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    1. [ENG-DURHAM] Isabella PURDOM/PURDUM/PURDHAM in 1851
    2. George Carter
    3. I`m on the look out for Isabella PURDOM/PURDUM/PURDHAM or possibly another variant in 1851 I`ve got her in the 1841 census when she is at home with her father John in Newbrough, Northumberland and I`ve got her in 1861 and after when she is with Jonathan PEARSON who she later marries. But up to now she`s proving elusive in 1851 which may be down to a name variant which I haven`t got around to yet. Thanks for any help. George Carter in Whaley Bridge.

    07/21/2009 06:59:15
    1. [ENG-DURHAM] TOW LAW DURHAM - LOOK UP PLEASE
    2. David Hughlock
    3. Hello Listers, DURHAM Look up please We have this family with a two children born in Tow Law Durham could anyone find their births and christenings please. 1 - In 1881 Henry Greenall aged 43 (1838) born St Helens a Coal Miner is married to Margery (nee Farrimond) aged 41 (1840) born Blackrod they have 8 children at home Thomas aged 19 (1862) born Blackrod a Coal Miner, John aged 16 (1865) born Tow Law Durham a Drawer Coal Mine, Mary A aged 14 (1867) born Tow Law Durham a Tenter Cotton Mill, Elizabeth aged 11 (1870) born Blackrod a scholar, Catherine aged 9 (1872) born Blackrod, Margery aged 6 (1875) born Blackrod a scholar, Henry aged 4 (1877) born Blackrod, and Alice aged 1 (1880) born Blackrod the family address is - Folds, Blackrod, Lancashire RG11, 3761, 24, 41, 1341900. Many thanks Regards Bronwen and David

    07/21/2009 03:42:38
    1. Re: [ENG-DURHAM] Trindon House
    2. George Carter
    3. Thanks for all the addtioinal information. My gt gran had died in 1897 in Sedgefield Asylum, I did manage to find her in the 1891 census. She was E C (Eliza Carter) born in Chelmsford. The Chelmsford birthplace helped me there. She spent 18 months at Trimdon House was then transferred back to the Asylum where she died 1 month later. I`m not surprised to see patients moved like this for health reasons. One move has me puzzled. In 1891 she was moved to Fisherton House in Salisbury, Four years later she is moved back to the Sedgefield Asylum. She was born in Chelmsford Essex and if she had been moved somewhere near there I could understand it, but the move to Salisbury seems really odd. I don`t know where Fisherton House was in Salisbury but it was maybe 150 miles from Cheldsford. Thanks once again Stan, for your help.Good luck with your own research. George ________________________________ From: Stan Mapstone <stanmapstone@aol.com> To: eng-durham@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, 17 July, 2009 4:17:56 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-DURHAM] Trindon House There were 31 patients in Trimdon House in the 1901 Census. RG13/4631/57/16 Stan Mapstone -----Original Message----- From: Stan Mapstone <stanmapstone@aol.com> To: stanmapstone@aol.com; eng-durham@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:05 Subject: Re: [ENG-DURHAM] Trindon House It is Trimdon House. It is in the 1901 Census as Asylum Trimdon House, Civil Parish Fishburn, Ecclesiastical Parish Sedgefield. Stan Mapstone ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-DURHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/17/2009 09:45:34
    1. Re: [ENG-DURHAM] Trindon House
    2. George Carter
    3. Stan your a jewel. That sounds right to me. I did have a suspicion that I didn`t have the correct spelling. The additional information on the Dr Smith is useful and makes sense. Thanks a lot and all the best. George ________________________________ From: Stan Mapstone <stanmapstone@aol.com> To: eng-durham@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, 17 July, 2009 3:48:46 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-DURHAM] Trindon House I think it should be Trimdon House which was the residence of Dr. Smith of Sedgefield Asylum in the 189os Stan Mapstone -----Original Message----- From: George Carter <gacarter@btinternet.com> To: eng-durham@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:19 Subject: [ENG-DURHAM] Trindon House Can anyone enlighten tell me anything about Trindon? House, which seems to be associated with the Sedgefield Assylum and Darlington Workhouse in the 1890s. It`s mentioned in regard to my gt gran who had been moved there, possibly to recover from an illnes. George Carter in Whaley Bridge. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-DURHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-DURHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/17/2009 09:05:23
    1. [ENG-DURHAM] Trindon House
    2. George Carter
    3. Can anyone enlighten tell me anything about Trindon? House, which seems to be associated with the Sedgefield Assylum and Darlington Workhouse in the 1890s. It`s mentioned in regard to my gt gran who had been moved there, possibly to recover from an illnes. George Carter in Whaley Bridge.

