For those of who assisted, the Murphy family have agreed to search both the Scottish Census & to obtain the birth cert of James Joseph Murphy in an effort to solve the mystery of this elusive grandfather. So far the 1871 Scot Census reveals that the birth place of James J Murphy was Durham, England, not Turhone, England as in the transcription by Ancestry suggests. Quite clear and unambiguous. Now for the birth cert from the GRO, lets hope that his mother's maiden name is Jordan. Regards, Alan Elliott Torquay, Victoria, Australia