In a message dated 09/07/2004 04:13:14 GMT Daylight Time, katie13@australiaonline.net.au writes: I have Joseph SA(U)NDERS and Isabella TURNER marrying 26/3/1808 Gateshead, Durham, England. ( possible 3xg/grandparents). On the marriage Joseph appears as SANDERS on the birth of the children he appears as SAUNDERS. No info of parents of either one Only children of this couple found so far are, Catherine b 4/11/1808, Chr 4/11/1808 Gateshead (I believe this is my 2xg/grandmother) Anne b 4/11/1808, Chr 4/11/1808 Gateshead Mary b 21/12/1809, Chr 11/2/1810 Gateshead . . The baptism dates you quote are all within the "Barrington period" when, within Durham Diocese which Gateshead is, lots of details are given about the parents of children being baptised. That detail includes things such as the names of the parishes of which each parent was a native, as well as where the child came in the family (1st son, third daughter, etc), and usually other things such as the address and occupation of the father. Knowing where these parents came from should then be an excellent clue for you to use in locating their baptisms. . . Geoff Nicholson . 57 Manor Park, Concord, WASHINGTON, Tyne & Wear NE37 2BU Long-established Professional Genealogist: ask for details of NBL/DUR family history research by THE local expert, working for YOU.