In a message dated 27/06/2009 09:23:55 GMT Daylight Time, watsonb@iinet.com.au writes: would SKS have the Bishopwearmouth BT's I have a marriage of Henry Clough and Ann Barrass that I would like to know more about. Where is Bishopwearmouth? The family seemed to be centred around Kelloe, Cohoe and Haswell then disappear after the 1851 census. Their daughter Margaret was born in Kelloe in 1839 and they were 1841 census at Coxhoe then 1851 census were at Haswell. Margaret and brother James migrated to Australia in 1856 Marilyn: Bishopwearmouth BTs should be freely available on-line from the Mormon web site, just as are BTs for the rest of Co Durham. However, why seek the BTs? The original parish registers are kept in Durham County Record Office, where the staff will search them for you at a reasonable rate. Bishopwearmouth is one of the two original (later three) parishes which made up the centre of the modern city of Sunderland. Bishopwearmouth was originally the distrfict close to the mouth of the River Wear which lay on the south side of the river. Opposite it was Monkwearmouth, where there was a famous pre-conquest monastery, and which became the centre of a parish of that name. On the Bishopwearmouth (south) side, at the very tip of the land at the actual river-mouth, there was a small fishing community which developed into a place called Sunderland. Sunderland got its own church in 1719, though it remained, as a Parochial Chapelry, part of the parish of Bishopwearmouth. When the population boomed in the 19th century, all those parishes became divided into others, and the influence of Sunderland grew so great that the whole of the merged town became known by that name. Nowadays it has spread itself for many miles inland, such that even Washington, some 6/7/8 miles away, is part of what is now known as the City of Sunderland. Kelloe, Coxhoe (don't omit the "x"!) and Haswell are all former large pit villages further south in Co Durham. Miners moved around quite a lot and it would be not at all unusual for one family to have lived in all those places at different times. Sunderland itself was much more than a pit village. It had many different industries, of which the main one was ship-building. There was some exporting of coal, however, from staithes (the jetties at the ends of dedicated colliery railways) in Bishopwearmouth, and also one large mine, opened c1850, in Monkwearmouth. That one was one of the last north-east pits to close, in the early 1990s, and its site is now the "Stadium of Light", the only Premiership Professional Football Stadium left in the north-east of England. Geoff Nicholson

I am looking for any information on CAROLINE WALTON nee RIPPON, who was born in 1870 in Truro, Cornwall, England. She moved to Durham, England with her parents WILLIAM and ELIZA RIPPON, before the 1881 census. She married ISAAC WALTON, 18th August, 1889 at St. Catherine's Church, Parish of Crook, Co. Durham. ISAAC and CAROLINE had four known children:- JOHN, ELIZA JANE, ISAAC, and JAMES WILLIAM who was born 4th March 1894 at 28 Woodifield Rows, Crook, Druham. So far I have not found this family on the 1891 census even though I have used variants of the surname WALTON. On the 1901 census I have ISAAC WALTON listed as a widower, occupation Singer Sewing Machine agent. He is living with his son JAMES WILLIAM age 7 and his widowed mother, JANE. ELIZA JANE is living with CAROLINE'S sister Lily Johnson, on the 1901 census. I am also interested in finding the death date of CAROLINE WALTON which was probably between 1894 and 1901. My efforts so far have come up short. Any help with this brick wall would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Irene Mawdsley, Ontario, Canada. _________________________________________________________________ We are your photos. Share us now with Windows Live Photos. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9666047

Hi, I think I may have found the marriage of Henry Clough to Alice Barrass in 1 Mar 1828 at Bishopwearmouth St Michael Durham. Alice was supposedly born at Heaton Northumberland from the 1851 census. Alice was born c 1805 while Henry Clough was born 1800. I have the 1841 census and the 1851 census (without Henry) Would he have been down the mine when the census was on.Did they count the men down the mine working, at all. His sons Michael, Henry and Matthew all died in the 1844 Haswell disaster. I haven't been able to find the family in the 1861 census at all. I know Margaret 17 and James 15, two of their children came to Australia in 1856/1857 so don't know whether the parents were dead at this stage or not If any one could help I certainly would appreciate some advice Many thanks Cheers Marilyn