    07/17/2009 08:19:48
    1. Re: [ENG-DURHAM] Trindon House
    2. Stan Mapstone
    3. There were 31 patients in Trimdon House in the 1901 Census. RG13/4631/57/16 Stan Mapstone -----Original Message----- From: Stan Mapstone <stanmapstone@aol.com> To: stanmapstone@aol.com; eng-durham@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:05 Subject: Re: [ENG-DURHAM] Trindon House It is Trimdon House. It is in the 1901 Census as Asylum Trimdon House, Civil Parish Fishburn, Ecclesiastical Parish Sedgefield. Stan Mapstone ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today.

    07/17/2009 05:17:56
    1. Re: [ENG-DURHAM] Trindon House
    2. Stan Mapstone
    3. It is Trimdon House. It is in the 1901 Census as Asylum Trimdon House, Civil Parish Fishburn, Ecclesiastical Parish Sedgefield. Stan Mapstone -----Original Message----- From: Stan Mapstone <stanmapstone@aol.com> To: eng-durham@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:48 Subject: Re: [ENG-DURHAM] Trindon House I think it should be Trimdon House which was the residence of Dr. Smith of Sedgefield Asylum in the 189os Stan Mapstone -----Original Message----- From: George Carter <gacarter@btinternet.com> To: eng-durham@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:19 Subject: [ENG-DURHAM] Trindon House Can anyone enlighten tell me anything about Trindon? House, which seems to be associated with the Sedgefield Assylum and Darlington Workhouse in the 1890s. It`s mentioned in regard to my gt gran who had been moved there, possibly to recover from an illnes. George Carter in Whaley Bridge. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-DURHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-DURHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today.

    07/17/2009 05:05:36
    1. Re: [ENG-DURHAM] Trindon House
    2. Stan Mapstone
    3. I think it should be Trimdon House which was the residence of Dr. Smith of Sedgefield Asylum in the 189os Stan Mapstone -----Original Message----- From: George Carter <gacarter@btinternet.com> To: eng-durham@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:19 Subject: [ENG-DURHAM] Trindon House Can anyone enlighten tell me anything about Trindon? House, which seems to be associated with the Sedgefield Assylum and Darlington Workhouse in the 1890s. It`s mentioned in regard to my gt gran who had been moved there, possibly to recover from an illnes. George Carter in Whaley Bridge. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-DURHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today.

    07/17/2009 04:48:46
    1. Re: [ENG-DURHAM] Researching Rickards, Morris, Ridings, Taylor, Erwin, Pentland, Fenwick & Croston families
    2. Nivard Ovington
    3. Hi Sandee Any information on what ? If you mean the names in the subject line I suspect some dates (years at least) and places would help others to help you None of the names are particularly unusual I have FENWICK myself but as there are many thousands of them it would be a surprise if they were connected but without some information theres no way of telling Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) PS its best to use capitals for surnames as it differentiates them from place names > Any information would be appreciated. > > Sandee

    07/16/2009 08:10:39
    1. Re: [ENG-DURHAM] Researching Rickards, Morris, Ridings, Taylor, Erwin, Pentla...
    2. In a message dated 16/07/2009 13:56:55 GMT Daylight Time, snielander@eeenterprises.net writes: Any information would be appreciated. Sandee Sandee: It would help us a great deal, as well as improve your chances of getting a meaningful reply, if you were to tell us something of what you already know about these families. Lets say, all the details you have of the earliest known (by you) member of them. Full names, dates, even if approximate, and places (parish, town, registration district or whatever) and occupations at some particular time, would all be potentially useful if you know them. As usual with any list of surnames, some of those you mention (eg Morris, Taylor and Fenwick) are very common in this region, while others are not so, at least not to the same extent. Geoff Nicholson

