Hi everyone :) After a search on the Victorian CDs from Australia, I now have the following information ... Elizabeth ARMSTRONG born 1848, Durham. Thomas ARMSTRONG born 1848, Durham. Esther Ann ARMSTRONG born 1862, Australia, died 1862 (stillborn?) William Edward ARMSTRONG born 1863 Australia, died 1891 Australia aged 27. John ARMSTRONG (father) I have absolutely no information on other than his occupation at the time of Elizabeth's death. Dorothy ARMSTRONG (nee WAUGH, mother) I have as born about 1821 somewhere in England. Dorothy was about 27 when she gave birth to Elizabeth and Thomas so I'm thinking that perhaps she's either had a bad history of infantile deaths, stillborns or miscarriages, or she started having children later in life. Does anyone know if this was a "trend" back at this time? Also, would it be highly unlikely for a child born in say 1862 to be married at the age of 12 or 15? There was a marriage for a William Edward ARMSTRONG on the CDs, but I felt he may be too young. It's not physically impossible, but is it probable? Any thoughts on all of this would be extremely appreciated. Perhaps Geoff can help me with this? You know a lot about that era Geoff, I'd value any input you can give me! :D As for births prior to Elizabeth's, I might have to wait and see if someone will be able to do a parish register lookup for me, to see if there are any previous issue listed on Elizabeth and Thomas' birth records. It may also tell me if Thomas survived the birth. I can't offer anyone my firstborn in "payment" I'm afraid, I "gave" both of them to Susan for going to the records office for me!! ;D Take care, Rob. IBSSG Stuttgart, Germany Honey's Home of Genealogy www.honeyshome.com