Wow Anne, thanks a bunch. You might be right! I was taking a guess that Eleanor and William married young based on my gg Margerets birth. I have had trouble finding other Harrison children. But your information on Jane Craggs has a piece of the puzzle too. My gg grandmother Margeret was a dressmaker as well before marriage, I found this in an old directory of the town. She went by Mary. Also, Eleanor my ggg grandmother was born in Waskerly, same as Jane. Sister most likely. So, guessing on Arthur Craggs would mean he could be either Eleanor's child or Janes. Very good story coming together. Thanks a million for your hard work, just amazing how many are so great at this. Thank goodness for me Have a wonderful day, PS, rain and clouds in Portland Oregon today after several days of 100 degrees. Lori ----- Original Message ----- From: Anne Hamilton<mailto:annehamilton@ntlworld.com> To: Lori Williams<mailto:williamslorid@msn.com> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 3:50 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-DUR] Re: CRAGGS Hi Lori, I've just seen your messages regarding your Craggs and Harrisons and somebody might already have passed on the following information but just in case, here goes... If you go to the FreeBMD website at http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl<http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl> and do a search for births of Arthur Craggs, there is this entry: Births registered in Dec 1875 Craggs Arthur Darlington 10a 28 Do a search for birth of Eleanor Craggs and you get this entry: Births registered in Jun 1849 CRAGGS Eleanor Durham &c 24 97 Do a search for marriage of Eleanor Craggs and you get this possibility (are you sure they married extremely young?): Marriages registered in Jun 1871 CRAGGS Eleanor Darlington 10a 19 Harrison William Darlington 10a 19 Meynell Elizabeth Darlington 10a 19 Young George Darlington 10a 19 If you know the FreeBMD website, you will know that the database is not complete - there could have been more people registered in that quarter of that year, or the Eleanor Craggs mentioned, might have married George Young or indeed someone else. Also, if you are sure they got married a lot earlier, then the entry might not have been transcribed yet so would not be there. I had a look around on the 1881 census for other Craggs living in Darlington and came across this entry. 1881 census John CRAGGS Head W Male 37 Shildon, Durham, England Ry Engine Driver Jane CRAGGS Sister U Female 29 Waskerley, Durham, England Dressmaker John W. CRAGGS Son Male 10 Darlington, Durham, England Scholar Charles H. CRAGGS Son Male 8 Darlington, Durham, England Scholar Sarah J. CRAGGS Daur Female 5 Darlington, Durham, England Scholar Lizzie E. CRAGGS Daur Female 4 Darlington, Durham, England Source Information: Dwelling 24 Henry St Census Place Darlington, Durham, England Family History Library Film 1342175 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4886 / 37 Page Number 17 The Jane Craggs mentioned was born in Waskerley. Is this coincidence or could she have been related to your Eleanor (if your Eleanor was a Craggs). Could Arthur have been son of Jane Craggs? I think your best bet is to buy Arthur Craggs birth certificate and at least that would tell you his mother's name, probably not his father's name if he was illegitimate. Then (unless you're absolutely certain about them getting married very young) you could try that possible marriage in 1871 of Eleanor Craggs and see if she did marry William Harrison. If it's the wrong one, then at least you can cross that one off the list. Anyway, hope this helps in some way and is not a wild goose chase, but if nothing else, the Arthur Craggs birth entry in 1875 in Darlington would fit with the 1881 census details of him so I would start there and go onwards. Regards Anne