Angela, could I be wrong about Eleanor. I was guessing on their marriage date based on when my grandmother was born. Could this be her? Lori ----- Original Message ----- From: Anne Hamilton<mailto:annehamilton@ntlworld.com> To: Lori Williams<mailto:williamslorid@msn.com> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 3:50 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-DUR] Re: CRAGGS Hi Lori, I've just seen your messages regarding your Craggs and Harrisons and somebody might already have passed on the following information but just in case, here goes... If you go to the FreeBMD website at http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl<http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl> and do a search for births of Arthur Craggs, there is this entry: Births registered in Dec 1875 Craggs Arthur Darlington 10a 28 Do a search for birth of Eleanor Craggs and you get this entry: Births registered in Jun 1849 CRAGGS Eleanor Durham &c 24 97 Do a search for marriage of Eleanor Craggs and you get this possibility (are you sure they married extremely young?): Marriages registered in Jun 1871 CRAGGS Eleanor Darlington 10a 19 Harrison William Darlington 10a 19 Meynell Elizabeth Darlington 10a 19 Young George Darlington 10a 19 If you know the FreeBMD website, you will know that the database is not complete - there could have been more people registered in that quarter of that year, or the Eleanor Craggs mentioned, might have married George Young or indeed someone else. Also, if you are sure they got married a lot earlier, then the entry might not have been transcribed yet so would not be there. I had a look around on the 1881 census for other Craggs living in Darlington and came across this entry. 1881 census John CRAGGS Head W Male 37 Shildon, Durham, England Ry Engine Driver Jane CRAGGS Sister U Female 29 Waskerley, Durham, England Dressmaker John W. CRAGGS Son Male 10 Darlington, Durham, England Scholar Charles H. CRAGGS Son Male 8 Darlington, Durham, England Scholar Sarah J. CRAGGS Daur Female 5 Darlington, Durham, England Scholar Lizzie E. CRAGGS Daur Female 4 Darlington, Durham, England Source Information: Dwelling 24 Henry St Census Place Darlington, Durham, England Family History Library Film 1342175 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4886 / 37 Page Number 17 The Jane Craggs mentioned was born in Waskerley. Is this coincidence or could she have been related to your Eleanor (if your Eleanor was a Craggs). Could Arthur have been son of Jane Craggs? I think your best bet is to buy Arthur Craggs birth certificate and at least that would tell you his mother's name, probably not his father's name if he was illegitimate. Then (unless you're absolutely certain about them getting married very young) you could try that possible marriage in 1871 of Eleanor Craggs and see if she did marry William Harrison. If it's the wrong one, then at least you can cross that one off the list. Anyway, hope this helps in some way and is not a wild goose chase, but if nothing else, the Arthur Craggs birth entry in 1875 in Darlington would fit with the 1881 census details of him so I would start there and go onwards. Regards Anne
Lori, Your family has got me intrigued now (well actually it's Tuesday morning and this is much more interesting than doing the housework!). If you do get Arthur Craggs birth certificate I'd be curious to know who his parent/s were. I've noted doing a rough search on the 1901 census, William & Eleanor Harrison living in the same household as John and Margaret Newton and children. Have you seen the actual household details? Can you tell me what John and Margaret and William and Eleanor's relationship to head was? I don't want to confuse the issue right now but I have an idea forming about this family and the census information might help prove or disprove it. Thanks and regards Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lori Williams" <williamslorid@msn.com> To: <ENG-DURHAM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 5:48 PM Subject: Fw: [ENG-DUR] Re: CRAGGS > Angela, could I be wrong about Eleanor. I was guessing on their marriage date based on when my grandmother was born. Could this be her? > Lori > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Anne Hamilton<mailto:annehamilton@ntlworld.com> > To: Lori Williams<mailto:williamslorid@msn.com> > Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 3:50 AM > Subject: Re: [ENG-DUR] Re: CRAGGS > > > Hi Lori, > > I've just seen your messages regarding your Craggs and Harrisons and > somebody might already have passed on the following information but just in > case, here goes... > > If you go to the FreeBMD website at > http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl<http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/se arch.pl> and do a search for births of > Arthur Craggs, there is this entry: > Births registered in Dec 1875 Craggs Arthur Darlington 10a 28 > > Do a search for birth of Eleanor Craggs and you get this entry: > Births registered in Jun 1849 CRAGGS Eleanor Durham &c 24 97 > > Do a search for marriage of Eleanor Craggs and you get this possibility (are > you sure they married extremely young?): > Marriages registered in Jun 1871 > CRAGGS Eleanor Darlington 10a 19 > Harrison William Darlington 10a 19 > Meynell Elizabeth Darlington 10a 19 > Young George Darlington 10a 19 > > If you know the FreeBMD website, you will know that the database is not > complete - there could have been more people registered in that quarter of > that year, or the Eleanor Craggs mentioned, might have married George Young > or indeed someone else. Also, if you are sure they got married a lot > earlier, then the entry might not have been transcribed yet so would not be > there. > > I had a look around on the 1881 census for other Craggs living in Darlington > and came across this entry. > 1881 census > John CRAGGS Head W Male 37 Shildon, Durham, England Ry Engine > Driver > Jane CRAGGS Sister U Female 29 Waskerley, Durham, England > Dressmaker > John W. CRAGGS Son Male 10 Darlington, Durham, England Scholar > Charles H. CRAGGS Son Male 8 Darlington, Durham, England > Scholar > Sarah J. CRAGGS Daur Female 5 Darlington, Durham, England > Scholar > Lizzie E. CRAGGS Daur Female 4 Darlington, Durham, England > Source Information: > Dwelling 24 Henry St > Census Place Darlington, Durham, England > Family History Library Film 1342175 > Public Records Office Reference RG11 > Piece / Folio 4886 / 37 > Page Number 17 > > The Jane Craggs mentioned was born in Waskerley. Is this coincidence or > could she have been related to your Eleanor (if your Eleanor was a Craggs). > Could Arthur have been son of Jane Craggs? > > I think your best bet is to buy Arthur Craggs birth certificate and at least > that would tell you his mother's name, probably not his father's name if he > was illegitimate. > > Then (unless you're absolutely certain about them getting married very > young) you could try that possible marriage in 1871 of Eleanor Craggs and > see if she did marry William Harrison. If it's the wrong one, then at least > you can cross that one off the list. > > Anyway, hope this helps in some way and is not a wild goose chase, but if > nothing else, the Arthur Craggs birth entry in 1875 in Darlington would fit > with the 1881 census details of him so I would start there and go onwards. > > Regards > Anne > > > > > ==== ENG-DURHAM Mailing List ==== > I.G.I. Family Search > http://www.familysearch.org/ > Public Record Office U.K > http://www.pro.gov.uk >