Hi there, I tried to enter Bishops Transcripts as you mentioned below, and had no luck finding the Marriage of George Wastell...I then entered some of my own Family Members that are definitely on IGI, and had no luck there..The system has changed, and the map of the world doesn`t show...Can anyone check it again, and hopefully tell me where I am going wrong... Regards Fred.. ----- Original Message ----- From: <eng-durham-request@rootsweb.com> To: <eng-durham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:01 AM Subject: ENG-DURHAM Digest, Vol 4, Issue 155 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Sadberge Marriage, Geo. Wastell (jennifer De Angelis) > 2. Obituary Emily Frances WILKIN died January 16. 1930 (Pam Lewin) > 3. re ordering certificates from the British GRO to Canada > (Janet Hopkins) > 4. Re: re ordering certificates from the British GRO to Canada > (Thatcher) > 5. Re: re ordering certificates from the British GRO to Canada > (Janet Hopkins) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 12:56:20 +0200 > From: "jennifer De Angelis" <jennyda2@gmail.com> > Subject: [ENG-DURHAM] Sadberge Marriage, Geo. Wastell > To: "Bruce Moorhouse" <brucemoorhouse@sympatico.ca>, > <eng-durham@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <9CD02FF7227147E482531CFD0C0049AA@jennyPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Bruce, > > You asked about the marriage in 1777 between George Wastell & Jane White > at > Sadberge that you say you found in the IGI. That entry in the IGI is a > Patron Submission and not something extracted from the parish registers > for > Sadberge. So you do need to treat that information with caution, it could > be something that the Patron in question invented to fit what he needed in > order to carry out the LDS ordinances for the dead. It could also be that > the patron did find an entry in the parish register for Sadberge but you > can't be sure of that. > > The IGI is full of such patron submissions, the secret is to look at the > entry in the IGI carefully and see what the line "Messages" says. If it > says something like the details were part of an extraction programme then > that means the LDS will have extracted those details from the film of the > relevant parish registers, or Bishop's Transcripts, and you can trust the > details a little more than if the messages line says the details were > submitted by a patron of the LDS church. The line in that marriage > entry > entitled Source Details says there are no source details, another clue to > show you that it was not something taken from an LDS film. > > Sadberge BTs are included in the Record Search Pilot section of the > familysearch site for years 1762-1859. Go to the familysearch site, look > along the top of the page for Search Records and click there to give you > the > drop down list. Then select Recrod Search Pilot. Once there ignore the > initial search pane and click on the link below it "Browse our Record > Collection" this will bring up a map of the world so click on Europe. > Then > from the resultant list of items select "England Diocese of Durham Bishop > Transcripts etc.," You will then find a list of the Counties included in > those BTs, selecting Durham will give you a list of parishes including > Sadberge. If you find the marriage you are looking for in those BTs you > can > save or print the page as you like. I did not find the marriage for George > Wastell and Jane White 1777 in those Sadberge BTs. > > You might find other entries in the Sadberge BTs., to interest you. but be > warned, these BTs are not indexed and you have to go through them page by > page, unless you make a guess at whereabouts in the run of BTs the year > you > want might fall. For example the Sadberge BTs consist of 228 images > beginnig in 1762, so you need to go forward several pages to reach 1777. > You > can change the image number on the screen to take you forward, or back, or > you can just use the forward and back arrows to skim through the images. > > Having read George's reply to you about the marriage Bond and Allegation I > looked at the Haughton Le Skerne BTs. Page 29 of these BTs contains a > very > few marriages between March 1777 to March 1778 but not the one you want, > 1st marriage noted is April 1st 1777 the next is May 13th 1777 as these > are > both written on the same page, listed one after the other, it cannot be > the > case that there is a page of BTs missing from the set. I think you will > need to try other parishes starting nearby, perhaps a Darlington parish or > something. Darlington St. cuthbert BTs are included in this record search > pilot section of familysearch. > > The marriage of George Wastell to Mary Wrangham that George Nicholson > pointed out to you in 1779 appears on the Haughton Le Skerne BTs page 32. > > I did spot the burial 26th. January 1778 of Jane wife of George Wastell > Farmer in those Sadberge BTs, page 16. This is all the information given > in > the entry but if you wanted to you could save or print the page for your > records. > > Regards > Jenny DeAngelis > Spain. > > <<I had the dates for the marriage through the IGI and it showed the > parish > register the date was taken from. What I was want was something that > confirmed what the IGI was saying for as you know you can't always trust > it..>> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 14:40:57 -0700 > From: Pam Lewin <pamlewin@islandnet.com> > Subject: [ENG-DURHAM] Obituary Emily Frances WILKIN died January 16. > 1930 > To: ENG-DURHAM@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <200909152134.n8FLYej7020477@mail.rootsweb.