In a message dated 26/06/2009 11:02:57 GMT Daylight Time, watsonb@iinet.com.au writes: I have the 1841 census and the 1851 census (without Henry) Would he have been down the mine when the census was on.Did they count the men down the mine working, at all. In all British censuses anyone at work overnight on census night would be enumerated at their usual place of abode - ie at home. Most workplaces therefore do not even have a census return for them, as one would only be needed if it was also the home of someone such as a caretaker etc. Anyone "missing" from home in the census must have been away elsewhere, on a visit. Some were elsewhere in connection with their work or business, such as those farmers who were gathered in Durham City for a cattle fair in the 1851 census. You could try the houses of close relatives in case they were visiting there. Family birthdays, weddings, funerals etc could all be reasons for someone spending a few days on a visit, but if it was the main breadwinner of a family then they would need to have had a very serious reason to take time off work, unpaid, just to visit a friend. You could try local institutions such as a hospital, if the person might have been injured in a dangerous job such as mining, or a workhouse if he might have retired before falling ill. Prisons and lunatic asylums (as ahywhere dealing witih mental illness was then called) all need to be looked at. Geoff Nicholson

Hi It was a marriage in 1921 of an Elizabeth Charlton to a Thomas G Charlton There is this birth Mary J Charlton Mother's Maiden Surname: Charlton Date of Registration: Jul Aug Sep 1921 Registration district: Stockton Registration county: Durham Volume Number: 10a Page Number: 185 <http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&f1=&f0=&=&f22=&rg_f8__d ate=1921&rs_f8__date=0&f4=10a&f5=185&f3=&f17=&f2=&gskw=&prox=1&db=onsbirth84 &ti=0&ti.si=0&gl=&gss=rfs&gst=&so=3> Been on BDM site as i have a second marriage of one of my ancestors .His name was Thomas Charlton born 1871 stockton.He wed in 1921 stockton , durham to an Elizabeth jane . Im puzzled as to her surname so i looked on BDM site it has her surname as "Charlton" also went on Middlesbrough indexes same surname "Charlton" . Now Charlton would be her married name so is it possible he married a Charlton too.Usually BDM gives maiden name and the indexes . sue

Hi Sue Cousin marriages are far from uncommon, there is also a chance married his brother widow or it a pure coincidence, it did happen The cert should clarify things as it should state her maiden name if CHARLTON wasn't it, it should also state their respective fathers which should help identify them Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi , > > Been on BDM site as i have a second marriage of one of my ancestors .His > name was Thomas Charlton born 1871 stockton.He wed in 1921 stockton , > durham > to an Elizabeth jane . > > Im puzzled as to her surname so i looked on BDM site it has her surname as > "Charlton" also went on Middlesbrough indexes same surname "Charlton" . > > Now Charlton would be her married name so is it possible he married a > Charlton too.Usually BDM gives maiden name and the indexes . > > sue

Hi , Been on BDM site as i have a second marriage of one of my ancestors .His name was Thomas Charlton born 1871 stockton.He wed in 1921 stockton , durham to an Elizabeth jane . Im puzzled as to her surname so i looked on BDM site it has her surname as "Charlton" also went on Middlesbrough indexes same surname "Charlton" . Now Charlton would be her married name so is it possible he married a Charlton too.Usually BDM gives maiden name and the indexes . sue

