gt. grandfather Robert married and the certificate does not say his father was deceased (marriage at Skelton says "father John Robinson, sailor"). I know that John's occupation did alternate between that of sailor and farmer. Five years later an Elizabeth Robinson (who for a long time I have suspected to be the elder daughter) married on 1st May 1864 at the Brunswick Methodist Chapel in Whitby. This certificate states the father (John Robinson, farmer) to be deceased. I am thinking of checking through the GRO death indexes for all possiblities between 1859 and 1864 - hoping that it is safe to assume he was actually still alive in 1859? Secondly, is it possible that a local Whitby newspaper may have a report of the marriage which could indicate where Elizabeth Robinson's father had lived? The marriage certificate gives the place of residence for both Elizabeth and her husband (Manuel Russell) as Hinderwell, although in 1851 Elizabeth was living in Brotton as she was later in 1881. Any ideas/ comments would be welcome. Margaret

Kevin, The 1861 Census is not indexed so you're asking an almost impossible task Derek Cuthbert South Shields

If anyone has access to the 1861 census for Felling in Durham could they please have a look for John HARRISON aged 27 Many thanks Kevin Barclay

Hi Is there SKS who could look up the TEASDALE family on the 1851 Great Ayton census please? John Teasdale was a Labourer and he and his wife would be in their sixties at this time. Sorry - no other information to hand yet. Many thanks in anticipation. Jayne K ----- Original Message ----- From: <ENG-DURHAM-YORKS-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <ENG-DURHAM-YORKS-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 11:00 PM Subject: ENG-DURHAM-YORKS-D Digest V02 #179