    07/16/2009 07:07:34
    1. [ENG-DURHAM] Researching Rickards, Morris, Ridings, Taylor, Erwin, Pentland, Fenwick & Croston families
    2. Sandee Nielander
    3. Any information would be appreciated. Sandee -----Original Message----- From: eng-durham-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-durham-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of eng-durham-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 3:02 AM To: eng-durham@rootsweb.com Subject: ENG-DURHAM Digest, Vol 4, Issue 123

    07/16/2009 02:56:05
    1. [ENG-DURHAM] Looking for HUGHES & KNOX families
    2. Irene Wells
    3. I would like to contact living relatives of the above families. My father’s mother was a Hughes, and her mother was a Knox. Billy Hughes, a boxer, is/was a member of the family. Sincerely, Irene Wells née White.

    07/15/2009 10:33:45
    1. [ENG-DURHAM] Help with Chapman family from KELLOE
    2. Val
    3. Hi List, Can anyone help with my Chapmans? Robert Chapman b 1782 and twins John and Hannah b 1786 all in Kelloe, Durham. I know their Christening dates and who their parents were (George and Sarah, and when they were married George was curate of Kelloe) What I am trying to find out is if any of them married or any information about them as they are such a common name. Any help will be most appreciated Regards Val

    07/11/2009 11:27:36
    1. Re: [ENG-DURHAM] Help with Chapman family from KELLOE
    2. This is the only Chapman I have. Maybe it will come in handy later. Good luck, Bob McKeon **************Summer concert season is here! Find your favorite artists on tour at TourTracker.com. (http://www.tourtracker.com/?ncid=emlcntusmusi00000006)

    07/11/2009 07:10:52
    1. Re: [ENG-DURHAM] Maiden Name or Formerly
    2. jennifer De Angelis
    3. HI Peter, If it were me, I would now try to find the marriage for the parents and see what surname that gives for the bride, and what marital status it shows for her. If she was a widow at that time then she should be shown with her former married name and not her maiden name. But you should, hopefuly, get her fathers name giving his surname, and his occupation, which should be her maiden name, unless she had been born illegitimately and didn't know her fathers name. You could then perhaps try to find her in the censuses. Regards Jenny DeAngelis Spain. <<My thanks to all who took the time to kindly reply to my recent question regarding a Maiden Name. So I think now that all things being equal that I should take it that formerly means to be a maiden name however thanks to others who pointed out that caution should be taken as there may be the odd pitfall ahead. Thanks again to all for the replies.>>

    07/10/2009 05:26:49
    1. [ENG-DURHAM] Maiden Name or Formerly
    2. Peter Fellowes
    3. Greetings to all. My thanks to all who took the time to kindly reply to my recent question regarding a Maiden Name. So I think now that all things being equal that I should take it that formerly means to be a maiden name however thanks to others who pointed out that caution should be taken as there may be the odd pitfall ahead. Thanks again to all for the replies. Regards to all Peter Fellowes

    07/09/2009 02:32:41
    1. Re: [ENG-DURHAM] Maiden name or Previous Marriage
    2. jennifer De Angelis
    3. I would add another note of caution to what Barbara said below about mother's former and maiden names on birth certificates. I have a birth cert. dated May 1871 where I know that the mother had been married twice before and where she had a daughter with her third husband. On the birth certificate of that daughter it only shows the mother with her last former name, from her second marriage, and does not mention her surname from her first marriage nor her maiden name. That former name is noted as Formerly and not as Late as Stan's information states it should be. I have the same family in the 1871 census, taken just before the babies birth, where the mother's 4 children from her previous two marriages are shown with their two differing surnames and who are noted as step children to their mother's 3rd. husband. I have also found the births of all of those 4 children and the two former marriages of the mother so know that she definitely had more than one married name, plus her maiden name of course. It would seem to me that someone either didn't ask the mother about any other surnames she had had, or the mother didn't understand the question put to her on the subject of her surnames. Regards Jenny DeAngelis Spain. <<> Just a word of caution - I have the birth certificates for 2 siblings where > the mother`s maiden name is given as `formerly Stephenson` on one and > `formerly Gray` on the second. > > I finally discovered that the mother was born illegitimate, but then > > took > the name of her step-father. But why she varied it on the two certificates > is a mystery - perhaps she had a poor memory and could not remember what > she had said on the first occasion !>>