There is this birth Mary J Charlton Mother's Maiden Surname: Charlton Date of Registration: Jul Aug Sep 1921 Registration district: Stockton Registration county: Durham Volume Number: 10a Page Number: 185 Stan Mapstone -----Original Message----- From: Sue Horn <sue.horn@ntlworld.com> To: ENG-DURHAM-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:59 Subject: Re: [ENG-DURHAM] BDM querie Hi It was a marriage in 1921 of an Elizabeth Charlton to a Thomas G Charlton There is this birth Mary J Charlton Mother's Maiden Surname: Charlton Date of Registration: Jul Aug Sep 1921 Registration district: Stockton Registration county: Durham Volume Number: 10a Page Number: 185 <http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&f1=&f0=&=&f22=&rg_f8__d ate=1921&rs_f8__date=0&f4=10a&f5=185&f3=&f17=&f2=&gskw=&prox=1&db=onsbirth84 &ti=0&ti.si=0&gl=&gss=rfs&gst=&so=3> Been on BDM site as i have a second marriage of one of my ancestors .His name was Thomas Charlton born 1871 stockton.He wed in 1921 stockton , durham to an Elizabeth jane . Im puzzled as to her surname so i looked on BDM site it has her surname as "Charlton" also went on Middlesbrough indexes same surname "Charlton" . Now Charlton would be her married name so is it possible he married a Charlton too.Usually BDM gives maiden name and the indexes . sue ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-DURHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today.

In a message dated 6/25/2009 11:41:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, sue.horn@ntlworld.com writes: Elizabeth jane . JANE is a surname as well as a given name. It's possible it was her surname. Bob McKeon USA **************Make your summer sizzle with fast and easy recipes for the grill. (http://food.aol.com/grilling?ncid=emlcntusfood00000006)

Hi, I hope SKS may be able to do a look up to see if they can find Henry Clough and hopefully his wife Alace (Alice) on the 1841 census Henry probably born c 1801 married Alace children Thomas born Haswell c 1837, Margaret born c1840 Haswell, James born c 1842 Haswell and Alace born 1845 Haswell. Their mother was Alace, born I think Heaton Northumberland in 1805. The family are at Haswell 1851 census not sure if Alace is a widow or not. I don't know where Henry is then Thomas is a coal miner As you can see I don't know much so would be grateful for any assistance Many thanks cheers Marilyn

Hi Pat, I have a George W Parkinson b1854 in Seaton Carew, Hartlepool, living with his mother, father and siblings in James Street, Hartlepool at the time of the 1861 census. His father Benjamin was born in Stockton. Do you have any more information/dates regarding the individuals you are asking about? Regards... David Allan. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Twohills" <twohills@activ8.net.au> To: <eng-durham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 9:49 AM Subject: [ENG-DURHAM] PARKINSON > Hello all, > I am researching the family of Joseph Thomas PARKINSON son of James > Clement PARKINSON. In Stockton or Hartlepool > Is there anyone out there with this family in their tree? > Pat > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-DURHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello all, I am researching the family of Joseph Thomas PARKINSON son of James Clement PARKINSON. In Stockton or Hartlepool Is there anyone out there with this family in their tree? Pat

My grandfather, as a child, circa 1890, lived in The Shamrock Inn, Catherine Street, Spennymoor. It seems the street was a busy commercial area but has long since gone. I am trying to get as much information as possible, have checked many sites - Can anyone help with an old photograph of this street? Many Thanks Mike in Saudi

In a message dated 19/06/2009 14:34:16 GMT Daylight Time, jtwalton13@comcast.net writes: On the 1881 census for Tanfield Parish, Town, Village or Hamlet of "Tobson (?) Colliery", Page 24, I have found family of Robert Stewart in No. 105, no street or road named. Head of family is listed as a Coke Drawer, and a son as a Coal Miner. My question is: Would this be a miner's row of houses, owned by the company? Is there any trace of this address left in this village? Hobson (with an "H" at the start) is still a district north of Tanfield village, between Tanfield and Burnopfield. If the address had no specific street name, just "105 Hobson Colliery", then it would almost certainly have been a pit village, with all the houses owned by the colliery company and employment at the pit being a condition of tenancy of the houses. The Durham Colliery Museum web-site should have a good deal of information about Hobson Colliery. Tanfield village itself has never been a pit village and today has a rural, agricultural, air, even though it is surrounded by old colliery sites and by former colliery villages, or the sites of them. Geoff Nicholson

