----- Original Message ----- From: "Rose Morrison" <rosebakmor@bigpond.com.au> To: <ENG-DURHAM-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 06 February 2003 21:00 Subject: Re: [D'hamYorks] Re: Marriages for female Bakers > Hi Pat, > I would be interested in the 1861 census information on these families as I > have found that Elizabeth Inniss husband Rodger DEA and their son John > (Edward) DEA in the New York, US on the US 1880 census, living in a boarding > house. On the census it is listed that Rodger Dea is married but have not be > able to find Elizabeth or her daughters. Also on the English 1881 Census > can't find what happened to William INNES and his wife Hannah Spink and > their family or Susannah BAKER nee INNISS or her daughters. > At the moment I am reading the film for marriages 1866-1888 St Thomas > Church, Stockton in the hope of finding the marriages for the female Baker > members of my line. Don't know if Susannah Baker nee Inniss remarried or not > and this is why I can't find her on the 1881 census.Keep your fingers > crossed that I get some answers to these question from this film and not > another lot of just questions. > Will be away for 10 days from the 8th Feb., off to see the grandchildren . > Hope to hear from you soon > Rose > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "patricia maleary" <patricia.maleary@ntlworld.com> > To: <ENG-DURHAM-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 12:20 AM > Subject: Re: [D'hamYorks] Re: Marriages for female Bakers > > > > Hi Rose, > > I still haven't had time for any research but after looking > > thro' various info found this. > > UK BMD exchange > > INNES > > Duncan Septimus married Mary Corner 8 April 1860, Castle Eden, Co. Durham. > > Did i give you info from 1861 census about Judith Innes fish dealer > > & Grandaughter Cordelia. > > Also William Innes & wife Hannah at Bolton House Yd > > I'll keep on digging > > Pat from Stockton > > >> > Hi Rose, I found these in St Paul's, Thornaby---- Marriage Nov 9, 1846 Charles INNIS Bat Flaxdresser Stockton Father James Innis Flaxdresser to Sarah Rowntree Sp Thornaby father Thomas Rowntree Sawyer Both of full age -------------------------------- Marriage Dec 31, 1876(No 89) Robert INNISS 24 Bat Laborer S. Stockton father William Inness Bottlemaker to Emma Williams 20 Sp S.Stockton father David Williams Roll Turner by Banns witnesses Robert Faw? Jane Tranter ------------------------------- St Cath's Marriage index March Q 1849 INNESS Ann Stockton 24 229 --------------------------------- March Q 1849 JOHNSON Twyzell Stockton 24 229 -------------------------------- Nat Burial Index INNES 22 Feb 1844 Holy Trinity, Stockton James aged 60 ---------------- Nov 7,1832 John St Thomas ,Stockton --------------- Jan 1, 1860 St thomas Thomas John 19weeks ------------------- INNIS Elizabeth Dec 6, 1826 aged 85 St Thomas ------------------------ Mar 1, 1864 St Thomas Thomas 5 mnths ----------------------- Jan 2, 1864 St thomas William aged 41 --------------------- INNISS Joseph St Thomas Dec 7, 1828 7mnths ------------------------------- 1861 CENSUS--Stockton-on-Tees Bolton House Yard William INNES Head M 29 Durham, Stockton Hannah '' Wife M 24 '' '' -------------------------------------- Wasps Nest Judith INNES Head Wid 67 Fish dealer Yorks, Dewsbury Cordelia '' G/Dau U 15 Durham, Stockton ------------------------------------------ Regards from Pat

Hi, I am Diane, new to the list. What I am looking for is does anyone know of where to write to for adoption records for 1879. The area that I am looking for is Hartlepool, Durham. The surname is GRAHAM. I hope that someone can help me. From Diane Sowden

I am researching BRUCES from STOCKTON ON TEES DURHAM and THORNABY ON TEES DURHAM. I have got to a WILLIAM BRUCE born 1826 STOCKTON ON TEES but i cannot find any information as to his parents or family he was living in stockton on his own in 1841 age 14 but cannot find any other BRUCES. Is anyone else researching the same surname or can help me as they have all been big families to date. thanks