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > > Would SKS on this list kindly look up the obituary for my great > grandmother Emily Frances WILKIN who died January 16, 1930 at 21 > North Terrace, Newcastle Upon Tyne? > > Thank you, > > Pam Lewin > Victoria, BC > Canada > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 20:41:12 -0400 > From: Janet Hopkins <janetchopkins@hotmail.com> > Subject: [ENG-DURHAM] re ordering certificates from the British GRO to > Canada > To: Durham List <eng-durham-l@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <COL106-W60C6B0ED2CDC87B2A553A5B0E20@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > > > > > > Hi Listers, > Has anyone else has had difficulties receiving certificates from the GRO? > I > ordered two online with my visa, confirmation came, including price paid > for two, > and then one certificate arrived promptly weeks ago and the other not at > all. > I found the British phone number on the site, but it doesn't work from > Canada. I have > emailed them with no response, and I'm at a loss about what to do. Can > anyone advise? > Janet Hopkins > > _________________________________________________________________ > Click less, chat more: Messenger on MSN.ca > http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9677404 > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:07:58 -0700 > From: "Thatcher" <thatchd@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [ENG-DURHAM] re ordering certificates from the British > GRO to Canada > To: "'Janet Hopkins'" <janetchopkins@hotmail.com>, "'Durham List'" > <eng-durham-l@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <AE5C92EC12D845589FEA2D410686756E@Thatcher> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I am waiting for one I ordered mid-August which is taking longer than > normal; however, they did post the following announcement on their > website: > > "Service Announcement - Tuesday 8 September 2009 > The General Register Office are currently experiencing high levels of > requests for certificates. Although every effort is being made to despatch > all orders on time, you may experience an additional one day delay in > receiving your certificate(s). We apologise for any inconvenience this may > cause. Please note that our Priority Service is not affected and all > priority orders continue to be despatched on time." > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-durham-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-durham-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Janet Hopkins > Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 5:41 PM > To: Durham List > Subject: [ENG-DURHAM] re ordering certificates from the British GRO to > Canada > > Hi Listers, > Has anyone else has had difficulties receiving certificates from the GRO? > I > > ordered two online with my visa, confirmation came, including price paid > for > two, > and then one certificate arrived promptly weeks ago and the other not at > all. > I found the British phone number on the site, but it doesn't work from > Canada. I have > emailed them with no response, and I'm at a loss about what to do. Can > anyone advise? > Janet Hopkins > > _________________________________________________________________ > Click less, chat more: Messenger on MSN.ca > http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9677404 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-DURHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 21:17:37 -0400 > From: Janet Hopkins <janetchopkins@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [ENG-DURHAM] re ordering certificates from the British > GRO to Canada > To: <clylyk@telus.net>, Durham List <eng-durham-l@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <COL106-W38A45947A2A761AFB0B155B0E20@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > Hi Carol, > I knew you have to add the country code, 011 then 44, then the number, but > it looks like I may need to take out that > zero that is before the rest of the number. > Thanks for the tip! > Janet in Milton, Ont. > >> From: clylyk@telus.net >> To: janetchopkins@hotmail.com >> Subject: Re: [ENG-DURHAM] re ordering certificates from the British GRO >> to Canada >> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:57:26 -0600 >> >> Hi Janet, >> Did you put in the Country code for England? I have a cousin whose >> telephone number shows as 01 709 585938 but what I have to do >> is dial 011 - 44 -170 958 5839. Hope that makes sense. I haven't >> looked up the GRO telephone number so can't tell you what it >> would be. >> >> Carol >> Calgary >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Janet Hopkins" <janetchopkins@hotmail.com> >> To: "Durham List" <eng-durham-l@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 6:41 PM >> Subject: [ENG-DURHAM] re ordering certificates from the British GRO to >> Canada >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Hi Listers, >> > Has anyone else has had difficulties receiving certificates from the >> > GRO? I >> > ordered two online with my visa, confirmation came, including price >> > paid for two, >> > and then one certificate arrived promptly weeks ago and the other not >> > at all. >> > I found the British phone number on the site, but it doesn't work from >> > Canada. I have >> > emailed them with no response, and I'm at a loss about what to do. Can >> > anyone advise? >> > Janet Hopkins >> > >> > _________________________________________________________________ >> > Click less, chat more: Messenger on MSN.ca >> > http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9677404 >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > ENG-DURHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > New! 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Go to http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/#p=0 Stan Mapstone -----Original Message----- From: Fred Roberts <derf2134@cox.net> To: eng-durham@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:59 Subject: Re: [ENG-DURHAM] ENG-DURHAM Digest, Vol 4, Issue 155 The system has changed, and the map of the world doesn`t show...Can anyone check it again, and hopefully tell me where I am going wrong... Regards Fred..

Hi Fred, Go back to the Record Search Pilot and ignore the Search box that comes up but look below it to where there is a tiny magnifiying glass with the word Browse our Record Collection,. click there and you should see the map of the world and be able to click on Europe. I did say to do this in my original message to Bruce the other day. Hope this helps Jenny DeAngelis Spain. <<> I tried to enter Bishops Transcripts as you mentioned below, and had no > luck finding the Marriage of George Wastell...I then entered some of my > own Family Members that are definitely on IGI, and had no luck there..The > system has changed, and the map of the world doesn`t show...Can anyone > check it again, and hopefully tell me where I am going wrong... > Regards Fred..>> << Go to the familysearch site, look >> along the top of the page for Search Records and click there to give you >> the >> drop down list. Then select Recrod Search Pilot. Once there ignore the >> initial search pane and click on the link below it "Browse our Record >> Collection" this will bring up a map of the world so click on Europe. >>