    07/08/2009 11:10:29
    1. Re: [ENG-DURHAM] Maiden name or Previous Marriage
    2. Brian L. Cartwright
    3. >I would add another note of caution to what Barbara said below about > mother's former and maiden names on birth certificates. I have found a couple extreme cases in research in Pennsylvania. The husband of a family died in 1859. I have the tombstone, and the mother was single in the 1860 census, with several children sent out to relatives. Then she had a daughter in 1862. I checked the daughter's marriage license to see who kept company with her mother, but it listed the man dead three years as the father! Another case in the 1880's, we have an obituary and a tombstone to verify the date of death of the husband. The widow went on to have three more children, and the death certificates of all three list the dead man as their father. Brian Cartwright Johnstown, Pa USA

    07/08/2009 09:23:40
    1. Re: [ENG-DURHAM] ENG-DURHAM Digest, Vol 4, Issue 118
    2. Bruce Moorhouse
    3. Many Thanks Bruce Moorhouse From: eng-durham-request@rootsweb.com Subject: ENG-DURHAM Digest, Vol 4, Issue 118 To: eng-durham@rootsweb.com Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 08:06:35 -0600 --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: NEGenealogy@aol.com To: ENG-DURHAM@rootsweb.com Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 05:29:37 -0400 Subject: Re: [ENG-DURHAM] St. Nicholas Church - Durham City In a message dated 08/07/2009 00:30:11 GMT Daylight Time, brucemoorhouse@sympatico.ca writes: I got a picture of St. Nicholas' church, Durham City, off of the Internet and noted a couple of statues out in front. One of a man on a horse and the other I'm not quite sure. Can anyone tell me who these statues represent? They are not so much connected with the church itself as ornaments to the Market Place, within which the church is located. The "man on a horse" is the 3rd Marquis of Londonderry, Charles William Vane-Stewart (1775-1854); born 1775 May 18; married (1) 1804 Aug 8 Catherine (-1812; daughter of John, 3rd Earl of Darnley; died 1812 Feb 11); 1814: created Baron Stewart; married (2) 1819 Apr 3 Frances Ann Emily Vane-Tempest (1800-1865; daughter of Sir Henry [1771-1813; 2nd Bt]; d 1865 Jan 20); 1821: assumed surname Vane; 1822: succeeded as 3rd Marquis of Londonderry; 1823: created Earl Vane and Viscount Seaham; d 1854 Mar 6. Lord Londonderry spent much of his life trying to build up the large landed and colliery estate in Co Durham, which he inherited through his wife, including the creation and development the town of Seaham Harbour, to which he had most of his coal sent for export, to avoid the excessive dues charged by the River Wear Commissioners. He spent so much on this that certain historians and others in Co Durham have in the past taken him as an example of a man as rich as Croesus. However, he was hardly ever without financial problems and had to do a lot of "juggling with his money" to keep himself solvent. Being an employer of so many men in his mines, and those men having often to work in conditions which were poor, even when compared to those in other mines, he is often painted as the archetypical unfeeling, hard, Victorian employer, whereas the truth is he usually simply could not afford either to improve the conditions in his pits or to pay his workers more. I put the words "man on a horse" into quotes because that was exactly the same description used by an uncle of mine, from Ryton, who joined the Army (DLI) in 1917 (he had been in a reserved occupation until then), and who, with other recruits was sent to Durham, where they formed up in the Market Place, and up Claypath, before being marched across to the Railway Station prior to being taken away to the joys of their basic traiining camp, and then to France. He had time, however, to send his mother a post-card from Durham saying "We formed up beside thon statue of a man on a horse and right up thon street behind". The other "statue" is a figure of Neptune, created a long time ago and placed in the Market Place before eventually being removed to a public park. All that was a long time ago, but a few years ago it was decided to bring it back from the park and replace it in the Market Place. See R W Sturgess "Aristocrat in Business: the Third Marquis of Londonderry as Coalowner and portbuilder" (Durham County Local History Society, 1975, ISBN 0 902958 02 X). See also The Londonderry Papers, a major deposit in Durham County Record Office, covering many topics, including Deeds, Colliery management, the development of Seaham Harbour, Railway management