Hi Pamela It's slightly outside your timescale, but I have a Phillis WILKINSON who married a Joseph BELL in 1807 in Middleton-in-Teesdale. Their children were Nancy, John, Richard & Betty. Any connections? Regards Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: john murphy [mailto:murph@idl.net.au] > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 3:48 AM > To: ENG-DURHAM-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [D'hamYorks] Reposting interests > > Hi List, > > Reposting my interests in Middleton-in-Teesdale in the 1700's, > CROWTHER/CROWDER/BELL/HEATON. > > Is anyone else researching these surnames? > > Pamela Murphy > Newcastle, Australia > > ______________________________

Hi List, Reposting my interests in Middleton-in-Teesdale in the 1700's, CROWTHER/CROWDER/BELL/HEATON. Is anyone else researching these surnames? Pamela Murphy Newcastle, Australia

I'm interested in JOHNS(T)ONs and JOLLIFFES from North/South Shields / Tynemouth in the early 1800s, particularly those that were mariners. Also interestd in ERRINGTON. I would be pleased to hear from anyone with similar interests. Thanks Tim

--part1_7a.3842804f.2b7a36af_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_7a.3842804f.2b7a36af_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: <Pmc248@cs.com> From: Pmc248@cs.com Full-name: Pmc248 Message-ID: <188.15c6ee44.2b7a35a2@cs.com> Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 06:16:50 EST Subject: RENNEY- CHEESEBROUGH- BUTLER To: BRIT-SURNAMES-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: CompuServe 2000 32-bit sub 107 RENNEY - County Durham, or any N. E. County, from 1700 onwards or anywhere in the U.K. or the world. Also RENNIE in Scotland, especially Angus [ Forfarshire] in the 1600s and onwards. CHEESEBROUGH - Bradford, Yorks and Middlesbrough N. Yorks in 1800s and 1900s up to today. BUTLER - London, Clapham and Hampstead areas, in the 1940s and 1950s, before, during and after WW2. Have lots of RENNEY info. in the N.E. Counties, trying to make connections. Regards, Pam [RENNEY] McKinley an Aldershot, Hants. gal in Arizona. --part1_7a.3842804f.2b7a36af_boundary--

Hi everyone Has anybody got access to the 1861 or 1871 census for the Ingleton area (near Staindrop)?? Looking for William (aged 63 in 1861) and Ann WHITE (aged 63 in 1861 also). In 1881 William had died and Ann was living at Todwell House, Ingleton with her granddaughter and family. Any help is much appreciated Kind Regards David

Hello, I am researching the CASTLE family from Allergate, Durham Is anyone else interested in this family? Please let me know if you are.

Hi Sue Thanks for reply. You guessed correctly I am looking for his 2nd marriage the igi info you have sent re Annaliza PENNOCK could well be his 1st marriage I missed that one on my igi search.Thank you. The chrs 1840 at St hedda R.C. Church is I feel to early but I could be wrong.I also suspect his parents to be MATTHEW ROE bn 1810 + ANN WHITE bn 1814 married Egton 1840. child WILLIAM ROE Bapt 1st june 1844,MARY 1842,ANN 1846,GEORGE 1851,JOHN 1852 and HANNAH ROE 1858. The 1901 Census at 40 Charlotte St West Hartlepool shows. WILLIAM ROE HD married 56 gen labourer bn Egton.Wife ELLEN ROE 41 bn Stockton Durham. WILLIAM ROE son s 17 app plasterer bn w. Hartlepool .FLORENCE ROE dtr s 15 bn W.Hartlepool.MATTHEW ROE son s 13 bn <nimthorpe> Yorks.ELLEN ROE dtr s 11 bn Middlesbrough.ISSABELLA ROE dtr s 8 bn Middlesbrough.JOHN ROE son s 6 bn W.Hartlepool.ANN ROE dtr s 3 bn W.Hartlepool.This WILLIAM ROE app plasterer was my G/F He died 1942 at Wallasey Wirral Cheshire.occ at that time was master plasterer.The 1881 census extracts you quote I do have this is the one I favour as a result of his 1st marriage WILLIAM ROE hd W age 36 bn Egton occ blk smith. FRED ROE son age 14 bn Egton app carpenter.ANNIE JANE ROE dtr age 11 bn Egton.Yorks. The 1901 census WILLIAM ROE bn 1884 and occ app plasterer bn West Hartlepool matches my G/F,s details 100%. He also had 2 marriages he apparently had 2-3 children by his 1st wife whom he left to elope with my G/M HENRIETTA CHARLOTTE KNOWLSON by whom he had issue LORNA ROE bn 1914.LENOARD,DONALD,IVY,DERECK,GRANVILLE and 2 others gender u/kn these were the 1st born who died very young prior to 1914 probably. HE eventually married HENRIETTA shortly before his death in 1942 I suspect that his first wife had died allowing him to remarry he was a R.C. at birth but renounced his religion possibly because his 1st wife would not give him a divorce. She apparently emmigrated some family members say to India others say U.S.A. Possibly with or without the children of the 1st marriage.Quite a mine-field to negotiate.If any of this makes sense to you or any on the list who may see a connection Please get back to me. My Grateful Thanks to you Sue and also Grenville Davies and Helen Mitter who have given me previous family links off list. Best Regards to all Ron

