In a message dated 14/05/2007 19:37:40 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Hi Can anyone help me with a problem I have a JOHN WESTGARTH D.O.B. ABT 1821 Parents WILLIAM & JANE on the 1851 census he is at home living with his parents then he disappears. He then turns up on the 1881 census living in UNION WORKHOUSE occupation TRIMMER ART could anyone explain the above to me also any information on where he could have been for 30 years Thank you Jan If you are using Ancestry.com for the censuses it might be worth trying alternative spellings of the surname - it could easily have been misspelt either on the original image or in the transcription. I get a lot of that on Ancestry, useful though it is. Are the parents still alive in 1861 or 1871? -- Mike Stone - Peterborough, England For the strength of the Hills we bless, thee, Our God, our fathers' God. Thou hast made thy children mighty, By the touch of the mountain sod. Thou hast led thy chosen Israel, To freedom's last abode. For the strength of the hills we bless, thee, Our God, our fathers' God. (Hymns of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints; No 35)