In a message dated 19/06/2009 13:37:01 GMT Daylight Time, mjc@teacher.com writes: My grandfather, as a child, circa 1890, lived in The Shamrock Inn, Catherine Street, Spennymoor. It seems the street was a busy commercial area but has long since gone. I am trying to get as much information as possible, have checked many sites - Can anyone help with an old photograph of this street? Many Thanks Mike in Saudi _________________________________________________________________________ Durham County Council on line shop has "Spennymoor Remembered Book 5", and "Public Houses of Spennymoor and Neighbourhood" http://preview.tinyurl.com/nv98el Stan Mapstone

On the 1881 census for Tanfield Parish, Town, Village or Hamlet of "Tobson (?) Colliery", Page 24, I have found family of Robert Stewart in No. 105, no street or road named. Head of family is listed as a Coke Drawer, and a son as a Coal Miner. My question is: Would this be a miner's row of houses, owned by the company? Is there any trace of this address left in this village? Many thanks, Jeannette Florida

If you go to the main page for the Rootsweb site you will be able to click on the heading Mailing Lists in the toolbar and then search for a list for whatever county you like and find relevant mailing lists for that county and sometimes for places within a given county. www.rootsweb.com is the place to start. Another site that is useful if the Genuki site www.genuki.org.uk You will find a lot of useful information set out by County here and under the heading Genealogy on each county page you will find links to the relevant mailing lists and Family History Societies which will both be of help to you. Regards Jenny DeAngelis Spain. <<Could someone send us the address to any YORKSHIRE site similar to this please.>>

Hello Listers, DURHAM Look up please We have this family with a two children born in Tow Law Durham could anyone find their births and christenings please. 1 - In 1881 Henry Greenall aged 43 (1838) born St Helens a Coal Miner is married to Margery (nee Farrimond) aged 41 (1840) born Blackrod they have 8 children at home Thomas aged 19 (1862) born Blackrod a Coal Miner, John aged 16 (1865) born Tow Law Durham a Drawer Coal Mine, Mary A aged 14 (1867) born Tow Law Durham a Tenter Cotton Mill, Elizabeth aged 11 (1870) born Blackrod a scholar, Catherine aged 9 (1872) born Blackrod, Margery aged 6 (1875) born Blackrod a scholar, Henry aged 4 (1877) born Blackrod, and Alice aged 1 (1880) born Blackrod the family address is - Folds, Blackrod, Lancashire RG11, 3761, 24, 41, 1341900. Many thanks Regards Bronwen and David

Hello, I am searching for the death of Thomas Calvert who was born about 1794 in Yorkshire, lived in Westmorland and finally in County Durham. He married Jane Birbeck in 1818 in Brough under Stainton, Westmorland. The family is listed in the 1851 Census of Auckland. Thomas is still living according to that Census. From his son, Robert's marriage in 1859, Thomas, as the groom's father, is listed as deceased. We have sent for 4 death certificates from Auckland and Teesdale for Thomas Calvert. None are our "Thomas Calvert". I am looking for suggestions on how to narrow down more choices so that I can get the proper death certificate. It is very frustrating (and getting costly) when we cannot see the registration before hand to make sure we have the correct person. I live in Canada so I have to rely on the death registrations. Any help great appreciated. Sincerely, Carol Small

Hi David All lists can be found at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ Select mailing lists from the top menu bar Enter the place name in the find a mailing list box Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) PS its best to post to individual lists as crossposting can causes problems for admins > Hello Listers, > > Could someone send us the address to any YORKSHIRE site similar to this > please. > > Regards > > Bronwen and David