and the political and diplomatic papers of other members of that family, including Viscount Castlereagh. The family also owned Wynyard Hall, in the southern part of Co Durham, and kept it, along with their London house, until the 1960s, after which it became the home of ex-coal miner, property developer and owner of Newcastle United (in the days when that was not an insult!) Sir John Hall. Geoff Nicholson --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: stanmapstone@aol.com To: eng-durham@rootsweb.com Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 05:32:18 -0400 Subject: Re: [ENG-DURHAM] St. Nicholas Church - Durham City The other is a statue of Neptune. http://www.durhamheritagecentre.org.uk/story.html Stan Mapstone -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Moorhouse <brucemoorhouse@sympatico.ca> To: eng-durham@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 0:29 Subject: [ENG-DURHAM] St. Nicholas Church - Durham City Hello: I got a picture of St. Nicholas' church, Durham City, off of the Internet and noted a couple of statues out in front. One of a man on a horse and the other I'm not quite sure. Can anyone tell me who these statues represent? Thank you Bruce Moorhouse brucemoorhouse@sympatico.ca ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-DURHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: stanmapstone@aol.com To: eng-durham@rootsweb.com Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 05:20:08 -0400 Subject: Re: [ENG-DURHAM] St. Nicholas Church - Durham City The equestrian statue is the 3rd Marquess of Londonderry Stan Mapstone -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Moorhouse <brucemoorhouse@sympatico.ca> To: eng-durham@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 0:29 Subject: [ENG-DURHAM] St. Nicholas Church - Durham City Hello: I got a picture of St. Nicholas' church, Durham City, off of the Internet and noted a couple of statues out in front. One of a man on a horse and the other I'm not quite sure. Can anyone tell me who these statues represent? Thank you Bruce Moorhouse brucemoorhouse@sympatico.ca ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-DURHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: peter.fellowes@ntlworld.com To: eng-durham@rootsweb.com Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 10:55:22 +0100 Subject: [ENG-DURHAM] Maiden name or Previous Marriage Greetings to all, I just have query that I would like clarifying if possible please, I seem to come across so many 'Urban Myths' with my research I often lose track, either that or it is the advancing years taking their toll. The year is 1915 if that may be of any help. On a birth certificate under column 5 which is headed: Name, Surname and Maiden Name of Mother I have this: Florence Elizabeth Olsen formerly Fellowes. My question is; with it saying 'FORMERLY Fellowes' do I take this to be the mothers Maiden name or does the term Formerly refer [or may refer] to the mother having been married before and this was her married name of the previous marriage and not her maiden name. Regards to all Peter Fellowes --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: stanmapstone@aol.com To: eng-durham@rootsweb.com Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 07:11:25 -0400 Subject: Re: [ENG-DURHAM] Maiden name or Previous Marriage Formerly is her maiden name. If she had been married before it would say Florence Elizabeth Olsen Late xxxx formerly Fellowes. Stan Mapstone -----Original Message----- From: Peter Fellowes <peter.fellowes@ntlworld.com> To: eng-durham@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 10:55 Subject: [ENG-DURHAM] Maiden name or Previous Marriage Greetings to all, I just have query that I would like clarifying if possible please, I seem to come across so many 'Urban Myths' with my research I often lose track, either that or it is the advancing years taking their toll. The year is 1915 if that may be of any help. On a birth certificate under column 5 which is headed: Name, Surname and Maiden Name of Mother I have this: Florence Elizabeth Olsen formerly Fellowes. My question is; with it saying 'FORMERLY Fellowes' do I take this to be the mothers Maiden name or does the term Formerly refer [or may refer] to the mother having been married before and this was her married name of the previous marriage and not her maiden name. Regards to all Peter Fellowes ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-DURHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: stanmapstone@aol.com To: eng-durham@rootsweb.com Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 