Could someone with more local knowledge please advise my next step? We have located the death of my 3 x g.grandfather, James BELL (b. Hutton Rudby, N. Yorks l790). James left Hornby (nr. Gt. Smeaton) and his work on the land, some time after l85l. By l855 he was working as a railway labourer on the Stockton & Darlington Railway. On 3rd October l855 he was "accidentally killed" by being hit by the "tender of an engine" at Middridge. His death cert. was signed by Thomas THORNTON, Dep. Coroner Bishop Auckland. We believe the nearest place to Middridge on the railway would have been Shildon Junction. Could I ask which current library local to Middridge may have searchable newspaper archives from that time - and also, how I would find out whether coroners records were kept. I have heard that they are normally destroyed after a certain time. It occurred to me that there may be a third source of information in view of it being an accident on the railways - would the local rail board have records? Any possible lead would be most gratefully acknowledged. Regards Diane Johansen

I've used the following addresses, successfully: Co. Durham Durham Durham County Record Office County Hall Durham DH1 5UL Tel: 0191 3833253 http://www.durham.gov.uk/durhamcc/usp.nsf/web/pages/durham+record+office+hom Middles borough The phone number is 01642 262078 Stockton on Tees Address Registrar of Births, Deaths & Marriages, Nightingale House Balaclava Street Stockton-on-Tees TS18 2AL Tel +44 (0)1642 393939 Registration and Census District (1852 - 1946) 10a Gateshead. address The Register Office Civic Centre Regent Street Gateshead Tyne and Wear NE8 1HH Tel 01914771011 Newcastle upon Tyne Address Civic Centre Barras Bridge Newcastle upon Tyne Tyne and Wear NE1 7RH Tel +44 (0)191 232 8250/9921 Registration and Census District (1852 - 1946) 10b Hope this helps, Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: <K1ark@aol.com> To: <ENG-DURHAM-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 4:41 PM Subject: [D'hamYorks] Certificates > As I understand it, the price of obtaining B, M, & D certificates is going up > sometime in the next few months. Since there are a number from the Durham > area I need, I'm hoping someone can give me some advice regarding obtaining > them through the post in the most expeditious fashion. In many cases I know > the St. Catherine's index numbers, in other cases specific dates, and in a > few, just guesstimates of dates. I've been told that the cheapest & most > straightforward way is to get them from the local registry office. > Most of the events occurred in Kelloe Parish, so which office would I need to > contact? And what information will they need in order to produce a > certificate. Are there options, e.g., photocopy versus certified copy, and > what are the prices? > If anyone can shorthand this and forward a web address where I could get this > info, that would be much appreciated. Thanks for your time and consideration. > Dave Moore, Webster, New York, USA > > > ==== ENG-DURHAM-YORKS Mailing List ==== > ~~ The List's Golden Rule ~~ > Keep it clean! Keep it Cool! Treat others on the List like you want them > to treat you . . . . . . . . . and we'll get along just fine!! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Rory, The IGI has a marriage in 1865 in Egton of William ROE born about 1842, to Annaliza PENNOCK, who was born 6 June 1846 in Egton, Yorks, daughter of James PENNOCK and Hannah OXLEY. Might you be looking for a second marriage? It also offers a christening of William ROE on 6 Jul 1840, at St. Hedda RC, Egton, Yorks, son of Thomas ROE and Mary Ann FRANKLOAND. It also shows an extract from 1881 census, which you may already have and/ or is the wrong one: Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability William ROE Head M Male 39 Bingley, York, England Labourer At Gas Works Ellen ROE Wife M Female 36 Bingley, York, England Fred ROE Son U Male 17 Bingley, York, England Worsted Mill Hand Mary Ann ROE Daur Female 15 Bingley, York, England Worsted Spinner James ROE Son U Male 13 Bingley, York, England Worsted Mill Hand Alice ROE Daur Female 12 Bingley, York, England Worsted Spinner Anne ROE Daur Female 9 Bingley, York, England Scholar William S. ROE Son Male 7 Birmingham, Warwick, England Scholar Jane ROE Daur Female 4 Bingley, York, England ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Source Information: Dwelling 40 Burrage St Census Place Bingley, York, England Family History Library Film 1342037 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4342 / 13 Page Number 20 There is this William ROE as well: Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability William ROE Head W Male 36 Egton, York, England Blacksmith Fred ROE Son Male 14 Egton, York, England Carpenter Apprentice Annie Jane ROE Daur Female 11 Egton, York, England Scholar ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Source Information: Dwelling Egton Census Place Egton, York, England Family History Library Film 1342164 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4832 / 20 Page Number 3 And this one! Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability William ROE Head M Male 34 Egton, York, England Blacksmith Elizabeth ROE Wife M Female 26 Glaisdale, York, England George ROE Son Male 3 Egton, York, England Lillian Mary ROE Daur Female 1 Egton, York, England ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Source Information: Dwelling Egton Census Place Egton, York, England Family History Library Film 1342164 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4832 / 20 Page Number 3 ----- Original Message ----- From: "rory" <rory@mgownersclub.net> To: <ENG-DURHAM-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 3:59 AM Subject: Re: [D'hamYorks] Re: Marriages for female Bakers > Hi Rose I saw your posting re Bakers etc. I wondered if you would do me a > favour when viewing the Stockton Church records. I,m looking for William Roe > bn 1845 Egton Yorks.Whom I suspect married at Stockton ELLEN Maiden name not > known.ELLEN was bn 1860 Stockton. I would be grateful if you would keep > your eyes open for this pairing. Best Regards Ron > > > ==== ENG-DURHAM-YORKS Mailing List ==== > ~~ The List's Golden Rule ~~ > Keep it clean! Keep it Cool! Treat others on the List like you want them > to treat you . . . . . . . . . and we'll get along just fine!! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

As I understand it, the price of obtaining B, M, & D certificates is going up sometime in the next few months. Since there are a number from the Durham area I need, I'm hoping someone can give me some advice regarding obtaining them through the post in the most expeditious fashion. In many cases I know the St. Catherine's index numbers, in other cases specific dates, and in a few, just guesstimates of dates. I've been told that the cheapest & most straightforward way is to get them from the local registry office. Most of the events occurred in Kelloe Parish, so which office would I need to contact? And what information will they need in order to produce a certificate. Are there options, e.g., photocopy versus certified copy, and what are the prices? If anyone can shorthand this and forward a web address where I could get this info, that would be much appreciated. Thanks for your time and consideration. Dave Moore, Webster, New York, USA

