Hi Robyn, It's unlikely that Elizabeth's death certificate will be of assistance with other children, siblings that is. But the birth certificate of one of the children born out here should give you date and place of her parents marriage, together with names and ages of other children. John snr.'s death certificate should tell you when he arrived in Australia, but again the accuracy of the information depends on the knowledge of the informant. Judy Thomas --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 19/07/2004