07:13:40 -0400 Subject: Re: [ENG-DURHAM] Maiden name or Previous Marriage See http://home.clara.net/dixons/Certificates/births.htm Stan Mapstone -----Original Message----- From: Peter Fellowes <peter.fellowes@ntlworld.com> To: eng-durham@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 10:55 Subject: [ENG-DURHAM] Maiden name or Previous Marriage Greetings to all, I just have query that I would like clarifying if possible please, I seem to come across so many 'Urban Myths' with my research I often lose track, either that or it is the advancing years taking their toll. The year is 1915 if that may be of any help. On a birth certificate under column 5 which is headed: Name, Surname and Maiden Name of Mother I have this: Florence Elizabeth Olsen formerly Fellowes. My question is; with it saying 'FORMERLY Fellowes' do I take this to be the mothers Maiden name or does the term Formerly refer [or may refer] to the mother having been married before and this was her married name of the previous marriage and not her maiden name. Regards to all Peter Fellowes ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-DURHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: b.short@virgin.net To: peter.fellowes@ntlworld.com; eng-durham@rootsweb.com Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 14:46:54 +0100 Subject: Re: [ENG-DURHAM] Maiden name or Previous Marriage Just a word of caution - I have the birth certificates for 2 siblings where the mother`s maiden name is given as `formerly Stephenson` on one and `formerly Gray` on the second. I finally discovered that the mother was born illegitimate, but then took the name of her step-father. But why she varied it on the two certificates is a mystery - perhaps she had a poor memory and could not remember what she had said on the first occasion ! Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Fellowes" <peter.fellowes@ntlworld.com> To: <eng-durham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:55 AM Subject: [ENG-DURHAM] Maiden name or Previous Marriage > Greetings to all, > > I just have query that I would like clarifying if possible please, I seem > to come across so many 'Urban Myths' with my research I often lose track, > either that or it is the advancing years taking their toll. > > > > The year is 1915 if that may be of any help. > > > > On a birth certificate under column 5 which is headed: > > Name, Surname and Maiden Name of Mother I have this: > > > > Florence Elizabeth Olsen formerly Fellowes. > > > > My question is; with it saying 'FORMERLY Fellowes' do I take this to be > the mothers Maiden name or does the term Formerly refer [or may refer] to > the mother having been married before and this was her married name of the > previous marriage and not her maiden name. > > > > Regards to all > > > > Peter Fellowes > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-DURHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/08/2009 09:19:59
    1. Re: [ENG-DURHAM] Maiden name or Previous Marriage
    2. B Short
    3. Just a word of caution - I have the birth certificates for 2 siblings where the mother`s maiden name is given as `formerly Stephenson` on one and `formerly Gray` on the second. I finally discovered that the mother was born illegitimate, but then took the name of her step-father. But why she varied it on the two certificates is a mystery - perhaps she had a poor memory and could not remember what she had said on the first occasion ! Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Fellowes" <peter.fellowes@ntlworld.com> To: <eng-durham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:55 AM Subject: [ENG-DURHAM] Maiden name or Previous Marriage > Greetings to all, > > I just have query that I would like clarifying if possible please, I seem > to come across so many 'Urban Myths' with my research I often lose track, > either that or it is the advancing years taking their toll. > > > > The year is 1915 if that may be of any help. > > > > On a birth certificate under column 5 which is headed: > > Name, Surname and Maiden Name of Mother I have this: > > > > Florence Elizabeth Olsen formerly Fellowes. > > > > My question is; with it saying 'FORMERLY Fellowes' do I take this to be > the mothers Maiden name or does the term Formerly refer [or may refer] to > the mother having been married before and this was her married name of the > previous marriage and not her maiden name. > > > > Regards to all > > > > Peter Fellowes > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-DURHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/08/2009 08:46:54