I can only go on family memories. In our family, a lump of dough was pulled from the pan as it was risen but before second. kneading (knocking back) This was rolled out fairly thinly, and then balanced on both hands and forearms and literally thrown into the oven. ( Hence the stotty, I suppose) You had to remember to open the oven door first or you were in trouble!! It would be ready well before the rest of the bread loaves and we always had it for tea, with jam though. Here's my mothers recipe for lemon curd: grated rind and juice of 4 lemons 4 eggs beaten 4oz butter (better with unsalted these days) 1lb Sugar Place in a double boiler and stir till sugar has dissolved. Cook until the curd will coat the back of a spoon Pot as jam. Does not keep long. Keep in the fridge if you prefer. In our house it doesn't get chance to get cold, never mind go off. Chris Roderick S. Yorks --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.561 / Virus Database: 353 - Release Date: 13/01/04