Hello Listers Thanks to the kind person who did a 1861 lookup for me I have at last found my family! Now I need to ask another favour! If SKP could look for them on the 1871 to clarify the wifes name for me or if she is still alive. The 61 showed her as Jane KERR born Scotland and in 1881 she was Abagail born Cumberland. If I can find them on the 71 this may help. In 61 they were living at 40 Sans Street, Sunderland Thanks again Christine --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.686 / Virus Database: 447 - Release Date: 14/05/2004