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    1. [ENG-DUR] Cap Badge
    2. relder
    3. Don't know if anyone can help I have an old photo of my Gt Uncle who was gassed in WW1. His Cap Badge is Laurel Leaf either side of a Lamb, with what looks like a Crown above it. Anyone any idea what Regiment it would be, he was a local lad from Birtley Co Durham. I know Birtley is now in Tyne & Wear, in 1914 it was in Co Durham Bob

    01/29/2004 05:54:46
    1. Re: [ENG-DUR] Cap Badge
    2. Peter Fellowes
    3. Hi again Bob, Thanks for the scan very interesting. The Regiment your Gt Uncle belonged to (well at the time of the photo, as it was not uncommon for wounded soldiers on being returned as fit for duty being posted to other regiments) is: The York and Lancaster Regiment Known as "The York and Lancs" for short, also nicknamed as "Cat and Cabbage" or "The Royal Tigers". The cap badge combines the Royal Tiger for distinguished service in India with the Union Rose for Lancaster and York. Granted in 1809. The Regiment disbanded in 1969. The York and Lancs started the war from a pre war regular establishment of 2 regular and 2 reserve battalions and ended the war with an establishment of 19 battalions. During the duration of the First World War they gained a total of 59 Battle Honours, they gained a total of 4 Victoria Crosses and suffered an estimated total casualty figure of 8,810 killed or missing. In the picture he is dressed in what is known as "Hospital Blues" and because of this you can be certain that he was in a hospital in England as opposed to, say in France. The uniform would have been Blue with White inside, a White shirt and Red Tie. The material of the uniform is a rough blanket like material. The cap he is wearing is what is known as 1914 pattern stiff cap. The patterns and styles of cap changed as the war went on. Hope this has been of some help, anything else please shout Best regards Peter Fellowes ----- Original Message ----- From: "relder" <relder@tiscali.co.uk> To: <ENG-DURHAM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 12:54 PM Subject: [ENG-DUR] Cap Badge > Don't know if anyone can help I have an old photo of my Gt Uncle who was gassed in WW1. His Cap Badge is Laurel Leaf either side of a Lamb, with what looks like a Crown above it. Anyone any idea what Regiment it would be, he was a local lad from Birtley Co Durham. I know Birtley is now in Tyne & Wear, in 1914 it was in Co Durham > Bob > > > ==== ENG-DURHAM Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe send the command unsubscribe to > ENG-DURHAM-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) > or ENG-DURHAM-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) > >

    01/29/2004 10:47:04
    1. Re: [ENG-DUR] Cap Badge
    2. david.williams4153
    3. Hello Peter, I was interested in this. I have no personal interest, but I was absolutely amazed at the information you were able to glean from a picture. Your knowledge makes me desperately want to have a picture that I could ask your advice on. Sadly, I do not have any. Excellent and interesting. thank you.david Williams in Essex ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Fellowes" <peter.fellowes@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-DURHAM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-DUR] Cap Badge > Hi again Bob, > Thanks for the scan very interesting. > The Regiment your Gt Uncle belonged to (well at the time of the photo, as it > was not uncommon for wounded soldiers on being returned as fit for duty > being posted to other regiments) is: > > The York and Lancaster Regiment > Known as "The York and Lancs" for short, also nicknamed as "Cat and Cabbage" > or "The Royal Tigers". > > The cap badge combines the Royal Tiger for distinguished service in India > with the Union Rose for Lancaster and York. Granted in 1809. The Regiment > disbanded in 1969. The York and Lancs started the war from a pre war regular > establishment of 2 regular and 2 reserve battalions and ended the war with > an establishment of 19 battalions. During the duration of the First World > War they gained a total of 59 Battle Honours, they gained a total of 4 > Victoria Crosses and suffered an estimated total casualty figure of 8,810 > killed or missing. > > In the picture he is dressed in what is known as "Hospital Blues" and > because of this you can be certain that he was in a hospital in England as > opposed to, say in France. The uniform would have been Blue with White > inside, a White shirt and Red Tie. The material of the uniform is a rough > blanket like material. The cap he is wearing is what is known as 1914 > pattern stiff cap. The patterns and styles of cap changed as the war went > on. > > Hope this has been of some help, anything else please shout > > Best regards > Peter Fellowes > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "relder" <relder@tiscali.co.uk> > To: <ENG-DURHAM-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 12:54 PM > Subject: [ENG-DUR] Cap Badge > > > > Don't know if anyone can help I have an old photo of my Gt Uncle who was > gassed in WW1. His Cap Badge is Laurel Leaf either side of a Lamb, with what > looks like a Crown above it. Anyone any idea what Regiment it would be, he > was a local lad from Birtley Co Durham. I know Birtley is now in Tyne & > Wear, in 1914 it was in Co Durham > > Bob > > > > > > ==== ENG-DURHAM Mailing List ==== > > To unsubscribe send the command unsubscribe to > > ENG-DURHAM-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) > > or ENG-DURHAM-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode.) > > > > > > > ==== ENG-DURHAM Mailing List ==== > Browse the ENG-DURHAM archives http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/eng-durham > >

    01/29/2004 01:23:58