Hi Pat, I would be interested in the 1861 census information on these families as I have found that Elizabeth Inniss husband Rodger DEA and their son John (Edward) DEA in the New York, US on the US 1880 census, living in a boarding house. On the census it is listed that Rodger Dea is married but have not be able to find Elizabeth or her daughters. Also on the English 1881 Census can't find what happened to William INNES and his wife Hannah Spink and their family or Susannah BAKER nee INNISS or her daughters. At the moment I am reading the film for marriages 1866-1888 St Thomas Church, Stockton in the hope of finding the marriages for the female Baker members of my line. Don't know if Susannah Baker nee Inniss remarried or not and this is why I can't find her on the 1881 census.Keep your fingers crossed that I get some answers to these question from this film and not another lot of just questions. Will be away for 10 days from the 8th Feb., off to see the grandchildren . Hope to hear from you soon Rose ----- Original Message ----- From: "patricia maleary" <patricia.maleary@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-DURHAM-YORKS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 12:20 AM Subject: Re: [D'hamYorks] Re: Marriages for female Bakers > Hi Rose, > I still haven't had time for any research but after looking > thro' various info found this. > UK BMD exchange > INNES > Duncan Septimus married Mary Corner 8 April 1860, Castle Eden, Co. Durham. > Did i give you info from 1861 census about Judith Innes fish dealer > & Grandaughter Cordelia. > Also William Innes & wife Hannah at Bolton House Yd > I'll keep on digging > Pat from Stockton > > > ==== ENG-DURHAM-YORKS Mailing List ==== > Uh-Oh!!! <----- Missed or deleted a post that would put a crack in your > wall? Remember, day and night, the RootsWeb Archives are always there to > browse or search from http://www.rootsweb.com . > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Rose I saw your posting re Bakers etc. I wondered if you would do me a favour when viewing the Stockton Church records. I,m looking for William Roe bn 1845 Egton Yorks.Whom I suspect married at Stockton ELLEN Maiden name not known.ELLEN was bn 1860 Stockton. I would be grateful if you would keep your eyes open for this pairing. Best Regards Ron

Hi Rose, I still haven't had time for any research but after looking thro' various info found this. UK BMD exchange INNES Duncan Septimus married Mary Corner 8 April 1860, Castle Eden, Co. Durham. Did i give you info from 1861 census about Judith Innes fish dealer & Grandaughter Cordelia. Also William Innes & wife Hannah at Bolton House Yd I'll keep on digging Pat from Stockton

Posting my interest. I am studying the history and migration of the PORTEOUS and PORTEUS families (as well as other variant spellings, such as PORTAS, PORTESS, PORTIS, PORTICE, PORTUS - amongst many others). I'm researching the history and spread of the above names ­ especially the migration of members of any branches of this formerly small Borders family from southern Scotland - initially to England and Ireland, then to the US and Canada - and later to the former British colonies of New Zealand, Australia and South Africa (from the 17th through to the early 20th centuries), and the main original areas of settlement (cities, provinces and states). County Durham and North Yorkshire are known to have contained clusters of PORTEOUS families from the eighteenth century onwards. Any confirmed information regarding dates of emigration or arrival and places of origin and settlement would be appreciated. Bruce PORTEOUS Porteous Research Project Norfolk, England porteousresearch@mail.com http://porteous.digitalrice.com/

Is anyone researching the family of Rodger DEA born about 1820 with the father also called Rodger Dea a weaver. Rodger DEA (junior) married Elizabeth INNISS in St Thomas Church, Stockton, Durham in 1839 and had at least 7 children. Jane bap 1840 Mary Jane bap 1844 Ellen Irana b 1846 Elizabeth bap 1851 John Edward bap 1858 and 2 unknown daughters In 1858 Rodger Dea was a foreman in a Twine Mill in Leeds,Yks, Eng. Not on the 1881 English Census but went to the US. When? 1880 US census has him living in what looks like a boarding house with he son . Harts Falls, Rensselaer, New York name relation marital status gender race age birthplace occup father birthplace mother birthplace Rodger DEA other M male W 58 ENG Supt. of Linen Mill, Eng Eng *Edward DEA other S male W 21 ENG Overseer in Linen Mill Eng Eng * John Edward Dea Other living at the same address who were born in the British Iles. name age where born Andrew CUMMING 58 Scot Anna JOICE 16 Ire James KIRK 43 Eng Robert BAXTER 48 Scot James WILEY 48 Ire William BRITTIAN 36 Eng ---------------------------------------------------- What happened to his wife Elizabeth and their daughters? Researching the Inniss side of this family and would like to correspond with other researching the Dea family connection.. Rose Morrison Qld Australia

List, please except my apology in not signing my Marriages for Baker females posting. After waiting six weeks for a film for St Thomas Church, Stockton, Durham church records, would think that I would of learnt patience but NO, pressed send before signing. Help in finding ANY female BAKER marriages with the father being John Baker seaman, would be appreciated. Rose Morrison Qld Australia